date:20190502

Mark,

I just though I could find the plugin tiddler somewhere. Searching the git 
hub I can see the tiddler, so must I load a node Bob so I can access the 
latest plugin?

Otherwise please send in a private message.

Regards
Tony

On Friday, May 3, 2019 at 1:52:46 PM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I could extract and send it to you, if Jed doesn't mind. The only reason 
> to do it this way is to save band-width. If you can download Bob yourself 
> that of course is best.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Thursday, May 2, 2019 at 7:34:38 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> As I normally use bobexe I have no idea where to find the plugin to drop 
>> into my running bobwin.exe It appears there is not running bob online from 
>> which to extract the plugin as would be the case for more other plugins.
>>
>> Any Guidance would be appreciated. 
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 3:42:09 AM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Was this supposed to fix Tony's problem #1 ? It seems to still be 
>>> happening.
>>>
>>> The documentation says that I need to configure pluginAPI in order to 
>>> add new plugins. But I found just setting the pluginPath was enough to have 
>>> local plugins be added to the selection. That's fine with me, but maybe not 
>>> what you intended? Or maybe "pluginAPI" refers to use over the net, by 
>>> remote (non-Bob) TW files? 
>>>
>>> @Tony -- is the reason that you were sticking with 1.2.2r2 because you 
>>> were on the road? In which case maybe it would be better to just drop-in 
>>> the plugin itself, which is less than 1 Mb.
>>>  
>>> Thanks!
>>> -- Mark
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 1:06:13 AM UTC-7, Jed Carty wrote:

 I updated the executables in the dropbox folder.

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Why do Startup Actions not work?

Mark,

Thanks, Going from button message to action send message, you do need to 
use the $, However I use the below form and it works in a button but not in 
a tiddler tagged startup actions.

<$button>
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-modal" $param="Username Modal"/> 
Action send

Almost all the $:/tags/StartupAction examples use a reveal widget, but even 
putting it within this makes no difference.

I am looking for any method, in the startup actions that can stop the user 
proceeding without taking an action.

Are their any alternatives to modals?


Regards
Tony


On Friday, May 3, 2019 at 2:04:51 PM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>
> This won't fix your problem, but based on the examples it should be $param 
> (with a dollar sign).
>
> I'm thinking that the action widget doesn't work with tm-modal, possibly 
> because the remaining part of the start-up closes out the modal before it 
> even displays. I guess you need a "action-at-end-of-startup" tag. But 
> that's just a guess.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Thursday, May 2, 2019 at 6:28:44 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I have a tiddler tagged $:/tags/StartupAction containing 
>> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-modal" param="Username Modal"/>
>>
>> Can anyone tell me why I am not presented with the popup modal when I 
>> reload the wiki?
>>
>> I would have thought this would work, but it clearly does not.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> Tony
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Why do Startup Actions not work?

2019-05-02 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

This won't fix your problem, but based on the examples it should be $param 
(with a dollar sign).

I'm thinking that the action widget doesn't work with tm-modal, possibly 
because the remaining part of the start-up closes out the modal before it 
even displays. I guess you need a "action-at-end-of-startup" tag. But 
that's just a guess.

-- Mark

On Thursday, May 2, 2019 at 6:28:44 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> I have a tiddler tagged $:/tags/StartupAction containing 
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-modal" param="Username Modal"/>
>
> Can anyone tell me why I am not presented with the popup modal when I 
> reload the wiki?
>
> I would have thought this would work, but it clearly does not.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] BobEXE for testing, version 1.2.3

2019-05-02 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

I could extract and send it to you, if Jed doesn't mind. The only reason to 
do it this way is to save band-width. If you can download Bob yourself that 
of course is best.

-- Mark

On Thursday, May 2, 2019 at 7:34:38 PM UTC-7, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> As I normally use bobexe I have no idea where to find the plugin to drop 
> into my running bobwin.exe It appears there is not running bob online from 
> which to extract the plugin as would be the case for more other plugins.
>
> Any Guidance would be appreciated. 
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 3:42:09 AM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Was this supposed to fix Tony's problem #1 ? It seems to still be 
>> happening.
>>
>> The documentation says that I need to configure pluginAPI in order to add 
>> new plugins. But I found just setting the pluginPath was enough to have 
>> local plugins be added to the selection. That's fine with me, but maybe not 
>> what you intended? Or maybe "pluginAPI" refers to use over the net, by 
>> remote (non-Bob) TW files? 
>>
>> @Tony -- is the reason that you were sticking with 1.2.2r2 because you 
>> were on the road? In which case maybe it would be better to just drop-in 
>> the plugin itself, which is less than 1 Mb.
>>  
>> Thanks!
>> -- Mark
>>
>> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 1:06:13 AM UTC-7, Jed Carty wrote:
>>>
>>> I updated the executables in the dropbox folder.
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] BobEXE for testing, version 1.2.3

Mark,

As I normally use bobexe I have no idea where to find the plugin to drop 
into my running bobwin.exe It appears there is not running bob online from 
which to extract the plugin as would be the case for more other plugins.

Any Guidance would be appreciated. 

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 3:42:09 AM UTC+10, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Was this supposed to fix Tony's problem #1 ? It seems to still be 
> happening.
>
> The documentation says that I need to configure pluginAPI in order to add 
> new plugins. But I found just setting the pluginPath was enough to have 
> local plugins be added to the selection. That's fine with me, but maybe not 
> what you intended? Or maybe "pluginAPI" refers to use over the net, by 
> remote (non-Bob) TW files? 
>
> @Tony -- is the reason that you were sticking with 1.2.2r2 because you 
> were on the road? In which case maybe it would be better to just drop-in 
> the plugin itself, which is less than 1 Mb.
>  
> Thanks!
> -- Mark
>
> On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 1:06:13 AM UTC-7, Jed Carty wrote:
>>
>> I updated the executables in the dropbox folder.
>>
>

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[tw5] Why do Startup Actions not work?

Folks,

I have a tiddler tagged $:/tags/StartupAction containing 
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-modal" param="Username Modal"/>

Can anyone tell me why I am not presented with the popup modal when I 
reload the wiki?

I would have thought this would work, but it clearly does not.

Thanks in advance
Tony

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[tw5] RFI: Force action/selection before proceeding to TiddlyWiki instance

Folks,

I am working on a small module to force the selection of one or more values 
before proceeding into a TiddlyWiki., An example would be insisting on the 
selection/confirmation of the user name $:/status/UserName


   - Has anyone built a method such as a startup action that invokes a 
   modal or any other mechanism to funnel a user through a process before they 
   get interactive access to the wiki?
   - I am also keen to then bypass this barrier if the required details are 
   provided on the URI

Please let me know if you are aware of any prior work or would like to 
collaborate on this. Otherwise I will publish once I have this solution.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: [TOC] Table of Content - refactoring - ... again ;)

Mario,

Thanks these improvements look great. 


   - Can we used the value of the "viewed tiddler" in other operations? 
   like cause a popul if someone is looking at a specific tiddler? I think in 
   someways what you have done is to provide access to the "active/visible 
   tiddler" which new users often confuse with currentTiddler and advanced 
   users would like access to for other reasons.
   - These would be very useful in conjunction with "Repopup, Volant, 
   Mentat". effectively allowing a number of stories to be managed and 
   visible at once on a dashboard.
   - Could I suggest that just as you used the viewTemplate to iterate 
   tiddlers in an internal toc that we also provide the means define and use 
   other templates. When you use the full view template to display the 
   tiddlers within an internal TOC we could also enable an Update template 
   that allows a given tiddler to provide selected editable fields, form like, 
   rather than the classic editor. I think this easier to achieve inside an 
   internal TOC but Ultimately I would like to see this even in the main story 
   river.


Thanks for your work
Tony





On Friday, May 3, 2019 at 1:04:24 AM UTC+10, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi Folks, 
>
> I did just upload a video, that shows some "work in progress" info about 
> the TOC macros . 
>
> There are some visual improvements. 
>
>  - There are some "regression" fixes, that came with the last version
>  - New "Sidebar: Open" behaviour - highlight selected tiddler
>  - New "Sidebar: Contents" behaviour - highlight selected tiddler
>  
> And some conceptual improvements
>
>  - More generic code, that supports "selected tiddler" highlighting
>  - new plugin: "focused-tiddler", that may be included into the core. 
> - It's a plugin atm, since it may interfere with 
> - "dynaview-plugin" and 
> - "TiddlyMaps - HotZone" plugin
>  - Now concept for "tabbed-tocs"
>
> IF you like it, please give an +1 at github 
> 
>
> Feedback is also very welcome here! ;)
>
> ---
>
> And NO, it's not possible to "auto-expand" the tree, with the current 
> structure of the TW TOC. 
>
> and YES, If the toc-structure is clean, it will be possible to implement 
> "auto-expand". -> WIP
>
> have fun!
> mario
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Bob Tips #3 -- Basics for Windows users

Josiah,

Thanks for this very helpful. If you have used other features of Bob on 
Windows could you please share the basic usage on Windows. I am thinking of 
handling shared plugins and files, tiddlers that are stored in one location 
but appear in multiple wikis etc...


Thanks
Tony


On Friday, May 3, 2019 at 1:02:16 AM UTC+10, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Jed's BobEXE is immensely rich. Its possible usage is vast. I think there 
> is room for secondary utility notes like these.
>
> *If I know they are helpful I'll happily make a more permanent website for 
> them. *
>
> I also think its useful for Jed to see as he doesn't use Windows much, but 
> its all I use ...
>
> So here are my revised tips based on the more recent releases of Bob. Most 
> relate to configuration.
>
> Best, Josiah
>
>
> --
> Read this to get an overview of Bob setup! (read in Bob)
>
> $:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/Configuration gives basic details on settings that 
> is very helpful to understand the richness & flexibility of Bob.
>
>
> It is very helpful to refer to.
>
>
> --
> Ensure Bob is portable (use in Bob)
>
> $:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/ManualSettingsTab change the default path to the 
> Bob executable from the absolute to the relative "wikiPathBase": ".",
>
>
> Portability for Bob is *excellent*. Just make sure you only enter 
> relative paths.
>
>
> --
> How to launch Bob from the PortableApps platform
>
> *Simple*: Just install BobWin.exe in a directory under PortableApps. The 
> only issue with this is that your wikis will be inside the executable area 
> of PortableApps.
>
>
> *Sophisticated*: If you want to launch Bob from PortableApps but locate 
> it outside it, so your wikis are not inside the executables area of PA, 
> then you can do so by compiling a batch file to launch it. 
>
>
> PortableApps don't see batch files as executable so you need to create a 
> batch file and compile it. 
>
>
> A good Windows batch file compiler is: Bat to Exe 
> .
>
>
> Once you have a compiled batch file for launching Bob then simply place it 
> in a PortableApps program directory and it will appear (on refresh) as a 
> menu option.
>
>
> *The next item gives an example batch file for launching Bob.*
>
>
> --
> How to launch Bob from a batch file and why?
>
> Below is a bob.bat batch file is an example of how to launch Bob within a 
> command processor. 
>
>
> The advantage is that IF Bob exits without warning it can return any 
> closing error message that the parent command processor can display that 
> otherwise would be lost.
>
>
> The paths in this example Windows batch file are *relative*.
>
>
> ::[see https://ss64.com/nt/cmd.html for batch file options] 
> @echo off 
> color 0E 
> mode con: cols=150 
> echo:
> echo --- Change to Bob's directory from PortableApps --- 
> cd ..\..\..\tw5\bob\ 
> cd 
> echo:
> echo --- Launch BobEXE - 
> title BobEXE: TiddlyWiki Server 
> cmd /K "BobWin.exe"
>
> --
> Pathing & Bob scripts
>
>
> "Scripts" in Bob provide a gateway to the OS ... Defined under: 'Bob 
> Settings > Manual Settings > "scripts"' in the MAIN wiki. These are usable 
> from any Wiki run by Bob... For example, in a wiki you launch a "script" 
> via...
>
>
> <$action-websocketmessage $type=runScript name=x opt1=yy opt2=zz  
> />
>
> The "runScript" action is executed always *in the directory where the Bob 
> executable is* (WBEI). This means that relative pathing to a program you 
> are invoking is always reliably relative to WBEI.
>
>
> NOTE: *Something you need to notice is that the program invoked may run 
> itself in WBEI. But it may NOT. It depends on the program. Some Windows 
> programs will only execute in their home directories, not in WBEI. **What 
> is the significance? It means if you are using relative addressing, if you 
> pass parameters on "files to use" to the program, the path to them needs to 
> vary according to whether they run in WBEI or from their home directory.*
>
>
> --
> Relative paths & Bob's "buildHTMLWiki"
>
>
> Its worth noting that ...
>
>
> <$action-websocketmessage $type='buildHTMLWiki' outputFolder=<> 
> outputName=<> excludeList=<> />
>
> ... the "outputFolder" is created through an address "*Relative to the 
> Wiki*" being built, NOT relative to the executable that runs Bob.
>
>
> --
> The benefit of the "suppressBrowser" setting 
>
> Lets say you have five TW created in Bob ... But you only work with them 
> in Firefox–even though your default browser is Chrome. 
>
>
> Its easy to set up so Chrome won't get in the way.
>
>
> In FF open all the Bob TW you want to use. Set it to "Open last session on 
> startup". If you initiate Bob first, before the FF browser starts, FF will 
> load them on start.
>
>
> Once you can see it works add this

Re: [tw5] Re: Save directly Tiddlywiki 5 file to GitHub

2019-05-02 Thread cameronsajedi

Hi Jeremy,
  Thanks for reading my comment. I am actually using Chrome, and when I 
follow along with the intended workflow it removes my github auth token and 
also the save feature just downloads index.html in-browser. If you follow 
my link or look at the attached image you can also see that all the styling 
and formatting is messed up, I'm using empty.html downloaded from 
prerelease as the basis and no nonstandard tiddlers are added. I understand 
this is prerelease so I am not depending on it I was just excited to use 
tiddlywiki in a  new way. I'm willing to provide more debugging 
information, but I am a bit of a novice so I don't know where to start.

[image: Capture.PNG]



On Thursday, May 2, 2019 at 4:10:30 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Cameron
>
> Firstly, are you using Firefox? I think it doesn’t support XMLHttpRequests 
> from files loaded from a file:// URI. I used Chrome in most of my testing.
>
> The intended workflow is to load the wiki via the 
> https://username.github.io/index.html URI, and then save changes directly 
> back to GitHub. The challenge is that GitHub pages doesn’t update 
> instantly, it takes a few minutes for a pushed HTML file to be accessible. 
> So, care has to be taken not to reload the wiki from GitHub pages before 
> the changes have been processed. To be cautious, one might want to check 
> the wiki in a separate tab to see when it has refreshed.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
> On 2 May 2019, at 20:54, camero...@gmail.com  wrote:
>
> Hi, 
>
> I've been trying to get this working but I feel that I am missing 
> something. i can get my repository to host to github pages but when I use 
> my local browser to open the tiddlywiki (index.html) I've got in the git 
> repo I then cannot save it. Is the workflow (once it works) to navigate to 
> the file on your hard drive, make edits, save it then git commit, push, 
> etc? Every time I try to make modifications they are either not saved 
> because I used the hosted tiddlywiki at github.io to try to make changes 
> or I get a n XHMLHttpRequest error code: 409 if I try to edit the on-disk 
> index.html in my browser and use the tiddlywiki save function. I note that 
> I do have an earlier version of this index.html file being served in my 
> github pages. What could I be missing?
>
> On Thursday, April 4, 2019 at 7:20:36 AM UTC-4, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Referring to: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/3890
>>
>> And the nice https://github.com/38911BytesFree/TiddlyWiki
>>
>> To save Tiddlywiki directly to GitHub Pages, is it possible to 
>>
>>
>>1. Have GitHub Saver plugin? or
>>2. Update the current classic TW to TW5?
>>
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
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[tw5] Re: Three questions about BOB

Hi Josiah.

Thanks for the explanation.
I'll take a look at the document you've indicated, I can still learn 
something from there.

My best wishes. 

El jueves, 2 de mayo de 2019, 23:41:53 (UTC+2), @TiddlyTweeter escribió:
>
> Ciao Xabriña 
>
> Hello TiddlyTweeter.
>>
>> Thank you for your answer, but I'm afraid my computer skills are far from 
>> allowing me to use scripts to do those things ... 
>>
>
> I meant scripts via Bob itself which is not too difficult. I should have 
> made that clearer! 
>
> Basically in Bob "scripts" are a way to send a command to the operating 
> system. In your case something pretty simple like "copy files from 
> directory A to directory B". In Bob the way to use them is documented 
> briefly at ... "$:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/Running Scripts Using Websocket 
> Messages". 
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>

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[tw5] Re: Three questions about BOB

Hi Jed.

I'm glad that some of my questions seem interesting to you.

Regarding the first question, the problem I see is if I want to export a 
particular wiki that has associated files (images, music or video) that 
only exports in the "./files" folder the documents that are associated with 
that wiki and not all others. Or if I want to export a tiddler in 
particular that I export the file ".html" plus a folder associated with the 
files that this tiddler has referenced.
I want to clarify that I use a folder "./files" common for all wikis.

On the other hand I want to thank you for having made a tool as good as Bob.

Best regards

El jueves, 2 de mayo de 2019, 20:49:33 (UTC+2), inmy...@gmail.com escribió:
>
> I believe that for the moment the answer to all of these is mostly no, but 
> they are all good things I will add to the list of feature requests.
>
> 1 - There is a new option to move media files embedded in the wiki into 
> the /files folder inside the wiki folder, but it doesn't have any affect on 
> other embedded files.
> 2 - No, I will add this. It is a good idea.
> 3 - I don't think that there is currently a way to do this. It should be 
> simple to add one to Bob, I am not certain about other ways to use 
> tiddlywiki.
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[tw5] Re: Three questions about BOB

Ciao Xabriña 

Hello TiddlyTweeter.
>
> Thank you for your answer, but I'm afraid my computer skills are far from 
> allowing me to use scripts to do those things ... 
>

I meant scripts via Bob itself which is not too difficult. I should have 
made that clearer! 

Basically in Bob "scripts" are a way to send a command to the operating 
system. In your case something pretty simple like "copy files from 
directory A to directory B". In Bob the way to use them is documented 
briefly at ... "$:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/Running Scripts Using Websocket 
Messages". 

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw5] Re: Three questions about BOB

Hello TiddlyTweeter.

Thank you for your answer, but I'm afraid my computer skills are far from 
allowing me to use scripts to do those things ...

Best regards

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[tw5] Re: RFC TiddlyWiki Bookcase - A new server/saver/manager for TiddlyWikis

2019-05-02 Thread weaver . devin

Yes, this is like TiddlyServer but when I looked into it I realized 
TiddlyServer was way more complicated then I wanted it to be. In my version 
the command-line closely matches the same well understood patterns you are 
used to when running TiddlyWiki on its own on the command-line. I wanted 
the experience to be the same. This also ahas far less features at the 
moment and is designed to be for those who know enough about tiddlywiki to 
want a launcher like system but don't want to really learn a large system 
like TiddlyServer. I think of this as TiddlyWiki: beginner, TW-Bookcase: 
intermediate, TiddlyServer: advanced

I updated the readme on github.

On Thursday, May 2, 2019 at 4:12:41 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>
> This seems similar to TiddlyServer or Bob, which also consolidate on one 
> port. Being able to install it through npm could be very handy.
>
> The "How to use" link didn't seem to go anywhere. 
>
> There is an anomalous  link to "GutHub".
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Thursday, May 2, 2019 at 9:51:18 AM UTC-7, weave...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Request For Comment
>>
>> I wrote a Node.JS server which manages a set of Node.JS based TiddlyWiki 
>> folders. Ut proxies the requests to the TiddlyWiki instance through Unix 
>> Sockets so that there is only one internet port in use. It can create new 
>> Wikis or import existing ones. It uses a TiddlyWiki as the front end 
>> framework. This is essentially a TiddlyDesktop like system for serving 
>> Node.JS versions of many TiddlyWikis.
>>
>> I designed the command-line to follow the same conventions that the 
>> tiddlywiki command-line uses. It is available as a global NPM package.
>>
>> I was hoping to get some feedback / testers before I submitted it to the 
>> TiddlyWiki.com documentation.
>>
>>
>>- Source - https://github.com/sukima/tw-bookcase
>>- NPM Listing - https://www.npmjs.com/package/tw-bookcase
>>
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[tw5] Re: RFC TiddlyWiki Bookcase - A new server/saver/manager for TiddlyWikis

2019-05-02 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

This seems similar to TiddlyServer or Bob, which also consolidate on one 
port. Being able to install it through npm could be very handy.

The "How to use" link didn't seem to go anywhere. 

There is an anomalous  link to "GutHub".

Thanks!

On Thursday, May 2, 2019 at 9:51:18 AM UTC-7, weave...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Request For Comment
>
> I wrote a Node.JS server which manages a set of Node.JS based TiddlyWiki 
> folders. Ut proxies the requests to the TiddlyWiki instance through Unix 
> Sockets so that there is only one internet port in use. It can create new 
> Wikis or import existing ones. It uses a TiddlyWiki as the front end 
> framework. This is essentially a TiddlyDesktop like system for serving 
> Node.JS versions of many TiddlyWikis.
>
> I designed the command-line to follow the same conventions that the 
> tiddlywiki command-line uses. It is available as a global NPM package.
>
> I was hoping to get some feedback / testers before I submitted it to the 
> TiddlyWiki.com documentation.
>
>
>- Source - https://github.com/sukima/tw-bookcase
>- NPM Listing - https://www.npmjs.com/package/tw-bookcase
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Save directly Tiddlywiki 5 file to GitHub

2019-05-02 Thread Jeremy Ruston

Hi Cameron

Firstly, are you using Firefox? I think it doesn’t support XMLHttpRequests from 
files loaded from a file:// URI. I used Chrome in most of my testing.

The intended workflow is to load the wiki via the 
https://username.github.io/index.html  
URI, and then save changes directly back to GitHub. The challenge is that 
GitHub pages doesn’t update instantly, it takes a few minutes for a pushed HTML 
file to be accessible. So, care has to be taken not to reload the wiki from 
GitHub pages before the changes have been processed. To be cautious, one might 
want to check the wiki in a separate tab to see when it has refreshed.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

> On 2 May 2019, at 20:54, cameronsaj...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> I've been trying to get this working but I feel that I am missing something. 
> i can get my repository to host to github pages but when I use my local 
> browser to open the tiddlywiki (index.html) I've got in the git repo I then 
> cannot save it. Is the workflow (once it works) to navigate to the file on 
> your hard drive, make edits, save it then git commit, push, etc? Every time I 
> try to make modifications they are either not saved because I used the hosted 
> tiddlywiki at github.io  to try to make changes or I get a 
> n XHMLHttpRequest error code: 409 if I try to edit the on-disk index.html in 
> my browser and use the tiddlywiki save function. I note that I do have an 
> earlier version of this index.html file being served in my github pages. What 
> could I be missing?
> 
> On Thursday, April 4, 2019 at 7:20:36 AM UTC-4, Mohammad wrote:
> Referring to: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/3890 
> 
> 
> And the nice https://github.com/38911BytesFree/TiddlyWiki 
> 
> 
> To save Tiddlywiki directly to GitHub Pages, is it possible to 
> 
> Have GitHub Saver plugin? or
> Update the current classic TW to TW5?
> 
> --Mohammad
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[tw5] Re: Save directly Tiddlywiki 5 file to GitHub

2019-05-02 Thread cameronsajedi

Hi, 

I've been trying to get this working but I feel that I am missing 
something. i can get my repository to host to github pages but when I use 
my local browser to open the tiddlywiki (index.html) I've got in the git 
repo I then cannot save it. Is the workflow (once it works) to navigate to 
the file on your hard drive, make edits, save it then git commit, push, 
etc? Every time I try to make modifications they are either not saved 
because I used the hosted tiddlywiki at github.io to try to make changes or 
I get a n XHMLHttpRequest error code: 409 if I try to edit the on-disk 
index.html in my browser and use the tiddlywiki save function. I note that 
I do have an earlier version of this index.html file being served in my 
github pages. What could I be missing?

On Thursday, April 4, 2019 at 7:20:36 AM UTC-4, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Referring to: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/3890
>
> And the nice https://github.com/38911BytesFree/TiddlyWiki
>
> To save Tiddlywiki directly to GitHub Pages, is it possible to 
>
>
>1. Have GitHub Saver plugin? or
>2. Update the current classic TW to TW5?
>
>
> --Mohammad
>
>

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[tw5] Is there a tag umask for tiddlers?

2019-05-02 Thread leeand00

In linux you can set a umask if you want all of the files created by you to 
have certain permissions.

Is it possible to have a umask for tiddlers (and change it now and again) 
so you don't have to re-tag everything all the time?

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[tw5] Re: Is there a tag umask for tiddlers?

2019-05-02 Thread leeand00

Just set the tag-umask once and start making tiddlers, if the one you're 
creating doesn't match, then you can change the umask and all the tiddlers 
you create after that will have those tags.

On Thursday, 2 May 2019 15:46:49 UTC-4, leeand00 wrote:
>
> In linux you can set a umask if you want all of the files created by you 
> to have certain permissions.
>
> Is it possible to have a umask for tiddlers (and change it now and again) 
> so you don't have to re-tag everything all the time?
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[tw5] Re: Three questions about BOB

2019-05-02 Thread inmysocks

I believe that for the moment the answer to all of these is mostly no, but 
they are all good things I will add to the list of feature requests.

1 - There is a new option to move media files embedded in the wiki into the 
/files folder inside the wiki folder, but it doesn't have any affect on 
other embedded files.
2 - No, I will add this. It is a good idea.
3 - I don't think that there is currently a way to do this. It should be 
simple to add one to Bob, I am not certain about other ways to use 
tiddlywiki.

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[tw5] Re: RFC TiddlyWiki Bookcase - A new server/saver/manager for TiddlyWikis

2019-05-02 Thread cameronsajedi

I haven't tried it yet but from glancing at the repo I've got to say this 
is awesome! Great work, I've been trying to find a way to use multiple 
tiddlywiki's in a static site knowledge repository and this is probably 
perfect for that. I'll comment more as I get into that project down the 
road!

On Thursday, May 2, 2019 at 12:51:18 PM UTC-4, weave...@gmail.com wrote:
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> Request For Comment
>
> I wrote a Node.JS server which manages a set of Node.JS based TiddlyWiki 
> folders. Ut proxies the requests to the TiddlyWiki instance through Unix 
> Sockets so that there is only one internet port in use. It can create new 
> Wikis or import existing ones. It uses a TiddlyWiki as the front end 
> framework. This is essentially a TiddlyDesktop like system for serving 
> Node.JS versions of many TiddlyWikis.
>
> I designed the command-line to follow the same conventions that the 
> tiddlywiki command-line uses. It is available as a global NPM package.
>
> I was hoping to get some feedback / testers before I submitted it to the 
> TiddlyWiki.com documentation.
>
>
>- Source - https://github.com/sukima/tw-bookcase
>- NPM Listing - https://www.npmjs.com/package/tw-bookcase
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[tw5] [TW5] Number Formatting

2019-05-02 Thread Chris

I have been doing a search in this group's discussions but have lucked out.

I was looking for way to format output of numbers that would add for 
instance commas to long numbers ( ex. 100 to 1,000,000 ). Just 
something K.I.S.S. I know there are javascripts that fit the bill nicely 
but my scripting knowledge is limited to say the least. 

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[tw5] Re: Bob Tips #3 -- Basics for Windows users

2019-05-02 Thread Ste Wilson

Wow! All good stuff! 

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[tw5] RFC TiddlyWiki Bookcase - A new server/saver/manager for TiddlyWikis

2019-05-02 Thread weaver . devin

Request For Comment

I wrote a Node.JS server which manages a set of Node.JS based TiddlyWiki 
folders. Ut proxies the requests to the TiddlyWiki instance through Unix 
Sockets so that there is only one internet port in use. It can create new 
Wikis or import existing ones. It uses a TiddlyWiki as the front end 
framework. This is essentially a TiddlyDesktop like system for serving 
Node.JS versions of many TiddlyWikis.

I designed the command-line to follow the same conventions that the 
tiddlywiki command-line uses. It is available as a global NPM package.

I was hoping to get some feedback / testers before I submitted it to the 
TiddlyWiki.com documentation.


   - Source - https://github.com/sukima/tw-bookcase
   - NPM Listing - https://www.npmjs.com/package/tw-bookcase
   

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[tw5] Re: Three questions about BOB

Xabriña wrote:
>
>
> 1- When exporting a wiki or a series of tiddlers, is it possible to export 
> it with its associated files in a separate folder?
>

I don't think so. 

*BUT you could use Bob Scripting to do so. *

Best wishes
TiddlyTweeter

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[tw5] Re: How to upload / import my local wiki to tiddlyspot?

2019-05-02 Thread Daniel Danilenko

I ran into the same problem, but fixed it.
I use Chrome on Linux and Mac and my (new and empty) TW5 just refused to 
save to TiddlySpot, downloading instead. 

*The fix:* I've installed TiddlyDesktop and launched my TW5 file in it 
(just *once*). Filled out the form at Control Panel \ Saving \ TiddlySpot 
Saver and saved my wiki (just *once*). It have uploaded!

>From there on saving that uploaded TW worked fine from anywhere

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[tw5] Re: [TOC] Table of Content - refactoring - ... again ;)

2019-05-02 Thread PMario

Uuups,

Zip file can be found here: 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/3627#issuecomment-488696527

-mario

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[tw5] [TOC] Table of Content - refactoring - ... again ;)

2019-05-02 Thread PMario

Hi Folks,

I did just upload a video, that shows some "work in progress" info about
the TOC macros .

There are some visual improvements.

- There are some "regression" fixes, that came with the last version
- New "Sidebar: Open" behaviour - highlight selected tiddler
- New "Sidebar: Contents" behaviour - highlight selected tiddler

And some conceptual improvements

- More generic code, that supports "selected tiddler" highlighting
- new plugin: "focused-tiddler", that may be included into the core.
- It's a plugin atm, since it may interfere with
- "dynaview-plugin" and
- "TiddlyMaps - HotZone" plugin
- Now concept for "tabbed-tocs"

IF you like it, please give an +1 at github

Feedback is also very welcome here! ;)

---

And NO, it's not possible to "auto-expand" the tree, with the current
structure of the TW TOC.

and YES, If the toc-structure is clean, it will be possible to implement
"auto-expand". -> WIP

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Re: Bob Tips #3 -- Basics for Windows users

Repeat for email users.

On Thursday, 2 May 2019 17:02:16 UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Jed's BobEXE is immensely rich. Its possible usage is vast. I think there 
> is room for secondary utility notes like these.
>
> *If I know they are helpful I'll happily make a more permanent website for 
> them. *
>
> I also think its useful for Jed to see as he doesn't use Windows much, but 
> its all I use ...
>
> So here are my revised tips based on the more recent releases of Bob. Most 
> relate to configuration.
>
> Best, Josiah
>
>
> --
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>
> $:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/Configuration gives basic details on settings that 
> is very helpful to understand the richness & flexibility of Bob.
>
>
> It is very helpful to refer to.
>
>
> --
> Ensure Bob is portable ()
>
> $:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/ManualSettingsTab change the default path to the 
> Bob executable from the absolute to the relative "wikiPathBase": ".",
>
>
> Portability for Bob is *excellent*. Just make sure you only enter 
> relative paths.
>
>
> --
> How to launch Bob from the PortableApps platform
>
> *Simple*: Just install BobWin.exe in a directory under PortableApps. The 
> only issue with this is that your wikis will be inside the executable area 
> of PortableApps.
>
>
> *Sophisticated*: If you want to launch Bob from PortableApps but locate 
> it outside it, so your wikis are not inside the executables area of PA, 
> then you can do so by compiling a batch file to launch it. 
>
>
> PortableApps don't see batch files as executable so you need to create a 
> batch file and compile it. 
>
>
> A good Windows batch file compiler is: Bat to Exe 
> .
>
>
> Once you have a compiled batch file for launching Bob then simply place it 
> in a PortableApps program directory and it will appear (on refresh) as a 
> menu option.
>
>
> *The next item gives an example batch file for launching Bob.*
>
>
> --
> How to launch Bob from a batch file and why?
>
> Below is a bob.bat batch file is an example of how to launch Bob within a 
> command processor. 
>
>
> The advantage is that IF Bob exits without warning it can return any 
> closing error message that the parent command processor can display that 
> otherwise would be lost.
>
>
> The paths in this example Windows batch file are *relative*.
>
>
> ::[see https://ss64.com/nt/cmd.html for batch file options] 
> @echo off 
> color 0E 
> mode con: cols=150 
> echo:echo --- Change to Bob's directory from PortableApps --- 
> cd ..\..\..\tw5\bob\ 
> cd 
> echo: 
> echo --- Launch BobEXE - 
> title BobEXE: TiddlyWiki Server 
> cmd /K "BobWin.exe"
>
> --
> Pathing & Bob scripts
>
>
> "Scripts" in Bob provide a gateway to the OS ... Defined under: 'Bob 
> Settings > Manual Settings > "scripts"' in the MAIN wiki. These are usable 
> from any Wiki run by Bob... For example, in a wiki you launch a "script" 
> via...
>
>
> <$action-websocketmessage $type=runScript name=x opt1=yy opt2=zz  
> />
>
> The "runScript" action is executed always *in the directory where the Bob 
> executable is* (WBEI). This means that relative pathing to a program you 
> are invoking is always reliably relative to WBEI.
>
>
> NOTE: *Something you need to notice is that the program invoked may run 
> itself in WBEI. But it may NOT. It depends on the program. Some Windows 
> programs will only execute in their home directories, not in WBEI. **What 
> is the significance? It means if you are using relative addressing, if you 
> pass parameters on "files to use" to the program, the path to them needs to 
> vary according to whether they run in WBEI or from their home directory.*
>
>
> --
> Relative paths & Bob's "buildHTMLWiki"
>
>
> Its worth noting that ...
>
>
> <$action-websocketmessage $type='buildHTMLWiki' outputFolder=<> 
> outputName=<> excludeList=<> />
>
> ... the "outputFolder" is created through an address "*Relative to the 
> Wiki*" being built, NOT relative to the executable that runs Bob.
>
>
> --
> The benefit of the "suppressBrowser" setting 
>
> Lets say you have five TW created in Bob ... But you only work with them 
> in Firefox–even though your default browser is Chrome. 
>
>
> Its easy to set up so Chrome won't get in the way.
>
>
> In FF open all the Bob TW you want to use. Set it to "Open last session on 
> startup". If you initiate Bob first, before the FF browser starts, FF will 
> load them on start.
>
>
> Once you can see it works add this to Bob settings ... "suppressBrowser": 
> "true".
>
>
> 
>
>
> Any comments to improve these notes would be appreciated.
>

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[tw5] Play several songs consecutively

Hi all.

I do not know if this is possible that I comment, but I raise it as a 
possibility.
I have a couple of songs, mostly in .midi format, which I like to play once 
in a while, when I'm doing things with Tiddlywiki. To play a file I have no 
problems, but, it would be possible to reproduce several files one after 
the other ???

The way I have to play music is this:

 

Thanks in advance.

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[tw5] Three questions about BOB


Hi all.

I have three questions about the BOB program.

1- When exporting a wiki or a series of tiddlers, is it possible to export 
it with its associated files in a separate folder?

2-It would be possible to see inside a wiki managed by BOB the files that 
we have in the folder "/ files" to be able to use them when we need them 
without having to copy and paste their name? As with the images that are 
incorporated into the wiki ...

3-The latter is not whether it is a problem of BOB or Tiddlywiki. How can I 
do so that every time I start a wiki I do not have to walk by putting the 
user name to appear in the tiddlers that I create?

Thanks in advance.

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] BobEXE for testing, version 1.2.3

Ciao Jed

BobEXE: TiddlyWiki version 5.1.19 with Bob version 1.2.3
> Windows 10 64bit, tablet. Latest Firefox & Chrome.


*Delete of wiki can crash Bob  ...*

-- At $:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/DeleteWikis


-- Delete an existing wiki


-- Result: the wiki on-disk *is* correctly deleted, though not reported in 
the Console. And Bob often crashes ... with a message like this ...



events.js:167
  throw er; // Unhandled 'error' event
  ^

Error: EPERM: operation not permitted, watch
at FSEvent.FSWatcher._handle.onchange (fs.js:1372:28)
Emitted 'error' event at:
at FSEvent.FSWatcher._handle.onchange (fs.js:1378:12)


-- FYI, I thought, maybe, it was a permissions issue so ran Bob as a 
Windows "administrator". Made no difference.


Best wishes
Josiah 

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] BobEXE for testing, version 1.2.3

Ciao Jed

BobEXE: TiddlyWiki version 5.1.19 with Bob version 1.2.3
> Windows 10 64bit, tablet. Latest Firefox & Chrome.


*Excess alert messages appear on all wiki ...*

-- Go to: $:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/ManageWikis


-- Create, Rename or Delete a wiki ...


-- Result: works correctly.


Issue is that *every wiki running gets the alert messages* like this image 
shows, even though its already been cleared on the wiki that did the action.

[image: Annotation 2019-05-02 130004.jpg]


So, even if you "Clear Alerts" in the wiki you launched the change from all 
other wikis carry the messages until you manually click to clear them. 

Its in no way a serious problem as the correct job was done. But its 
somewhat confusing.

Hope this is clear!

Best wishes
Josiah

 

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[tw5] Re: AWS Amazon web services and TiddlyWiki

2019-05-02 Thread linsteina

Thumb up! 

On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 10:35:27 PM UTC+12, inmy...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> We make custom electronics and software for whatever we find interesting. 
> Things like custom robots and web-interfaces.
> We use tiddlywiki to document our projects, most of the federation and 
> remote syncing work I am doing is to help us work together because we are 
> spread out around the world.
>
> I also use it to keep track of my phd work.
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] BobEXE for testing, version 1.2.3