[tw5] Re: Bookmarks/Favorites

[TonyM]

Scott,

Some incomplete responses below

On Monday, April 29, 2019 at 5:56:50 AM UTC+10, Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ) 
wrote:
>
> Thinking about this has raised a couple of other "How do I ... with 
> TiddlyWiki?" questions.  I'm going to brain-dump them here in case anyone 
> has quick answers or ideas:
>
>1. How do I scrape/capture the  of a page by inputting a URL 
>into a field?  Has anyone built a TW-friendly mechanism for this?
>
> This may be the most difficult Question to answer, yet sometimes when I 
drag a link to  tiddlywiki it drops the link Plus the text 
Perhaps there is a special active bookmark mechanism that can be used in 
the browser, I know some people have cramed automation into special browser 
bookmarks 

>
>1. How do I write a filter to find all tiddlers with a specific tag — 
>and *no other tags*?
>   - That second part is the tricky bit, at least for me.
>   
> One way is to compare the result of the filter tags with the field tags 
{{tags}} or in filters {tags}, or just ask if tags[tagname]  = 
fieldname[value] as tags containing one tiddler only is equal to the name 
of that tag

>
>- 
>1. I know there has been some traction on developing tiddler bundles, 
>but is there a format for a file consisting of multiple .tids in a single 
>file?
>   - That is, could I batch-convert an HTML file exported from a 
>   browser into a file of .TIDs and then import them without having to 
> split 
>   that HTML into multiple files *first*?
>
> Marios bundler plugin is a worth while tool. I recommend using it. However 
exporting a json file from advanced search is multiple tiddlers in a single 
file. I think it's josua developing a sophisticate json editor and related 
tools you should look to for json file handling.

>
>1. How do I pass a variable into the <$list> widget of a tiddler 
>that's transcluded in a tabset?
>   - I'm thiking about giving each "folder" tiddler (i.e., each 
>   tiddler that would correspond to a folder in a traditional bookmarks 
> file) 
>   a set of tabs for displaying its children in different ways.  This 
> would 
>   enable you to cycle through different views of the "contents" of a 
> folder — 
>   sorted by creation date, sorted by tag, or what-have-you.
>   Rather than create a tabset for each one of these tiddlers, I'd 
>   like them to reference a set of static tiddlers containing variables 
> and 
>   then pass that variable to them.  Something like <$var 
>   foo="bar"><> where tab1, tab2, 
>   and tab3 all have filters like <$list 
>   filter="[tag[$(foo)$]]">
>
> Using tabs you specify a template that can contain the above list 
statement and use `<>` rather than `<>` There 
are a number of ways to achieve what you want here.

Regards
Tony
 

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[tw5] Re: Bookmarks/Favorites

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

#2 Example, perhaps

<$list filter="[tag[HelloThere]]" variable="testme">
<$list filter="[titletags[]count[]]" variable="count">
<$reveal type="match" default="1" text=<>>
<>



On Sunday, April 28, 2019 at 12:56:50 PM UTC-7, Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ) 
wrote:
>
> Thinking about this has raised a couple of other "How do I ... with 
> TiddlyWiki?" questions.  I'm going to brain-dump them here in case anyone 
> has quick answers or ideas:
>
>1. How do I scrape/capture the  of a page by inputting a URL 
>into a field?  Has anyone built a TW-friendly mechanism for this?
>2. How do I write a filter to find all tiddlers with a specific tag — 
>and *no other tags*?
>   - That second part is the tricky bit, at least for me.
>   3. I know there has been some traction on developing tiddler 
>bundles, but is there a format for a file consisting of multiple .tids in 
> a 
>single file?
>   - That is, could I batch-convert an HTML file exported from a 
>   browser into a file of .TIDs and then import them without having to 
> split 
>   that HTML into multiple files *first*?
>4. How do I pass a variable into the <$list> widget of a tiddler 
>that's transcluded in a tabset?
>   - I'm thiking about giving each "folder" tiddler (i.e., each 
>   tiddler that would correspond to a folder in a traditional bookmarks 
> file) 
>   a set of tabs for displaying its children in different ways.  This 
> would 
>   enable you to cycle through different views of the "contents" of a 
> folder — 
>   sorted by creation date, sorted by tag, or what-have-you.
>   Rather than create a tabset for each one of these tiddlers, I'd 
>   like them to reference a set of static tiddlers containing variables 
> and 
>   then pass that variable to them.  Something like <$var 
>   foo="bar"><> where tab1, tab2, 
>   and tab3 all have filters like <$list 
>   filter="[tag[$(foo)$]]">
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Bookmarks/Favorites

[Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ)]

Thinking about this has raised a couple of other "How do I ... with 
TiddlyWiki?" questions.  I'm going to brain-dump them here in case anyone 
has quick answers or ideas:

   1. How do I scrape/capture the  of a page by inputting a URL into 
   a field?  Has anyone built a TW-friendly mechanism for this?
   2. How do I write a filter to find all tiddlers with a specific tag — 
   and *no other tags*?
  - That second part is the tricky bit, at least for me.
  3. I know there has been some traction on developing tiddler bundles, 
   but is there a format for a file consisting of multiple .tids in a single 
   file?
  - That is, could I batch-convert an HTML file exported from a browser 
  into a file of .TIDs and then import them without having to split that 
HTML 
  into multiple files *first*?
   4. How do I pass a variable into the <$list> widget of a tiddler that's 
   transcluded in a tabset?
  - I'm thiking about giving each "folder" tiddler (i.e., each tiddler 
  that would correspond to a folder in a traditional bookmarks file) a set 
of 
  tabs for displaying its children in different ways.  This would enable 
you 
  to cycle through different views of the "contents" of a folder — sorted 
by 
  creation date, sorted by tag, or what-have-you.
  Rather than create a tabset for each one of these tiddlers, I'd like 
  them to reference a set of static tiddlers containing variables and then 
  pass that variable to them.  Something like <$var foo="bar"><> where tab1, tab2, and tab3 all have 
  filters like <$list filter="[tag[$(foo)$]]">
   

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[tw5] Re: Bookmarks/Favorites

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

When I started working on Quinoid, I found I needed a way to track 
references


But of course, it doesn't interface with Firefox bookmarks. 

I was thinking that it might be possible to write a processor in node.js 
that would convert a bookmarks.json file exported from FF into tid files 
that could be loaded into TW. Not having used node, I'm making assumptions 
about the ability to open/close files which might not be true. I thought of 
node because javascript already has JSON abilities built-in. And  most 
people using TW already have node installed somewhere. 

-- Mark

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[tw5] Re: Translucent Tiddlers

[Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ)]

Anyone have thoughts on this?  The question I'm stuck on at the moment is:

On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 10:22:26 PM UTC-4, Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ) 
wrote:
>
>
> Is this a bug?  Or is the behavior by design?
>

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[tw5] Re: Bookmarks/Favorites

[Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ)]

On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 1:12:39 PM UTC-4, Joshua Fontany wrote:
>
> Getting my rather LARGE bookmark collection into tiddlywiki is pretty high 
> on my to-do list. Really like what I am hearing so far.
>

I'm in the same boat — and yet *STILL* a bit reluctant to make the leap 
from keeping bookmarks in the browser to keeping them in a TiddlyWiki.  
(The primary allure for me is in being able to sort and display bookmarks 
in all sorts of different ways using tags and custom templates.)

As an escape hatch, I'd love to have a TiddlyWiki mechnism for exporting a 
[browser-of-your-choice]-compliant .HTML file to move bookmarks back to the 
browser if you decide to do so in the future.  It should be possible to 
generate the body of the file with filters and macros then export it with 
some customizations to the export function.  (I think; I'm iffier on this 
second part, as I've never tried that.)

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[tw5] Re: Bookmarks/Favorites

[Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ)]

I concur with Dave.  These are some thrilling possibilities!

Regarding TiddlyClip, check out my comments here:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/1Z7kIaPF2Nk/RRpYwX-XAwAJ

Regarding custom dropzones, here's some more food for thought:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/1Z7kIaPF2Nk/1Unp_D6YAwAJ

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[tw5] Re: Bookmarks/Favorites

[Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ)]

On Sunday, April 21, 2019 at 6:11:54 AM UTC-4, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> I made a bookmarks library too, but it may not be as good as Dave's.
>
> https://ooktech.com/TiddlyWiki/Bookmarks/
>

That's awesome, Jed!  Looking back through my folders, I found an earlier 
version I'd cadged (from here maybe?) a while back.

I like the way you're using a custom ViewTemplate.  Custom ViewTemplate(s?) 
and EditTemplate(s?) are the direction I'm starting to think in.
 

> I briefly looked at what would be necessary to be able to automatically 
> add bookmarks to tiddlywiki and didn't get anywhere. From what I remember 
> browser security restrictions made it annoying.
>

I can believe that.  TonyM's idea of a custom dropzone certainly is 
interesting.  I'd considered what happens when you drag a URL onto an open 
TiddlyWiki, but then I immdiately thought about what happens when you drag 
a *TiddlyWiki* URL onto an open TiddlyWiki and wondered what might happen 
with different file types/extensions.  I have no idea how to go about 
building a custom dropzone, but that seems like a great potential solution.

Especially if you can turn a bookmarks TiddlyWiki into a browser sidebar, 
where you can drag links onto a dropzone and bookmark without leaving the 
main window.  *That* would be super-cool.

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[tw5] Re: Bookmarks/Favorites

[Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ)]

Hi, Birthe —

Glad to see it's not just me who has some interest in this.  It's been a 
wish-list item for me for a while.  I'm hesitant whether ANY solution will 
be worth the pain-staking process of migrating my bookmarks out of my 
browser and into TiddlyWiki, but the idea of having a cross-browser set of 
local bookmarks where I can use multidimensional filtering to see details 
in all sorts of different arrangements is awfully appealing.

On Sunday, April 21, 2019 at 5:42:18 AM UTC-4, Birthe C wrote:
>
> For a long time I have used tiddlyclip to bookmark. I have it ask for a 
> tag when I do so. The good part is, that in my wiki I can make comments to 
> my tiddler (bookmark).
>

I tried out TiddlyClip a while back but never spent much time with it.  I 
know some users are great fans of its abilities.

I'd like to give it another spin, but since I'm clueless about running TW 
under Node.js or BOB, I'm not sure how to get the latest version (@ GitHub 
) to work in the browser.  [No idea 
how to pluginify (?) it for that environment.]

I'd also a little reluctant to leverage another plugin that requires a 
browser plugin for my solution.  That may be one more dependency than I 
want to keep up with.

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Re: [tw5] Newb Question - TiddlyDesktop / Save Dysfunction

[Scott Freeman]

Thank you sir. Timimi seems to work fine.
s

On Sat, Apr 27, 2019 at 10:02 PM TonyM  wrote:

> Timimi needs a firefox add-on and a piece installed in the local os then
> you can forget it. It allows you to open and save from single files wikis
> in any location. As a result a localy synched cloud drive is all you need.
>
> Like any cloud drive you must give it a chance to sync to the cloud before
> shutting down a device and be careful it is not opened more than once at a
> time.
>
> Regards
> Tony
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[tw5] Semi-OT: Spreadsheet as Database - and "main view" suggestions

[Mat]

I agree with this CSS-tricks article 

 that 
using *spreadsheets as databases* is a really cool idea. The article 
provides, as prime example, the service Airtable  which 
seems nice per se but I particularly found their "presentational formats" 
interesting from a TW perspective. My take on it is that they were pretty 
much in a situation that TW is in, i.e "we have the data and can present it 
in any way people want... so what are those ways?" Seems they decided on:

   - Grid (presumably the typical spreadsheet view?)
   - Calendar
   - Gallery
   - Kanban
   - Form

In addition, they have something called *templates*. I don't know how these 
differ from the afore mentioned list tho...but there seem to be hundreds of 
different ones for special applications.
There are also *blocks*, maybe comparable to widgets.

<:-)


P.S For anyone thinking "Wow! Why should I bother with TW when this 
exists?"... you're forgetting things like "100% open source", "total 
customization", "You own your data", "Your notes will still be available in 
X decades when most commercial services... poof!" etc.


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[tw5] Re: Resize Embedded Video

[Jon]

Hi,

I don't know if this helps but this works in my wiki to play a local video 
which can be played full screen






Jon

On Saturday, 27 April 2019 16:41:12 UTC+1, donmor3000 wrote:
>
> Does anyone know how to resize videos imported into the wiki? For example, 
> a video gets out of the bound on a phone, but appears so small in a desktop 
> browser.
> I once used HTML like this:
> 
>
> And it looks pretty fine. But this "video" must be outside the wiki HTML 
> file. Anyone have idea about hacking the embedded ones?
>

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