[tw5] Re: Tiddlyspot down ... gone?

[kuzi]

Hi all, just in case you're not aware, the Internet Archive may have a copy 
of some sites stored within the last month or two. Not the most recent but 
better than nothing I would imagine. It's worth a try: 
https://web.archive.org/web/20201013022309/http://tiddlyspot.com/ 

On Sunday, 25 October 2020 at 21:54:24 UTC-5 joshua@gmail.com wrote:

> Wow, that sucks. Cool to see the community try to mitigate the damage...
>
> Best of luck,
> Joshua F 
>
> On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 7:12:45 PM UTC-7 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> Folks Simon et all
>>
>> Although I do not know how to set up my own tiddlyspot, I wanted to 
>> contact Simon to offer my own hosting (cpanel/apache) but even 
>> http://tiddlyspot.blogspot.com/ 
>> 
>>   
>> is not live. 
>>
>> My host although in Australia, international cloud flare CDN should make 
>> this practical from my host.
>>
>> Any Suggestions?
>>
>> I have a few personally, somewhat neglected tiddlyspots, and can live 
>> without them, but over the years a lot of great solutions were documented 
>> on tiddlyspot sites, I would hate to see them lost.
>>
>> The key questions are?
>>
>>- Is there a fairly recent backup?
>>- What is its total size?
>>- What technologies does it need?
>>- Would it be easy to bring up elsewhere?
>>- Can we find a way to mirror it to avoid loss.
>>
>> Feel free to send a private message with contact info for Simon if you 
>> have it.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tones
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, 24 October 2020 06:44:47 UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> The message displayed at tiddlyspot doesn't inspire great confidence. 
>>> They seem to be offering to sell the site.
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Unicode discovery additional alphabets and tiddlywiki, and a keyboard Question

[Charlie Veniot]

G'day Tones,

I've never used this, but I'm thinking it is the way to go:  Microsoft 
Keyboard Layout Creator.

Check out this video and see if that would work:  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcxltyn0nbE

Then you'd just be switching between keyboards when you need the unicode 
characters?

On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 11:50:48 PM UTC-3, TW Tones wrote:
>
> By the way,
>
> I just thought I would mention some of our gurus may know how to build the 
> ability to type in the alternate alpha-numeric characters into tiddlywiki, 
> an example may be a custom language that maps to these alternates.
>
> What if this could go into the *pre-release *or a plugin for it were 
> available?
>
>  additional alphanumeric characters here 
> https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1D400.pdf
>
> Regards
> Tones
>
> On Monday, 26 October 2020 12:56:26 UTC+11, TW Tones wrote:
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I have discovered that the Unicode standard has additional alphanumeric 
>> characters here https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1D400.pdf
>>
>> The are commonly used to represent variable and other mathematical or 
>> algebraic symbols. More often than not these will be used within a formula. 
>> Some of out tiddlywiki users are mathematicians and will be familiar with 
>> this.
>>
>> If however you are not a mathematician they remain available to be used 
>> in a novel way. For example a tiddler named ｌｉｓｔ uses a different full 
>> width character set and their are at least 6 other full alpha numeric sets.
>>
>> In tiddlywiki it actually supports these character sets as tiddler titles 
>> and the search will not find them unless you are searching using characters 
>> from the alternate set. These characters display differently like ｌｉｓｔ 
>> or 퓵퓲퓼퓽 or 퐋퐢퐬퐭.
>>
>> Now I see quite a lot of uses for this but there is one thing I can't 
>> find, I want to quickly remap my keyboard to use one of the alternate sets 
>> only for alphanumeric keys, upper and lower case, and switch back with 
>> ease, All my searches point to changing languages, or entering Unicode from 
>> a multi-key strokes and not what I need.
>>
>> Any ideas or pointers would be great. 
>>
>>- I am using windows 10
>>- There must be software already for this is my guess
>>- It would be ideal if a onscreen keyboard is needed, that while open 
>>you can use the matching key to type text off the physical keyboard.
>>
>> Why?
>>
>>- This effectively creates an additional namespace for each 
>>character set, remember these look like different fonts but they are also 
>>different characters.
>>- An example may be for different tiddlers named list, ｌｉｓｔ, 퓵퓲퓼퓽 
>>or 퐋퐢퐬퐭. 
>>   - One could be a standard tiddler "list", a tiddler to transclude 
>>   for ｌｉｓｔs, a tiddler defining a variable called 퓵퓲퓼퓽 etc...
>>- I have tested tiddler titles and macro definitions and they work 
>>and are different from those with the standard character set.
>>- There are other opportunities exposed by this if I can find an easy 
>>way to use them, this post would be too long winded I tried to share 
>> these 
>>now. 
>>
>> Thanks in advance if you have any experience with this and can share.
>>
>> Tones
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlyspot down ... gone?

[Joshua Fontany]

Wow, that sucks. Cool to see the community try to mitigate the damage...

Best of luck,
Joshua F 

On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 7:12:45 PM UTC-7 TW Tones wrote:

> Folks Simon et all
>
> Although I do not know how to set up my own tiddlyspot, I wanted to 
> contact Simon to offer my own hosting (cpanel/apache) but even 
> http://tiddlyspot.blogspot.com/ 
> 
>   
> is not live. 
>
> My host although in Australia, international cloud flare CDN should make 
> this practical from my host.
>
> Any Suggestions?
>
> I have a few personally, somewhat neglected tiddlyspots, and can live 
> without them, but over the years a lot of great solutions were documented 
> on tiddlyspot sites, I would hate to see them lost.
>
> The key questions are?
>
>- Is there a fairly recent backup?
>- What is its total size?
>- What technologies does it need?
>- Would it be easy to bring up elsewhere?
>- Can we find a way to mirror it to avoid loss.
>
> Feel free to send a private message with contact info for Simon if you 
> have it.
>
> Regards
> Tones
>
>
> On Saturday, 24 October 2020 06:44:47 UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> The message displayed at tiddlyspot doesn't inspire great confidence. 
>> They seem to be offering to sell the site.
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Unicode discovery additional alphabets and tiddlywiki, and a keyboard Question

[TW Tones]

By the way,

I just thought I would mention some of our gurus may know how to build the 
ability to type in the alternate alpha-numeric characters into tiddlywiki, 
an example may be a custom language that maps to these alternates.

What if this could go into the *pre-release *or a plugin for it were 
available?

 additional alphanumeric characters here 
https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1D400.pdf

Regards
Tones

On Monday, 26 October 2020 12:56:26 UTC+11, TW Tones wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> I have discovered that the Unicode standard has additional alphanumeric 
> characters here https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1D400.pdf
>
> The are commonly used to represent variable and other mathematical or 
> algebraic symbols. More often than not these will be used within a formula. 
> Some of out tiddlywiki users are mathematicians and will be familiar with 
> this.
>
> If however you are not a mathematician they remain available to be used in 
> a novel way. For example a tiddler named ｌｉｓｔ uses a different full width 
> character set and their are at least 6 other full alpha numeric sets.
>
> In tiddlywiki it actually supports these character sets as tiddler titles 
> and the search will not find them unless you are searching using characters 
> from the alternate set. These characters display differently like ｌｉｓｔ 
> or 퓵퓲퓼퓽 or 퐋퐢퐬퐭.
>
> Now I see quite a lot of uses for this but there is one thing I can't 
> find, I want to quickly remap my keyboard to use one of the alternate sets 
> only for alphanumeric keys, upper and lower case, and switch back with 
> ease, All my searches point to changing languages, or entering Unicode from 
> a multi-key strokes and not what I need.
>
> Any ideas or pointers would be great. 
>
>- I am using windows 10
>- There must be software already for this is my guess
>- It would be ideal if a onscreen keyboard is needed, that while open 
>you can use the matching key to type text off the physical keyboard.
>
> Why?
>
>- This effectively creates an additional namespace for each 
>character set, remember these look like different fonts but they are also 
>different characters.
>- An example may be for different tiddlers named list, ｌｉｓｔ, 퓵퓲퓼퓽 
>or 퐋퐢퐬퐭. 
>   - One could be a standard tiddler "list", a tiddler to transclude 
>   for ｌｉｓｔs, a tiddler defining a variable called 퓵퓲퓼퓽 etc...
>- I have tested tiddler titles and macro definitions and they work and 
>are different from those with the standard character set.
>- There are other opportunities exposed by this if I can find an easy 
>way to use them, this post would be too long winded I tried to share these 
>now. 
>
> Thanks in advance if you have any experience with this and can share.
>
> Tones
>

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[tw5] Re: Old tiddlywiki, won't save when edited locally

[Alfonso Arciniega]

Hi Eric,

Try open a regular empty TiddlyWiki Classic (not a TiddlySpot version) and 
import your tiddlers from your current version into that one. Do not import 
the TiddlySpot plugins though, you won't need them. Use TiddlyDesktop 
locally, having both TiddlyWikis (yours and the empty one) in the same 
directory.

Download latest releases from TiddlyWiki Classic and TiddlyDesktop from:
https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlyWiki/releases/tag/v2.9.2
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyDesktop/releases/tag/v0.0.14

Cheers,

Alfonso

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Re: [tw5] Re: Bookmark to a TiddlyWiki Bookmarklet proof-of-concept.

[TW Tones]

Amreus,

Great contribution here for the community. Quick collection of urls and 
names would be a wonder full way to quickly collate ones internet research. 

My own server config skills are not strong but please let us know if and 
when this leaves POC and can be widely used.

Just ask if you want some help.

Tones

On Monday, 26 October 2020 09:07:30 UTC+11, amreus wrote:
>
> I just tried in Chrome - worked as expected.   I'm not sure how to 
> troubleshoot from here.   I'll start by reviewing my instructions. I might 
> not get back to things until later in the week. 
>
> On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 3:40:34 PM UTC-4 Atronoush wrote:
>
>> amreus
>>  Thank you for sharing. I created a new wiki tiddlywiki mywiki --init 
>> serverand then created an extra folder files in mywiki folder with 
>> form.html and func.js as you advised.
>>  Running new wiki using  tiddlywiki mywiki --listen csrf-disable=yes  
>> everything 
>> was fine
>>  Now from TWMark bookmarks with bookmark.js, I tried to add a page to my 
>> TW in Chrome 83.
>>  The form opens and let me add tag and save!
>>  But I got this error:
>>
>> localhost: 8080 says
>> xhr.status: 0
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 8:50 PM amreus  wrote:
>>
>>> Just wanted to post the latest code of my bookmarking-to-tw tests.  
>>> Briefly, it works by using a bookmark that opens a popup with a form that 
>>> is populated with the current site title and url, allows editing of fields, 
>>> then sends the data as a new tiddler in a TiddlyWiki running on a node 
>>> server.  It's a 2-click solution.
>>>
>>> There are few parts to the setup, but the files are small and hopefully 
>>> understandable:
>>>
>>>1. A bookmarklet
>>>2. A static html form
>>>3. Javascript functions
>>>4. Server options
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. The bookmarklet is placed in your browser's toolbar. It opens a 
>>> pop-up window getting its contents from the static html form. Because the 
>>> origin of the popup is the same as the wiki server, there are no cross-site 
>>> scripting issues. The site title and url are passed to the html file as 
>>> part of the url using  the u= and t= parameters. 
>>>
>>> 2. A static html file used for a popup window.  I named mine form.html. 
>>> This is a html file which is opened by the bookmarklet. The static file 
>>> contains a form, and includes the javascript functions, and buttons to 
>>> submit or cancel.  A javascript function is used to parse the parameters 
>>> from the url and populate the forms. The file lives in the files/ 
>>> folder under your node wiki location.
>>>
>>> 3.The javascript file (funcs.js in this case)contains helper functions 
>>> that send the form data to the node server using the WebServer API 
>>> .
>>>
>>> 4. Run the server using the *csrf-disable* option set to *yes*.  
>>>
>>> It's cool to see it working, but there's lot's of room for improvement. 
>>> For example I'd like to grab some meta tags from the html as well as just 
>>> the title and url.  
>>>
>>> I put the files on github: 
>>> https://github.com/amreus/bookmarking-to-tiddlywiki 
>>>
>>> Let me know if you have any questions or thoughts. I'm just a hobbyist 
>>> and all my knowledge comes from Stackoverflow, so any improvements would be 
>>> appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks for looking.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 8:45:53 PM UTC-4 joshua@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I've been tinkering with batch importing from Chrome an dFirefox, but 
 that did not solve the "once I have them all in TW what to do going 
 forward" with my TWBookmarks ideas. I will have to come back to this, 
 thanks!

 I think this is a great start! Here is the pertinent Docs on 
 Tiddlywiki.com:

 https://tiddlywiki.com/#WebServer:WebServer%20%5B%5BWebServer%20API%5D%5D%20%5B%5BWebServer%20API%3A%20Put%20Tiddler%5D%5D%20%5B%5BTiddlyWeb%20JSON%20tiddler%20format%5D%5D

 Best,
 Joshua Fontny

 On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 1:20:09 PM UTC-7 amreus wrote:

> Just playing with an idea I might have read about on this forum.  It's 
> not completely  functioning at moment, but enough of it is that I'm 
> certain 
> it can be made to work.
>
> I made a browser bookmarklet that opens a popup window to your local 
> node tiddlywiki, and appends to the wiki address the url and title of a 
> web 
> site. (Basically sends a HTTP GET request to your wiki, passing the site 
> url and title in the query string.)
>
> The wiki has a tiddler that parses the request back into a url and 
> title variable, which can then be used to create tiddlers, etc. 
>
> I tried to write up some instructions here 
> . Apologies if I'm terse. 
> Please ask if you have questions or feedback.
>
> Thanks for looking.
>
>
>
>
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[tw5] Re: Tiddlyspot down ... gone?

[TW Tones]

Folks Simon et all

Although I do not know how to set up my own tiddlyspot, I wanted to contact 
Simon to offer my own hosting (cpanel/apache) but even 
http://tiddlyspot.blogspot.com/ 

  
is not live. 

My host although in Australia, international cloud flare CDN should make 
this practical from my host.

Any Suggestions?

I have a few personally, somewhat neglected tiddlyspots, and can live 
without them, but over the years a lot of great solutions were documented 
on tiddlyspot sites, I would hate to see them lost.

The key questions are?

   - Is there a fairly recent backup?
   - What is its total size?
   - What technologies does it need?
   - Would it be easy to bring up elsewhere?
   - Can we find a way to mirror it to avoid loss.

Feel free to send a private message with contact info for Simon if you have 
it.

Regards
Tones


On Saturday, 24 October 2020 06:44:47 UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>
> The message displayed at tiddlyspot doesn't inspire great confidence. They 
> seem to be offering to sell the site.
>
>
>

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[tw5] Unicode discovery additional alphabets and tiddlywiki, and a keyboard Question

[TW Tones]

Folks,

I have discovered that the Unicode standard has additional alphanumeric 
characters here https://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U1D400.pdf

The are commonly used to represent variable and other mathematical or 
algebraic symbols. More often than not these will be used within a formula. 
Some of out tiddlywiki users are mathematicians and will be familiar with 
this.

If however you are not a mathematician they remain available to be used in 
a novel way. For example a tiddler named ｌｉｓｔ uses a different full width 
character set and their are at least 6 other full alpha numeric sets.

In tiddlywiki it actually supports these character sets as tiddler titles 
and the search will not find them unless you are searching using characters 
from the alternate set. These characters display differently like ｌｉｓｔ 
or 퓵퓲퓼퓽 or 퐋퐢퐬퐭.

Now I see quite a lot of uses for this but there is one thing I can't find, 
I want to quickly remap my keyboard to use one of the alternate sets only 
for alphanumeric keys, upper and lower case, and switch back with ease, All 
my searches point to changing languages, or entering Unicode from a 
multi-key strokes and not what I need.

Any ideas or pointers would be great. 

   - I am using windows 10
   - There must be software already for this is my guess
   - It would be ideal if a onscreen keyboard is needed, that while open 
   you can use the matching key to type text off the physical keyboard.

Why?

   - This effectively creates an additional namespace for each 
   character set, remember these look like different fonts but they are also 
   different characters.
   - An example may be for different tiddlers named list, ｌｉｓｔ, 퓵퓲퓼퓽 or 
   퐋퐢퐬퐭. 
  - One could be a standard tiddler "list", a tiddler to transclude for 
  ｌｉｓｔs, a tiddler defining a variable called 퓵퓲퓼퓽 etc...
   - I have tested tiddler titles and macro definitions and they work and 
   are different from those with the standard character set.
   - There are other opportunities exposed by this if I can find an easy 
   way to use them, this post would be too long winded I tried to share these 
   now. 

Thanks in advance if you have any experience with this and can share.

Tones

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[tw5] Re: Old tiddlywiki, won't save when edited locally

[Eric Pavey]

I just saw there is a tiddlywiki classic group. I'll move this conversation 
over there, but hey, I'll take help here too if anyone has it.
On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 6:41:24 PM UTC-7 Eric Pavey wrote:

> I've been using the same tiddlywiki daily/weekly since 2007, on 
> Tiddlyspot.  Now that Tiddlyspot vaporized, I've realized any changes I 
> make to my backups won't save locally.  I'm using Chrome, and my tiddlywiki 
> version is 2.7.  BTW, I tried to use the upgrade tools and it just mangles 
> all my tiddler formatting, not that I'm doing anything special/custom at 
> all in that area.
>
> The error on Chrome/Win10 I get when I press the 'save' button is:
>
> This page says
> It's not possible to save changes. Possible reasons include:
> - your browser doesn't support saving (Firefox, Internet Explorer, Safari 
> and opera all work if configured)
> - the pathname to your TiddlyWiki file contains illegal characters
> - thetiddlyWiki HTML has been moved or renamed.
>
> Years ago, these same pages saved just fine locally.  The paths are fine 
> :(file:///C:/Users/MyName/Documents/wikis/mywiki.html)
>
> Boy do I miss Tiddlyspot:  Any ideas on what to do here to get these to 
> save locally?  I've tried saving on Edge, save error.
>

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[tw5] Old tiddlywiki, won't save when edited locally

[Eric Pavey]

I've been using the same tiddlywiki daily/weekly since 2007, on 
Tiddlyspot.  Now that Tiddlyspot vaporized, I've realized any changes I 
make to my backups won't save locally.  I'm using Chrome, and my tiddlywiki 
version is 2.7.  BTW, I tried to use the upgrade tools and it just mangles 
all my tiddler formatting, not that I'm doing anything special/custom at 
all in that area.

The error on Chrome/Win10 I get when I press the 'save' button is:

This page says
It's not possible to save changes. Possible reasons include:
- your browser doesn't support saving (Firefox, Internet Explorer, Safari 
and opera all work if configured)
- the pathname to your TiddlyWiki file contains illegal characters
- thetiddlyWiki HTML has been moved or renamed.

Years ago, these same pages saved just fine locally.  The paths are fine 
:(file:///C:/Users/MyName/Documents/wikis/mywiki.html)

Boy do I miss Tiddlyspot:  Any ideas on what to do here to get these to 
save locally?  I've tried saving on Edge, save error.

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlyspot down ... gone?

[Alvin]

I never had a problem with TiddlySpot not being up to date—it did the job, 
for which I am very grateful. Thank you, Daniel!

Two of my TiddlySpot files constitute my online brain, which I accessed and 
modified almost daily, and I have three more that were simply projects.  If 
I can get the most current versions it would be wonderful.

On Friday, October 23, 2020 at 2:44:47 PM UTC-5 Mark S. wrote:

> The message displayed at tiddlyspot doesn't inspire great confidence. They 
> seem to be offering to sell the site.
>
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Bookmark to a TiddlyWiki Bookmarklet proof-of-concept.

[amreus]

I just tried in Chrome - worked as expected.   I'm not sure how to 
troubleshoot from here.   I'll start by reviewing my instructions. I might 
not get back to things until later in the week. 

On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 3:40:34 PM UTC-4 Atronoush wrote:

> amreus
>  Thank you for sharing. I created a new wiki tiddlywiki mywiki --init 
> serverand then created an extra folder files in mywiki folder with 
> form.html and func.js as you advised.
>  Running new wiki using  tiddlywiki mywiki --listen csrf-disable=yes  
> everything 
> was fine
>  Now from TWMark bookmarks with bookmark.js, I tried to add a page to my 
> TW in Chrome 83.
>  The form opens and let me add tag and save!
>  But I got this error:
>
> localhost: 8080 says
> xhr.status: 0
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 8:50 PM amreus  wrote:
>
>> Just wanted to post the latest code of my bookmarking-to-tw tests.  
>> Briefly, it works by using a bookmark that opens a popup with a form that 
>> is populated with the current site title and url, allows editing of fields, 
>> then sends the data as a new tiddler in a TiddlyWiki running on a node 
>> server.  It's a 2-click solution.
>>
>> There are few parts to the setup, but the files are small and hopefully 
>> understandable:
>>
>>1. A bookmarklet
>>2. A static html form
>>3. Javascript functions
>>4. Server options
>>
>>
>> 1. The bookmarklet is placed in your browser's toolbar. It opens a pop-up 
>> window getting its contents from the static html form. Because the origin 
>> of the popup is the same as the wiki server, there are no cross-site 
>> scripting issues. The site title and url are passed to the html file as 
>> part of the url using  the u= and t= parameters. 
>>
>> 2. A static html file used for a popup window.  I named mine form.html. 
>> This is a html file which is opened by the bookmarklet. The static file 
>> contains a form, and includes the javascript functions, and buttons to 
>> submit or cancel.  A javascript function is used to parse the parameters 
>> from the url and populate the forms. The file lives in the files/ folder 
>> under your node wiki location.
>>
>> 3.The javascript file (funcs.js in this case)contains helper functions 
>> that send the form data to the node server using the WebServer API 
>> .
>>
>> 4. Run the server using the *csrf-disable* option set to *yes*.  
>>
>> It's cool to see it working, but there's lot's of room for improvement. 
>> For example I'd like to grab some meta tags from the html as well as just 
>> the title and url.  
>>
>> I put the files on github: 
>> https://github.com/amreus/bookmarking-to-tiddlywiki 
>>
>> Let me know if you have any questions or thoughts. I'm just a hobbyist 
>> and all my knowledge comes from Stackoverflow, so any improvements would be 
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks for looking.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 8:45:53 PM UTC-4 joshua@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've been tinkering with batch importing from Chrome an dFirefox, but 
>>> that did not solve the "once I have them all in TW what to do going 
>>> forward" with my TWBookmarks ideas. I will have to come back to this, 
>>> thanks!
>>>
>>> I think this is a great start! Here is the pertinent Docs on 
>>> Tiddlywiki.com:
>>>
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#WebServer:WebServer%20%5B%5BWebServer%20API%5D%5D%20%5B%5BWebServer%20API%3A%20Put%20Tiddler%5D%5D%20%5B%5BTiddlyWeb%20JSON%20tiddler%20format%5D%5D
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Joshua Fontny
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 1:20:09 PM UTC-7 amreus wrote:
>>>
 Just playing with an idea I might have read about on this forum.  It's 
 not completely  functioning at moment, but enough of it is that I'm 
 certain 
 it can be made to work.

 I made a browser bookmarklet that opens a popup window to your local 
 node tiddlywiki, and appends to the wiki address the url and title of a 
 web 
 site. (Basically sends a HTTP GET request to your wiki, passing the site 
 url and title in the query string.)

 The wiki has a tiddler that parses the request back into a url and 
 title variable, which can then be used to create tiddlers, etc. 

 I tried to write up some instructions here 
 . Apologies if I'm terse. Please 
 ask if you have questions or feedback.

 Thanks for looking.




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Re: [tw5] Re: Bookmark to a TiddlyWiki Bookmarklet proof-of-concept.

[amreus]

"Testing? We don't need no stinking Testing."

Seriously, though I use Firefox and will need to try it using Chrome.  I 
don't have it installed but do have a portable version I can try. 

If you know how to open the Chrome developer console, it would be helpful 
to see if there are any errors generated when you hot the "Save" button.




On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 3:40:34 PM UTC-4 Atronoush wrote:

> amreus
>  Thank you for sharing. I created a new wiki tiddlywiki mywiki --init 
> serverand then created an extra folder files in mywiki folder with 
> form.html and func.js as you advised.
>  Running new wiki using  tiddlywiki mywiki --listen csrf-disable=yes  
> everything 
> was fine
>  Now from TWMark bookmarks with bookmark.js, I tried to add a page to my 
> TW in Chrome 83.
>  The form opens and let me add tag and save!
>  But I got this error:
>
> localhost: 8080 says
> xhr.status: 0
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 8:50 PM amreus  wrote:
>
>> Just wanted to post the latest code of my bookmarking-to-tw tests.  
>> Briefly, it works by using a bookmark that opens a popup with a form that 
>> is populated with the current site title and url, allows editing of fields, 
>> then sends the data as a new tiddler in a TiddlyWiki running on a node 
>> server.  It's a 2-click solution.
>>
>> There are few parts to the setup, but the files are small and hopefully 
>> understandable:
>>
>>1. A bookmarklet
>>2. A static html form
>>3. Javascript functions
>>4. Server options
>>
>>
>> 1. The bookmarklet is placed in your browser's toolbar. It opens a pop-up 
>> window getting its contents from the static html form. Because the origin 
>> of the popup is the same as the wiki server, there are no cross-site 
>> scripting issues. The site title and url are passed to the html file as 
>> part of the url using  the u= and t= parameters. 
>>
>> 2. A static html file used for a popup window.  I named mine form.html. 
>> This is a html file which is opened by the bookmarklet. The static file 
>> contains a form, and includes the javascript functions, and buttons to 
>> submit or cancel.  A javascript function is used to parse the parameters 
>> from the url and populate the forms. The file lives in the files/ folder 
>> under your node wiki location.
>>
>> 3.The javascript file (funcs.js in this case)contains helper functions 
>> that send the form data to the node server using the WebServer API 
>> .
>>
>> 4. Run the server using the *csrf-disable* option set to *yes*.  
>>
>> It's cool to see it working, but there's lot's of room for improvement. 
>> For example I'd like to grab some meta tags from the html as well as just 
>> the title and url.  
>>
>> I put the files on github: 
>> https://github.com/amreus/bookmarking-to-tiddlywiki 
>>
>> Let me know if you have any questions or thoughts. I'm just a hobbyist 
>> and all my knowledge comes from Stackoverflow, so any improvements would be 
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks for looking.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 8:45:53 PM UTC-4 joshua@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've been tinkering with batch importing from Chrome an dFirefox, but 
>>> that did not solve the "once I have them all in TW what to do going 
>>> forward" with my TWBookmarks ideas. I will have to come back to this, 
>>> thanks!
>>>
>>> I think this is a great start! Here is the pertinent Docs on 
>>> Tiddlywiki.com:
>>>
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#WebServer:WebServer%20%5B%5BWebServer%20API%5D%5D%20%5B%5BWebServer%20API%3A%20Put%20Tiddler%5D%5D%20%5B%5BTiddlyWeb%20JSON%20tiddler%20format%5D%5D
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Joshua Fontny
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 1:20:09 PM UTC-7 amreus wrote:
>>>
 Just playing with an idea I might have read about on this forum.  It's 
 not completely  functioning at moment, but enough of it is that I'm 
 certain 
 it can be made to work.

 I made a browser bookmarklet that opens a popup window to your local 
 node tiddlywiki, and appends to the wiki address the url and title of a 
 web 
 site. (Basically sends a HTTP GET request to your wiki, passing the site 
 url and title in the query string.)

 The wiki has a tiddler that parses the request back into a url and 
 title variable, which can then be used to create tiddlers, etc. 

 I tried to write up some instructions here 
 . Apologies if I'm terse. Please 
 ask if you have questions or feedback.

 Thanks for looking.




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Re: [tw5] Re: Bookmark to a TiddlyWiki Bookmarklet proof-of-concept.

[Atronoush Parsi]

amreus
 Thank you for sharing. I created a new wiki tiddlywiki mywiki --init serverand
then created an extra folder files in mywiki folder with form.html and
func.js as you advised.
 Running new wiki using  tiddlywiki mywiki --listen csrf-disable=yes
everything
was fine
 Now from TWMark bookmarks with bookmark.js, I tried to add a page to my TW
in Chrome 83.
 The form opens and let me add tag and save!
 But I got this error:

localhost: 8080 says
xhr.status: 0



On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 8:50 PM amreus  wrote:

> Just wanted to post the latest code of my bookmarking-to-tw tests.
> Briefly, it works by using a bookmark that opens a popup with a form that
> is populated with the current site title and url, allows editing of fields,
> then sends the data as a new tiddler in a TiddlyWiki running on a node
> server.  It's a 2-click solution.
>
> There are few parts to the setup, but the files are small and hopefully
> understandable:
>
>1. A bookmarklet
>2. A static html form
>3. Javascript functions
>4. Server options
>
>
> 1. The bookmarklet is placed in your browser's toolbar. It opens a pop-up
> window getting its contents from the static html form. Because the origin
> of the popup is the same as the wiki server, there are no cross-site
> scripting issues. The site title and url are passed to the html file as
> part of the url using  the u= and t= parameters.
>
> 2. A static html file used for a popup window.  I named mine form.html.
> This is a html file which is opened by the bookmarklet. The static file
> contains a form, and includes the javascript functions, and buttons to
> submit or cancel.  A javascript function is used to parse the parameters
> from the url and populate the forms. The file lives in the files/ folder
> under your node wiki location.
>
> 3.The javascript file (funcs.js in this case)contains helper functions
> that send the form data to the node server using the WebServer API
> .
>
> 4. Run the server using the *csrf-disable* option set to *yes*.
>
> It's cool to see it working, but there's lot's of room for improvement.
> For example I'd like to grab some meta tags from the html as well as just
> the title and url.
>
> I put the files on github:
> https://github.com/amreus/bookmarking-to-tiddlywiki
>
> Let me know if you have any questions or thoughts. I'm just a hobbyist and
> all my knowledge comes from Stackoverflow, so any improvements would be
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks for looking.
>
>
> On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 8:45:53 PM UTC-4 joshua@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I've been tinkering with batch importing from Chrome an dFirefox, but
>> that did not solve the "once I have them all in TW what to do going
>> forward" with my TWBookmarks ideas. I will have to come back to this,
>> thanks!
>>
>> I think this is a great start! Here is the pertinent Docs on
>> Tiddlywiki.com:
>>
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#WebServer:WebServer%20%5B%5BWebServer%20API%5D%5D%20%5B%5BWebServer%20API%3A%20Put%20Tiddler%5D%5D%20%5B%5BTiddlyWeb%20JSON%20tiddler%20format%5D%5D
>>
>> Best,
>> Joshua Fontny
>>
>> On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 1:20:09 PM UTC-7 amreus wrote:
>>
>>> Just playing with an idea I might have read about on this forum.  It's
>>> not completely  functioning at moment, but enough of it is that I'm certain
>>> it can be made to work.
>>>
>>> I made a browser bookmarklet that opens a popup window to your local
>>> node tiddlywiki, and appends to the wiki address the url and title of a web
>>> site. (Basically sends a HTTP GET request to your wiki, passing the site
>>> url and title in the query string.)
>>>
>>> The wiki has a tiddler that parses the request back into a url and title
>>> variable, which can then be used to create tiddlers, etc.
>>>
>>> I tried to write up some instructions here
>>> . Apologies if I'm terse. Please
>>> ask if you have questions or feedback.
>>>
>>> Thanks for looking.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[tw5] Re: Are there any alternatives to the mermaid.js plugin?

[Julio Cantarero]

Sorry, I just realized that this link is probably more useful:
https://tobibeer.github.io/tw5-plugins/#plantuml

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[tw5] Re: so: personal DreamHost for TW users?

[Eric Pavey]

@amreus  :  Looks like you've downloaded several of mine: I have backups, 
but yours are much more recent:  If you would email me at 'warpcat at gmail 
dot com', I can provide you the list:  Would be super awesome if you could 
forward me that data.  *Much *appreciated.

I've been using the site weekly (sometimes daily) since around 2007, so 
seeing it 'just vaporize' is painful.

On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 3:03:04 PM UTC-7 amreus wrote:

> I downloaded 128 public tiddlyspot wikis about a week ago.  They were for 
> my personal use and I wasn't planning on sharing them, but would make them 
> available if the site doesn't come back.  Hopefully the site can be 
> restored. I've attached the list I have. 
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 11:53:11 AM UTC-4 hww...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Ciao TT:
>>
>> I gather you are a fan of DreamHost.  If you have a moment I would 
>> appreciate a brief comment on how easy/difficult it might be to set up a 
>> personal account that could host a single TW file.
>>
>> I've browsed their site a bit and it looks appealing, but I could not 
>> find anything that reassures me specifically with respect to TW.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Hans
>>
>> On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 11:10:17 AM UTC-4 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>>> Ciao Eric
>>>
>>> I will write to Dreamhost about this immediately.
>>>
>>> TT
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 24 October 2020 15:58:27 UTC+2, Eric Shulman wrote:

 On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 1:40:41 AM UTC-7, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> I've sent email directly to Simon and Daniel Baird to let them know 
> about the problem.
>

 I just received a reply from Simon Baird... and he says: "It's not a 
 simple fix".

 Here's his blogspot posting explaining the situation: 
 http://tiddlyspot.blogspot.com

 -e

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Bookmark to a TiddlyWiki Bookmarklet proof-of-concept.

[amreus]

Just wanted to post the latest code of my bookmarking-to-tw tests.  
Briefly, it works by using a bookmark that opens a popup with a form that 
is populated with the current site title and url, allows editing of fields, 
then sends the data as a new tiddler in a TiddlyWiki running on a node 
server.  It's a 2-click solution.

There are few parts to the setup, but the files are small and hopefully 
understandable:

   1. A bookmarklet
   2. A static html form
   3. Javascript functions
   4. Server options


1. The bookmarklet is placed in your browser's toolbar. It opens a pop-up 
window getting its contents from the static html form. Because the origin 
of the popup is the same as the wiki server, there are no cross-site 
scripting issues. The site title and url are passed to the html file as 
part of the url using  the u= and t= parameters. 

2. A static html file used for a popup window.  I named mine form.html. 
This is a html file which is opened by the bookmarklet. The static file 
contains a form, and includes the javascript functions, and buttons to 
submit or cancel.  A javascript function is used to parse the parameters 
from the url and populate the forms. The file lives in the files/ folder 
under your node wiki location.

3.The javascript file (funcs.js in this case)contains helper functions that 
send the form data to the node server using the WebServer API 
.

4. Run the server using the *csrf-disable* option set to *yes*.  

It's cool to see it working, but there's lot's of room for improvement. For 
example I'd like to grab some meta tags from the html as well as just the 
title and url.  

I put the files on github: 
https://github.com/amreus/bookmarking-to-tiddlywiki 

Let me know if you have any questions or thoughts. I'm just a hobbyist and 
all my knowledge comes from Stackoverflow, so any improvements would be 
appreciated.

Thanks for looking.


On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 8:45:53 PM UTC-4 joshua@gmail.com wrote:

> I've been tinkering with batch importing from Chrome an dFirefox, but that 
> did not solve the "once I have them all in TW what to do going forward" 
> with my TWBookmarks ideas. I will have to come back to this, thanks!
>
> I think this is a great start! Here is the pertinent Docs on 
> Tiddlywiki.com:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#WebServer:WebServer%20%5B%5BWebServer%20API%5D%5D%20%5B%5BWebServer%20API%3A%20Put%20Tiddler%5D%5D%20%5B%5BTiddlyWeb%20JSON%20tiddler%20format%5D%5D
>
> Best,
> Joshua Fontny
>
> On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 1:20:09 PM UTC-7 amreus wrote:
>
>> Just playing with an idea I might have read about on this forum.  It's 
>> not completely  functioning at moment, but enough of it is that I'm certain 
>> it can be made to work.
>>
>> I made a browser bookmarklet that opens a popup window to your local node 
>> tiddlywiki, and appends to the wiki address the url and title of a web 
>> site. (Basically sends a HTTP GET request to your wiki, passing the site 
>> url and title in the query string.)
>>
>> The wiki has a tiddler that parses the request back into a url and title 
>> variable, which can then be used to create tiddlers, etc. 
>>
>> I tried to write up some instructions here 
>> . Apologies if I'm terse. Please 
>> ask if you have questions or feedback.
>>
>> Thanks for looking.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlyspot down ... gone?

[Eric Thompson]

Any chance this is recoverable with the way back machine?

On Friday, October 23, 2020 at 3:44:47 PM UTC-4 Mark S. wrote:

> The message displayed at tiddlyspot doesn't inspire great confidence. They 
> seem to be offering to sell the site.
>
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Does the search not work in prerelease link insertion?

[Saq Imtiaz]

Ticket created: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/4910

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Re: [tw5] Does the search not work in prerelease link insertion?

[Saq Imtiaz]

I suspect this is due to PR 4875, as I did test the toolbar link dropdown 
after we introduced the keyboard-driven-macro, including extending it to be 
usable via a keyboard only workflow.

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/4875

I suspect configTiddler needs to be defined for the dropdown:
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/4875/files#diff-b4f2091e7fe5d0fa2d16dc46b6b88ea843a2702f573923959f2fedc6fbf6e7e0R11

On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 5:05:50 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Bimlas
>
> Thanks, that’s definitely a bug introduced with the recent changes to 
> keyboard handling for search results. Please could you kindly open a ticket 
> over on GitHub?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
> On 25 Oct 2020, at 15:57, bimlas > wrote:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/ -> New tiddler -> Create wikitext link 
> (in toolbar) -> search for "HelloThere", it doesn't give me search results 
> in either Chrome or Firefox.
>
> Related note: Keyboard selection in this popup would also be good if would 
> be available (when I last tried, I wasn’t able to select the title with the 
> keyboard).
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[tw5] Re: Enable CORS on local node server?

[amreus]

In my previous post, I meant "expectations" not "exceptions."  As in "The 
fact that the API didn't do what I expected does not mean it's a bug."


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[tw5] Re: so: personal DreamHost for TW users?

[Ste]

Might be time to rent a pi and get bob-ing
https://www.mythic-beasts.com/
Here is hoping they get things back up. 
The wayback machine is also good for getting that tiddlyspot that's not 
been updated for 
a while but is still usefull. 
Less good for last weeks updates. :(

On Sunday, 25 October 2020 at 15:56:52 UTC Mark S. wrote:

> You would need to set up something like store.php or tw-receiver on the 
> site. It would be interesting to know how large the tiddlyspot collection 
> was (is?) . I'm guessing when it hit a certain size it triggered an 
> internal Dreamhost audit.
>
>
> On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 8:53:11 AM UTC-7, Hans Wobbe wrote:
>>
>>
>> Ciao TT:
>>
>> I gather you are a fan of DreamHost.  If you have a moment I would 
>> appreciate a brief comment on how easy/difficult it might be to set up a 
>> personal account that could host a single TW file.
>>
>> I've browsed their site a bit and it looks appealing, but I could not 
>> find anything that reassures me specifically with respect to TW.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Hans
>>
>> On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 11:10:17 AM UTC-4 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>>> Ciao Eric
>>>
>>> I will write to Dreamhost about this immediately.
>>>
>>> TT
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 24 October 2020 15:58:27 UTC+2, Eric Shulman wrote:

 On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 1:40:41 AM UTC-7, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> I've sent email directly to Simon and Daniel Baird to let them know 
> about the problem.
>

 I just received a reply from Simon Baird... and he says: "It's not a 
 simple fix".

 Here's his blogspot posting explaining the situation: 
 http://tiddlyspot.blogspot.com

 -e

>>>

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Re: [tw5] Does the search not work in prerelease link insertion?

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Bimlas

Thanks, that’s definitely a bug introduced with the recent changes to keyboard 
handling for search results. Please could you kindly open a ticket over on 
GitHub?

Many thanks,

Jeremy.


> On 25 Oct 2020, at 15:57, bimlas  wrote:
> 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/ -> New tiddler -> Create wikitext link (in 
> toolbar) -> search for "HelloThere", it doesn't give me search results in 
> either Chrome or Firefox.
> 
> Related note: Keyboard selection in this popup would also be good if would be 
> available (when I last tried, I wasn’t able to select the title with the 
> keyboard).
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[tw5] Does the search not work in prerelease link insertion?

[bimlas]

https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/ -> New tiddler -> Create wikitext link 
(in toolbar) -> search for "HelloThere", it doesn't give me search results 
in either Chrome or Firefox.

Related note: Keyboard selection in this popup would also be good if would 
be available (when I last tried, I wasn’t able to select the title with the 
keyboard).

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[tw5] Re: so: personal DreamHost for TW users?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

You would need to set up something like store.php or tw-receiver on the 
site. It would be interesting to know how large the tiddlyspot collection 
was (is?) . I'm guessing when it hit a certain size it triggered an 
internal Dreamhost audit.

On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 8:53:11 AM UTC-7, Hans Wobbe wrote:
>
>
> Ciao TT:
>
> I gather you are a fan of DreamHost.  If you have a moment I would 
> appreciate a brief comment on how easy/difficult it might be to set up a 
> personal account that could host a single TW file.
>
> I've browsed their site a bit and it looks appealing, but I could not find 
> anything that reassures me specifically with respect to TW.
>
> Cheers,
> Hans
>
> On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 11:10:17 AM UTC-4 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>> Ciao Eric
>>
>> I will write to Dreamhost about this immediately.
>>
>> TT
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, 24 October 2020 15:58:27 UTC+2, Eric Shulman wrote:
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 1:40:41 AM UTC-7, Eric Shulman wrote:

 I've sent email directly to Simon and Daniel Baird to let them know 
 about the problem.

>>>
>>> I just received a reply from Simon Baird... and he says: "It's not a 
>>> simple fix".
>>>
>>> Here's his blogspot posting explaining the situation: 
>>> http://tiddlyspot.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> -e
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Competition for v5.1.23 artwork

[bimlas]

> I think that the numbers don't jump out clearly enough from Bimlas' 
artwork.
> I'd think the sharpest contrast would be if the characters are white. But 
I can see how it needs some pretty colours so one idea would be to add some 
shimmer for the chassi part. Think CD disk reflection. Just an idea.

For now, let’s look at it in white letters and see what it’s like.

[image: v5.1.23.png]

> Here's an idea: Instead of the Q key, use a T to make it read TW... 

Good idea, I didn't think of that. Originally, I also wanted to force the 
word "ZIP" on the image somehow because of the new Zip feature, but your 
idea fits the image better.

> Amusingly, the idea echoes the cover artwork of a book of mine in the 
1980s

Classic but nice effect to play with keyboard keys. :)

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[tw5] Re: so: personal DreamHost for TW users?

[Birthe C]

In the middle of the depression over the losses on tiddlyspot, I managed to 
save 3 of my wikies...I would hate to loose the most. My laptop had not 
been used for 2 weeks, but when I opened it I realised it was on 
hibernation, so sure enough it opened with the browser and the TWspot tabs 
open - so I was able to save them from browser memory without refreshing. 
That has calmed me down a bit for now.

Backups...sure, only problem my external hard drive with the backups broke 
a couple of days ago.

We have been lucky to be able to use tiddlyspot for so long.


Birthe

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki server using AWS Lambda

[desEsseintes]

I tried looking at both the AWS plug-in documentation and the code, but was 
unable to figure it out.

On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 1:00:54 PM UTC Mohamed Amin wrote:

> Hi desEsseintes,
>
> I'm not an expert , but did you check the AWS plugin? if not, check this 
> Post : https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/Tiddlywiki/GwPAfMOKeeo
>
> P.S., I hope to see your tutorial soon :)
>
> Regards
> M.A.
>
>
> On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 6:19:47 PM UTC+2, desEsseintes wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone!
>>
>> I am attempting to set up personal TiddlyWiki notebooks that I can access 
>> over the web. I understand that it's possible to set up a Node.js server on 
>> an AWS EC2 instance and use the server edition of TW5. However, I don't 
>> want to do this - I'd be paying Amazon to run a server 24/7 and I only want 
>> to pay for my notebooks when I am reading from or writing to them.
>>
>> I have been trying to set up a lambda function which can serve my 
>> notebooks for me. What I want to do is the following:
>>
>>1. When I access `domain.com/notebook`  
>>and authenticate, a lambda function loads `notebook` from my S3 bucket 
>> and 
>>serves it to me.
>>2. I read and make changes to my notebook in my browser.
>>3. As I make changes, a lambda function saves the modified tiddlers 
>>to my S3 bucket.
>>
>> Is this possible? If so,
>>
>>1. How do I get the output of `tiddlywiki editions/aws --build 
>>lambda` to serve a notebook?
>>2. How do I replace the saver with something that writes to S3?
>>
>> If I get this working, I promise I'll write a tutorial - I haven't been 
>> able to find one, and I think this would be a fantastic way to run TW5: 
>> lambdas and S3 are extremely cheap and this would be more convenient than 
>> synchronising over DropBox.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> PS. Yihang asked a similar question 
>>  in 
>> 2018, but it was unanswered.
>>
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[tw5] Re: Enable CORS on local node server?

[amreus]

Apologies Jed - it just didn't meet my exceptions.  Hope I didn't waste too 
much of your time. 

But after some thought, it turns out for my purpose (bookmarking directly 
to a wiki via a bookmarklet) there is no need to enable CORS. TiddlyWiki's 
default node server works just fine. I'll document in another topic. 

On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 4:29:12 AM UTC-4 inmy...@gmail.com wrote:

> This isn't a bug in Bob, it works as intended.
>
> If the behaviour isn't what you want or expect you can put a feature 
> request on GitHub that clearly states your request. The guidelines for bugs 
> and feature requests are here https://ooktech-public.gitlab.io/guidelines/
>
> On Saturday, October 17, 2020 at 2:26:34 AM UTC+2 amreus wrote:
>
>> I've been testing this using Jed's BobWin.exe on Windows. It works the 
>> same without the need to modify the server so I think I'm going to target 
>> Bob as the server. instead of the TiddlyWiki node server. 
>>
>> (There's currently a bug in bob 
>>  that the created and 
>> modified fields are incorrect.)
>>
>> Here's a basic bookmarklet for a bob server:
>>
>> javascript: (
>>   function () {
>> var data = { tiddlers: {'0': {'fields': {'title': window.location.
>> href,'caption': document.title ;
>> var tid = JSON.stringify(data);
>> var xhr = new XMLHttpRequest();
>> const wikiname = 'bookmarks';
>> xhr.timeout = 1;
>> xhr.onreadystatechange = function () {
>>   console.log('xhr.readyState: ' + xhr.readyState);
>>   console.log('xhr.status: ' + xhr.status);
>>   console.log('xhr.responseText: ' + xhr.responseText);
>>   console.log('xhr.statusText: ' + xhr.statusText);
>> };
>> xhr.open('POST', `http://127.0.0.1:8080/api/push/${wikiname}`);
>> xhr.send(tid);
>>   })();
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 5:40:45 AM UTC-4 amreus wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you. I could use a lot of help with everything. I'm not a 
>>> programmer - I  just play around with things sometimes. The javascript is 
>>> all very hacky and it would be nice to offer the cors as an option instead 
>>> of having it hard-coded.  I can share what I have on github if you or 
>>> anyone else is interested. 
>>>
>>> I have not tried anything other than Firefox on Windows 10.
>>>
>>> Here's an image of the fields I am grabbing.  I decided to hide the 
>>> tiddlers as system tiddlers and use the caption field for display. Also 
>>> changed to using the URL as the unique identifier instead of the html title 
>>> tag. 
>>>
>>> There is a major downside - since you can't catch CORS errors in 
>>> javascript, I'm not sure how to notify the user if the bookmarking fails 
>>> for that reason.  Specifically there is a problem with bookmarking Github 
>>> pages - they are blocking the javascript and I get an error: " Content 
>>> Security Policy: The page’s settings blocked the loading of a resource at 
>>> inline (“script-src”)." I'm not sure if that can be overcome yet.
>>>
>>> But over-all I'm happy with how well it works.  Just browse and click to 
>>> bookmark.  Then use all of the tools available in TiddlyWiki to organize 
>>> your bookmarks. It's slightly less convenient than the built-in bookmarks 
>>> library but vastly more powerful. 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 9:01:23 PM UTC-4 joshua@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Excellent work! I've been following you progress. I will definitely use 
 something like this in my Bookmarks plugin.

 Has this been tested in multiple browsers? I also really like how this 
 opens up the possibility to write tiddlers to a wiki-tab while your 
 browser 
 has another tab or content in view. Mahalo (thanks)!

 Best,
 Joshua Fontany
 On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 2:10:21 AM UTC-7 amreus wrote:

> Thanks Joshua,
>
> I did figure enough of it it out to get a working bookmarklet. I had 
> to add the right headers to the server.js file and put handler file. 
>
> I'm not an expert but I think it is safe enough.  The code is a 
> bookmarklet which calls the WebServer API .  The result is I can press my 
> bookmarklet button on any page and have a tiddler created from the web 
> page 
> info. Kind of cool but I'm not sure how useful it really is.  I think I'm 
> motivated by curiosity and the challenge more than the utility. 
>
> Here's the bookmarklet as of now:
>
>   function () {
> var e = encodeURIComponent;
> var t = document.title;
> var u = window.location.href;
> var data = JSON.stringify({ "tags": "Link", "url": u });
> var xhr = new XMLHttpRequest();
> xhr.open('PUT', 'http://127.0.0.1:8080/recipes/default/tiddlers/'
>  + t);
> xhr.setRequestHeader('x-requested-with', 'TiddlyWiki');
> xhr.onreadystatechange = function () {
>   if (xhr.readyState === 4) {
> 

Re: [tw5] Competition for v5.1.23 artwork

[Mat]

Jeremy wrote:

> @bimlas [...] Perhaps making the digits much bolder, and a more 
> contrasting colour, would help.
>

I'd think the sharpest contrast would be if the characters are white. But I 
can see how it needs some pretty colours so one idea would be to add some 
shimmer for the chassi part. Think CD disk reflection. Just an idea.
 

It's a poor quality image but you may be able to see that I rearranged the 
> key caps so that the top row spells "BY:J.RUSTON".
>

Had it just been a tad more visible we might have had another keyboard 
standard today! 

<:-)


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Re: [tw5] Competition for v5.1.23 artwork

[Jeremy Ruston]

I think that the numbers don't jump out clearly enough from Bimlas' artwork. A 
good test is to move away from the screen and squint ones eyes so that the 
artwork goes fuzzy; the digits should still be as legible as possible. Perhaps 
making the digits much bolder, and a more contrasting colour, would help.

Amusingly, the idea echoes the cover artwork of a book of mine in the 1980s:



http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/4087/The-BBC-Micro-Compendium/

It's a poor quality image but you may be able to see that I rearranged the key 
caps so that the top row spells "BY:J.RUSTON".

Best wishes

Jeremy.


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> On 25 Oct 2020, at 12:31, Mat  wrote:
> 
> @bimlas, I love your contribution. Here's an idea: Instead of the Q key, use 
> a T to make it read TW... 
> 
> <:-)
> 
>> On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 8:40:45 AM UTC+2 bimlas wrote:
>> Final version, forget the previous ones:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> bimlas a következőt írta (2020. október 21., szerda, 12:55:59 UTC+2):
>>> Another version:
>>> 
>>> 
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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki server using AWS Lambda

[Mohamed Amin]

Hi desEsseintes,

I'm not an expert , but did you check the AWS plugin? if not, check this 
Post : https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/Tiddlywiki/GwPAfMOKeeo

P.S., I hope to see your tutorial soon :)

Regards
M.A.

On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 6:19:47 PM UTC+2, desEsseintes wrote:
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> I am attempting to set up personal TiddlyWiki notebooks that I can access 
> over the web. I understand that it's possible to set up a Node.js server on 
> an AWS EC2 instance and use the server edition of TW5. However, I don't 
> want to do this - I'd be paying Amazon to run a server 24/7 and I only want 
> to pay for my notebooks when I am reading from or writing to them.
>
> I have been trying to set up a lambda function which can serve my 
> notebooks for me. What I want to do is the following:
>
>1. When I access `domain.com/notebook`  
>and authenticate, a lambda function loads `notebook` from my S3 bucket and 
>serves it to me.
>2. I read and make changes to my notebook in my browser.
>3. As I make changes, a lambda function saves the modified tiddlers to 
>my S3 bucket.
>
> Is this possible? If so,
>
>1. How do I get the output of `tiddlywiki editions/aws --build lambda` 
>to serve a notebook?
>2. How do I replace the saver with something that writes to S3?
>
> If I get this working, I promise I'll write a tutorial - I haven't been 
> able to find one, and I think this would be a fantastic way to run TW5: 
> lambdas and S3 are extremely cheap and this would be more convenient than 
> synchronising over DropBox.
>
> Thanks!
>
> PS. Yihang asked a similar question 
>  in 
> 2018, but it was unanswered.
>

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[tw5] Re: so: personal DreamHost for TW users?

[Chuck R.]

> I will give it a try on my host though and see if I can make and save 
changes to a TW file there. 

Update: When I hit the TW save button, TW tries to save the button locally, 
not on my host. 


On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 8:36:34 AM UTC-4 Chuck R. wrote:

> > If you have a moment I would appreciate a brief comment on how 
> easy/difficult it might be to set up a personal account that could host a 
> single TW file. 
>
> I believe it would be very difficult to do without special programming. 
> Site hosts normally require you to use their own uploader software to 
> upload changed files, and TW doesn't do that. I will give it a try on my 
> host though and see if I can make and save changes to a TW file there.
>
> On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 11:53:11 AM UTC-4 hww...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Ciao TT:
>>
>> I gather you are a fan of DreamHost.  If you have a moment I would 
>> appreciate a brief comment on how easy/difficult it might be to set up a 
>> personal account that could host a single TW file.
>>
>> I've browsed their site a bit and it looks appealing, but I could not 
>> find anything that reassures me specifically with respect to TW.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Hans
>>
>> On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 11:10:17 AM UTC-4 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>>> Ciao Eric
>>>
>>> I will write to Dreamhost about this immediately.
>>>
>>> TT
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 24 October 2020 15:58:27 UTC+2, Eric Shulman wrote:

 On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 1:40:41 AM UTC-7, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> I've sent email directly to Simon and Daniel Baird to let them know 
> about the problem.
>

 I just received a reply from Simon Baird... and he says: "It's not a 
 simple fix".

 Here's his blogspot posting explaining the situation: 
 http://tiddlyspot.blogspot.com

 -e

>>>

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[tw5] Re: so: personal DreamHost for TW users?

[Chuck R.]

> If you have a moment I would appreciate a brief comment on how 
easy/difficult it might be to set up a personal account that could host a 
single TW file. 

I believe it would be very difficult to do without special programming. 
Site hosts normally require you to use their own uploader software to 
upload changed files, and TW doesn't do that. I will give it a try on my 
host though and see if I can make and save changes to a TW file there.

On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 11:53:11 AM UTC-4 hww...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Ciao TT:
>
> I gather you are a fan of DreamHost.  If you have a moment I would 
> appreciate a brief comment on how easy/difficult it might be to set up a 
> personal account that could host a single TW file.
>
> I've browsed their site a bit and it looks appealing, but I could not find 
> anything that reassures me specifically with respect to TW.
>
> Cheers,
> Hans
>
> On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 11:10:17 AM UTC-4 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>> Ciao Eric
>>
>> I will write to Dreamhost about this immediately.
>>
>> TT
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, 24 October 2020 15:58:27 UTC+2, Eric Shulman wrote:
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 1:40:41 AM UTC-7, Eric Shulman wrote:

 I've sent email directly to Simon and Daniel Baird to let them know 
 about the problem.

>>>
>>> I just received a reply from Simon Baird... and he says: "It's not a 
>>> simple fix".
>>>
>>> Here's his blogspot posting explaining the situation: 
>>> http://tiddlyspot.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> -e
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Competition for v5.1.23 artwork

[Mat]

@bimlas, I love your contribution. Here's an idea: Instead of the Q key, 
use a T to make it read TW... 

<:-)

On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 8:40:45 AM UTC+2 bimlas wrote:

> Final version, forget the previous ones:
>
> [image: v5.1.23-3.png]
>
> bimlas a következőt írta (2020. október 21., szerda, 12:55:59 UTC+2):
>
>> Another version:
>>
>> [image: v5.1.23-2.png]
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: so: personal DreamHost for TW users?

[Mat]

If this is not recovered, then this is an absolute disaster for me. Please 
note that on http://tiddlyspot.blogspot.com/ Simon Baird requests that we 
contact him:


*"I don't have a good sense of how many people are using it actively now 
and how many would miss it if it were gone. So, if you are seriously 
impacted by Tiddlyspot being unavailable, please let me know how and why. 
" *

I contacted Simon and he encouragingly replied that he will attempt to 
resolve it. Still, I am nervous that people count on others to signal how 
important this is so not enough people make it clear, so do just send a 
note to Simon. (Tell me if you don't have his email. Some other contact 
info can be found here .)

@amreus wrote:

> I downloaded 128 public tiddlyspot wikis about a week ago.
>

Much appreciated @amreus. I note a few of my creations on your list so if 
this is not resolved I will contact you. Thank you.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Critiques: Tiddlywiki and Machine Learning

[PMario]

On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 5:15:10 PM UTC+2, Atronoush wrote:
>
> These days using machine learning has affected software engineering in 
> many ways.
> For example, Gmail is smart and helps you in writing correct english and 
> suggest sentences for you. LinkedIn suggests new connections, and there 
> many mores like Google Assistant and Siri where they use artificial 
> intelligence
>

Thanks for the reminder to get rid of gmail as a spy mail client. Google is 
already like big brother and it's getting worse all the time. 

IMO TiddlyWiki is about owning your data. 

-mario

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[tw5] Re: Are there any alternatives to the mermaid.js plugin?

[Julio Cantarero]

Hi. 
Try https://github.com/tobibeer/tw5-plantuml. It is an excellent plugin for 
plantuml.com 
Julio
El sábado, 24 de octubre de 2020, 23:07:58 (UTC+2), si escribió:
>
> Hi Ste, thanks for the suggestion.
>
> Unfortunately I don't think railroad diagrams are really the same thing. 
>
> On Wednesday, 21 October 2020 16:03:02 UTC+1, Ste wrote:
>>
>>
>> There is rail road diagrams in the core or at least an official plugin. 
>> Not sure if that would help? 
>> On Tuesday, 20 October 2020 at 20:59:27 UTC+1 si wrote:
>>
>>> Hi TT,
>>>
>>> Yes I will add more detail.
>>>
>>> I currently use mermaid to quickly add graphs while I'm writing. I only 
>>> use it for basic graphs like this:
>>>
>>>
>>> I love TiddlyMap but it is not practical for making a lot of small 
>>> graphs. The above graph can be written really quickly and easily in the 
>>> mermaid language.
>>>
>>> Si.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 20 October 2020 19:31:30 UTC+1, TiddlyTweeter wrote:

 Its buggy. Its not maintained. It is a shame :-(.

 If TiddlyMap  won't do as a replacement then 
 you maybe need to say a bit more.

 Best wishes
 TT


 On Tuesday, 20 October 2020 17:19:29 UTC+2, si wrote:
>
> I've been using the mermaid plugin 
>  to draw simple 
> networks/graphs in my wiki. It's nice because it's super quick to use.
>
> Unfortunately it's pretty buggy and has not been updated to the latest 
> version of mermaid for a while.
>
> Anyone know of any alternatives options out there?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>


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