Re: [tw5] Autoname pasted image?

2019-12-13 Thread Scott Kingery
Hadn't thought of that. Nice idea!

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 9:20 PM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> In terms of easier solutions to implement that don't require hacking the
> core code, I'm thinking a button in the sidebar that could find "image.png"
> and rename it the way you suggest. So, one extra button push, but not too
> bad, maybe?
>
> On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 9:01:17 PM UTC-8, Scott Kingery wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tony,
>> Ctrl v
>>
>> Workflow: take screenshot, navigate to my wiki, Ctrl+v
>>
>> This presents the import page with image.png as the item to be imported.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 7:01 PM TonyM  wrote:
>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> Are you dropping the image file, using ctrl v or another method like
>>> import or using the browse widget?
>>>
>>> tony
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Re: [tw5] Autoname pasted image?

2019-12-13 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
In terms of easier solutions to implement that don't require hacking the 
core code, I'm thinking a button in the sidebar that could find "image.png" 
and rename it the way you suggest. So, one extra button push, but not too 
bad, maybe?

On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 9:01:17 PM UTC-8, Scott Kingery wrote:
>
> Hi Tony,
> Ctrl v
>
> Workflow: take screenshot, navigate to my wiki, Ctrl+v
>
> This presents the import page with image.png as the item to be imported.
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 7:01 PM TonyM > 
> wrote:
>
>> Scott
>>
>> Are you dropping the image file, using ctrl v or another method like 
>> import or using the browse widget?
>>
>> tony
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Re: [tw5] Autoname pasted image?

2019-12-13 Thread Scott Kingery
Hi Tony,
Ctrl v

Workflow: take screenshot, navigate to my wiki, Ctrl+v

This presents the import page with image.png as the item to be imported.


On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 7:01 PM TonyM  wrote:

> Scott
>
> Are you dropping the image file, using ctrl v or another method like
> import or using the browse widget?
>
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[tw5] Autoname pasted image?

2019-12-13 Thread TonyM
Scott

Are you dropping the image file, using ctrl v or another method like import or 
using the browse widget?

tony

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[tw5] Re: Announcement: Archive solution

2019-12-13 Thread David Gifford
Thanks! I was afraid you got shut down again!

On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 1:49:27 PM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>
> Sorry, it was a mistake! I corrected the link
>
> To download have a look at:
> Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Solution
> Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW_Solution/ 
> 
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
>  
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[tw5] Re: Filter/Search problem

2019-12-13 Thread 'Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki
The tilde (~) operator was what I was missing. Thanks.

On Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 10:08:14 PM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Here's my version:
>
> <$list filter="[search{possearch}!search{negsearch}] ~[search{possearch}] 
> -[[possearch]] -$:/HistoryList">
><>
> 
>
> I changed $:/temp/possearch and $:/temp/negsearch for my research. I'm 
> sure you'll see how to change them back. Because the possearch term will 
> always contain the thing to be searched, it needed to be subtracted. Same 
> for the HistoryList. 
>
> This worked in my test, including when negsearch was not present.
>
> HTH
>
> On Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 11:01:16 AM UTC-8, Stephen Kimmel wrote:
>>
>> I want to combine a pair of search operators within a single filter where 
>> one will be positive and the other negative. For example, I might want a 
>> list of all the tiddlers that contain the word "Mark" but exclude all the 
>> tiddlers that contain the word "temple." The solution I suspect would 
>> involve an expression that looks something like 
>>
>> [search[Mark]!search[Temple]] 
>>
>> but, of course, I want to use variables in the expression. So what I have 
>> at the moment has an expression that looks like this:
>>
>> search{$:/temp/possearch}!search{$:/temp/negsearch}
>>
>> The problem I'm having occurs when $:/temp/negsearch is either empty or 
>> doesn't exist. In that set of circumstances, I get no matches. I would like 
>> the search to act as though it were 
>>
>> search{$:/temp/possearch} 
>>
>> or 
>>
>> search{$:/temp/possearch}!search[xyz123]
>>
>> but I can't figure out how to do that.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
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[tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin: dynamic table gets search ui

2019-12-13 Thread TonyM
Mohammad

How to pack data as a plugin is surprisingly simple.

In advanced search filter list the tiddlers you want to include and export them 
as json.

Use the import button to import the json you just created but when the 
$:/import tiddler appears edit it, rename it, and keep only the plugin-type 
field with the value plugin.

Ideally I would like a method to bypass the export to file step for both plugin 
and JSON tiddler creation from a filter.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Custom data styles: targeting fields

2019-12-13 Thread TonyM
Great,

Thanks again, I consider this resolved. I'll just have to fiddle a bit more 
> haha :)
>
>>
>> I  knew the answer was there and grateful for Mario to point out the more 
versatile use of the class field. 

I am still searching for a method to use css specificity to help target 
single tiddlers elements.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Itty.bitty - a cousin to the tiddler?

2019-12-13 Thread TonyM
TT

See my response to Mario.

I am responding to snapshots, not necessarily with itty.bitty. 

Please  share your method to "copying the render level HTML in TW" and why 
should it not be simplified?

Regards
Tony

On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 9:10:25 PM UTC+11, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Can itty.bitty built into tiddlywiki be used to take and preserve a 
>> snapshot of a rendered tiddler?
>>
>
> No. Not in the sense it could locate all styling. 
>
> Since you can already do a "snapshot" by simply copying the render level 
> HTML in TW I'm struggling to know what is the added value.
>
> it would compress the result and allow review in a new tab or iframe. It 
>> could also generate static html pages where we can use the browser save as 
>> to save the result to file or even inside a tiddler using view source.
>>
>
> It has to be situated somewhere! Right?
>
> What I am having trouble seeing is WHAT is the added value.
> Please tell me the advantages and I might rethink!
>
> Best wishes
> TT
>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Itty.bitty - a cousin to the tiddler?

2019-12-13 Thread TonyM
Mario,

I am not sure itty.bitty is a full snapshot answer. but snapshots are needed

I think snapshots with or without multiple versions can be used for the 
following 

   1. Effectively displaying a static tiddler result for complex or long 
   tiddlers so it need not be re rendered on the slightest change. Primarily 
   for performance
  1. eg Index to a large data set
   2. Optional refresh like option 1 but (snapshot remains the same until 
   intentionally refreshed) could be used for publishing something "as at a 
   time or date".


   - I agree CSS can add some complexity however standard css is honoured 
   in many cases, a method for users of more advanced css need to be provided 
   the methods.
   - Also whilst versioning is desirable I think it is still valuable 
   without, and if versioning were available some circumstances would demand 
   the number of versions be limited.

Regards
Tony



On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 8:07:11 PM UTC+11, PMario wrote:
>
> On Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 10:24:35 PM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
> ...
>
>> Can itty.bitty built into tiddlywiki be used to take and preserve a 
>> snapshot of a rendered tiddler?
>
>
> It depends, what you mean with "snapshot". For me a snapshot also contains 
> CSS settings. So if you want to preserve a "pixel perfect" representation 
> of a tiddler you better go with a screenshot. 
>
> The second possibility would be a "static tiddler" eg: 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/static/TiddlyWiki.html 
> If you view it's source: 
> view-source:https://tiddlywiki.com/static/TiddlyWiki.html you'll see, 
> that the CSS is dynamically "linked" in line 13. 
> Since it contains everything it is about 60kByte in size. 
>
> So if I would want to preserve a snapshot of this combination I'd use git, 
> because it is designed to deal with multi-file diffs. 
>  
>
>> it would compress the result and allow review in a new tab or iframe. It 
>> could also generate static html pages where we can use the browser save as 
>> to save the result to file or even inside a tiddler using view source.
>>
>
> I think a snapshot is only interesting, if you can compare it with a 
> previous version of the same thing. So you can see the differences. I'm 
> only interested in the differences, so there is no need to store the whole 
> thing 2 times. IMO it's much more efficient to only store the differences. 
>
> ... TW already contains a diff-match-patch tool, that allows us to 
> annotate differences between 2 tiddlers. I'd use this tool 
> , or the underling libs, which is 
> already part of the core. 
>
> just some thoughts
> mario
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin: dynamic table gets search ui

2019-12-13 Thread A Gloom
Many thanks for the compliments-- they mean a lot!  Sorry I wasn't more 
help but isolating and preparing the code will take more time I have at the 
moment-- its holiday-- 19 years and I decided to rededicate Rags & Shadows 
to my beloved and less of a memorial piece-- need to scour folklore for a 
new edition name-- something along the lines of renewal...

 

>  I will add an install instruction on Tiddlyspot site for who likes to 
> have only  dynamic tables!
>>
>>  I also keep it as a dedicated wiki for searchable dynamic table! 
>>
>
What you can do with the dynamic tables and search function--

Have the search function its own tiddler/"module" that its transclusion is 
hidden in a reveal in the dynamic tables tiddler & triggered by a fireld 
value/setting set by the separate search plugin installation.

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Re: [tw5] Best of 2019 and wish-list of 2020

2019-12-13 Thread ILYA
I'll put things I would be interested to see. Some of them I am planing to 
tackle myself.

# 2019
- Shiraz
- Github syncadaptor
- Keyboard shortcuts
- kookma/todolist
- liveedit
- Bob improvements

# 2020
- static web sites
- markdown mode which supports widgets and macro
- todolist+liveedit like UI to create nested lists
   * main item
  * sub item 1
  * sub item 2
- generate forms from spec (json spec maybe)
- extend github syncadapter to work in following modes:
   - individual tiddlers via github API
   - read-only mode which lazy loads the tiddlers from given repository and 
branch/tag/commit
- update plugin.info format to require license field
- magicTabs plugin modernization
- move i18 macro by sycom into core
- an approach to create tiddlers from template
  - template would define
- fields - for every field there would be filter to populate the value
- text or form specification
- button to transclude to create tiddlers of this type
- a toggle to view tiddler as markdown ( for copy pasting to other systems )
- a drop area which calls a JS macro to parse url and create tiddler and set 
fields. I need:
  - url of the resource
  - source (from which site I dropped the link) - this might be not possible 
without extension
  - description
  - automatically grab a snapshot of a page
- tiddly wiki based solution for issues tracking (github issues alternative)
- I would welcome an ability to keep history of changes for each tiddler in UI 
if storage backend support it
- pijul based (or git based) storage server in compiled language (no nodejs 
please)

Best regards,
iilyak

On 12 December 2019 01:43:25 GMT-08:00, Mohammad  
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>
> The 2019 is gradually goes to end and a new year 2020 will start soon!
>I would like to ask you to share the best of 2019 and your wishlist of 
>2020.
>
>Tiddlywiki gets more powerful and resource rich and now we have many
>tools
>   
>  
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[tw5] Re: How to make the TW edit icon green using CSS?

2019-12-13 Thread David Gifford


html body.tc-body .tc-image-edit-button {stroke: white;fill:#6f6;}

Or choose another color from http://www.ficml.org/jemimap/style/color/wheel.html



On Thursday, April 25, 2019 at 9:16:58 AM UTC-5, Chuck R. wrote:
>
> The icon I'm trying to make green is the one with the pencil.I cou ld get 
> a green border below it but could not make the actual symbol green.
>
> [image: tw-edit-icon.png]
>
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[tw5] Re: How to make the TW edit icon green using CSS?

2019-12-13 Thread Thomas Elmiger
Hi folks, 

Just a reminder for future generations that it is not necessary to use CSS 
for this: 
The colour of some icons including the tiddler edit icon can be tweaked in 
the palette settings in 

$:/ControlPanel > tab *Appearance* > tab *Palette* > button *show editor 
*(below 
palettes) > search for 

*Toolbar 'edit' button foreground*

... choose color. 

Cheers, 
Thomas

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[tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin: dynamic table gets search ui

2019-12-13 Thread Mohammad
Hello TT,
 I will add an install instruction on Tiddlyspot site for who likes to have 
only  dynamic tables!
 I also keep it as a dedicated wiki for searchable dynamic table! 

By the way, my main focus is on Shiraz and will maintain it! So, tiddlyspot 
only may get bug fixes!

--Mohammad

On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 12:11:04 PM UTC+3:30, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao Mohammad
>
> Very good! I have one suggestion ...
>
>- *Put this in a wiki of its own. *
>
> Even though it is largely an inspired sub-set of TiddlyTables I think it 
> would still be better in a dedicated wiki.
>
> Best wishes
> TT 
>
> Mohammad wrote ...
>  
>
>>
>> I am afraid it deviates the minimalist design principle and gets complex 
>> to use!
>>
>> *What do you think?*
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin: dynamic table gets search ui

2019-12-13 Thread Mohammad
Hi A Gloom,
 Many thanks for all these great pieces of work you made!
 I am experimenting to see what can I learn and use as improvement in 
Shiraz!

Best
Mohammad

On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 12:36:23 PM UTC+3:30, A Gloom wrote:
>
> Where is that? Is it the same you use in your documentation resource 
>> project?
>
>
> It was too volatile for the Ref Collective, so I left it out along with 
> the Tiddler Explorer and Whatis! the Wiki Assistant
>
> my way to do the table search is much simpler-- it changes the table 
> filter so it re-renders the table just with content meeting the search and 
> excluding all other previous table rows (previous table content would be 
> the initial total pool of tiddlers being searched)
>
> I showed some parts of it in these topics (its actually constructed from 
> several tiddlers like the ref wikis sidebar search in  the Ref Collective 
> and the Tiddler Explorer)-- 
>
> the doubling up of column header sorting values (2 fields display and 
> independent ascending/decending sort of each) (Jed Carty's original table 
> coding iirc, I just modified it)
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/Y7O0V4Xy_CM/MIwVgiPuAwAJ
>
> the search bar with regexp (applied to search data tiddlers, this made it 
> into one of the Ref Collective sidebar searches)
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/_Nukt4YgUPc/8npz6WWOAgAJ
>
> experimenting with using tiddlers as modules to build complex utilitites 
> as I'll show with the Game UI (User interface) 
>
> the chart hers shows some of the modular construction
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/gsKttLKxG_Y/9--O_YWzAgAJ
>
> screenshot of Tiddler Explorer-- the selections and entry fields are 
> modules, you'll recognize the regezp search bar/radio buttons in there
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/lNoMFwnZ3iw/wPdLN-eIAQAJ
>

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[tw5] Re: *** It is the time to be Generous ***

2019-12-13 Thread Thomas Elmiger
Hi all, 

My activity in the community is not as high as it used to be, I know. 
Nevertheless I thought I might share my thougts and experience concerning 
rewards. 

In general, the best reward for me is feedback from users. First of all 
voluntary testers, but also just normal users who let me know that my stuff 
actually is in use and makes other people happy too. 

Some of my plugins come with a note indicating how users could send money 
,
 
others come without it. Until now I received 20 AUD in total from a total 
of 1 user(s) during the first year or so. And I tried to buy a meal for two 
colleagues who made nice stuff or helped me with code some time ago in one 
or another way. So on the bottom line, PayPal earned more than me ;–)

But as said before: Just let me know that you use my stuff, that means a 
lot to me. I do not track anything on my tid.li webstite so feedback from 
the community is all I have.

Cheers and all the best,
Thomas

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[tw5] TW-Scripts Update (Dec 2019)

2019-12-13 Thread Mohammad
A new update of TW-Scripts is out there.

Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/
GitHub Page: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Scripts


mainly bug fix and few new solutions added.

--Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Announcement: Archive solution

2019-12-13 Thread Mohammad
Hi David,

Sorry, it was a mistake! I corrected the link

To download have a look at:
Code: https://github.com/kookma/TW-Solution
Demo: https://kookma.github.io/TW_Solution/ 


Cheers
Mohammad


On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 10:57:43 PM UTC+3:30, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad, I got a 404 on the demo and code links in this post.
>
> On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 10:51:13 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Solution resource just got a new update!
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>> On Saturday, October 6, 2018 at 2:36:18 PM UTC+3:30, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> *Announcement a new plugin*
>>>
>>> *Solution Resource *
>>> *Release 1.0.7 (Dec 13th, 2019)*
>>>
>>> Rev 1.0.7
>>>
>>>
>>>- *Dec 13th, 2019*
>>>- Search in field has got grouped option, see Advanced Search: In 
>>>Fields
>>>
>>>
>>> To download have a look at:
>>> Code: https://kookma.github.io/Solution/
>>> Demo: https://kookma.github.io/Solution/
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Easily open excised (included) tiddler?

2019-12-13 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
This is a little hacky, and I'm sure someone could come up with something 
more attractive, but I use the text below in a tiddler called "TE" (for 
template-edit).

After excision, I add ||TE}} . That is, the excision might look like 
{{mytiddler||TE}}. This puts a button next to the text, that lets me open 
it up for editing.

Using this approach, you can even do excisions inside of excised tiddlers, 
and so on.

I imagine it wouldn't be too hard to hack the excise button so that it 
automatically adds the ||TE to the transclusion text, if it's of interest.

Good luck!


<$reveal state=<> type="nomatch" text="edit"><$transclude 
mode="block"/> <$button class="mybuttons" set=<> 
setTo="edit">Edit

<$reveal state=<> type="match" text="edit"><$transclude 
tiddler="$:/core/ui/EditTemplate" /> <$button class="mybuttons" set=<
> setTo="show">Show 



On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 5:30:12 AM UTC-8, DemoniWaari wrote:
>
> Are there any good methods of quickly opening an excised tiddler from 
> inclusion? Oftentimes when I excise a tiddler, I would like to edit it 
> afterwards but the only way to do this is to go to search and type in the 
> title of the excised tiddler and open it from there. I'd like to do 
> something like, highlight the text inside {{}} and it would directly open 
> the tiddler with that title, with a hotkey or something for example. 
>
> Thanks.
>

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[tw5] Re: Announcement: Archive solution

2019-12-13 Thread David Gifford
Hi Mohammad, I got a 404 on the demo and code links in this post.

On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 10:51:13 AM UTC-6, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Solution resource just got a new update!
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Saturday, October 6, 2018 at 2:36:18 PM UTC+3:30, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> *Announcement a new plugin*
>>
>> *Solution Resource *
>> *Release 1.0.7 (Dec 13th, 2019)*
>>
>> Rev 1.0.7
>>
>>
>>- *Dec 13th, 2019*
>>- Search in field has got grouped option, see Advanced Search: In 
>>Fields
>>
>>
>> To download have a look at:
>> Code: https://kookma.github.io/Solution/
>> Demo: https://kookma.github.io/Solution/
>>
>>

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[tw5] Autoname pasted image?

2019-12-13 Thread Scott Kingery
I've started experimenting with pasting screenshots into my tiddlywiki. 
This is an interesting feature with a drawback for me. When I paste, it 
loads my import screen with a tiddler titled image.png. If I am in a hurry 
and just click import then I've potentially overwritten another image.png.

Is there a way to instead have tiddlywiki automagically name my import as 
something like image-2019-12-13-09:30:12? In other words, image with a 
date-time stamp at then end. That would speed up entry, reduce overwriting 
and have the images be chronological to allow me to later fix a proper 
title.

Thanks,
Scott

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[tw5] Re: Announcement: Archive solution

2019-12-13 Thread Mohammad
Solution resource just got a new update!

--Mohammad

On Saturday, October 6, 2018 at 2:36:18 PM UTC+3:30, Mohammad wrote:
>
> *Announcement a new plugin*
>
> *Solution Resource *
> *Release 1.0.7 (Dec 13th, 2019)*
>
> Rev 1.0.7
>
>
>- *Dec 13th, 2019*
>- Search in field has got grouped option, see Advanced Search: In 
>Fields
>
>
> To download have a look at:
> Code: https://kookma.github.io/Solution/
> Demo: https://kookma.github.io/Solution/
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Itty.bitty - a cousin to the tiddler?

2019-12-13 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Mat wrote:
>
> Come ON! Is this a cousin to the tiddler?!
>

Cousins?

Beware of inbreeding :-) 
 

> I'm in love at first glance but I'm not sure what to do with it!
>

Let us not be forced to analyse that too closely :-)

TT 

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Re: [tw5] Re: to tag or not to tag

2019-12-13 Thread K500 L501
tocP from Giffmex - https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/tocP/

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 3:12 PM Captain Packers  wrote:

> What is the TOCP solution?
>
> On Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 3:26:23 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Captain
>>
>> Re tableofcontents tag
>>
>> That is one way and the new here button facilitates tagging subtiddlers
>> with the current. Use the TOCP solution if you want to move this into a
>> field and save tags.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
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[tw5] Re: to tag or not to tag

2019-12-13 Thread Captain Packers
What is the TOCP solution?

On Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 3:26:23 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>
> Captain
>
> Re tableofcontents tag
>
> That is one way and the new here button facilitates tagging subtiddlers 
> with the current. Use the TOCP solution if you want to move this into a 
> field and save tags.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
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[tw5] Re: Custom data styles: targeting fields

2019-12-13 Thread PMario
On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 2:41:28 PM UTC+1, Hubert wrote:
...

>
> Thanks again, I consider this resolved. I'll just have to fiddle a bit 
> more haha :)
>

Cool!

-m

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[tw5] Re: Custom data styles: targeting fields

2019-12-13 Thread Hubert

>
> Would YOU be in it? :-)
>
> Your voice is nice. You might look as good? 
>

Thanks TT but I'll give it a pass ;)

-Hubert

On Friday, 13 December 2019 13:39:56 UTC, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> PMario wrote:
>>
>> If the description doesn't work for you, I can record a short video. Just 
>> let my know!
>>
>
> Would YOU be in it? :-)
>
> Your voice is nice. You might look as good?  
>

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[tw5] Re: Custom data styles: targeting fields

2019-12-13 Thread Hubert
Thank you Mario, you've been very helpful. I've never used performance 
instrumentation before but I'll have it ago. Thanks for the instructions.

I'm aware of the improvements in 5.1.20. Also, it's not like the 
performance I have is poor, not at all. It's just that I want to optimise 
it as well as I can so as to be aware that any remaining bottlenecks are 
not design/syntax/filter related but hardware related. I've read that 
several posters on this forum were experiencing delays if using tags in 
their filters which were removed once tags were removed from the filters. 
This is primarily what triggered my interest in removing tags altogether.

I will do these tests first.

Also, following your suggestion to use multiple values in the class field 
(i.e. treating it as a list field) I was able to match both classes 
(values) with my CSS, which is promising. I'll give it a go and see what 
happens.

Thanks again, I consider this resolved. I'll just have to fiddle a bit more 
haha :)

-Hubert


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>
> Hi,
>
> If your filters are not there, you need to open the tiddlers that contain 
> them.
> And run the $tw.perf.log(); again
>
> -m
>

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[tw5] Re: Custom data styles: targeting fields

2019-12-13 Thread TiddlyTweeter
PMario wrote:
>
> If the description doesn't work for you, I can record a short video. Just 
> let my know!
>

Would YOU be in it? :-)

Your voice is nice. You might look as good?  

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[tw5] Re: Custom data styles: targeting fields

2019-12-13 Thread PMario
Hi,

If your filters are not there, you need to open the tiddlers that contain 
them.
And run the $tw.perf.log(); again

-m

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[tw5] Easily open excised (included) tiddler?

2019-12-13 Thread DemoniWaari
Are there any good methods of quickly opening an excised tiddler from 
inclusion? Oftentimes when I excise a tiddler, I would like to edit it 
afterwards but the only way to do this is to go to search and type in the 
title of the excised tiddler and open it from there. I'd like to do 
something like, highlight the text inside {{}} and it would directly open 
the tiddler with that title, with a hotkey or something for example. 

Thanks.

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[tw5] Re: Custom data styles: targeting fields

2019-12-13 Thread PMario
Hi, 

If the description doesn't work for you, I can record a short video. Just 
let my know!

-m

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[tw5] Re: Custom data styles: targeting fields

2019-12-13 Thread PMario

On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 11:59:06 AM UTC+1, Hubert wrote:
..

> Everything works perfectly and I've had all of this working well for 
> months. I'm very happy with this design. BUT, as I've said above, I want to 
> get rid of tags altogether (for performance reasons). 
>

hmmm, 

That shouldn't happen anymore. See: 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#Release%205.1.20  Performance Improvements 1st 
paragraph. 

 - Added  pluggable 
> index modules to accelerate the field Operator 
>  and the tag Operator 
>  (in tests on a wiki with 60K 
> tiddlers, startup time is reduced by 25% with these optimisations, and 
> refresh time is reduced by a factor of three.)
>

 - Enable $:/ControlPanel : Settings : Performance Instrumentation 
 - Save and Reload your TW
 - F12 : Console tab shows: performance: Execute $tw.perf.log(); to see 
filter execution timings
 - enter the text: $tw.perf.log();
 - hit enter button

TW should show a table with all filters and there execution time now. So 
you can see, if there are are really slow filters. 

Jeremy uses TWs with 60k Tiddlers

-mario

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[tw5] Re: Custom data styles: targeting fields

2019-12-13 Thread PMario
On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 2:05:23 PM UTC+1, Hubert wrote:

But the class field (being a field) can only have one value. Since I need 
> two values, what I'm missing is another (custom) field that will match the 
> power of class. Or, ideally, the ability to add more custom fields at 
> system level that will match the functionality of a class field.
>

you can have class like: 

class: aaa bbb ccc

The div will look like this: 


  ^^^
 
I'm not sure if that helps. 

-m

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[tw5] Re: The-book weekly report

2019-12-13 Thread TiddlyTweeter

>
> I don't understand. 
>

Sorry, I meant doing natively in TiddlyWiki what  https://www.lyx.org/ does.

It is a text format really, not a program per se. 

I was  thinking IF in TiddlyWiki we could use "parsers" to do that format?

Best wishes
TT

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[tw5] Re: Custom data styles: targeting fields

2019-12-13 Thread Hubert
Hi Mario,

Exactly. What you've described is my current implementation.

But the class field (being a field) can only have one value. Since I need 
two values, what I'm missing is another (custom) field that will match the 
power of class. Or, ideally, the ability to add more custom fields at 
system level that will match the functionality of a class field.

I know I could probably use a custom filter or some regex to match a list 
of classes within the class field but it's probably overkill.

More details in my convoluted post above :)

Many thanks,
Hubert

On Friday, 13 December 2019 12:34:20 UTC, PMario wrote:
>
> On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 11:59:06 AM UTC+1, Hubert wrote:
>
> What I forgot to say is that the functionality I'm looking for is one that 
>> would match the power of the "class" field, in that it would be able to 
>> style the* entire tiddler*, not just its body.
>>
>
> If you add a class field eg: class: test you can do it:
>  
>
>> Like using the class field, we could, say, remove a tiddler's title by 
>> using .tc-titlebar h2 { display: none; } etc.
>>
>
> like this:  .test .tc-titlebar h2 {display: none}
>
> class is applied at the same level as the data-tags elements
>
> -m
>

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[tw5] Re: The-book weekly report

2019-12-13 Thread Luis Gonzalez


>
> I wonder what we'd need to do to replicate "Lyx" in a set of TW parsers?
>
>
>
I don't understand. You can download Lyx from https://www.lyx.org/. Is a 
Windows / Linux / Mac / ... application you have to install to use it. Lyx 
needs a installed latex in the computer like Miktex.

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[tw5] Re: Custom data styles: targeting fields

2019-12-13 Thread PMario
On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 11:59:06 AM UTC+1, Hubert wrote:

What I forgot to say is that the functionality I'm looking for is one that 
> would match the power of the "class" field, in that it would be able to 
> style the* entire tiddler*, not just its body.
>

If you add a class field eg: class: test you can do it:
 

> Like using the class field, we could, say, remove a tiddler's title by 
> using .tc-titlebar h2 { display: none; } etc.
>

like this:  .test .tc-titlebar h2 {display: none}

class is applied at the same level as the data-tags elements

-m

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[tw5] Re: search operator and variables

2019-12-13 Thread TiddlyTweeter
I'm probably a woman :-)

TT

On Friday, 13 December 2019 13:19:35 UTC+1, HansWobbe wrote:
>
> Gentlemen:
>
> This is a really useful piece of work and your comments are quite 
> enlightening.
>
> Thank you for sharing this!
>
> Best regards,
> Hans
>
>

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[tw5] Re: search operator and variables

2019-12-13 Thread HansWobbe
Gentlemen:

This is a really useful piece of work and your comments are quite 
enlightening.

Thank you for sharing this!

Best regards,
Hans

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[tw5] Re: Custom data styles: targeting fields

2019-12-13 Thread Hubert
Tony & Mario, thank you very much for taking the time to help.

I've just realised that I've omitted one important piece of info in my 
original post which would probably save you time trying to assist me. I'm 
sorry for that. What I forgot to say is that the functionality I'm looking 
for is one that would match the power of the "class" field, in that it 
would be able to style the* entire tiddler*, not just its body. Like using 
the class field, we could, say, remove a tiddler's title by using 
.tc-titlebar h2 { display: none; } etc.

Just an example. My actionable tiddlers (tasks and such) are tagged "item". 
I use the below custom view template (tagged $:/tags/ViewTemplate) to 
display them. This view template is itself conditional: the contents of a 
tiddler tagged "item" will be displayed if the tiddler is not "locked" 
(having a class "locked" will *conditionally *remove tiddler body and 
buttons such as "More", "Edit this tiddler" etc. from view). The locked 
tiddler view template is itself also conditional (based on other logic that 
enables me to mass lock locked tiddlers using a toggle that modifies a 
global variable, something not really relevant to this topic), which means 
that even if an "item" tiddler also has the class "locked" it will not 
necessarily be hidden from view as locked, because this depends on the 
current status of the global locking mechanism (toggle position).

My view template for tiddlers tagged "item", at its most basic level, looks 
like this:

<$list filter="[is[current]tag[item]]">
<$list filter="[is[current]class[locked]]">

{{_template_tiddler-locked}}


<$list filter="[is[current]!class[locked]]">

-- all the styling/macros for the not locked tiddler tagged "item" go here




So, list filters determine what view template is applied to this tiddler. 
In short, it's a view template transcluded in another view template.

In addition to that, I target all tiddlers tagged "item" through CSS 
defined in my own $:/tags/Stylesheet tiddler to remove their titles like 
here:

[data-tags*="item"] .tc-titlebar h2 { display: none; }) 

...because I've redesigned the way everything, titles included, look like 
in "items" by using the above view template.

Everything works perfectly and I've had all of this working well for 
months. I'm very happy with this design. BUT, as I've said above, I want to 
get rid of tags altogether (for performance reasons). So, it would seem 
trivial to simply replace the tag "item" and replace it with a field, say a 
field called "data_type" with the value "item". Once this is done, this 
would be my new view template:

<$list filter="[is[current]has[data_type]data_type[item]]">
<$list filter="[is[current]class[locked]]">

{{_template_tiddler-locked}}


<$list filter="[is[current]!class[locked]]">

-- all the styling/macros for the not locked tiddler go here




But now I'm losing all the styling (specifically, the removal of tiddler 
buttons) because this: [data-tags*="item"] no longer works, understandably, 
because the tiddler is no longer tagged, I've replaced the tag with a field!

*This is the very root of what I'm trying to accomplish -- to give this 
"data_type" field the same powers as the "class" field was given, so as to 
be able to manipulate styling of the entire tiddler, not just its body.*

This will be only relevant in the edge cases where a tiddler is "double 
styled", in addition to this styling being conditional. This is why I had 
to rely on [data-tags*="item"] and on the "class" field as both of these* 
target the whole tiddler* (including system buttons, the title etc.) 
Styling from within a view template only targets tiddler body and this is 
not enough for my use case.

I need to apologise for the sprawl, I'm aware it may all seem convoluted. 
English is not my first language and I occasionally struggle to concisely 
express what I'm trying to do. I'm also aware that there might be a quick 
fix to this problem, though I haven't found it yet. I think it can be 
accomplished by creating some clever CSS cascading or by modifying the core 
view template (something I'm reluctant to do).

Thank you again for your time and all the help so far, it's very much 
appreciated. It's amazing that TW has such a thriving community.

Best regards,
Hubert

On Friday, 13 December 2019 05:30:35 UTC, TonyM wrote:
>
> Post Script
>
> Using selectors and Understanding specificity  
> is quite involved. One 
> thing I know is you can wrap something in a div with a specific ID and 
> include that ID in your CSS so it only applies to something inside that ID.
>
> In a recent post I shared a solution for creating anchors inside a 
> Tiddler, copy below. The trick was we used the qualify macro to make the ID 
> unique to that tiddler, and in that case within the tiddler, you could do 
> something similar. But I now have an idea how to make this automatic.
>
> Eg in TOC
>
> > >Link to My Heading
>
> 

[tw5] Re: The-book weekly report

2019-12-13 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Luis

I wonder what we'd need to do to replicate "Lyx" in a set of TW parsers?

Just a thought
TT

Luis Gonzalez wrote:
>
> I edit the text wit Lyx, a free easy open source Latex editor. 
>

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[tw5] Re: Searches

2019-12-13 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mark S.

Always interesting to read you at the edge where you get something to work!

Again, this thread shows there is a broader comprehension issue compounded 
by some unclarity whether its docs or brokenness at base.

Side thoughts
TT

Mark S. wrote:
>
> I'm thinking "literal" might be broken, or maybe we're interpreting it too 
>  wait for it ... literally.
>
> A Gloom wrote:
>>
>> Nice work Mark-- will be studying it...
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Itty.bitty - a cousin to the tiddler?

2019-12-13 Thread TiddlyTweeter
TonyM wrote:
>
> Can itty.bitty built into tiddlywiki be used to take and preserve a 
> snapshot of a rendered tiddler?
>

No. Not in the sense it could locate all styling. 

Since you can already do a "snapshot" by simply copying the render level 
HTML in TW I'm struggling to know what is the added value.

it would compress the result and allow review in a new tab or iframe. It 
> could also generate static html pages where we can use the browser save as 
> to save the result to file or even inside a tiddler using view source.
>

It has to be situated somewhere! Right?

What I am having trouble seeing is WHAT is the added value.
Please tell me the advantages and I might rethink!

Best wishes
TT

>

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[tw5] Re: adding second action along with primary button action

2019-12-13 Thread TonyM
Great to hear dave

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki on a LAN share/container (Was self-host tiddlywiki)?

2019-12-13 Thread PMario
Hi, 

There has been a GG thread 

 
about WebDav and Seafile. 
Also see: https://www.seafile.com/en/home/ Community Edition, which you can 
host on your own server. 

WebDav is disabled by default. So you'd need to enable it. But as reported 
in 2018 it did work. ...So this may be worth a test. 

-mario

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki on a LAN share/container (Was self-host tiddlywiki)?

2019-12-13 Thread PMario
On Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 10:57:39 PM UTC+1, Nick wrote:
>
> I have been investigating these options but it's not clear to me which one 
> would be suited best for me.
> Right now I was looking at webdav and the possibility to use my existing 
> Nextcloud for this.
>

The last time I did have a closer look at nextcloud and WebDav it didn't 
work in a way we need it. ... NC WebDav is only used to mount network 
drives to remote computers. You can't "host" and save TWs with it. 
 

> Anyone who can elaborate why webdav and not smb or nfs
>

SMB and NFS require file system access, which is a big NO-GO in all modern 
browsers. We need to use HTTP(S) PUT command to save stuff. 

-mario


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[tw5] Re: Searches

2019-12-13 Thread PMario
Hi PWL, 

Not a 100% fit, but my field-search plugin may be of interest. See the GG 
thread. It also contains a video link.

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Re: Searches

2019-12-13 Thread PMario
uups: missed the link ;) see: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlywiki/intro$20field$20search%7Csort:date/tiddlywiki/Sxpx6Soj_7I/Wgjrs3J8AAAJ

On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 10:13:59 AM UTC+1, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi PWL, 
>
> Not a 100% fit, but my field-search plugin may be of interest. See the GG 
> thread. It also contains a video link.
>
> have fun!
> mario
>

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[tw5] Re: Itty.bitty - a cousin to the tiddler?

2019-12-13 Thread PMario
On Thursday, December 12, 2019 at 10:24:35 PM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
...

> Can itty.bitty built into tiddlywiki be used to take and preserve a 
> snapshot of a rendered tiddler?


It depends, what you mean with "snapshot". For me a snapshot also contains 
CSS settings. So if you want to preserve a "pixel perfect" representation 
of a tiddler you better go with a screenshot. 

The second possibility would be a "static tiddler" eg: 
https://tiddlywiki.com/static/TiddlyWiki.html 
If you view it's source: 
view-source:https://tiddlywiki.com/static/TiddlyWiki.html you'll see, that 
the CSS is dynamically "linked" in line 13. 
Since it contains everything it is about 60kByte in size. 

So if I would want to preserve a snapshot of this combination I'd use git, 
because it is designed to deal with multi-file diffs. 
 

> it would compress the result and allow review in a new tab or iframe. It 
> could also generate static html pages where we can use the browser save as 
> to save the result to file or even inside a tiddler using view source.
>

I think a snapshot is only interesting, if you can compare it with a 
previous version of the same thing. So you can see the differences. I'm 
only interested in the differences, so there is no need to store the whole 
thing 2 times. IMO it's much more efficient to only store the differences. 

... TW already contains a diff-match-patch tool, that allows us to annotate 
differences between 2 tiddlers. I'd use this tool 
, or the underling libs, which is 
already part of the core. 

just some thoughts
mario

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[tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin: dynamic table gets search ui

2019-12-13 Thread A Gloom

>
> Where is that? Is it the same you use in your documentation resource 
> project?


It was too volatile for the Ref Collective, so I left it out along with the 
Tiddler Explorer and Whatis! the Wiki Assistant

my way to do the table search is much simpler-- it changes the table filter 
so it re-renders the table just with content meeting the search and 
excluding all other previous table rows (previous table content would be 
the initial total pool of tiddlers being searched)

I showed some parts of it in these topics (its actually constructed from 
several tiddlers like the ref wikis sidebar search in  the Ref Collective 
and the Tiddler Explorer)-- 

the doubling up of column header sorting values (2 fields display and 
independent ascending/decending sort of each) (Jed Carty's original table 
coding iirc, I just modified it)

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/Y7O0V4Xy_CM/MIwVgiPuAwAJ

the search bar with regexp (applied to search data tiddlers, this made it 
into one of the Ref Collective sidebar searches)

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/_Nukt4YgUPc/8npz6WWOAgAJ

experimenting with using tiddlers as modules to build complex utilitites as 
I'll show with the Game UI (User interface) 

the chart hers shows some of the modular construction

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/gsKttLKxG_Y/9--O_YWzAgAJ

screenshot of Tiddler Explorer-- the selections and entry fields are 
modules, you'll recognize the regezp search bar/radio buttons in there

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/lNoMFwnZ3iw/wPdLN-eIAQAJ

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[tw5] Re: The-book weekly report

2019-12-13 Thread Luis Gonzalez
I edit the text wit Lyx, a free easy open source Latex editor. It produces 
high quality pdfs.

If you want to edit the The_Book.lyx 
 
file tell me and I send some information.

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[tw5] Re: Shiraz plugin: dynamic table gets search ui

2019-12-13 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Ciao Mohammad

Very good! I have one suggestion ...

   - *Put this in a wiki of its own. *

Even though it is largely an inspired sub-set of TiddlyTables I think it 
would still be better in a dedicated wiki.

Best wishes
TT 

Mohammad wrote ...
 

>
> I am afraid it deviates the minimalist design principle and gets complex 
> to use!
>
> *What do you think?*
>

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