date:20180707

JD,

I have also being working on a sophisticated "tiddler Viewer" like 
TWOutlier 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!msg/tiddlywiki/ol_3zvGPbk8/EdIG3awlBAAJ;context-place=forum/tiddlywiki

but with advanced handling of tiddlers in a TOC structure, this may be a 
good way to present tiddlers that the key use is to edit their text 
content. Add an Edit Text field to their ViewMode and they would never need 
to edit the test. However remember there is value in the draft.of process 
on the main editor.

I have being more interested in the ability to create custom forms from 
individual tiddlers and this means being able to insert edit fields macros 
in the wiki text so they work in view mode or in a custom field 
edit-fields-list so they just open below the tiddler text, I achieved this 
but did not publish because when I thought about it just providing edit 
text on a field is useful in many cases but what if it is used for a date, 
a unique ID, and icon or image link. So now I am building field templates 
that you can save as a prefix/fieldname that define how to handle the field 
when editing. So one based on an image allows image selection, or one based 
on a date, to stamp with now, or to select a date from a calendar. Of 
course you are free to edit this definition and make the edit-field as 
sophisticated as you desire.

I hope then to move on to a view-fields-list so you can display in 
appropriate format the fields (without edit mode or field edit). It Should 
be easy then to encode in a tiddler a mixture of view and edit fields that 
the user can interact with, without going into the stock standard edit 
tiddler mode.

I was playing with edit-fields support for the "text" field, and have not 
quite determined how to make it full width and have the number of rows as 
the content, like the normal edit text fields work, I may very well find 
the answer in TiddlyWikis edit template, which is the beauty of TiddlyWiki, 
almost everything you want to do is done in some way already in tiddlywiki.

Regrads
Tony

On Sunday, July 8, 2018 at 2:19:27 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>
> Ooh, I am definitely talking about both. 
>
> I've implemented a rather barebones way of editing select fields of a 
> tiddler in view mode, in a wiki I use with other people in my work group. 
> The reason for needing such implementation being that someone in my group 
> doesn't want to interact with any other field other than the Text field, 
> and work-related ones. 
>
> I'm looking forward to testing your plugin, and seeing how it could be 
> applied to that specific work wiki :D
>
> On Sunday, July 8, 2018 at 10:46:23 AM UTC+9, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> JD, 
>>
>> Are you talking about Marks dragon or the edit-fields or both?
>>
>> The edit-fields is working for me, but I know to make it east to adopt by 
>> others it needs a professional layer of documentation (Mohammads Reveal 
>> Gradually Macro sets a high standard).
>>
>> The edit fields allows you define field types, then fields and how to 
>> edit them such as dates etc... thus it is a tad more complex to document 
>> effectively, just as my previous "initial release" plugin MyMenus was. 
>>
>> To me it is essential we can can add fields from a list of possible 
>> fields to the edit-fields-list and then change the order, when editing 
>> fields, this is what I need to complete before it deserves listing.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>> On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 10:16:02 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow this is amazing and very useful! You should create a demo site for 
>>> this so it could be listed to the semi-official DynaList ! 
>>>
>>> Or maybe that can also just link to your post as a permalink?
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 2:08:30 PM UTC+9, Mark S. wrote:

 Hi Tony,

 Here's a first pass at your original request. Make a global macro:

 \define dragoncopy(copyfield) 
 <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/fields/$(currentTiddler)$" fieldname=
 """$copyfield$""" fieldvalue={{!!$copyfield$}}/>
 \end
 \define dragonfield(field)
 <$draggable tiddler="$:/fields/$(currentTiddler)$" 
 startactions=<>>> "$field$">>>{{!!$field$}}
 \end
 \define dragondrop3(tid,fieldname)
 <$action-setfield $field="$fieldname$" $value={{$tid$!!fieldvalue}}/>
 \end
 \define dragondrop2(tid)
 <$macrocall $name=dragondrop3 tid="$tid$" fieldname={{$tid$!!fieldname
 }}/>
 \end
 \define dragondrop() 
 <$macrocall $name="dragondrop2" tid=<>/>
 \end
 \define dragonzone(label)
 <$droppable actions=<>>$label$
 \end

 Invoke the drag object like this:

 <>

 and in another tiddler put the drop zone like this:

 <>

 Have fun
 -- Mark

 On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 6:49:49 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> Thanks for this suggestion. The irony is I want to build this 
> "feature" to allow reordering through dragging values in a

[tw5] Re: I love TiddlyWiki because...

different strokes for different folks ☺️

On Sunday, July 8, 2018 at 4:19:28 AM UTC+9, Julio Peña wrote:
>
> Longtime (ocassional) user/lurker here...
>
> I love TiddlyWiki because...
>
> TiddlyWiki proves the old adage that "there's more than one way to skin a 
> cat".
> With TiddlyWiki there can be various solutions to a single problem.
>
> Regards,
>
> Julio
>
> On Monday, March 5, 2018 at 6:41:21 AM UTC-5, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> This thread is a continuation from Positive Assertions In One Sentence 
>> ... 
>> 
>>  
>> Here is a start ...
>>
>> I love #TiddlyWiki  because 
>> ... of, in two words:  Radical #transclusion 
>> .
>>
>> @TiddlyTweeter
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Change the Position of the Save Message

You can style it, it's classed *tc-notification*

Default styling defined in *$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/base* (no need to 
change if you're uncomfortable with overriding shadows tiddlers):
.tc-notification {
position: fixed;
top: 14px;
right: 42px;
}

What you can do, is create a tiddler tagged *$:/tags/Stylesheet* and from 
that tiddler override the positioning ('top', 'left', 'right', 'bottom') 
properties:
.tc-notification {
top: unset;
bottom: 14px;
}
the above CSS will position it to the bottom. 

"Position: fixed;" is already defined in *$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/base* so 
there's no need to redefine that here. Unless you want another kind of 
positioning 

Hope this helps :)

-JD



On Sunday, July 8, 2018 at 1:38:44 PM UTC+9, Adam wrote:
>
> I would like to change the position of the save message that is displayed 
> in the upper right corner, how can I do it?
>

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[tw5] Re: Query: Is TW Male, Female?

I don't want to invite misgivings, but I definitely see TW as genderless... 
Maybe because outside of biological definitions I am finding it hard to 
define what "gender" is... and so, especially in this context. 

I am hard-coded biologically as one of the two, but in so many areas I 
don't fulfill the socially-defined role. And I think TW is like that as 
well. If I'm defining gender to its most base, biological sense... then TW 
has reproductive organs that can't be classified as either male or female, *and 
*it can reproduce on its own. Hermaphroditic asexual reproduction, yeah :) 

While grammatically, I think genders in languages like Panjabi and French, 
belong to unassuming, harmless classification.

Maybe let's drop anything beyond that. Whatever schools of thought envelope 
"gender", I hope won't get applied to TW. 

-JD

On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 10:42:17 PM UTC+9, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Let's wait and see what at least one woman thinks. Unless you are one :-)
>
> JD wrote:
>
>> Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>>>
>>> Well IT is able to reproduce itself, so it might be a hermaphrodite 
>>> (both at the same time). 
>>>
>>  
>
>> Somebody mark this as complete because I think we have a winner  
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: What kind of operations can be performed on parameters passed to a macro?

>From the best selling, yet to be written book, "Everything you wanted to 
know about TiddlyWiki, but had to wash your hair that day":

*"Internally, macros and variables are the same thing. Macros can take a 
parameter, and then use it inside it's definition to put pieces of text 
together. And that's it! Macro's aren't like functions or methods -- they 
can't actually invoke something else (though they may create the illusion 
that they do).*
* In fact, the two main thing's that macro's do is provide a way to bundle 
WikiText together and allow pieces of text to be put together (called 
concatenation). "*

If you need to change case or do any of those other standard operations, I 
suppose you would need to write a javascript macro -- there's no existing 
kit to do it for you. Mostly what you do with it macro parameters is to 
feed it into a list widget, transclusion, or maybe another macro. For 
instance, the macro can be used to concatenate text this way. Like

\define renderme(myfield)
{{!!$myfield$}}
\end
<>

By contrast, if you tried 

<$vars field2="myfield">
{{!!<>}}

It wouldn't work. TW5 would try to find a literal field <> which 
doesn't exist (or shouldn't exist) and not display anything.

I think a lot of people coming to TW5 have some type of familiarity with 
programming, even if not formally. So there's a bunch of things they tend 
to be surprised about when it doesn't work the way they expect. That's why 
it's better to treat the TW5 "Programming Language" (WikiText, widgets,  
and friends) as its own thing, starting with actual tasks you want to 
accomplish.

Have fun!
-- Mark

On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 11:57:47 AM UTC-7, talha131 wrote:

> I get that Macro can be used for presentations. Say, I have a macro
>
> \define example(headingText:"Hello World")
> ! $headingText$
> \end
>
> I can use this macro to create headings, <>. 
>
> Inside this macro, what can I do on headingText variable? For example, 
> can I change its case or can I modify it? Can I remove newlines from it? 
> Can I extract and replace text from it using regex? 
>
> What is possible? 
> 
>

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[tw5] Change the Position of the Save Message

2018-07-07 Thread Adam

I would like to change the position of the save message that is displayed 
in the upper right corner, how can I do it?

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[tw5] Re: Drag field content

Ooh, I am definitely talking about both. 

I've implemented a rather barebones way of editing select fields of a 
tiddler in view mode, in a wiki I use with other people in my work group. 
The reason for needing such implementation being that someone in my group 
doesn't want to interact with any other field other than the Text field, 
and work-related ones. 

I'm looking forward to testing your plugin, and seeing how it could be 
applied to that specific work wiki :D

On Sunday, July 8, 2018 at 10:46:23 AM UTC+9, TonyM wrote:
>
> JD, 
>
> Are you talking about Marks dragon or the edit-fields or both?
>
> The edit-fields is working for me, but I know to make it east to adopt by 
> others it needs a professional layer of documentation (Mohammads Reveal 
> Gradually Macro sets a high standard).
>
> The edit fields allows you define field types, then fields and how to edit 
> them such as dates etc... thus it is a tad more complex to document 
> effectively, just as my previous "initial release" plugin MyMenus was. 
>
> To me it is essential we can can add fields from a list of possible fields 
> to the edit-fields-list and then change the order, when editing fields, 
> this is what I need to complete before it deserves listing.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 10:16:02 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>>
>> Wow this is amazing and very useful! You should create a demo site for 
>> this so it could be listed to the semi-official DynaList ! 
>>
>> Or maybe that can also just link to your post as a permalink?
>>
>> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 2:08:30 PM UTC+9, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Tony,
>>>
>>> Here's a first pass at your original request. Make a global macro:
>>>
>>> \define dragoncopy(copyfield) 
>>> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/fields/$(currentTiddler)$" fieldname=
>>> """$copyfield$""" fieldvalue={{!!$copyfield$}}/>
>>> \end
>>> \define dragonfield(field)
>>> <$draggable tiddler="$:/fields/$(currentTiddler)$" 
>>> startactions=<>> "$field$">>>{{!!$field$}}
>>> \end
>>> \define dragondrop3(tid,fieldname)
>>> <$action-setfield $field="$fieldname$" $value={{$tid$!!fieldvalue}}/>
>>> \end
>>> \define dragondrop2(tid)
>>> <$macrocall $name=dragondrop3 tid="$tid$" fieldname={{$tid$!!fieldname
>>> }}/>
>>> \end
>>> \define dragondrop() 
>>> <$macrocall $name="dragondrop2" tid=<>/>
>>> \end
>>> \define dragonzone(label)
>>> <$droppable actions=<>>$label$
>>> \end
>>>
>>> Invoke the drag object like this:
>>>
>>> <>
>>>
>>> and in another tiddler put the drop zone like this:
>>>
>>> <>
>>>
>>> Have fun
>>> -- Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 6:49:49 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:

 Mark,

 Thanks for this suggestion. The irony is I want to build this "feature" 
 to allow reordering through dragging values in a field, as part of a tool, 
 that allows you to edit-fields in the tiddler view mode, which itself 
 demands this edit-fields from another tiddler approach.

 I am yet to develop a systematic way to do this, and until I do it 
 seems hard to get my head around it. 

 This is in fact the motivation for this edit-fields tools solution, 
 because I am sick of having to wrap my head around bespoke solutions to 
 edit-fields in the current tiddler, which for many is the most likely 
 place 
 they want to edit-fields. 

 This is a gap in TiddlyWiki at the moment I raised a GitHub issue 
 

 I also created a collaborative document in Yammer 
  

 Regards
 TOny

 On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 3:23:25 PM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I think I see how this could work.
>
> In the draggable widget, use a corresponding (probably system tiddler) 
> to hold the value. Use the startactions attribute to assign the field.
>
> <$draggable tiddler="$:/field1" startaction=< into $:/field1!!value>>{{!!field1}}
>
> Then in the droppable widget, use the actions attribute to grab the 
> value from $(actionTiddler)$!!value and save it to the field 
> corresponding 
> to the dropzone. 
>
> If you just want one dropzone that handles multiple fields, then you 
> could have the draggable widget also store the field name in a fieldname 
> field and then the droppable can also fetch the destination from 
> $(actionTiddler)$!!fieldname.
>
> Once you have the draggable macro working, then you can make as many 
> field/zones as you want with <>, <> 
> etc.
>
> Good luck!
> -- Mark
>
> On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 8:35:42 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I am building a button to allow the dragging of values from a fields 
>> values in a tiddler.
>>
>> Looking through all the draggable widgets and use on buttons etc... I 
>> can only see reference to tiddlers, not parts

[tw5] Re: [MuuriTouch] Reloaded

2018-07-07 Thread Dave

Another feature I'd like to request is no justification

I don't know how hard it would be to do, but it would be nice to be able to 
drag a medium sized tiddler into the top middle, and then if there are 
smaller ones that can fit on either side they would.  Unless I'm 
understanding it wrong I think currently it can only either justify left or 
right, but not in the middle.  Or another way of saying it is to be able to 
just drag them to any block of the grid,* or maybe just keep the auto 
justification but have a way to override that and "pin" a tiddler to a 
certain location*, kind of like how the width field starts empty, but then 
gets written to when you change it (so have a location field).

Now that I'm thinking about it, it would also be nice to have a way to *set 
a default tiddler width* instead of having them all start at the smallest 
width.

Thanks for this wonderful plugin!!

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[tw5] Re: [MuuriTouch] Reloaded

2018-07-07 Thread Dave

Just noticed this - Thanks Tony! That definitely looks better

On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 10:59:47 PM UTC-6, TonyM wrote:
>
>
> Dave
>
> add a class statement to your button
>
> eg;
>
> <$button class="tc-btn-invisible tc-tiddlylink" 
>
>- class="tc-btn-invisible tc-tiddlylink" to have a button look like an 
>internal link. 
>- class="tc-btn-invisible" to have a button have no boarder
>
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 10:36:01 AM UTC+10, Dave wrote:
>>
>> I put this
>>
>>
>> <$button>
>> ^
>> <$list variable='Target' filter='[list[$:/StoryList]first[]]'>
>> <$action-navigate $to=<>/>
>> 
>> 
>>
>> in the left menu ( $:/plugins/BTC/tiddly-touch/PageTemplate/LeftBar ) and 
>> that works (but it looks out of place as its a button and the rest are more 
>> esthetically pleasing)
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: What kind of operations can be performed on parameters passed to a macro?

Talha,

Forgive me but you just asked us what can you do with a string? Literally a 
string of characters. Big question, the direct answer is almost anything.

So I am saying your "question is too general in nature", perhaps that is 
the answer you needed?

We are all ready to help but are you reading the existing documentation? 
The following tiddlywiki.com links and searching for widgets helped me 
learn.

https://tiddlywiki.com/#WikiText
https://tiddlywiki.com/#Widgets%20in%20WikiText
https://tiddlywiki.com/#Filter%20Operators

TiddlyWiki Toolmap has now become a substantial resource 
https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM


Also I got a lot of value from;

http://tobibeer.github.io/tw/filters/#Filter%20Examples
https://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#Solutions

A lot if this can be found in the above toolmap or at tiddlywiki.com 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#Community (Visit all tabs and links)
or
https://tiddlywiki.com/#Reference

The point is you will gain more inspiration and knowledge if you follow 
these suggestions, than what we can give in an answer to a very general 
question.

Regards
Tony

On Sunday, July 8, 2018 at 4:57:47 AM UTC+10, talha131 wrote:
>
> I get that Macro can be used for presentations. Say, I have a macro
>
> \define example(headingText:"Hello World")
> ! $headingText$
> \end
>
> I can use this macro to create headings, <>. 
>
> Inside this macro, what can I do on headingText variable? For example, 
> can I change its case or can I modify it? Can I remove newlines from it? 
> Can I extract and replace text from it using regex? 
>
> What is possible? 
> 
>

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[tw5] Re: How to escape angle brackets inside a macro?

Talha,

Forgive me for that omission, Just find any image you load into or find 
already in TiddlyWiki

eg

<$image width="14" source="$:/core/images/copy-clipboard 
"/>

To lookup what a widget is, beginning with a <$ like the above <$image 
search on TiddlyWiki.com for ImageWidget and you will see what it does.

These lists will help you locate images.

!!Custom Images here

<$list filter="[is[image]]">
<$image source={{!!title}} width=48>{{!!title}}




!!Core Images here

<$list filter="[all[tiddlers+shadows]prefix[$:/core/images/]]">
{{!!text}} <$image source={{!!title}} width=48>{{!!title}}


Regards
Tony


On Sunday, July 8, 2018 at 5:51:43 AM UTC+10, talha131 wrote:
>
> Thank you, Tony. That’s very helpful. I am in the process of updating my 
> macro with the help of your example.
>
> Meanwhile, can you please explain this part
>
>
> <$image width="14" source="$:/PSaT/EditFields/Clipboard.png"/>
>
> When I use this source, I get an empty image. My list of shadown tiddlers 
> does not have any $:/PSaT/. I have searched the docs but couldn’t find 
> information on how to link to builtin images in TiddlyWiki.
> 
>

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[tw5] Re: Drag field content

JD, 

Are you talking about Marks dragon or the edit-fields or both?

The edit-fields is working for me, but I know to make it east to adopt by 
others it needs a professional layer of documentation (Mohammads Reveal 
Gradually Macro sets a high standard).

The edit fields allows you define field types, then fields and how to edit 
them such as dates etc... thus it is a tad more complex to document 
effectively, just as my previous "initial release" plugin MyMenus was. 

To me it is essential we can can add fields from a list of possible fields 
to the edit-fields-list and then change the order, when editing fields, 
this is what I need to complete before it deserves listing.

Regards
Tony

On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 10:16:02 PM UTC+10, JD wrote:
>
> Wow this is amazing and very useful! You should create a demo site for 
> this so it could be listed to the semi-official DynaList ! 
>
> Or maybe that can also just link to your post as a permalink?
>
> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 2:08:30 PM UTC+9, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tony,
>>
>> Here's a first pass at your original request. Make a global macro:
>>
>> \define dragoncopy(copyfield) 
>> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/fields/$(currentTiddler)$" fieldname=
>> """$copyfield$""" fieldvalue={{!!$copyfield$}}/>
>> \end
>> \define dragonfield(field)
>> <$draggable tiddler="$:/fields/$(currentTiddler)$" startactions=<> "$field$">>>{{!!$field$}}
>> \end
>> \define dragondrop3(tid,fieldname)
>> <$action-setfield $field="$fieldname$" $value={{$tid$!!fieldvalue}}/>
>> \end
>> \define dragondrop2(tid)
>> <$macrocall $name=dragondrop3 tid="$tid$" fieldname={{$tid$!!fieldname
>> }}/>
>> \end
>> \define dragondrop() 
>> <$macrocall $name="dragondrop2" tid=<>/>
>> \end
>> \define dragonzone(label)
>> <$droppable actions=<>>$label$
>> \end
>>
>> Invoke the drag object like this:
>>
>> <>
>>
>> and in another tiddler put the drop zone like this:
>>
>> <>
>>
>> Have fun
>> -- Mark
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 6:49:49 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>> Thanks for this suggestion. The irony is I want to build this "feature" 
>>> to allow reordering through dragging values in a field, as part of a tool, 
>>> that allows you to edit-fields in the tiddler view mode, which itself 
>>> demands this edit-fields from another tiddler approach.
>>>
>>> I am yet to develop a systematic way to do this, and until I do it seems 
>>> hard to get my head around it. 
>>>
>>> This is in fact the motivation for this edit-fields tools solution, 
>>> because I am sick of having to wrap my head around bespoke solutions to 
>>> edit-fields in the current tiddler, which for many is the most likely place 
>>> they want to edit-fields. 
>>>
>>> This is a gap in TiddlyWiki at the moment I raised a GitHub issue 
>>> 
>>>
>>> I also created a collaborative document in Yammer 
>>>  
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> TOny
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 3:23:25 PM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:

 I think I see how this could work.

 In the draggable widget, use a corresponding (probably system tiddler) 
 to hold the value. Use the startactions attribute to assign the field.

 <$draggable tiddler="$:/field1" startaction=<>>> into $:/field1!!value>>{{!!field1}}

 Then in the droppable widget, use the actions attribute to grab the 
 value from $(actionTiddler)$!!value and save it to the field corresponding 
 to the dropzone. 

 If you just want one dropzone that handles multiple fields, then you 
 could have the draggable widget also store the field name in a fieldname 
 field and then the droppable can also fetch the destination from 
 $(actionTiddler)$!!fieldname.

 Once you have the draggable macro working, then you can make as many 
 field/zones as you want with <>, <> 
 etc.

 Good luck!
 -- Mark

 On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 8:35:42 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> I am building a button to allow the dragging of values from a fields 
> values in a tiddler.
>
> Looking through all the draggable widgets and use on buttons etc... I 
> can only see reference to tiddlers, not parts there of.
>
> Can any one tell me how to specify a fields content as the payload or 
> tell me a direction I could take.
>
>- A tool or code example exists?
>- Clone and rework an existing widget?
>- Use CSS/Html?
>
> I will also be looking to find a way to drop field contents on a field 
> where it erases the existing content to.
>
> I will be turning this into a reusable solution I will share.
>
> Thanks in advance
>


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[tw5] Re: How to fix "Recursive transclusion error in transclude widget" error inside template tiddler

Thank you Mark. 

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[tw5] Re: How to fix "Recursive transclusion error in transclude widget" error inside template tiddler

That's OK. Some of the core templates do the same thing. For instance, 
$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate

Just keep it closed when you don't need to edit it ;-)


-- Mark


On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 2:50:03 PM UTC-7, talha131 wrote:
>
> I have a list of tiddlers with a tag, displayed inside vertical tabs using,
>
> < class:"tc-vertical">>
>
> It is displayed as
>
> I want to be able to jump the transcluded tiddler. *Question 1*, it is 
> possible is a simple way?
>
> I don’t see any option in the transclude widget 
>  that lets you create link to 
> the original tiddler. But tabs macro 
>  has a parameter for template. 
> The same documentation has this example template.
>
> <$tiddler tiddler=<>> <$transclude mode="block" /> 
>
> Using it, I created a template
>
> <$tiddler tiddler=<>>
> <$link to={{!!title}}>
>
> ! {{!!title}}
> 
> <$transclude mode="block" />
>
> and changed the original tiddler to,
>
> < class:"tc-vertical" template="Template">>
>
> With it, I get a heading that links to the original tiddler
>
> but the template tiddler, shows this error
>
> Recursive transclusion error in transclude widget
>
> How do I fix this issue? 
> 
>

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[tw5] Re: Query: Is TW Male, Female?

Jed 

My intent was to explore themes liked you raised. I think they are 
interesting. I don't see the problem.

You will have to tell me the problem because I really can't see it in your 
interesting EXPLORATION.

Best wishes
Josiah

On Saturday, 7 July 2018 21:19:30 UTC+2, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> As enlightening as it is to see people's perceptions of what it means to 
> be 'female'/'female'/'hermaphodite'/'trans', they all come across as 
> prescriptive. If I don't show the 'male' or 'female' qualities described, 
> am I not 'male'/'female'?
>
> If I say that I am female, but I don't fit any of the 'female' qualities 
> described here, am I going to be accepted as female by the group? What 
> about the 'male' ones? If instead I display the 'male' qualities described, 
> am I going to be treated differently than if I display the 'female' 
> qualities?
>
> If I am a male and my name is 'Jackie', am I going to have to spend the 
> entire time wondering how that affects how the others in the group think 
> about me? If the question is important enough to be asked and answered then 
> it certainly seems like it would have some effect.
>
> And then when the question being an uncomfortable one for people is 
> brought up, the response is that the only way something is going to be done 
> about it is if a good enough explanation can be given.
>
> This is not an isolated incident. This happens in every group where 
> something like this comes up. After the 10th or 100th time it seems rather 
> hopeless and there is no reason to actually answer the question because in 
> a month/six month/year/whatever the same thing will come up and the same 
> explanation will be demanded.
>
> So if you are someone whose gender is routinely questioned by people, how 
> much effort should you have to put into making other people actually treat 
> you as a person? Does the responsibility of making a group a friendly and 
> inclusive place fall on the people who lack friendly inclusive places? 
> Should they have to explain every time something happens?
>
> Questions like this also beg similar questions. Is TiddlyWiki NT? ND? If 
> tiddlywiki has a gender, does it have a sexual orientation? Why would any 
> of those questions be any less reasonable to ask than if it has a gender?
>
> If you want an enlightening experience, you should ask if people think 
> that TiddlyWiki is bipolar, and then remember that everything someone says 
> in response is what they think when they hear that I am bipolar. Or 
> dyslexic. And then there will be innumerable reasons why "oh, well it 
> wasn't about you", just somehow the generalisations are about the mythical 
> "bipolar people who aren't present".
>
> These are hardly academic questions, when I saw this question here, I 
> seriously considered just leaving the group. The only reason I am answering 
> you is that you have been nice in the past, and I think that you genuinely 
> don't understand what the question implies. If I had been feeling bad today 
> I would have just left.
>
> The tech community in particular is very bad about things like this, and 
> it is much much easier to just leave a group that has problems than try to 
> explain every time.
>

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[tw5] How to fix "Recursive transclusion error in transclude widget" error inside template tiddler



I have a list of tiddlers with a tag, displayed inside vertical tabs using,

<>

It is displayed as

I want to be able to jump the transcluded tiddler. *Question 1*, it is 
possible is a simple way?

I don’t see any option in the transclude widget 
 that lets you create link to the 
original tiddler. But tabs macro  
has a parameter for template. The same documentation has this example 
template.

<$tiddler tiddler=<>> <$transclude mode="block" /> 

Using it, I created a template

<$tiddler tiddler=<>>
<$link to={{!!title}}>

! {{!!title}}

<$transclude mode="block" />

and changed the original tiddler to,

<>

With it, I get a heading that links to the original tiddler

but the template tiddler, shows this error

Recursive transclusion error in transclude widget

How do I fix this issue? 


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[tw5] Re: Searching for excerpts in a book

2018-07-07 Thread FrD

Hi @Mark, @Diego, @Jed

Thanks a lot for your answers. It confirms what I was suspecting after 
trying Danielo's Context plugin (here 
).
With your help and Danielo's plugin I'm confident I'll get my way.
(Having a bit of context is very useful for my use case).

Regards

FrD

Le samedi 7 juillet 2018 20:02:42 UTC+2, Jed Carty a écrit :
>
> Because this same question has been asked a few times I made a quick 
> tiddler that gives you an exact text search, it is just the solution Mark 
> gave with a very simple interface.
>
> https://www.ooktech.xyz:8443/Public#Exact%20Phrase%20Search
>
> At the moment it only searches the text field, if that is a problem it can 
> be changed.
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Query: Is TW Male, Female?

2018-07-07 Thread Thomas Elmiger

My statement was about a piece of software and about snails, that in
my/Wikipedia‘s perception qualify as hermaphrodites.

If anyone felt offended by this or misinterpreted this as a statement about
my perception of humans I am sorry.

Everyone is welcome here.
-t

> 
>

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[tw5] Re: How to escape angle brackets inside a macro?



Thank you, Tony. That’s very helpful. I am in the process of updating my 
macro with the help of your example.

Meanwhile, can you please explain this part


<$image width="14" source="$:/PSaT/EditFields/Clipboard.png"/>

When I use this source, I get an empty image. My list of shadown tiddlers 
does not have any $:/PSaT/. I have searched the docs but couldn’t find 
information on how to link to builtin images in TiddlyWiki.


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[tw5] Re: Query: Is TW Male, Female?

 passingby wrote:
>
>
> Guys this topic is just a fun topic about finding out a gender of a piece 
> of software. 
>
 
That was my intent. I think it is interesting. It highlights use. 

I never intended someone would get offended. They have my apologies if I 
did wrong.

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[tw5] Re: Query: Is TW Male, Female?

2018-07-07 Thread passingby


Guys this topic is just a fun topic about finding out a gender of a piece 
of software. 

If I don't show the 'male' or 'female' qualities described, am I not 
> 'male'/'female'?
>

I hope this does not imply that TW is actually one of the genders and that 
it may not manifest the gender outwardly and therefore we by branding it a 
gender, are doing injustice to it? 

And if this thread is being interpreted as being in favour or disfavour of 
any gender then this is mistake too, because if anything TW google group is 
by far the most friendliest group I have ever come across. Not even once 
has religion, race, gender or sexual orientation has been topic of conflict 
over here. I have been visiting this group off and on for more than 10 
years I think.

Everybody is welcome here.

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[tw5] Re: Drag field content

Well, this seemed to work out of the box, even on the current tiddler:

<$macrocall $name="list-links-draggable" tiddler=<> />

So maybe the edit rules don't matter when using this macro.

-- Mark

On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 11:10:53 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> Brilliant, that works as desired to drag and drop field contents to and 
> from tiddler, as requested.  I am yet to understand how you have done it.
>
> I love the macros naming *dragon*
>
> Finally I would like to be able drag and drop the order of items in a list 
> field in the current tiddler.
>
> eg the field list or otherfieldname: one two three
>
> Showing as *one* *two* *three*
> and/Or
>  *one*
>  *two*
>  *three*
>
>
> Where I can drag *three* to the first position *three* *one* two and 
> update the field-name.
>
> It is the same question from another viewpoint using drag and drop on a 
> fieldname. Once I can digest your solution I may be able to do this myself, 
> but if you know any tricks please let me know.
>
> *Thanks so much for your assistance, its invaluable.*
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 3:08:30 PM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tony,
>>
>> Here's a first pass at your original request. Make a global macro:
>>
>> \define dragoncopy(copyfield) 
>> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/fields/$(currentTiddler)$" fieldname=
>> """$copyfield$""" fieldvalue={{!!$copyfield$}}/>
>> \end
>> \define dragonfield(field)
>> <$draggable tiddler="$:/fields/$(currentTiddler)$" startactions=<> "$field$">>>{{!!$field$}}
>> \end
>> \define dragondrop3(tid,fieldname)
>> <$action-setfield $field="$fieldname$" $value={{$tid$!!fieldvalue}}/>
>> \end
>> \define dragondrop2(tid)
>> <$macrocall $name=dragondrop3 tid="$tid$" fieldname={{$tid$!!fieldname
>> }}/>
>> \end
>> \define dragondrop() 
>> <$macrocall $name="dragondrop2" tid=<>/>
>> \end
>> \define dragonzone(label)
>> <$droppable actions=<>>$label$
>> \end
>>
>> Invoke the drag object like this:
>>
>> <>
>>
>> and in another tiddler put the drop zone like this:
>>
>> <>
>>
>> Have fun
>> -- Mark
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 6:49:49 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>> Thanks for this suggestion. The irony is I want to build this "feature" 
>>> to allow reordering through dragging values in a field, as part of a tool, 
>>> that allows you to edit-fields in the tiddler view mode, which itself 
>>> demands this edit-fields from another tiddler approach.
>>>
>>> I am yet to develop a systematic way to do this, and until I do it seems 
>>> hard to get my head around it. 
>>>
>>> This is in fact the motivation for this edit-fields tools solution, 
>>> because I am sick of having to wrap my head around bespoke solutions to 
>>> edit-fields in the current tiddler, which for many is the most likely place 
>>> they want to edit-fields. 
>>>
>>> This is a gap in TiddlyWiki at the moment I raised a GitHub issue 
>>> 
>>>
>>> I also created a collaborative document in Yammer 
>>>  
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> TOny
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 3:23:25 PM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:

 I think I see how this could work.

 In the draggable widget, use a corresponding (probably system tiddler) 
 to hold the value. Use the startactions attribute to assign the field.

 <$draggable tiddler="$:/field1" startaction=<>>> into $:/field1!!value>>{{!!field1}}

 Then in the droppable widget, use the actions attribute to grab the 
 value from $(actionTiddler)$!!value and save it to the field corresponding 
 to the dropzone. 

 If you just want one dropzone that handles multiple fields, then you 
 could have the draggable widget also store the field name in a fieldname 
 field and then the droppable can also fetch the destination from 
 $(actionTiddler)$!!fieldname.

 Once you have the draggable macro working, then you can make as many 
 field/zones as you want with <>, <> 
 etc.

 Good luck!
 -- Mark

 On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 8:35:42 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> I am building a button to allow the dragging of values from a fields 
> values in a tiddler.
>
> Looking through all the draggable widgets and use on buttons etc... I 
> can only see reference to tiddlers, not parts there of.
>
> Can any one tell me how to specify a fields content as the payload or 
> tell me a direction I could take.
>
>- A tool or code example exists?
>- Clone and rework an existing widget?
>- Use CSS/Html?
>
> I will also be looking to find a way to drop field contents on a field 
> where it erases the existing content to.
>
> I will be turning this into a reusable solution I will share.
>
> Thanks in advance
>


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[tw5] Re: Query: Is TW Male, Female?

2018-07-07 Thread Jed Carty

As enlightening as it is to see people's perceptions of what it means to be
'female'/'female'/'hermaphodite'/'trans', they all come across as
prescriptive. If I don't show the 'male' or 'female' qualities described,
am I not 'male'/'female'?

If I say that I am female, but I don't fit any of the 'female' qualities
described here, am I going to be accepted as female by the group? What
about the 'male' ones? If instead I display the 'male' qualities described,
am I going to be treated differently than if I display the 'female'
qualities?

If I am a male and my name is 'Jackie', am I going to have to spend the
entire time wondering how that affects how the others in the group think
about me? If the question is important enough to be asked and answered then
it certainly seems like it would have some effect.

And then when the question being an uncomfortable one for people is brought
up, the response is that the only way something is going to be done about
it is if a good enough explanation can be given.

This is not an isolated incident. This happens in every group where
something like this comes up. After the 10th or 100th time it seems rather
hopeless and there is no reason to actually answer the question because in
a month/six month/year/whatever the same thing will come up and the same
explanation will be demanded.

So if you are someone whose gender is routinely questioned by people, how
much effort should you have to put into making other people actually treat
you as a person? Does the responsibility of making a group a friendly and
inclusive place fall on the people who lack friendly inclusive places?
Should they have to explain every time something happens?

Questions like this also beg similar questions. Is TiddlyWiki NT? ND? If
tiddlywiki has a gender, does it have a sexual orientation? Why would any
of those questions be any less reasonable to ask than if it has a gender?

If you want an enlightening experience, you should ask if people think that
TiddlyWiki is bipolar, and then remember that everything someone says in
response is what they think when they hear that I am bipolar. Or dyslexic.
And then there will be innumerable reasons why "oh, well it wasn't about
you", just somehow the generalisations are about the mythical "bipolar
people who aren't present".

These are hardly academic questions, when I saw this question here, I
seriously considered just leaving the group. The only reason I am answering
you is that you have been nice in the past, and I think that you genuinely
don't understand what the question implies. If I had been feeling bad today
I would have just left.

The tech community in particular is very bad about things like this, and it
is much much easier to just leave a group that has problems than try to
explain every time.

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[tw5] Re: I love TiddlyWiki because...

2018-07-07 Thread Julio Peña

Longtime (ocassional) user/lurker here...

I love TiddlyWiki because...

TiddlyWiki proves the old adage that "there's more than one way to skin a 
cat".
With TiddlyWiki there can be various solutions to a single problem.

Regards,

Julio

On Monday, March 5, 2018 at 6:41:21 AM UTC-5, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> This thread is a continuation from Positive Assertions In One Sentence ... 
> 
>  
> Here is a start ...
>
> I love #TiddlyWiki  because 
> ... of, in two words:  Radical #transclusion 
> .
>
> @TiddlyTweeter
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[tw5] Re: CodeMirror Keymap: Vim plugin seems to be causing an error



I also failed to make Vim plugin work. From CodeMirror official site 


Note: The CodeMirror *vim bindings do not have an active maintainer.* That 
means that if you report bugs in it, they are likely to go unanswered. It 
also means that if you want to help, you are very welcome to look at the 
open issues and see which ones you can solve.

But still, it could be an error in TiddlyWiki. Nonetheless, for the time 
being, I have switched to Wasavi  addon on to 
get Vim inside TiddlyWiki editor.


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[tw5] What kind of operations can be performed on parameters passed to a macro?



I get that Macro can be used for presentations. Say, I have a macro

\define example(headingText:"Hello World")
! $headingText$
\end

I can use this macro to create headings, <>. 

Inside this macro, what can I do on headingText variable? For example, can 
I change its case or can I modify it? Can I remove newlines from it? Can I 
extract and replace text from it using regex? 

What is possible? 


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[tw5] A simple Fish shell script to create timed snapshots of TiddlyWiki

Background

I use TiddlyWiki from NodeJs. Here is the official documentation
on it. To
make offline copy, use the command

tiddlywiki mynewwiki --build index

It generates a file index.html in the output folder. When the command is
run again, the index.html is overwritten. I was interested in keeping the
backups intact, like so

index-2018-06-20-1131.html
index-2018-06-30-0040.html
index-2018-07-05-0037.html
index-2018-07-05-1839.html
index-2018-07-06-0154.html

This way, I can have a timeline of my TiddlyWiki backups, enabling me to
restore any particular backup.
Solution

I wrote following shell script.

1. It saves TiddlyWiki to file using build command
2. Appends timestamp to the filename

function tiddlysave
set p /Users/talha/Dropbox/TiddlyNotes/output/
set f index.html

set file "$p""$f"
tiddlywiki ~/Dropbox/TiddlyNotes --verbose --build index

if test -e "$file"
set_color -o red
echo "index.html found"

set append (stat -f "%Sm" -t "%F-%H%M" "$file")
set rootname (echo $f | sed 's/\.[^.]*$//')
set ext (echo $file | sed 's/.*\.//')
set new "$p""$rootname"-"$append"."$ext"

set_color -o yellow
echo "Rename $file → $new"
set_color normal

mv -v "$file" "$new"
endend

Now all I have to do, is to run tiddlysave command from any folder in the
system. I tend to run this command after making any significant change in
TiddlyWiki or trying any new plugin or macro.

I can also setup a cron job to take backups at regular intervals.
Limitations

It runs on Fish Shell and macOS.

Modifying it for bash shouldn’t be difficult at all. Though on Linux, stat
command works differently. Instead of stat -f "%Sm" -t "%F-%H%M" $file you
can use

stat -c %y filename
# or
date -r filename

Why not rely on Dropbox Version support?

Dropbox automatically creates version of files. But with tiddlysave, I am
in control when to take backup.

Hope someone will find it helpful.

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[tw5] Re: Query: Is TW Male, Female?

lol. we are not yet in the real 21st century. *It is coming..*

On Saturday, 7 July 2018 20:14:24 UTC+2, passingby wrote:
>
>
>
> On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 12:05:47 PM UTC-6, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Its a wonderful language. ਮੈਨੂੰ ਸੱਚਮੁੱਚ ਇਸ ਨੂੰ ਪਸੰਦ ਹੈ.
>>
>
>  Nice! It would be ਮੈਨੂੰ ਸੱਚਮੁੱਚ *ਇਹ* (this) ਪਸੰਦ ਹੈ. Google translator 
> is a bit off the mark there, but even so, its nice :-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Query: Is TW Male, Female?

2018-07-07 Thread passingby



On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 12:05:47 PM UTC-6, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Its a wonderful language. ਮੈਨੂੰ ਸੱਚਮੁੱਚ ਇਸ ਨੂੰ ਪਸੰਦ ਹੈ.
>

 Nice! It would be ਮੈਨੂੰ ਸੱਚਮੁੱਚ *ਇਹ* (this) ਪਸੰਦ ਹੈ. Google translator is 
a bit off the mark there, but even so, its nice :-)

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[tw5] Re: Query: Is TW Male, Female?

Its a wonderful language. ਮੈਨੂੰ ਸੱਚਮੁੱਚ ਇਸ ਨੂੰ ਪਸੰਦ ਹੈ.

On Saturday, 7 July 2018 17:30:13 UTC+2, passingby wrote:
>
> For me it is a female, based upon its name, which according to my mother 
> language(panjabi), should be treated as a female because it ends with an / 
> i / sound. It would have been a male for me if it would have ended with an 
> /a/ sound. This is a general rule with some exceptions.
>

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[tw5] Re: Searching for excerpts in a book

2018-07-07 Thread Jed Carty

Because this same question has been asked a few times I made a quick 
tiddler that gives you an exact text search, it is just the solution Mark 
gave with a very simple interface.

https://www.ooktech.xyz:8443/Public#Exact%20Phrase%20Search

At the moment it only searches the text field, if that is a problem it can 
be changed.

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[tw5] Re: Reveal Gradually Macros: Next Revision

2018-07-07 Thread Mohammad

You are most welcome Hans!

Cheers

On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 3:38:54 PM UTC+4:30, HansWobbe wrote:
>
> Mohammad:
>
> This really is nice work.
>
> Thanks for sharing it!
>
> Regards,
> Hans
>
>
> *http://revealgradually.tiddlyspot.com/ 
>> *
>>
>  
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[tw5] Re: Query: Is TW Male, Female?

Ciao Jed

I will happily stop doing stuff like this IF I can grasp the objection.

I really can't see it. If anything your message messes a perfectly fine 
thread with a negative.

But PLEASE explain what is the problem?

On Saturday, 7 July 2018 18:09:25 UTC+2, Jed Carty wrote:
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> I really don't feel like this sort of discussion helps make a welcoming or 
> inclusive community.
>

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[tw5] Re: Searching for excerpts in a book

2018-07-07 Thread Diego Mesa

Hey FrD,

I brought up this to Jeremy not that long ago - regrettably, there is no 
"easy" way to specify an AND search phrase, as opposed to an OR. As Mark 
said, you have to use regexp filtering. 

On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 7:12:12 PM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>
> If you go the advanced search (click on little magnifying glass next to 
> the regular search), and then select the "Filter" tab, you can enter a 
> search like:
>
> [regexp:text[my string of text]]
>
> which should find any tiddlers with "my string of text" in their main text 
> field.
>
> HTH
> -- Mark
>
> On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 8:35:57 AM UTC-7, FrD wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> After having scanned and OCR(ed ?) a (very) small book, I've copied the 
>> chapters in tiddlers. My interest was to be able to find some sentences (or 
>> part of) quickly and to cross reference with other documents (and add my 
>> own notes on the chapters).
>>
>> I'd like to copy a part of a sentence that I know in a search box and 
>> find the exact match. But the results include the tiddlers where sometimes 
>> only one word matches.
>>
>> How can I use the search abilities of TW in order to find "exactly" some 
>> given excerpt ?
>>
>> Thanks for your hints !
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> FrD
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Searching for excerpts in a book

If you go the advanced search (click on little magnifying glass next to the 
regular search), and then select the "Filter" tab, you can enter a search 
like:

[regexp:text[my string of text]]

which should find any tiddlers with "my string of text" in their main text 
field.

HTH
-- Mark

On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 8:35:57 AM UTC-7, FrD wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> After having scanned and OCR(ed ?) a (very) small book, I've copied the 
> chapters in tiddlers. My interest was to be able to find some sentences (or 
> part of) quickly and to cross reference with other documents (and add my 
> own notes on the chapters).
>
> I'd like to copy a part of a sentence that I know in a search box and find 
> the exact match. But the results include the tiddlers where sometimes only 
> one word matches.
>
> How can I use the search abilities of TW in order to find "exactly" some 
> given excerpt ?
>
> Thanks for your hints !
>
> Regards
>
> FrD
>

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[tw5] Re: Query: Is TW Male, Female?

2018-07-07 Thread Jed Carty

I really don't feel like this sort of discussion helps make a welcoming or 
inclusive community.

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[tw5] Searching for excerpts in a book

2018-07-07 Thread FrD

Hi,

After having scanned and OCR(ed ?) a (very) small book, I've copied the 
chapters in tiddlers. My interest was to be able to find some sentences (or 
part of) quickly and to cross reference with other documents (and add my 
own notes on the chapters).

I'd like to copy a part of a sentence that I know in a search box and find 
the exact match. But the results include the tiddlers where sometimes only 
one word matches.

How can I use the search abilities of TW in order to find "exactly" some 
given excerpt ?

Thanks for your hints !

Regards

FrD

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[tw5] Re: Query: Is TW Male, Female?

2018-07-07 Thread passingby

For me it is a female, based upon its name, which according to my mother 
language(panjabi), should be treated as a female because it ends with an / 
i / sound. It would have been a male for me if it would have ended with an 
/a/ sound. This is a general rule with some exceptions.

On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 5:13:45 AM UTC-6, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> English is largely non-gendered for things (a door is neither male nor 
> female); though there are exceptions: Ships are female ("Good luck to all 
> who sail in her!")
>
> I often wonder: is TiddlyWiki male, female, hermaphrodite or trans?
>
> Perhaps Jack the TW cat is Jackie?
>
> I don't think its an entirely mad query. Metaphorical mental models do 
> play a part in conceiving what one works with. 
>

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[tw5] Re: Query: Is TW Male, Female?

Let's wait and see what at least one woman thinks. Unless you are one :-)

JD wrote:

> Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>>
>> Well IT is able to reproduce itself, so it might be a hermaphrodite (both 
>> at the same time). 
>>
>  

> Somebody mark this as complete because I think we have a winner  
>

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[tw5] Re: Query: Is TW Male, Female?



On Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 6:12:13 AM UTC+9, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Well IT is able to reproduce itself, so it might be a hermaphrodite (both 
> at the same time). 
>
>  
>
> Cheers, 
> -t


Somebody mark this as complete because I think we have a winner  

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[tw5] Re: Drag field content

To get good sustained attention a permalink listed in David Gifford's 
TiddlyToolmap  DynaList is 
the best bet.

JD wrote:
>
> Wow this is amazing and very useful! You should create a demo site for 
> this so it could be listed to the semi-official DynaList ! 
>

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[tw5] Re: Drag field content

Wow this is amazing and very useful! You should create a demo site for this 
so it could be listed to the semi-official DynaList ! 

Or maybe that can also just link to your post as a permalink?

On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 2:08:30 PM UTC+9, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> Here's a first pass at your original request. Make a global macro:
>
> \define dragoncopy(copyfield) 
> <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/fields/$(currentTiddler)$" fieldname=
> """$copyfield$""" fieldvalue={{!!$copyfield$}}/>
> \end
> \define dragonfield(field)
> <$draggable tiddler="$:/fields/$(currentTiddler)$" startactions=< "$field$">>>{{!!$field$}}
> \end
> \define dragondrop3(tid,fieldname)
> <$action-setfield $field="$fieldname$" $value={{$tid$!!fieldvalue}}/>
> \end
> \define dragondrop2(tid)
> <$macrocall $name=dragondrop3 tid="$tid$" fieldname={{$tid$!!fieldname}}/>
> \end
> \define dragondrop() 
> <$macrocall $name="dragondrop2" tid=<>/>
> \end
> \define dragonzone(label)
> <$droppable actions=<>>$label$
> \end
>
> Invoke the drag object like this:
>
> <>
>
> and in another tiddler put the drop zone like this:
>
> <>
>
> Have fun
> -- Mark
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 6:49:49 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> Thanks for this suggestion. The irony is I want to build this "feature" 
>> to allow reordering through dragging values in a field, as part of a tool, 
>> that allows you to edit-fields in the tiddler view mode, which itself 
>> demands this edit-fields from another tiddler approach.
>>
>> I am yet to develop a systematic way to do this, and until I do it seems 
>> hard to get my head around it. 
>>
>> This is in fact the motivation for this edit-fields tools solution, 
>> because I am sick of having to wrap my head around bespoke solutions to 
>> edit-fields in the current tiddler, which for many is the most likely place 
>> they want to edit-fields. 
>>
>> This is a gap in TiddlyWiki at the moment I raised a GitHub issue 
>> 
>>
>> I also created a collaborative document in Yammer 
>>  
>>
>> Regards
>> TOny
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 3:23:25 PM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> I think I see how this could work.
>>>
>>> In the draggable widget, use a corresponding (probably system tiddler) 
>>> to hold the value. Use the startactions attribute to assign the field.
>>>
>>> <$draggable tiddler="$:/field1" startaction=<>> into $:/field1!!value>>{{!!field1}}
>>>
>>> Then in the droppable widget, use the actions attribute to grab the 
>>> value from $(actionTiddler)$!!value and save it to the field corresponding 
>>> to the dropzone. 
>>>
>>> If you just want one dropzone that handles multiple fields, then you 
>>> could have the draggable widget also store the field name in a fieldname 
>>> field and then the droppable can also fetch the destination from 
>>> $(actionTiddler)$!!fieldname.
>>>
>>> Once you have the draggable macro working, then you can make as many 
>>> field/zones as you want with <>, <> etc.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>> -- Mark
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 3, 2018 at 8:35:42 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:

 Folks,

 I am building a button to allow the dragging of values from a fields 
 values in a tiddler.

 Looking through all the draggable widgets and use on buttons etc... I 
 can only see reference to tiddlers, not parts there of.

 Can any one tell me how to specify a fields content as the payload or 
 tell me a direction I could take.

- A tool or code example exists?
- Clone and rework an existing widget?
- Use CSS/Html?

 I will also be looking to find a way to drop field contents on a field 
 where it erases the existing content to.

 I will be turning this into a reusable solution I will share.

 Thanks in advance

>>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Node, 5.1.18-prerelease: TypeError: Buffer.alloc is not a function

2018-07-07 Thread Jeremy Ruston

Hi Alex
> I followed the documentation on installing pre-release on node.

OK, the difference here is that the new code is in a different branch, so 
you'll need to download it from this URL, rather than the one in the 
instructions:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/tree/http-server

Best wishes

Jeremy

> 
> I updated node following Jed's recommendation. 
> 
> its working perfectly... 
> 
> The new custom styles are amazing btw
> 
> Alex
> 
> [1] 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Installing%20TiddlyWiki%20Prerelease%20on%20Node.js
> 
>> On 6 July 2018 at 07:24, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
>> Hi Alex
>> 
>> Did you definitely download the new branch, rather than the default master 
>> branch? Check my original post for links
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> Jeremy
>> 
>> --
>> Jeremy Ruston
>> 
>> 
>>> On 6 Jul 2018, at 06:37, Alex Hough  wrote:
>>> 
>>> UPDATE
>>> 
>>> The listen command still doesn't work, server does though. 
>>> 
>>> ast login: Fri Jul  6 06:19:08 on ttys003
>>> users-mbp-2:~ alexhough$ node -v
>>> v8.11.3
>>> users-mbp-2:~ alexhough$ TiddlyWiki --version
>>> 5.1.18-prerelease
>>> users-mbp-2:~ alexhough$ tiddlywiki mynewwiki --listen
>>> Error: Unknown command: listen
>>> users-mbp-2:~ alexhough$ tiddlywiki mynewwiki --server
>>> Serving on 127.0.0.1:8080
>>> 
>>> maybe the docs are ahead of the code in this instance
>>> 
>>> Alex
>>> 
>>> 
 On 5 July 2018 at 12:13, Alex Hough  wrote:
 
 thanks Jed and Tony,
 
 I like using the latest version, and want to help iron out problems.
 
 I'm pretty certain I'm running an old version of node, thanks Jed! 
 
 Alex
 
> On 5 July 2018 at 10:19, Jed Carty  wrote:
> I think there were some changes to the Buffer module but that was a while 
> ago. Are you using an older version of node? You can tell by opening a 
> terminal and typing 'node -v'. If you have a version older than 6 you 
> should probably consider updating.
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