[tw5] Re: Transclusion through template --- preserve wikitex formatting

[Sandip Deshmukh]

Hello Soren,

Yes. I have gone through Grok TiddlyWiki. What an excellent reference it is.

Much of my confidence in tweaking TiddlyWiki comes from reading that book/ 
wiki.


On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 9:25:51 PM UTC+5:30 Soren Bjornstad wrote:

> For background on what's going on here, see Block Mode and Inline Mode 
>  in 
> *Grok 
> TiddlyWiki.*
>
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 4:16:21 AM UTC-5 Sandip Deshmukh wrote:
>
>> Thanks. That worked perfectly.
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 12:04:46 PM UTC+5:30 Eric Shulman wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 25, 2021 at 10:39:54 PM UTC-7 Sandip Deshmukh wrote:
>>>
 My `ContactInformation'  tiddler contains:
 <$list filter="[contains:participants!sort[on]]">
   <$link />
   {{!!text}}
  

>>> The wikitex formatting in 'KG More1' is lost when transcluded.

>>> How do I ensure that it is preserved?

>>>
>>> replace {{!!text}} with <$transclude mode="block"/>
>>>
>>> enjoy,
>>> -e
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] tw5-primer v1.0.1 is here!

[Télumire]

This is much more readable, nice !

By the way, I've found a great example of accessible design by the team of 
firefox : https://design.firefox.com/photon/visuals/color.html
They link to these guidelines/tools - in case you'll want to tweak your 
theme even further  :)

   - https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG/#visual-audio-contrast - WCAG 2.0 
    Level AA guidelines 
   to ensure proper color contrast 
   - https://www.tpgi.com/color-contrast-checker/ - contrast and color 
   blindness analyzer (Windows and macOS) by The Paciello Group. 
   - https://contrast-ratio.com/ - contrast ratio calculator (Web) by Lea 
   Verou. 
   - https://michelf.ca/projects/sim-daltonism/ - color blindness simulator 
   (iOS and macOS) by Michel Fortin. 
   - https://msdn.microsoft.com/library/windows/desktop/hh404233(v=vs.85).aspx 
   - Supporting High Contrast Themes on Windows, guidelines by Windows Dev 
   Center.
   
   
Le jeudi 26 août 2021 à 09:34:37 UTC+2, Mohammad a écrit :

> Finn
> I would recommend separating the color palette from layout (theme)!
> Right now, I cannot change the color palette!
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 1:21 AM Finn Lancaster  wrote:
>
>> Earlier today, I released my newest plugin/theme: tw5-primer, using the 
>> primer.css library. Now, I'm happy to announce v1.0.1 is here, where I have 
>> built upon the old code to conform with TW standards, as recommended by 
>> @PMario. 
>>
>> For those of you who haven't already seen it, a demo/install can be found 
>> at tw5-primer.finnsoftware.net , and its github page is at 
>> https://github.com/flancast90/tw5-primer.
>>
>> *What's new?*
>> - There is no longer any js portion involved in the theme
>> - instead, everything is now CSS as a styles.tid file. This keeps your 
>> wiki lightning fast, as well as usable in no-internet situations! 
>> - Theming colors updated: edit area, tags, etc all are different looking 
>> using a mix of primer classes and my own CSS!
>>
>> *And one Last Thing:*
>> I'm looking to get some others opinions on this; I would like to rename 
>> the plugin the Charcoal, or perhaps Ebony to reflect its modern feel, but 
>> would also like to keep the fact that it uses some (not much anymore) code 
>> from Primer.css, and is based upon it. 
>>
>> What do you guys think? Any different ideas for names?
>>
>> As usual, if you appreciate my work on this, drop a star at the github: 
>> https://github.com/flancast90/tw5-primer
>>
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[tw5] Re: List filter using the checkbox widget

[Télumire]

Hello,

This should help : 
https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/5e3ta-q-qIA/m/uIKL1C9PAgAJ

Le jeudi 26 août 2021 à 20:24:50 UTC+2, PMario a écrit :

> Hi, 
> I didn't test it, but the checkbox [1] widget has "check" and "uncheck" 
> actions. You may use the listops [2] operators there. 
>
> [1] https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#CheckboxWidget
> [2] https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Filter%20Operators
>
> -mario
>
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[tw5] Re: Tw-Themes: How to keep CSS so users can still (palette) tweak?

[Finn Lancaster]

Started working on it, and already another question! It seems that I can't 
include a palette inside the theme, but instead may have to do it 
differently ???

My palette file looks like this:

description: Sleek dark skin for tw5, based on primer.css!
name: tw5-primer
title: $:/palettes/tw5-primer
tags: $:/tags/Palette
type: application/x-tiddler-dictionary

And palette code here...

Any ideas for what's going on? I'm thinking maybe the palette may have to 
be defined inside the css file??

Thanks for your (continued) help!
On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 7:45:47 PM UTC-4 Finn Lancaster wrote:

> Thanks, I'll look at doing this, and hopefully not run into any more 
> issues so that I don't have to bother you anymore :)
>
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 7:36:55 PM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:
>
>> A palette is basically a data tiddler, a dictionary that stores N 
>> key:value, with type application/x-tiddler-dictionary. Then you can use it 
>> with <> where keyName can be page-background or others. 
>>
>> You don´t need change the type, that is the default type (I think). If 
>> your file has the correct tag ( $:/tags/Stylesheet ) then it works like 
>> stylesheet file.
>>
>> you can see more of what was discussed here 
>> 
>>
>> Do not be scared of the number of entries in the vanilla palette, many 
>> keys reuse values, there are palettes with fewer entries. It is also 
>> something that has already been discussed about how to reduce the palettes, 
>> but it would be part of the hard rework in the styles of TiddlyWiki. 
>> El viernes, 27 de agosto de 2021 a las 0:36:14 UTC+2, 
>> strikke...@gmail.com escribió:
>>
>>> <> gives you the color number from the palette - that will 
>>> be the colour the user of your theme has chosen as the active palette for 
>>> their use of Tiddlywiki. 
>>> Sorry but I do not know much more about the subject.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 11:54:48 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 that seems to have worked, @strikke..., I'm guessing I have to include 
 it in my theme files now, and that I can change my css to a 
 text/vnd.tiddlywiki file, so that I can call colors such as 
 <> 
 ? Is this correct to assume?

 On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 5:48:02 PM UTC-4 strikke...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

>
>
> Sorry if I am being stupid, but could it not be done going to 
> $:/ControlPanel  
> select tab Appearance and then Palette. Go to the bottom of that and 
> click 
> the Show editor button. That will show the selected palette. Select clone 
> palette. Then you can edit that. You will see how it is done and can 
> choose 
> the colours you prefer. That is at least a start. 
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:27:17 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks @Alvaro,
>>
>> Would you mind explaining how to make a palette? This is my first 
>> theme, but I do have some experience creating plugins, so I just need to 
>> be 
>> pointed in the right direction :)
>>
>> Thanks again!
>>
>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 2:59:39 PM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:
>>
>>> The color values from palettes are used via colour(/color) macro.
>>>
>>> How you can see in $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/base  many values 
>>> of some properties are direcly transclude or with macro.
>>> For example, the selector mentioned by you:
>>>
>>> body.tc-body {
>>> font-size: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/fontsize}};
>>> line-height: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/lineheight}};
>>> word-wrap: break-word;
>>> <>
>>> color: <>;
>>> *background-color: <>;*
>>> fill: <>;
>>> }
>>>
>>> You will need create a palette for your theme
>>> El jueves, 26 de agosto de 2021 a las 16:18:46 UTC+2, 
>>> flanc...@gmail.com escribió:
>>>
 Hi,

 Recently I have been working on my tw5-primer theme, and some 
 feedback I have gotten suggests that the theme doesn't allow palette 
 tweaking. Testing on my own, I was able to verify it, indeed, doesn't 
 allow 
 this behaviour, and I have begun to fix it.

 Here is the issue: even simplifying the CSS, the theme still 
 overrides the palette changes. For example, if I am working on 
 .tc-body, I 
 add the following CSS to my theme

 body.tc-body {
  background-color: #000;
 }

 , which changes the background to black. However, if a user goes to 
 change the palette, which, say, changes the background to white, it 
 doesn't 
 work, because the palette call of

 

[tw5] Re: Tw-Themes: How to keep CSS so users can still (palette) tweak?

[Finn Lancaster]

Thanks, I'll look at doing this, and hopefully not run into any more issues 
so that I don't have to bother you anymore :)

On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 7:36:55 PM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:

> A palette is basically a data tiddler, a dictionary that stores N 
> key:value, with type application/x-tiddler-dictionary. Then you can use it 
> with <> where keyName can be page-background or others. 
>
> You don´t need change the type, that is the default type (I think). If 
> your file has the correct tag ( $:/tags/Stylesheet ) then it works like 
> stylesheet file.
>
> you can see more of what was discussed here 
> 
>
> Do not be scared of the number of entries in the vanilla palette, many 
> keys reuse values, there are palettes with fewer entries. It is also 
> something that has already been discussed about how to reduce the palettes, 
> but it would be part of the hard rework in the styles of TiddlyWiki. 
> El viernes, 27 de agosto de 2021 a las 0:36:14 UTC+2, strikke...@gmail.com 
> escribió:
>
>> <> gives you the color number from the palette - that will 
>> be the colour the user of your theme has chosen as the active palette for 
>> their use of Tiddlywiki. 
>> Sorry but I do not know much more about the subject.
>>
>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 11:54:48 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> that seems to have worked, @strikke..., I'm guessing I have to include 
>>> it in my theme files now, and that I can change my css to a 
>>> text/vnd.tiddlywiki file, so that I can call colors such as <> 
>>> ? Is this correct to assume?
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 5:48:02 PM UTC-4 strikke...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>


 Sorry if I am being stupid, but could it not be done going to 
 $:/ControlPanel  
 select tab Appearance and then Palette. Go to the bottom of that and click 
 the Show editor button. That will show the selected palette. Select clone 
 palette. Then you can edit that. You will see how it is done and can 
 choose 
 the colours you prefer. That is at least a start. 
 On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:27:17 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Thanks @Alvaro,
>
> Would you mind explaining how to make a palette? This is my first 
> theme, but I do have some experience creating plugins, so I just need to 
> be 
> pointed in the right direction :)
>
> Thanks again!
>
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 2:59:39 PM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:
>
>> The color values from palettes are used via colour(/color) macro.
>>
>> How you can see in $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/base  many values of 
>> some properties are direcly transclude or with macro.
>> For example, the selector mentioned by you:
>>
>> body.tc-body {
>> font-size: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/fontsize}};
>> line-height: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/lineheight}};
>> word-wrap: break-word;
>> <>
>> color: <>;
>> *background-color: <>;*
>> fill: <>;
>> }
>>
>> You will need create a palette for your theme
>> El jueves, 26 de agosto de 2021 a las 16:18:46 UTC+2, 
>> flanc...@gmail.com escribió:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Recently I have been working on my tw5-primer theme, and some 
>>> feedback I have gotten suggests that the theme doesn't allow palette 
>>> tweaking. Testing on my own, I was able to verify it, indeed, doesn't 
>>> allow 
>>> this behaviour, and I have begun to fix it.
>>>
>>> Here is the issue: even simplifying the CSS, the theme still 
>>> overrides the palette changes. For example, if I am working on 
>>> .tc-body, I 
>>> add the following CSS to my theme
>>>
>>> body.tc-body {
>>>  background-color: #000;
>>> }
>>>
>>> , which changes the background to black. However, if a user goes to 
>>> change the palette, which, say, changes the background to white, it 
>>> doesn't 
>>> work, because the palette call of
>>>
>>> body.tc-body {
>>>  background-color: #fff;
>>> }
>>>
>>> is still overridden. As far as I can tell, my theme CSS cannot be 
>>> simplified further to where it is not override ALL the timer.
>>>
>>> Is any tw dev/experienced theme-maker able to help?
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Tw-Themes: How to keep CSS so users can still (palette) tweak?

[Álvaro]

A palette is basically a data tiddler, a dictionary that stores N 
key:value, with type application/x-tiddler-dictionary. Then you can use it 
with <> where keyName can be page-background or others. 

You don´t need change the type, that is the default type (I think). If your 
file has the correct tag ( $:/tags/Stylesheet ) then it works like 
stylesheet file.

you can see more of what was discussed here 


Do not be scared of the number of entries in the vanilla palette, many keys 
reuse values, there are palettes with fewer entries. It is also something 
that has already been discussed about how to reduce the palettes, but it 
would be part of the hard rework in the styles of TiddlyWiki. 
El viernes, 27 de agosto de 2021 a las 0:36:14 UTC+2, strikke...@gmail.com 
escribió:

> <> gives you the color number from the palette - that will be 
> the colour the user of your theme has chosen as the active palette for 
> their use of Tiddlywiki. 
> Sorry but I do not know much more about the subject.
>
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 11:54:48 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> that seems to have worked, @strikke..., I'm guessing I have to include it 
>> in my theme files now, and that I can change my css to a 
>> text/vnd.tiddlywiki file, so that I can call colors such as <> 
>> ? Is this correct to assume?
>>
>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 5:48:02 PM UTC-4 strikke...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry if I am being stupid, but could it not be done going to 
>>> $:/ControlPanel  
>>> select tab Appearance and then Palette. Go to the bottom of that and click 
>>> the Show editor button. That will show the selected palette. Select clone 
>>> palette. Then you can edit that. You will see how it is done and can choose 
>>> the colours you prefer. That is at least a start. 
>>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:27:17 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks @Alvaro,

 Would you mind explaining how to make a palette? This is my first 
 theme, but I do have some experience creating plugins, so I just need to 
 be 
 pointed in the right direction :)

 Thanks again!

 On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 2:59:39 PM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:

> The color values from palettes are used via colour(/color) macro.
>
> How you can see in $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/base  many values of 
> some properties are direcly transclude or with macro.
> For example, the selector mentioned by you:
>
> body.tc-body {
> font-size: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/fontsize}};
> line-height: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/lineheight}};
> word-wrap: break-word;
> <>
> color: <>;
> *background-color: <>;*
> fill: <>;
> }
>
> You will need create a palette for your theme
> El jueves, 26 de agosto de 2021 a las 16:18:46 UTC+2, 
> flanc...@gmail.com escribió:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Recently I have been working on my tw5-primer theme, and some 
>> feedback I have gotten suggests that the theme doesn't allow palette 
>> tweaking. Testing on my own, I was able to verify it, indeed, doesn't 
>> allow 
>> this behaviour, and I have begun to fix it.
>>
>> Here is the issue: even simplifying the CSS, the theme still 
>> overrides the palette changes. For example, if I am working on .tc-body, 
>> I 
>> add the following CSS to my theme
>>
>> body.tc-body {
>>  background-color: #000;
>> }
>>
>> , which changes the background to black. However, if a user goes to 
>> change the palette, which, say, changes the background to white, it 
>> doesn't 
>> work, because the palette call of
>>
>> body.tc-body {
>>  background-color: #fff;
>> }
>>
>> is still overridden. As far as I can tell, my theme CSS cannot be 
>> simplified further to where it is not override ALL the timer.
>>
>> Is any tw dev/experienced theme-maker able to help?
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Tw-Themes: How to keep CSS so users can still (palette) tweak?

[strikke...@gmail.com]

<> gives you the color number from the palette - that will be 
the colour the user of your theme has chosen as the active palette for 
their use of Tiddlywiki. 
Sorry but I do not know much more about the subject.

On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 11:54:48 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> that seems to have worked, @strikke..., I'm guessing I have to include it 
> in my theme files now, and that I can change my css to a 
> text/vnd.tiddlywiki file, so that I can call colors such as <> 
> ? Is this correct to assume?
>
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 5:48:02 PM UTC-4 strikke...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Sorry if I am being stupid, but could it not be done going to 
>> $:/ControlPanel  
>> select tab Appearance and then Palette. Go to the bottom of that and click 
>> the Show editor button. That will show the selected palette. Select clone 
>> palette. Then you can edit that. You will see how it is done and can choose 
>> the colours you prefer. That is at least a start. 
>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:27:17 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks @Alvaro,
>>>
>>> Would you mind explaining how to make a palette? This is my first theme, 
>>> but I do have some experience creating plugins, so I just need to be 
>>> pointed in the right direction :)
>>>
>>> Thanks again!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 2:59:39 PM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:
>>>
 The color values from palettes are used via colour(/color) macro.

 How you can see in $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/base  many values of 
 some properties are direcly transclude or with macro.
 For example, the selector mentioned by you:

 body.tc-body {
 font-size: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/fontsize}};
 line-height: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/lineheight}};
 word-wrap: break-word;
 <>
 color: <>;
 *background-color: <>;*
 fill: <>;
 }

 You will need create a palette for your theme
 El jueves, 26 de agosto de 2021 a las 16:18:46 UTC+2, 
 flanc...@gmail.com escribió:

> Hi,
>
> Recently I have been working on my tw5-primer theme, and some feedback 
> I have gotten suggests that the theme doesn't allow palette tweaking. 
> Testing on my own, I was able to verify it, indeed, doesn't allow this 
> behaviour, and I have begun to fix it.
>
> Here is the issue: even simplifying the CSS, the theme still overrides 
> the palette changes. For example, if I am working on .tc-body, I add the 
> following CSS to my theme
>
> body.tc-body {
>  background-color: #000;
> }
>
> , which changes the background to black. However, if a user goes to 
> change the palette, which, say, changes the background to white, it 
> doesn't 
> work, because the palette call of
>
> body.tc-body {
>  background-color: #fff;
> }
>
> is still overridden. As far as I can tell, my theme CSS cannot be 
> simplified further to where it is not override ALL the timer.
>
> Is any tw dev/experienced theme-maker able to help?
>


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[tw5] Re: Tw-Themes: How to keep CSS so users can still (palette) tweak?

[Finn Lancaster]

that seems to have worked, @strikke..., I'm guessing I have to include it 
in my theme files now, and that I can change my css to a 
text/vnd.tiddlywiki file, so that I can call colors such as <> 
? Is this correct to assume?

On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 5:48:02 PM UTC-4 strikke...@gmail.com wrote:

>
>
> Sorry if I am being stupid, but could it not be done going to $:/ControlPanel 
>  
> select tab Appearance and then Palette. Go to the bottom of that and click 
> the Show editor button. That will show the selected palette. Select clone 
> palette. Then you can edit that. You will see how it is done and can choose 
> the colours you prefer. That is at least a start. 
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:27:17 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks @Alvaro,
>>
>> Would you mind explaining how to make a palette? This is my first theme, 
>> but I do have some experience creating plugins, so I just need to be 
>> pointed in the right direction :)
>>
>> Thanks again!
>>
>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 2:59:39 PM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:
>>
>>> The color values from palettes are used via colour(/color) macro.
>>>
>>> How you can see in $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/base  many values of 
>>> some properties are direcly transclude or with macro.
>>> For example, the selector mentioned by you:
>>>
>>> body.tc-body {
>>> font-size: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/fontsize}};
>>> line-height: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/lineheight}};
>>> word-wrap: break-word;
>>> <>
>>> color: <>;
>>> *background-color: <>;*
>>> fill: <>;
>>> }
>>>
>>> You will need create a palette for your theme
>>> El jueves, 26 de agosto de 2021 a las 16:18:46 UTC+2, flanc...@gmail.com 
>>> escribió:
>>>
 Hi,

 Recently I have been working on my tw5-primer theme, and some feedback 
 I have gotten suggests that the theme doesn't allow palette tweaking. 
 Testing on my own, I was able to verify it, indeed, doesn't allow this 
 behaviour, and I have begun to fix it.

 Here is the issue: even simplifying the CSS, the theme still overrides 
 the palette changes. For example, if I am working on .tc-body, I add the 
 following CSS to my theme

 body.tc-body {
  background-color: #000;
 }

 , which changes the background to black. However, if a user goes to 
 change the palette, which, say, changes the background to white, it 
 doesn't 
 work, because the palette call of

 body.tc-body {
  background-color: #fff;
 }

 is still overridden. As far as I can tell, my theme CSS cannot be 
 simplified further to where it is not override ALL the timer.

 Is any tw dev/experienced theme-maker able to help?

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Tw-Themes: How to keep CSS so users can still (palette) tweak?

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Sorry if I am being stupid, but could it not be done going to $:/ControlPanel  
select tab Appearance and then Palette. Go to the bottom of that and click 
the Show editor button. That will show the selected palette. Select clone 
palette. Then you can edit that. You will see how it is done and can choose 
the colours you prefer. That is at least a start. 
On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:27:17 PM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks @Alvaro,
>
> Would you mind explaining how to make a palette? This is my first theme, 
> but I do have some experience creating plugins, so I just need to be 
> pointed in the right direction :)
>
> Thanks again!
>
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 2:59:39 PM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:
>
>> The color values from palettes are used via colour(/color) macro.
>>
>> How you can see in $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/base  many values of 
>> some properties are direcly transclude or with macro.
>> For example, the selector mentioned by you:
>>
>> body.tc-body {
>> font-size: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/fontsize}};
>> line-height: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/lineheight}};
>> word-wrap: break-word;
>> <>
>> color: <>;
>> *background-color: <>;*
>> fill: <>;
>> }
>>
>> You will need create a palette for your theme
>> El jueves, 26 de agosto de 2021 a las 16:18:46 UTC+2, flanc...@gmail.com 
>> escribió:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Recently I have been working on my tw5-primer theme, and some feedback I 
>>> have gotten suggests that the theme doesn't allow palette tweaking. Testing 
>>> on my own, I was able to verify it, indeed, doesn't allow this behaviour, 
>>> and I have begun to fix it.
>>>
>>> Here is the issue: even simplifying the CSS, the theme still overrides 
>>> the palette changes. For example, if I am working on .tc-body, I add the 
>>> following CSS to my theme
>>>
>>> body.tc-body {
>>>  background-color: #000;
>>> }
>>>
>>> , which changes the background to black. However, if a user goes to 
>>> change the palette, which, say, changes the background to white, it doesn't 
>>> work, because the palette call of
>>>
>>> body.tc-body {
>>>  background-color: #fff;
>>> }
>>>
>>> is still overridden. As far as I can tell, my theme CSS cannot be 
>>> simplified further to where it is not override ALL the timer.
>>>
>>> Is any tw dev/experienced theme-maker able to help?
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Tw-Themes: How to keep CSS so users can still (palette) tweak?

[Finn Lancaster]

Thanks @Alvaro,

Would you mind explaining how to make a palette? This is my first theme, 
but I do have some experience creating plugins, so I just need to be 
pointed in the right direction :)

Thanks again!

On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 2:59:39 PM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:

> The color values from palettes are used via colour(/color) macro.
>
> How you can see in $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/base  many values of some 
> properties are direcly transclude or with macro.
> For example, the selector mentioned by you:
>
> body.tc-body {
> font-size: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/fontsize}};
> line-height: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/lineheight}};
> word-wrap: break-word;
> <>
> color: <>;
> *background-color: <>;*
> fill: <>;
> }
>
> You will need create a palette for your theme
> El jueves, 26 de agosto de 2021 a las 16:18:46 UTC+2, flanc...@gmail.com 
> escribió:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Recently I have been working on my tw5-primer theme, and some feedback I 
>> have gotten suggests that the theme doesn't allow palette tweaking. Testing 
>> on my own, I was able to verify it, indeed, doesn't allow this behaviour, 
>> and I have begun to fix it.
>>
>> Here is the issue: even simplifying the CSS, the theme still overrides 
>> the palette changes. For example, if I am working on .tc-body, I add the 
>> following CSS to my theme
>>
>> body.tc-body {
>>  background-color: #000;
>> }
>>
>> , which changes the background to black. However, if a user goes to 
>> change the palette, which, say, changes the background to white, it doesn't 
>> work, because the palette call of
>>
>> body.tc-body {
>>  background-color: #fff;
>> }
>>
>> is still overridden. As far as I can tell, my theme CSS cannot be 
>> simplified further to where it is not override ALL the timer.
>>
>> Is any tw dev/experienced theme-maker able to help?
>>
>

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[tw5] A new TiddlyWiki5 Highlight plugin for CodeMirror

[Max Tesla]

Hello all,

I recently write a new plugin for tw5 to adds syntax Highlighting & Hint 
for TiddlyWiki5 tiddlers (text/vnd.tiddlywiki) to the CodeMirror.

If you need these functions in your wiki, you can have a try. The plugin is 
still under development, so please back up it before installing.

Download in my [GitHub 
Repo](https://github.com/Gk0Wk/CodeMirror-Mode-TiddlyWiki5), just follow 
Readme.

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[tw5] Re: Tw-Themes: How to keep CSS so users can still (palette) tweak?

[Álvaro]

The color values from palettes are used via colour(/color) macro.

How you can see in $:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/base  many values of some 
properties are direcly transclude or with macro.
For example, the selector mentioned by you:

body.tc-body {
font-size: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/fontsize}};
line-height: {{$:/themes/tiddlywiki/vanilla/metrics/lineheight}};
word-wrap: break-word;
<>
color: <>;
*background-color: <>;*
fill: <>;
}

You will need create a palette for your theme
El jueves, 26 de agosto de 2021 a las 16:18:46 UTC+2, flanc...@gmail.com 
escribió:

> Hi,
>
> Recently I have been working on my tw5-primer theme, and some feedback I 
> have gotten suggests that the theme doesn't allow palette tweaking. Testing 
> on my own, I was able to verify it, indeed, doesn't allow this behaviour, 
> and I have begun to fix it.
>
> Here is the issue: even simplifying the CSS, the theme still overrides the 
> palette changes. For example, if I am working on .tc-body, I add the 
> following CSS to my theme
>
> body.tc-body {
>  background-color: #000;
> }
>
> , which changes the background to black. However, if a user goes to change 
> the palette, which, say, changes the background to white, it doesn't work, 
> because the palette call of
>
> body.tc-body {
>  background-color: #fff;
> }
>
> is still overridden. As far as I can tell, my theme CSS cannot be 
> simplified further to where it is not override ALL the timer.
>
> Is any tw dev/experienced theme-maker able to help?
>

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[tw5] Re: List filter using the checkbox widget

[PMario]

Hi, 
I didn't test it, but the checkbox [1] widget has "check" and "uncheck" 
actions. You may use the listops [2] operators there. 

[1] https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#CheckboxWidget
[2] https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Filter%20Operators

-mario

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Re: [tw5] Re: Process contents of a field before transclusion

[Sandip Deshmukh]

Stobot,

My most sincere apologies.

Instead of transcluding the tiddler through the template, I was
transcluding the template.

In other words, I was missing '||'

I've added that and everything is working as expected.

Thanks for all your help.

On Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 23:06 Stobot  wrote:

> Hi Sandip - hmm well what I posted does what you're asking for unless I'm
> misunderstanding... Is it possible it's just simpler than you thought? In
> the screenshot the bottom tiddler is what you describe, and in the top one
> I'm using the bottom one as a template and it's indeed returning the list
> of family members (in that case Adam and John) prefixed with # as desired.
>
> Regarding "turn it into a template", I think it's worth noting as there's
> nothing you have to do to "convert" it, in fact ALL tiddlers can be used as
> templates.
>
> Sorry that I'm not understanding what you're trying to do. I must be
> missing something.
>
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 1:29:13 PM UTC-4 Sandip Deshmukh wrote:
>
>> Hello Stobot,
>>
>> I wanted to modify 'HashTaggedFamilyMembers' and convert it into a
>> template.
>>
>> Then I would be able to transclude it in any tiddler like
>>
>> {{||HashTaggedFamilyMembers}}
>>
>> and produce list of family-members of that tiddler with # before each
>> name.
>>
>> I'm not able to do that.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 20:47 Stobot  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Sandip, which part isn't working for you? By your description it
>>> seems to work as you describe. My filter text is a little different using
>>> enlist, but otherwise as you decribe it?
>>>
>>> [image: screenshot.PNG]
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:23:50 AM UTC-4 Sandip Deshmukh wrote:
>>>
 A tiddler 'King George' contains a field 'family-members' that has the
 value [[Mary]] [[Henry]].

 The code

  <$list filter="[get{!!family-members}]">
 #{{!!title}}
 

 produces

 #Mary #Henry

 I want to put this code in a tiddler 'HashTaggedFamilyMembers' and use
 that as a template tiddler. So, I can put

 {{||HashTaggedFamilyMembers}}

 in any tiddler and get the list of family members with # before each
 name.

 Of course, if there is an easier way of doing it, please let me know.
 But it needs to have transclusion.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Process contents of a field before transclusion

[Stobot]

Hi Sandip - hmm well what I posted does what you're asking for unless I'm 
misunderstanding... Is it possible it's just simpler than you thought? In 
the screenshot the bottom tiddler is what you describe, and in the top one 
I'm using the bottom one as a template and it's indeed returning the list 
of family members (in that case Adam and John) prefixed with # as desired. 

Regarding "turn it into a template", I think it's worth noting as there's 
nothing you have to do to "convert" it, in fact ALL tiddlers can be used as 
templates. 

Sorry that I'm not understanding what you're trying to do. I must be 
missing something. 

On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 1:29:13 PM UTC-4 Sandip Deshmukh wrote:

> Hello Stobot,
>
> I wanted to modify 'HashTaggedFamilyMembers' and convert it into a 
> template. 
>
> Then I would be able to transclude it in any tiddler like
>
> {{||HashTaggedFamilyMembers}}
>
> and produce list of family-members of that tiddler with # before each 
> name. 
>
> I'm not able to do that.
>
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 20:47 Stobot  wrote:
>
>> Hello Sandip, which part isn't working for you? By your description it 
>> seems to work as you describe. My filter text is a little different using 
>> enlist, but otherwise as you decribe it?
>>
>> [image: screenshot.PNG]
>>
>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:23:50 AM UTC-4 Sandip Deshmukh wrote:
>>
>>> A tiddler 'King George' contains a field 'family-members' that has the 
>>> value [[Mary]] [[Henry]].
>>>
>>> The code
>>>
>>>  <$list filter="[get{!!family-members}]">
>>> #{{!!title}}
>>> 
>>>
>>> produces
>>>
>>> #Mary #Henry
>>>
>>> I want to put this code in a tiddler 'HashTaggedFamilyMembers' and use 
>>> that as a template tiddler. So, I can put
>>>
>>> {{||HashTaggedFamilyMembers}}
>>>
>>> in any tiddler and get the list of family members with # before each 
>>> name.
>>>
>>> Of course, if there is an easier way of doing it, please let me know. 
>>> But it needs to have transclusion.
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Process contents of a field before transclusion

[Sandip Deshmukh]

Hello Stobot,

I wanted to modify 'HashTaggedFamilyMembers' and convert it into a
template.

Then I would be able to transclude it in any tiddler like

{{||HashTaggedFamilyMembers}}

and produce list of family-members of that tiddler with # before each name.

I'm not able to do that.

On Thu, Aug 26, 2021, 20:47 Stobot  wrote:

> Hello Sandip, which part isn't working for you? By your description it
> seems to work as you describe. My filter text is a little different using
> enlist, but otherwise as you decribe it?
>
> [image: screenshot.PNG]
>
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:23:50 AM UTC-4 Sandip Deshmukh wrote:
>
>> A tiddler 'King George' contains a field 'family-members' that has the
>> value [[Mary]] [[Henry]].
>>
>> The code
>>
>>  <$list filter="[get{!!family-members}]">
>> #{{!!title}}
>> 
>>
>> produces
>>
>> #Mary #Henry
>>
>> I want to put this code in a tiddler 'HashTaggedFamilyMembers' and use
>> that as a template tiddler. So, I can put
>>
>> {{||HashTaggedFamilyMembers}}
>>
>> in any tiddler and get the list of family members with # before each name.
>>
>> Of course, if there is an easier way of doing it, please let me know. But
>> it needs to have transclusion.
>>
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[tw5] Re: Transclusion through template --- preserve wikitex formatting

[Soren Bjornstad]

For background on what's going on here, see Block Mode and Inline Mode 
 in *Grok 
TiddlyWiki.*

On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 4:16:21 AM UTC-5 Sandip Deshmukh wrote:

> Thanks. That worked perfectly.
>
>
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 12:04:46 PM UTC+5:30 Eric Shulman wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, August 25, 2021 at 10:39:54 PM UTC-7 Sandip Deshmukh wrote:
>>
>>> My `ContactInformation'  tiddler contains:
>>> <$list filter="[contains:participants!sort[on]]">
>>>   <$link />
>>>   {{!!text}}
>>>  
>>>
>> The wikitex formatting in 'KG More1' is lost when transcluded.
>>>
>> How do I ensure that it is preserved?
>>>
>>
>> replace {{!!text}} with <$transclude mode="block"/>
>>
>> enjoy,
>> -e
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: List filter using the checkbox widget

[Charlie Veniot]

G'day,

Yeah, you're right: each checkbox is indeed overwriting the (entire) field 
with what is associated with the one selected checkbox.

i.e. the field doesn't aggregate the values of multiple selected check 
boxes.

I imagine you've noticed that having each check box associated with the 
same field, the checkboxes behave like radio buttons.

On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 8:26:28 AM UTC-3 jkm...@gmail.com wrote:

> I am able to use the radio widget to control my list filter.  Now I would 
> like to use checkboxes in a multi-select manner (e.g., include any checked 
> keywords:  Info, fix, Procedure).  However, I haven't seen an example of 
> this yet.  My attempt
>
> ...
> ''KBA Type:''
>   <$checkbox tiddler="$:/temp/ktype" 
> value="Procedure">Procedure
>   <$checkbox tiddler="$:/temp/ktype" 
> value="Info">Info
>   <$checkbox tiddler="$:/temp/ktype" 
> value="Fix">Fix  
> 
> ...
> <$list filter="[tag[KBA]ktype{$:/temp/ktype}]">
>
> I think I expected all selected items to be handled in the same temp 
> tiddler but maybe I'm overwriting it each time I check/uncheck.  Do I need 
> to create a temp tiddler for each and work out the list filter logic 
> manually in a sequence of separate runs?   
>
> Not sure it's relevant, but I will be wanting to use this to filter on 
> values in a field.  That field may contain a single string or list of 
> strings (examples: *Info *or *Fix Procedure* or *Fix Info*).  Ultimately 
> I would like to derive the list of checkboxes from a field within all 
> tiddlers with a specific tag.  Like a "tag" based search engine except they 
> are not TW tags, they are just tags derived from the tiddler field.  But, 
> baby steps (assuming it's possible/practical).
>

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[tw5] Re: Process contents of a field before transclusion

[Stobot]

Hello Sandip, which part isn't working for you? By your description it 
seems to work as you describe. My filter text is a little different using 
enlist, but otherwise as you decribe it?

[image: screenshot.PNG]

On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 10:23:50 AM UTC-4 Sandip Deshmukh wrote:

> A tiddler 'King George' contains a field 'family-members' that has the 
> value [[Mary]] [[Henry]].
>
> The code
>
>  <$list filter="[get{!!family-members}]">
> #{{!!title}}
> 
>
> produces
>
> #Mary #Henry
>
> I want to put this code in a tiddler 'HashTaggedFamilyMembers' and use 
> that as a template tiddler. So, I can put
>
> {{||HashTaggedFamilyMembers}}
>
> in any tiddler and get the list of family members with # before each name.
>
> Of course, if there is an easier way of doing it, please let me know. But 
> it needs to have transclusion.
>

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[tw5] Re: List filter using the checkbox widget

[TW Tones]

Also remember you can make yourself a set of buttons and they can do what 
you want, then double them and conditionally show the appropriate one for 
the current state.

Buttons can replicate checkboxes, radio buttons and much more if you want, 
in fact tabs we use are and can be designed as buttons.

Tones


On Thursday, 26 August 2021 at 22:51:56 UTC+10 jkm...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Tones
> I did see the select widget but was hoping for a method that takes up less 
> space and has a slightly easier mechanic.  I'll may use it, at least for now
>
> @Stobot
> I hadn't thought of using fields in the temp tiddler.  I think I would 
> need a method of naming and incrementing through the fields as this will 
> change based on the source tiddler's field contents
>
> Thanks to you both for a quick reply
>
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 7:19:10 AM UTC-5 Stobot wrote:
>
>> I might be proven wrong, but my experience is that it's a 1:1 
>> relationship between the checkbox and a storage location, there's not a way 
>> to directly have multiple checkboxes change a list per-se. A couple of 
>> ideas though:
>>
>>- You could use the same temp tiddler and use individual fields for 
>>your possible values, that might make it easier to collect the values for 
>>later processing. 
>>- There are now "checkactions" and "uncheck actions" associated with 
>>the widget. So, if you wanted to, you could force the checkboxes to run a 
>>listops routine to add-subtract values from a list. This would be the 
>>closest to what your expecations are, but it might not actually be the 
>> most 
>>efficient. 
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 8:07:40 AM UTC-4 TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> jkm
>>>
>>> Have you looked at the select widget, it also has a multiple option.
>>>
>>> Tones
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 26 August 2021 at 21:26:28 UTC+10 jkm...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I am able to use the radio widget to control my list filter.  Now I 
 would like to use checkboxes in a multi-select manner (e.g., include any 
 checked keywords:  Info, fix, Procedure).  However, I haven't seen an 
 example of this yet.  My attempt

 ...
 ''KBA Type:''
   <$checkbox tiddler="$:/temp/ktype" 
 value="Procedure">Procedure
   <$checkbox tiddler="$:/temp/ktype" 
 value="Info">Info
   <$checkbox tiddler="$:/temp/ktype" 
 value="Fix">Fix  
 
 ...
 <$list filter="[tag[KBA]ktype{$:/temp/ktype}]">

 I think I expected all selected items to be handled in the same temp 
 tiddler but maybe I'm overwriting it each time I check/uncheck.  Do I need 
 to create a temp tiddler for each and work out the list filter logic 
 manually in a sequence of separate runs?   

 Not sure it's relevant, but I will be wanting to use this to filter on 
 values in a field.  That field may contain a single string or list of 
 strings (examples: *Info *or *Fix Procedure* or *Fix Info*).  
 Ultimately I would like to derive the list of checkboxes from a field 
 within all tiddlers with a specific tag.  Like a "tag" based search engine 
 except they are not TW tags, they are just tags derived from the tiddler 
 field.  But, baby steps (assuming it's possible/practical).

>>>

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[tw5] Process contents of a field before transclusion

[Sandip Deshmukh]

A tiddler 'King George' contains a field 'family-members' that has the 
value [[Mary]] [[Henry]].

The code

 <$list filter="[get{!!family-members}]">
#{{!!title}}


produces

#Mary #Henry

I want to put this code in a tiddler 'HashTaggedFamilyMembers' and use that 
as a template tiddler. So, I can put

{{||HashTaggedFamilyMembers}}

in any tiddler and get the list of family members with # before each name.

Of course, if there is an easier way of doing it, please let me know. But 
it needs to have transclusion.

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[tw5] Tw-Themes: How to keep CSS so users can still (palette) tweak?

[Finn Lancaster]

Hi,

Recently I have been working on my tw5-primer theme, and some feedback I 
have gotten suggests that the theme doesn't allow palette tweaking. Testing 
on my own, I was able to verify it, indeed, doesn't allow this behaviour, 
and I have begun to fix it.

Here is the issue: even simplifying the CSS, the theme still overrides the 
palette changes. For example, if I am working on .tc-body, I add the 
following CSS to my theme

body.tc-body {
 background-color: #000;
}

, which changes the background to black. However, if a user goes to change 
the palette, which, say, changes the background to white, it doesn't work, 
because the palette call of

body.tc-body {
 background-color: #fff;
}

is still overridden. As far as I can tell, my theme CSS cannot be 
simplified further to where it is not override ALL the timer.

Is any tw dev/experienced theme-maker able to help?

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[tw5] Re: Renaming and deleting fields

[Sandip Deshmukh]

Mohammad,

That was a life saver. Thanks a lot!

On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 5:36:24 PM UTC+5:30 TW Tones wrote:

> Sorry,
>
> I meant to say as long as a field exists somewhere it will be available in 
> the new field dropdown. If you need to delete in bulk let us know or use 
> Mohammads tools.
>
> Tones
>
> On Thursday, 26 August 2021 at 22:04:56 UTC+10 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> Sandip
>>
>>
>>- In edit mode the fields should appear at the bottom for editing, to 
>>the right is a trash can to delete.
>>- To rename you need to create the new one (optionally copy the value 
>>over) and delete the old one
>>- If you are trying to do it programmatically you can use a button 
>>and  ActionSetFieldWidget 
>>  
>>ActionDeleteFieldWidget 
>> and or  WidgetMessage: 
>>tm-remove-field 
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Tones
>>
>> On Thursday, 26 August 2021 at 20:34:14 UTC+10 Sandip Deshmukh wrote:
>>
>>> It is easy to rename and delete tags.
>>>
>>> But how do I do the same with fields?
>>>
>>> Suppose, fld1 and fld2 are the fields I have created.
>>>
>>> How can I rename fld1 to field1 and remove (so it does not show up in 
>>> the list of fields available when I create a tiddler) fld2?
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: List filter using the checkbox widget

[John Mayes]

@Tones
I did see the select widget but was hoping for a method that takes up less 
space and has a slightly easier mechanic.  I'll may use it, at least for now

@Stobot
I hadn't thought of using fields in the temp tiddler.  I think I would need 
a method of naming and incrementing through the fields as this will change 
based on the source tiddler's field contents

Thanks to you both for a quick reply

On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 7:19:10 AM UTC-5 Stobot wrote:

> I might be proven wrong, but my experience is that it's a 1:1 relationship 
> between the checkbox and a storage location, there's not a way to directly 
> have multiple checkboxes change a list per-se. A couple of ideas though:
>
>- You could use the same temp tiddler and use individual fields for 
>your possible values, that might make it easier to collect the values for 
>later processing. 
>- There are now "checkactions" and "uncheck actions" associated with 
>the widget. So, if you wanted to, you could force the checkboxes to run a 
>listops routine to add-subtract values from a list. This would be the 
>closest to what your expecations are, but it might not actually be the 
> most 
>efficient. 
>
>
> On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 8:07:40 AM UTC-4 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> jkm
>>
>> Have you looked at the select widget, it also has a multiple option.
>>
>> Tones
>>
>> On Thursday, 26 August 2021 at 21:26:28 UTC+10 jkm...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I am able to use the radio widget to control my list filter.  Now I 
>>> would like to use checkboxes in a multi-select manner (e.g., include any 
>>> checked keywords:  Info, fix, Procedure).  However, I haven't seen an 
>>> example of this yet.  My attempt
>>>
>>> ...
>>> ''KBA Type:''
>>>   <$checkbox tiddler="$:/temp/ktype" 
>>> value="Procedure">Procedure
>>>   <$checkbox tiddler="$:/temp/ktype" 
>>> value="Info">Info
>>>   <$checkbox tiddler="$:/temp/ktype" 
>>> value="Fix">Fix  
>>> 
>>> ...
>>> <$list filter="[tag[KBA]ktype{$:/temp/ktype}]">
>>>
>>> I think I expected all selected items to be handled in the same temp 
>>> tiddler but maybe I'm overwriting it each time I check/uncheck.  Do I need 
>>> to create a temp tiddler for each and work out the list filter logic 
>>> manually in a sequence of separate runs?   
>>>
>>> Not sure it's relevant, but I will be wanting to use this to filter on 
>>> values in a field.  That field may contain a single string or list of 
>>> strings (examples: *Info *or *Fix Procedure* or *Fix Info*).  
>>> Ultimately I would like to derive the list of checkboxes from a field 
>>> within all tiddlers with a specific tag.  Like a "tag" based search engine 
>>> except they are not TW tags, they are just tags derived from the tiddler 
>>> field.  But, baby steps (assuming it's possible/practical).
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: List filter using the checkbox widget

[Stobot]

I might be proven wrong, but my experience is that it's a 1:1 relationship 
between the checkbox and a storage location, there's not a way to directly 
have multiple checkboxes change a list per-se. A couple of ideas though:

   - You could use the same temp tiddler and use individual fields for your 
   possible values, that might make it easier to collect the values for later 
   processing. 
   - There are now "checkactions" and "uncheck actions" associated with the 
   widget. So, if you wanted to, you could force the checkboxes to run a 
   listops routine to add-subtract values from a list. This would be the 
   closest to what your expecations are, but it might not actually be the most 
   efficient. 


On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 8:07:40 AM UTC-4 TW Tones wrote:

> jkm
>
> Have you looked at the select widget, it also has a multiple option.
>
> Tones
>
> On Thursday, 26 August 2021 at 21:26:28 UTC+10 jkm...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I am able to use the radio widget to control my list filter.  Now I would 
>> like to use checkboxes in a multi-select manner (e.g., include any checked 
>> keywords:  Info, fix, Procedure).  However, I haven't seen an example of 
>> this yet.  My attempt
>>
>> ...
>> ''KBA Type:''
>>   <$checkbox tiddler="$:/temp/ktype" 
>> value="Procedure">Procedure
>>   <$checkbox tiddler="$:/temp/ktype" 
>> value="Info">Info
>>   <$checkbox tiddler="$:/temp/ktype" 
>> value="Fix">Fix  
>> 
>> ...
>> <$list filter="[tag[KBA]ktype{$:/temp/ktype}]">
>>
>> I think I expected all selected items to be handled in the same temp 
>> tiddler but maybe I'm overwriting it each time I check/uncheck.  Do I need 
>> to create a temp tiddler for each and work out the list filter logic 
>> manually in a sequence of separate runs?   
>>
>> Not sure it's relevant, but I will be wanting to use this to filter on 
>> values in a field.  That field may contain a single string or list of 
>> strings (examples: *Info *or *Fix Procedure* or *Fix Info*).  Ultimately 
>> I would like to derive the list of checkboxes from a field within all 
>> tiddlers with a specific tag.  Like a "tag" based search engine except they 
>> are not TW tags, they are just tags derived from the tiddler field.  But, 
>> baby steps (assuming it's possible/practical).
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: List filter using the checkbox widget

[TW Tones]

jkm

Have you looked at the select widget, it also has a multiple option.

Tones

On Thursday, 26 August 2021 at 21:26:28 UTC+10 jkm...@gmail.com wrote:

> I am able to use the radio widget to control my list filter.  Now I would 
> like to use checkboxes in a multi-select manner (e.g., include any checked 
> keywords:  Info, fix, Procedure).  However, I haven't seen an example of 
> this yet.  My attempt
>
> ...
> ''KBA Type:''
>   <$checkbox tiddler="$:/temp/ktype" 
> value="Procedure">Procedure
>   <$checkbox tiddler="$:/temp/ktype" 
> value="Info">Info
>   <$checkbox tiddler="$:/temp/ktype" 
> value="Fix">Fix  
> 
> ...
> <$list filter="[tag[KBA]ktype{$:/temp/ktype}]">
>
> I think I expected all selected items to be handled in the same temp 
> tiddler but maybe I'm overwriting it each time I check/uncheck.  Do I need 
> to create a temp tiddler for each and work out the list filter logic 
> manually in a sequence of separate runs?   
>
> Not sure it's relevant, but I will be wanting to use this to filter on 
> values in a field.  That field may contain a single string or list of 
> strings (examples: *Info *or *Fix Procedure* or *Fix Info*).  Ultimately 
> I would like to derive the list of checkboxes from a field within all 
> tiddlers with a specific tag.  Like a "tag" based search engine except they 
> are not TW tags, they are just tags derived from the tiddler field.  But, 
> baby steps (assuming it's possible/practical).
>

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[tw5] Re: Renaming and deleting fields

[TW Tones]

Sorry,

I meant to say as long as a field exists somewhere it will be available in 
the new field dropdown. If you need to delete in bulk let us know or use 
Mohammads tools.

Tones

On Thursday, 26 August 2021 at 22:04:56 UTC+10 TW Tones wrote:

> Sandip
>
>
>- In edit mode the fields should appear at the bottom for editing, to 
>the right is a trash can to delete.
>- To rename you need to create the new one (optionally copy the value 
>over) and delete the old one
>- If you are trying to do it programmatically you can use a button 
>and  ActionSetFieldWidget 
>  ActionDeleteFieldWidget 
> and or  WidgetMessage: 
>tm-remove-field 
>
>
> Regards
> Tones
>
> On Thursday, 26 August 2021 at 20:34:14 UTC+10 Sandip Deshmukh wrote:
>
>> It is easy to rename and delete tags.
>>
>> But how do I do the same with fields?
>>
>> Suppose, fld1 and fld2 are the fields I have created.
>>
>> How can I rename fld1 to field1 and remove (so it does not show up in the 
>> list of fields available when I create a tiddler) fld2?
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Renaming and deleting fields

[TW Tones]

Sandip


   - In edit mode the fields should appear at the bottom for editing, to 
   the right is a trash can to delete.
   - To rename you need to create the new one (optionally copy the value 
   over) and delete the old one
   - If you are trying to do it programmatically you can use a button and  
   ActionSetFieldWidget   
   ActionDeleteFieldWidget  
and 
   or  WidgetMessage: tm-remove-field 
   

Regards
Tones

On Thursday, 26 August 2021 at 20:34:14 UTC+10 Sandip Deshmukh wrote:

> It is easy to rename and delete tags.
>
> But how do I do the same with fields?
>
> Suppose, fld1 and fld2 are the fields I have created.
>
> How can I rename fld1 to field1 and remove (so it does not show up in the 
> list of fields available when I create a tiddler) fld2?
>

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[tw5] List filter using the checkbox widget

[John Mayes]

I am able to use the radio widget to control my list filter.  Now I would 
like to use checkboxes in a multi-select manner (e.g., include any checked 
keywords:  Info, fix, Procedure).  However, I haven't seen an example of 
this yet.  My attempt

...
''KBA Type:''
  <$checkbox tiddler="$:/temp/ktype" 
value="Procedure">Procedure
  <$checkbox tiddler="$:/temp/ktype" 
value="Info">Info
  <$checkbox tiddler="$:/temp/ktype" 
value="Fix">Fix  

...
<$list filter="[tag[KBA]ktype{$:/temp/ktype}]">

I think I expected all selected items to be handled in the same temp 
tiddler but maybe I'm overwriting it each time I check/uncheck.  Do I need 
to create a temp tiddler for each and work out the list filter logic 
manually in a sequence of separate runs?   

Not sure it's relevant, but I will be wanting to use this to filter on 
values in a field.  That field may contain a single string or list of 
strings (examples: *Info *or *Fix Procedure* or *Fix Info*).  Ultimately I 
would like to derive the list of checkboxes from a field within all 
tiddlers with a specific tag.  Like a "tag" based search engine except they 
are not TW tags, they are just tags derived from the tiddler field.  But, 
baby steps (assuming it's possible/practical).

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Re: [tw5] Renaming and deleting fields

[Mohammad Rahmani]

If you do this frequently for the number of tiddlers you may use Tiddler
Commander!



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 3:04 PM Sandip Deshmukh 
wrote:

> It is easy to rename and delete tags.
>
> But how do I do the same with fields?
>
> Suppose, fld1 and fld2 are the fields I have created.
>
> How can I rename fld1 to field1 and remove (so it does not show up in the
> list of fields available when I create a tiddler) fld2?
>
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[tw5] Renaming and deleting fields

[Sandip Deshmukh]

It is easy to rename and delete tags.

But how do I do the same with fields?

Suppose, fld1 and fld2 are the fields I have created.

How can I rename fld1 to field1 and remove (so it does not show up in the 
list of fields available when I create a tiddler) fld2?

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[tw5] Re: tw5-primer, Your New Favorite Theme/Plugin!

[PMario]

On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 4:47:09 AM UTC+2 flanc...@gmail.com wrote:
... 

> The plugin (at v1.0.0) used only text I specified as innerHTML to append 
> my stylesheet before tw's so to avoid unnecessary !important's and 
> specificity  in the CSS, 
>

I did see the !important declaration already. You and the users won't be 
happy with it, since the theme CSS will be really hard to tweak by users. 
There will be cases, where we see !important !important ... Which is 
possible but similar to "a shoot in the foot". 

If you search Google for "CSS important harmful" you will find some 
articles.

One of the more resent ones: 
https://uxengineer.com/css-specificity-avoid-important-css/

!important has a reason why it exists. It can be used if there is 
absolutely no other way. ... but ... If you need it for almost every 
element in your CSS there is a major flaw in the whole system. IMO it will 
be better to rethink this. 

I don't have a solution, since I didn't have a closer look. ... but I can 
say one thing. Plopping an alien CSS toolkit onto TW will most of the time 
create more problems as it solves. 

You did dig already into the TW UI and the CSS structure. IMO it would save 
you a lot of trouble and time, if you would try to understand it and use 
the possibilities that TW gives you, instead to try other "shiny" toolkits, 
that have been designed with a completely different philosophy and usecase 
behind it. 

just my thoughts.
-mario

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[tw5] Re: Transclusion through template --- preserve wikitex formatting

[Sandip Deshmukh]

Thanks. That worked perfectly.


On Thursday, August 26, 2021 at 12:04:46 PM UTC+5:30 Eric Shulman wrote:

> On Wednesday, August 25, 2021 at 10:39:54 PM UTC-7 Sandip Deshmukh wrote:
>
>> My `ContactInformation'  tiddler contains:
>> <$list filter="[contains:participants!sort[on]]">
>>   <$link />
>>   {{!!text}}
>>  
>>
> The wikitex formatting in 'KG More1' is lost when transcluded.
>>
> How do I ensure that it is preserved?
>>
>
> replace {{!!text}} with <$transclude mode="block"/>
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>

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Re: [tw5] "I moved to Discourse" - add your name too?

[TW Tones]

Ed,

It is truly amazing given what you have gone through that you are here and 
keeping an interest and sharing your story. I believe strongly that 
TiddlyWiki is a tool towards democratising software for every one with 
different skills, ability, experience, capacities in different areas. If it 
is what I believe it to be, it must be able to support all our needs small 
or large. Everyone of our community members especially with different needs 
are valuable participants, because without you all we cant be exposed to 
the issues that arise, and our communities capacity diminishes.

If we play our cards right tiddlywiki will enable far more than average 
Joes.

Best wishes
Tony
 


On Thursday, 26 August 2021 at 16:18:17 UTC+10 eddi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Tony,
>
> I honestly didn't read your reply as a complaint but thought mine may have 
> sounded that way or offended someone. Misunderstandings and confusion are 
> now a cloud that surrounds not only me but all those who dare try to 
> interpret what I am attempting to express as well LOL and a good reason to 
> keep that picture handy! Anyway, after looking at discourse (I hadn't even 
> peeked) and seeing I can go there and find out what is happening from time 
> to time without even setting up an account and knowing Jeremy is behind 
> this, I see nothing to worry about. I like sticking to the core and 
> avoiding addons as much as possible anyway. 
>
> Thanks Jeremy for letting me know what's happening and you are behind 
> this. I am so sorry to hear you had to deal with this bug! We do not want 
> you in my shape, get or stay well whichever best applies! 
>
> So, If it helps? I have been pretty much just lurking since 2014 when all 
> this stuff happened to me anyway and regretfully right in the middle of a 
> group effort with many here to build an add on for TW5 that would fulfill a 
> very specific need in education and I see has now been done ( a moodle 
> extension using scorm or whatever they are calling it now)! I am so happy 
> to see that but feel I had to let down many and regretfully it's of little 
> use to me now (no longer able to teach). The purpose I had was to use on 
> very limited tablets, in correctional (prison) systems, to get around the 
> fact that they had no internet access, only a browser for email, but with 
> TW5 would be able to pull and receive data from a learning 
> management server on site which I had already established, allowing 
> the teacher and student to track progress etc. I do appreciate and 
> apologize to all here that were in that group when this happened; it did 
> present capabilities far beyond my use in a greater educational role as 
> well and we were all very excited about it at the time. My stroke and brain 
> tumor came out of nowhere (I can't even remember if I was able to let 
> anyone here know about it). My first surgery I came out OK but not right, 
> requiring a second that really did some damage but I am one of a very few 
> who have survived everything that happened to me I am told. I am still in a 
> fight trying to recover memories, and some of the very basic abilities I 
> had before like simply playing my guitar for relaxation (I was a 
> professional musician for decades before teaching full time). Administering 
> a network much less teaching others to do so is definitely never going to 
> be an option again (or working for that matter the cloud of confusion is 
> very real. Cognitive abilities tested and with everything else surrounding 
> this I am no longer able to work in any setting. I am now on 
> full disability just trying to write this is taking an eternity). We had an 
> awesome team but it serves as a great example of why not to get married to 
> any platform including Goole. Perhaps if our GG here can be exported that 
> would be wise? We were using something I think G+ or Google+ but whatever 
> it was is now gone and all that was communicated within it. I would hate to 
> see that happen here regardless of platform and know you guys 
> definitely know what's going on now better than I do.
>
> I read these condensed email updates weekly and then only occasionally the 
> full threads within them when I think there might be something I need to 
> know or I can use. I am not sure (memory is really bad) but I think my only 
> posts in the last several years and maybe since my surgeries were just 
> about this particular subject anyway. Fighting change for changes sake and 
> my ability to cope with it LOL. The last thing I would want to see happen 
> and I sure others with similar problems agree would be to see anything 
> hinder TW5 development and beyond. Jermey is the master of making the 
> complicated simple (seriously Jeremy you would make a great teacher if you 
> were not such an awesome developer!) so far all releases have been 
> pretty self explanatory as far as basic functionality goes anyway 
> especially with his release notes and the help he and 

Re: [tw5] tw5-primer v1.0.1 is here!

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Finn
I would recommend separating the color palette from layout (theme)!
Right now, I cannot change the color palette!



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 1:21 AM Finn Lancaster  wrote:

> Earlier today, I released my newest plugin/theme: tw5-primer, using the
> primer.css library. Now, I'm happy to announce v1.0.1 is here, where I have
> built upon the old code to conform with TW standards, as recommended by
> @PMario.
>
> For those of you who haven't already seen it, a demo/install can be found
> at tw5-primer.finnsoftware.net , and its github page is at
> https://github.com/flancast90/tw5-primer.
>
> *What's new?*
> - There is no longer any js portion involved in the theme
> - instead, everything is now CSS as a styles.tid file. This keeps your
> wiki lightning fast, as well as usable in no-internet situations!
> - Theming colors updated: edit area, tags, etc all are different looking
> using a mix of primer classes and my own CSS!
>
> *And one Last Thing:*
> I'm looking to get some others opinions on this; I would like to rename
> the plugin the Charcoal, or perhaps Ebony to reflect its modern feel, but
> would also like to keep the fact that it uses some (not much anymore) code
> from Primer.css, and is based upon it.
>
> What do you guys think? Any different ideas for names?
>
> As usual, if you appreciate my work on this, drop a star at the github:
> https://github.com/flancast90/tw5-primer
>
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[tw5] Re: Transclusion through template --- preserve wikitex formatting

[Eric Shulman]

On Wednesday, August 25, 2021 at 10:39:54 PM UTC-7 Sandip Deshmukh wrote:

> My `ContactInformation'  tiddler contains:
> <$list filter="[contains:participants!sort[on]]">
>   <$link />
>   {{!!text}}
>  
>
The wikitex formatting in 'KG More1' is lost when transcluded.
> How do I ensure that it is preserved?
>

replace {{!!text}} with <$transclude mode="block"/>

enjoy,
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Re: [tw5] "I moved to Discourse" - add your name too?

[Ed Dixon]

Hi Tony,

I honestly didn't read your reply as a complaint but thought mine may have
sounded that way or offended someone. Misunderstandings and confusion are
now a cloud that surrounds not only me but all those who dare try to
interpret what I am attempting to express as well LOL and a good reason to
keep that picture handy! Anyway, after looking at discourse (I hadn't even
peeked) and seeing I can go there and find out what is happening from time
to time without even setting up an account and knowing Jeremy is behind
this, I see nothing to worry about. I like sticking to the core and
avoiding addons as much as possible anyway.

Thanks Jeremy for letting me know what's happening and you are behind this.
I am so sorry to hear you had to deal with this bug! We do not want you in
my shape, get or stay well whichever best applies!

So, If it helps? I have been pretty much just lurking since 2014 when all
this stuff happened to me anyway and regretfully right in the middle of a
group effort with many here to build an add on for TW5 that would fulfill a
very specific need in education and I see has now been done ( a moodle
extension using scorm or whatever they are calling it now)! I am so happy
to see that but feel I had to let down many and regretfully it's of little
use to me now (no longer able to teach). The purpose I had was to use on
very limited tablets, in correctional (prison) systems, to get around the
fact that they had no internet access, only a browser for email, but with
TW5 would be able to pull and receive data from a learning
management server on site which I had already established, allowing
the teacher and student to track progress etc. I do appreciate and
apologize to all here that were in that group when this happened; it did
present capabilities far beyond my use in a greater educational role as
well and we were all very excited about it at the time. My stroke and brain
tumor came out of nowhere (I can't even remember if I was able to let
anyone here know about it). My first surgery I came out OK but not right,
requiring a second that really did some damage but I am one of a very few
who have survived everything that happened to me I am told. I am still in a
fight trying to recover memories, and some of the very basic abilities I
had before like simply playing my guitar for relaxation (I was a
professional musician for decades before teaching full time). Administering
a network much less teaching others to do so is definitely never going to
be an option again (or working for that matter the cloud of confusion is
very real. Cognitive abilities tested and with everything else surrounding
this I am no longer able to work in any setting. I am now on
full disability just trying to write this is taking an eternity). We had an
awesome team but it serves as a great example of why not to get married to
any platform including Goole. Perhaps if our GG here can be exported that
would be wise? We were using something I think G+ or Google+ but whatever
it was is now gone and all that was communicated within it. I would hate to
see that happen here regardless of platform and know you guys
definitely know what's going on now better than I do.

I read these condensed email updates weekly and then only occasionally the
full threads within them when I think there might be something I need to
know or I can use. I am not sure (memory is really bad) but I think my only
posts in the last several years and maybe since my surgeries were just
about this particular subject anyway. Fighting change for changes sake and
my ability to cope with it LOL. The last thing I would want to see happen
and I sure others with similar problems agree would be to see anything
hinder TW5 development and beyond. Jermey is the master of making the
complicated simple (seriously Jeremy you would make a great teacher if you
were not such an awesome developer!) so far all releases have been
pretty self explanatory as far as basic functionality goes anyway
especially with his release notes and the help he and everyone here or
later there in discourse provides. So until I really need to communicate I
will probably just lurk there as I have here and search threads on both to
find answers to any questions I may have. Almost always anything I might
have a question about has already been asked and answered anyway. You guys
are awesome and I want you to know that despite what I can or can not do I
am 100% behind all of you!

Thanks,

On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 7:17 PM TW Tones  wrote:

> Birthe/Strike,
>
> I hope Ed did not think "I thought he was complaining". I think my
> argument points out the new platform will be valuable to everyone, and is
> important, despite the pain of change. In fact it is really important Ed
> and Charlie etc.. understand I will help in any way I can.
>
> Some of these improvements will help reduce cognitive load once we have
> them working, like being able to have a Wiki Post that we can all edit
> which ultimately