[tw] [TWC} Keep these tiddlers linked to this server so that you can synchronise subsequent changes

[Robert Edwards]

Searched but didn't find an answer that I could grok. When importing 
plugins the option in the subject is checked by default. I'm reading in 
various places that there is a backstage sync option, which I can't find. 
Was it removed in more recent versions? (I'm using 2.8.1). How does it work?

Thanks!

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[tw] Re: [TWC} Keep these tiddlers linked to this server so that you can synchronise subsequent changes

[Robert Edwards]

That makes sense, thanks!

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[tw] [TW5] Problem saving in TW5.1.4

[Robert Edwards]

Since upgrading today from 5.1.2 to 5.1.4 I'm sometimes (but not always) 
encountering a problem saving -- I get the following dialog box:

[Exception... Component returned failure code: 0x8052000e 
 (NS_ERROR_FILE_IS_LOCKED) [nsIFileOutputStream.init]  nsresult: 
 0x8052000e (NS_ERROR_FILE_IS_LOCKED)  location: JS frame :: 
 chrome://tiddlyfox/content/overlay.js :: TiddlyFox.saveFile :: line 98  
 data: no]


If I then reload my tw I see that the save did fail -- the new content is 
not there.

I'm on Win7, FF 33.0, TiddlyFox alpha18.

I'm not sure why TF would sometimes think the file is locked. And as I 
said, I *never *got this before the upgrade

I appreciate any and all advice!

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Problem saving in TW5.1.4

[Robert Edwards]

..and I hit Post too quickly. Meant to add: Thanks!!!

On Thursday, October 23, 2014 8:48:59 AM UTC-4, Robert Edwards wrote:

 @Stephan -- No, I hadn't seen that thread. The symptom sounds the same but 
 it's interesting that I never had the issue in TWC, and never in TW5 until 
 yesterday after I upgraded. I think Stephen Kimmel (below) may be on to 
 something.

 @PMario -- No, the TW is local, no Dropbox involved.

 On Thursday, October 23, 2014 5:17:55 AM UTC-4, PMario wrote:


 On Thursday, October 23, 2014 10:56:38 AM UTC+2, Stephan Hradek wrote:

 Did you see this thread: 
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/O_ivNgMyEHw/YQo-9_l7snEJ


 So is your TW in a dropbox folder?
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Problem saving in TW5.1.4

[Robert Edwards]

I have not tried with a fresh empty. I have replicated with a fresh 
upgraded (both upgraded online and by downloading the upgrader and doing it 
locally.)

On Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:21:46 AM UTC-4, PMario wrote:

 Hi Robert,

 Can you replicate the behaviour with a fresh empty.html from 
 tiddlywiki.com?
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Problem saving in TW5.1.4

[Robert Edwards]

I had to reboot my laptop this morning after an unrelated sw update. 
Afterward I reopened my TW and recreated the tiddler I was trying to create 
yesterday -- same title, same content which was copied and pasted from the 
same email as yesterday. It saved just fine this morning.

Very frustrating! I hate intermittent bugs.

On Thursday, October 23, 2014 8:51:44 AM UTC-4, Robert Edwards wrote:

 I have not tried with a fresh empty. I have replicated with a fresh 
 upgraded (both upgraded online and by downloading the upgrader and doing it 
 locally.)

 On Thursday, October 23, 2014 4:21:46 AM UTC-4, PMario wrote:

 Hi Robert,

 Can you replicate the behaviour with a fresh empty.html from 
 tiddlywiki.com?
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[tw] [TW5] Suppressing formatting

[Robert Edwards]

I've searched and experimented but can't find quite the right combination 
of things to do what I want. I'm trying to create a tiddler that looks like 
the following (colored blue here just for clarity):

text

ssh://u...@bogushostname.com

text

I cannot seem to suppress the italicization of everything after the double 
slash. If I do the following:


text

ssh://u...@bogushostname.com

text


I get:

text

ssh:*user@**bogushostname.com text *

(I hope that renders correctly when I post it -- everything after the colon 
is italicized  and the line breaks between the second and third lines are 
removed)

I tried various permutations of tildes and triple-double quotes but no joy. 
Suggestions?

Thanks!



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Re: [tw] [TW5] Suppressing formatting

[Robert Edwards]

Thanks Jeremy!

My actual tiddler is a bit more complicated than the simple example I 
posted but what you've suggested might be workaround.

Cheers!

On Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:19:35 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Robert

 The usual way to handle this is to use a monospaced block for the command 
 line:

 text texttext texttext texttext texttext texttext texttext text

 ```
 ssh://us...@bogushostname.com javascript:
 ```

 text texttext texttext texttext texttext texttext texttext text

 Would that meet your needs?

 Best wishes

 Jeremy


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 javascript: wrote:

 I've searched and experimented but can't find quite the right combination 
 of things to do what I want. I'm trying to create a tiddler that looks like 
 the following (colored blue here just for clarity):

 text

 ssh://u...@bogushostname.com

 text

 I cannot seem to suppress the italicization of everything after the 
 double slash. If I do the following:

 
 text

 ssh://us...@bogushostname.com javascript:

 text
 

 I get:

 text

 ssh:*user@**bogushostname.com http://hostname.com text *

 (I hope that renders correctly when I post it -- everything after the 
 colon is italicized  and the line breaks between the second and third lines 
 are removed)

 I tried various permutations of tildes and triple-double quotes but no 
 joy. Suggestions?

 Thanks!



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Re: [tw] [TW5] Suppressing formatting

[Robert Edwards]

Hmm -- not sure if this is a bug. the three backticks have to be preceded 
by two newlines. This works as expected:

 clone from

 ```
 ssh://h...@repolocationbogus.com
 ```
 Lorum ipsum



But this does not:

 clone from
 ```
 ssh://h...@repolocationbogus.com
 ```
 Lorum ipsum


The latter yields (approximately):

 clone from ` 
 ssh://h...@repolocationbogus.com 

 Lorum ipsum


In the latter case, in my TW the code-block-interpreted part gets rendered 
in this pinky-red color. The red text also has the code-block boxes around 
it, including the one backtick on the first line. The former case does not 
get colorized when rendered and only the second line gets rendered in 
monospace.
 
I noticed in your example you have the two newlines before the first set of 
backticks. Is that correctly required? The docs here:
http://tiddlywiki.com/static/Code%2520Blocks%2520in%2520WikiText.html
...say only that the backticks must be at the start of the line and 
immediately followed by a newline.

Thanks for your help! I'm having a bit of a struggle transitioning from TWC 
to TW5 and I appreciate the hand-holding!

On Thursday, October 23, 2014 3:19:35 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Robert

 The usual way to handle this is to use a monospaced block for the command 
 line:

 text texttext texttext texttext texttext texttext texttext text

 ```
 ssh://us...@bogushostname.com javascript:
 ```

 text texttext texttext texttext texttext texttext texttext text

 Would that meet your needs?

 Best wishes

 Jeremy


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 javascript: wrote:

 I've searched and experimented but can't find quite the right combination 
 of things to do what I want. I'm trying to create a tiddler that looks like 
 the following (colored blue here just for clarity):

 text

 ssh://u...@bogushostname.com

 text

 I cannot seem to suppress the italicization of everything after the 
 double slash. If I do the following:

 
 text

 ssh://us...@bogushostname.com javascript:

 text
 

 I get:

 text

 ssh:*user@**bogushostname.com http://hostname.com text *

 (I hope that renders correctly when I post it -- everything after the 
 colon is italicized  and the line breaks between the second and third lines 
 are removed)

 I tried various permutations of tildes and triple-double quotes but no 
 joy. Suggestions?

 Thanks!



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Re: [tw] [TW5] Suppressing formatting

[Robert Edwards]

Makes sense. Perhaps a note could be added in the docs mentioning that? As 
I mentioned in the other post, the docs say only that the triple-backticks  
must be at the beginning of a line and followed by a newline, not that they 
must also be preceded by a newline.

Cheers!


On Thursday, October 23, 2014 7:37:08 PM UTC-4, PMario wrote:


 On Thursday, October 23, 2014 10:04:59 PM UTC+2, Robert Edwards wrote:

 I noticed in your example you have the two newlines before the first set 
 of backticks. Is that correctly required? The docs here:


 yes. That's required for TW5 paragraph handling. So if there is no double 
 linebreak, TW parser things everything belongs together. 

 clone from ... will be a paragraph

 ```
 ssh: ...   will be a precode block
 ```

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Suppressing formatting

[Robert Edwards]

That makes is clearer. Thanks!

On Friday, October 24, 2014 9:50:59 AM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Robert

 This stuff gets tricky to explain. The problem with the following example 
 isn't so much that there's a line break missing before the three backticks, 
 as that the previous paragraph needs a terminating double line break in 
 order for it to be recognised as a paragraph:

 text of previous paragraph
 ```
 monospaced
 ```

 I've done my best to clarify things here:


 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/2bc9a7b1150fe30b9607ee24887bbab609a2b851

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.



 On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Robert Edwards rced...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Makes sense. Perhaps a note could be added in the docs mentioning that? 
 As I mentioned in the other post, the docs say only that the 
 triple-backticks  must be at the beginning of a line and followed by a 
 newline, not that they must also be preceded by a newline.

 Cheers!



 On Thursday, October 23, 2014 7:37:08 PM UTC-4, PMario wrote:


 On Thursday, October 23, 2014 10:04:59 PM UTC+2, Robert Edwards wrote:

 I noticed in your example you have the two newlines before the first 
 set of backticks. Is that correctly required? The docs here:


 yes. That's required for TW5 paragraph handling. So if there is no 
 double linebreak, TW parser things everything belongs together. 

 clone from ... will be a paragraph

 ```
 ssh: ...   will be a precode block
 ```

 -m 




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[tw] Re: One TiddlyWiki or Many

[Robert Edwards]

I've mostly worked in TWC but I'm trying to migrate to TW5 to be more 
future-proof. But I've got several TWCs that I use. One is a catch-all 
notebook, one is a journal, and one or two are TWC-based apps.

One thing that I've noticed though is that there seems to be some 
crosstalk in the setting between them. E.g. I've got two that are based 
on MPTW. One uses the MPTW trim theme and is in my Dropbox so that I can 
use TWITS and get to it from anywhere. Because I don't want to fill up my 
DB with TW backups I've disabled SaveBackups. The other is used strictly on 
my Mac and is in normal, local  storage so I have SaveBackups on, and 
because it's for a different purpose I have a different theme.

I find that if I open the local one, the DB one will change themes and 
toggle SaveBackups to match the local one. When I then open the DB from my 
phone, it's got the settings of the local one. Very odd.

Are any of you who use multiple TWCs seeing anything similar?

On Friday, October 24, 2014 10:26:23 AM UTC-4, Captain Packers wrote:

 I'm just wondering what MO people have adopted as best practice and why. 
 Do you use a single TiddlyWiki for everything, or do you have a virtual 
 web of multiple TiddlyWikis that you jump around in.

 I see the benefit of a single TiddlyWiki as being the search ability and 
 non-linear convenience and approach around which TiddlyWiki was built. My 
 concern about a single TiddlyWiki is the eventual size that it might attain 
 and related performance issues, especially if you start embedding and 
 attaching files internally (TW5).

 With a web of TiddlyWikis, they could be kept small, but you might 
 sacrifice some of the search ability of TiddlyWiki.

 I'm using TiddlyWiki mostly for journaling my workflow.

 I would like to know how others are doing this.

 Thanks in advance.

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[tw] Re: Illness

[Robert Edwards]

May you be well soon!

On Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 1:15:18 PM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

  I'm sorry to say that I've been whizzed to hospital with what has turned 
 out to be pneumonia. No fun at all. I'll be here for a couple more days and 
 so 
 will have to postpone Tuesday's hangout.
  
 Best wishes

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[tw] Re: TW group welcome message might need an update?

[Robert Edwards]

...and for that matter on the welcome tiddler, it could say something like, 
"Hello! This is the community documentation for Tiddlywiki Classic. In 2015 
Tiddlywiki received a ground-up rewrite -- that project is called 
Tiddlywiki 5 and can be found at tiddlywiki.com". Again, just to make as 
obvious as possible to folks who may not have know about tiddlywiki 15 
minutes prior to landing on that page

On Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 9:52:56 AM UTC-4, Robert Edwards wrote:
>
> I can be pretty dense some times and I generally assume I'm in no way 
> special, therefore other people can be pretty dense at times as well. So to 
> make it abundantly obvious to people like me, why not change the name of 
> the link and the linked-to page from "TiddlyWiki Community Documentation" 
> <http://www.tiddlywiki.org> to "TiddlyWiki Classic Community Documentation 
> <http://www.tiddlywiki.org>"? I know it says "For Classic" on this 
> page and "For TW <=2.8.1" on the doc page, but the link and the title are 
> going to be the first things people look at. I do agree with keeping the 
> Classic docs linked -- as long as classic is still in use then it's 
> beneficial to keep around. And as a user of both classic and tw5, I know I 
> look at it from time to time
>
> On Friday, October 2, 2015 at 1:48:10 PM UTC-4, Eric Shulman wrote:
>>
>> They are not two separate applications.  Nearly everything in Tiddlywiki5 
>> is based on funtionality initially developed in Tiddlywiki Classic.  Just 
>> because *you* don't use TWC doesn't mean that we should push 10 years of 
>> valuable discussions off to the side.  If we had wanted to do that, we 
>> would have started a new group just for TW5.  Before you summarily dismiss 
>> TWC as irrelevant to TW5 discussions, you should consider the fact that 
>> most of the requests for new features in TW5 are based on what has already 
>> been done as plugins in TWC.  You could learn a lot by getting to know TWC 
>> and it's rich eco-system of plugins, themes, etc.
>>
>> -e 
>>
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[tw] Re: TW group welcome message might need an update?

[Robert Edwards]

I can be pretty dense some times and I generally assume I'm in no way 
special, therefore other people can be pretty dense at times as well. So to 
make it abundantly obvious to people like me, why not change the name of 
the link and the linked-to page from "TiddlyWiki Community Documentation" 
 to "TiddlyWiki Classic Community Documentation 
"? I know it says "For Classic" on this page 
and "For TW <=2.8.1" on the doc page, but the link and the title are going 
to be the first things people look at. I do agree with keeping the Classic 
docs linked -- as long as classic is still in use then it's beneficial to 
keep around. And as a user of both classic and tw5, I know I look at it 
from time to time

On Friday, October 2, 2015 at 1:48:10 PM UTC-4, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> They are not two separate applications.  Nearly everything in Tiddlywiki5 
> is based on funtionality initially developed in Tiddlywiki Classic.  Just 
> because *you* don't use TWC doesn't mean that we should push 10 years of 
> valuable discussions off to the side.  If we had wanted to do that, we 
> would have started a new group just for TW5.  Before you summarily dismiss 
> TWC as irrelevant to TW5 discussions, you should consider the fact that 
> most of the requests for new features in TW5 are based on what has already 
> been done as plugins in TWC.  You could learn a lot by getting to know TWC 
> and it's rich eco-system of plugins, themes, etc.
>
> -e 
>

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Re: [tw] TW group welcome message might need an update?

[Robert Edwards]

Thanks!

On Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 1:37:21 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Robert
>
> I’ve made some changes to the introduction tiddler at 
> http://tiddlywiki.org along the lines you suggested,
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Jeremy.
>
> On 3 Oct 2015, at 15:47, Robert Edwards <rced...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
> ...and for that matter on the welcome tiddler, it could say something 
> like, "Hello! This is the community documentation for Tiddlywiki Classic. 
> In 2015 Tiddlywiki received a ground-up rewrite -- that project is called 
> Tiddlywiki 5 and can be found at tiddlywiki.com". Again, just to make as 
> obvious as possible to folks who may not have know about tiddlywiki 15 
> minutes prior to landing on that page
>
> On Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 9:52:56 AM UTC-4, Robert Edwards wrote:
>>
>> I can be pretty dense some times and I generally assume I'm in no way 
>> special, therefore other people can be pretty dense at times as well. So to 
>> make it abundantly obvious to people like me, why not change the name of 
>> the link and the linked-to page from "TiddlyWiki Community Documentation" 
>> <http://www.tiddlywiki.org/> to "TiddlyWiki Classic Community 
>> Documentation <http://www.tiddlywiki.org/>"? I know it says "For 
>> Classic" on this page and "For TW <=2.8.1" on the doc page, but the 
>> link and the title are going to be the first things people look at. I do 
>> agree with keeping the Classic docs linked -- as long as classic is still 
>> in use then it's beneficial to keep around. And as a user of both classic 
>> and tw5, I know I look at it from time to time
>>
>> On Friday, October 2, 2015 at 1:48:10 PM UTC-4, Eric Shulman wrote:
>>>
>>> They are not two separate applications.  Nearly everything in 
>>> Tiddlywiki5 is based on funtionality initially developed in Tiddlywiki 
>>> Classic.  Just because *you* don't use TWC doesn't mean that we should push 
>>> 10 years of valuable discussions off to the side.  If we had wanted to do 
>>> that, we would have started a new group just for TW5.  Before you summarily 
>>> dismiss TWC as irrelevant to TW5 discussions, you should consider the fact 
>>> that most of the requests for new features in TW5 are based on what has 
>>> already been done as plugins in TWC.  You could learn a lot by getting to 
>>> know TWC and it's rich eco-system of plugins, themes, etc.
>>>
>>> -e 
>>>
>>
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Re: [tw] [TW5] Suppressing formatting

[Robert Edwards]

Interesting discussion on Github -- thanks for the link. Eric's suggestion 
solved my immediate problem, and I sincerely appreciate his help! However 
as y'all discussed on Github I do think a simpler syntax would be helpful.

Cheers!

On Wednesday, September 23, 2015 at 8:29:13 AM UTC-4, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Hi Metabele,
>  
>
>> I think you can use 4 single quotes between the slashes // which 
>> renders as //
>>
>
> As said on Github 
> ,
>  
> to me, the idea is to not at all mess about with the text that you just 
> want as-is.
> It might be long, it might be from somewhere else, it might update, it 
> might have tons of code, whichever.
> You want it look like regular text, not like a code-block, not like a 
> codeline, just text.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> — tb
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Re: [tw] [TW5] Suppressing formatting

[Robert Edwards]

That works. Thanks!

On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 8:20:36 PM UTC-4, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 5:04:15 PM UTC-7, Robert Edwards wrote:
>>
>> Anyway, suppose I want to have double-slashes in the body of a paragraph, 
>> and I don't want the paragraph formatted as block text (i.e. no font 
>> differences) e.g.:
>> Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Vivamus augue 
>> urna, scelerisque vel pulvinar eget, tincidunt vitae tellus. Etiam at 
>> hendrerit lacus. Vivamus pulvinar porta lacinia. Apple //e Proin a lorem 
>> bibendum, egestas ipsum ut, accumsan quam. Vivamus sagittis laoreet ex in 
>> ullamcorper. Phasellus rhoncus orci condimentum orci aliquet, quis 
>> consectetur mauris vehicula. Sed nec eleifend felis. 
>> (Text made red for emphasis but would be black in my tiddler). Any way to 
>> do this?
>>
>
> You can use the <$text> widget, like this:
> <$text text="Apple //e" />
>
> -e
>
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Re: [tw] [TW5] Suppressing formatting

[Robert Edwards]

Since this is somewhat related to the previous question I'll reply to my 
old post and add on to this thread. In the future someone might find both 
questions useful...

Anyway, suppose I want to have double-slashes in the body of a paragraph, 
and I don't want the paragraph formatted as block text (i.e. no font 
differences) e.g.:

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Vivamus augue 
urna, scelerisque vel pulvinar eget, tincidunt vitae tellus. Etiam at 
hendrerit lacus. Vivamus pulvinar porta lacinia. Apple //e Proin a lorem 
bibendum, egestas ipsum ut, accumsan quam. Vivamus sagittis laoreet ex in 
ullamcorper. Phasellus rhoncus orci condimentum orci aliquet, quis 
consectetur mauris vehicula. Sed nec eleifend felis. 

(Text made red for emphasis but would be black in my tiddler). Any way to 
do this?

Thanks

On Friday, October 24, 2014 at 10:25:38 AM UTC-4, Robert Edwards wrote:
>
> That makes is clearer. Thanks!
>
> On Friday, October 24, 2014 9:50:59 AM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Hi Robert
>>
>> This stuff gets tricky to explain. The problem with the following example 
>> isn't so much that there's a line break missing before the three backticks, 
>> as that the previous paragraph needs a terminating double line break in 
>> order for it to be recognised as a paragraph:
>>
>> text of previous paragraph
>> ```
>> monospaced
>> ```
>>
>> I've done my best to clarify things here:
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/2bc9a7b1150fe30b9607ee24887bbab609a2b851
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Robert Edwards <rced...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Makes sense. Perhaps a note could be added in the docs mentioning that? 
>>> As I mentioned in the other post, the docs say only that the 
>>> triple-backticks  must be at the beginning of a line and followed by a 
>>> newline, not that they must also be preceded by a newline.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 23, 2014 7:37:08 PM UTC-4, PMario wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, October 23, 2014 10:04:59 PM UTC+2, Robert Edwards wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I noticed in your example you have the two newlines before the first 
>>>>> set of backticks. Is that correctly required? The docs here:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> yes. That's required for TW5 paragraph handling. So if there is no 
>>>> double linebreak, TW parser things everything belongs together. 
>>>>
>>>> clone from ... will be a paragraph
>>>>
>>>> ```
>>>> ssh: ...   will be a  block
>>>> ```
>>>>
>>>> -m 
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
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>> mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com
>>
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[tw] [TWC] Line breaks between consecutive sliders

[Robert Edwards]

I've searched but cannot find an answer to a little annoyance.  I'm using 
David Szego's dGSD and would like to have some lists hidden in sliders -- 
e.g. in a Projects dashboard have dormant and completed project lists 
collapsed.

{{col{
<>


<>



<>

}}}

What I find is that when the sliders are collapsed, the buttons are 
rendered on the same line. I would like to have them on separate lines. 
When the first button is expanded the second button appears below, on a 
separate line, but I have not yet stumbled on the syntax to force a line 
break between the two collapsed slider buttons. 

Help greatly appreciated!

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[tw] Re: [TWC] Line breaks between consecutive sliders

[Robert Edwards]

Thanks -- that's something I tried but it did not work. Sorry for not 
mentioning it in the original post! 

On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 4:29:55 PM UTC-5, Mat wrote:
>
> Perhaps just a html linebreak tag? Is it  or  or some such?
>
> <:-)
>
> On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 10:24:21 PM UTC+1, Robert Edwards wrote:
>>
>> I've searched but cannot find an answer to a little annoyance.  I'm using 
>> David Szego's dGSD and would like to have some lists hidden in sliders -- 
>> e.g. in a Projects dashboard have dormant and completed project lists 
>> collapsed.
>>
>> {{col{
>> <> startTag:Project 
>> tags:'Someday/Maybe && !Complete' 
>> view:Project 
>> mode:global
>> group:Area
>> gView:bold
>> newButtonTags:'Project Someday/Maybe'
>> >>
>>
>> 
>> <> startTag:Project 
>> tags:'Complete' 
>> view:Project mode:global
>> dontShowEmpty:yes
>> group:Area
>> gView:bold
>> >>
>> 
>>
>> 
>> <> startTag:Project 
>> tags:'Dormant && !Complete' 
>> view:Project mode:global
>> group:Area
>> gView:bold
>> dontShowEmpty:yes
>> >>
>> 
>> }}}
>>
>> What I find is that when the sliders are collapsed, the buttons are 
>> rendered on the same line. I would like to have them on separate lines. 
>> When the first button is expanded the second button appears below, on a 
>> separate line, but I have not yet stumbled on the syntax to force a line 
>> break between the two collapsed slider buttons. 
>>
>> Help greatly appreciated!
>>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyFox is not signed and may not work in the future

[Robert Edwards]

I see there's a new FF today (47) and one of the mentioned changes is in 
add-on compatibility:
https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2016/04/07/compatibility-for-firefox-47/

I'm reluctant to upgrade without some confidence TiddlyFox will continue to 
work. Any insights?

Thanks!

On Wednesday, June 1, 2016 at 1:02:07 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> TiddlyFox is signed by Mozilla as part of the distribution process. It may 
> be that the updated way of signing extensions that they recently introduced 
> only works on recent versions of FF.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
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> http://jermolene.com
>
> On 1 Jun 2016, at 17:58, Josiah  wrote:
>
> Its essential it always works & is signed. Its a bit of a burden on TW 
> developers as the Firefox approval system is a pain. But it has always 
> worked for me (now on 46.0.1, on PC). the latest is here ...
>
>https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tiddlyfox/
>
> On Wednesday, 1 June 2016 18:31:48 UTC+2, Chuck R. wrote:
>>
>> I have Firefox 43.0. For some odd reason, many of my add-ons decided not 
>> to work because they were not signed by Mozilla. Will someone be uploading 
>> a signed version of TiddlyFox in the near future? I find it very useful. 
>>
>> Thanks.
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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyFox is not signed and may not work in the future

[Robert Edwards]

Great to know -- thanks!

On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 6:00:51 PM UTC-4, c pa wrote:
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> I have 47 it saves just fine.
>

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[tw] Re: [TWC] Line breaks between consecutive sliders

[Robert Edwards]

No one?

Here's what I'm trying to fix:


<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0pkd5cGcjW8/VpaksEAcD8I/BmI/02_OL7EiikM/s1600/project_dashboard.png>
I would prefer those two sliders to be on consecutive lines

Thanks!

On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 4:59:02 PM UTC-5, Robert Edwards wrote:
>
> Thanks -- that's something I tried but it did not work. Sorry for not 
> mentioning it in the original post! 
>
> On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 4:29:55 PM UTC-5, Mat wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps just a html linebreak tag? Is it  or  or some such?
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>> On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 10:24:21 PM UTC+1, Robert Edwards wrote:
>>>
>>> I've searched but cannot find an answer to a little annoyance.  I'm 
>>> using David Szego's dGSD and would like to have some lists hidden in 
>>> sliders -- e.g. in a Projects dashboard have dormant and completed project 
>>> lists collapsed.
>>>
>>> {{col{
>>> <>> startTag:Project 
>>> tags:'Someday/Maybe && !Complete' 
>>> view:Project 
>>> mode:global
>>> group:Area
>>> gView:bold
>>> newButtonTags:'Project Someday/Maybe'
>>> >>
>>>
>>> 
>>> <>> startTag:Project 
>>> tags:'Complete' 
>>> view:Project mode:global
>>> dontShowEmpty:yes
>>> group:Area
>>> gView:bold
>>> >>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>> <>> startTag:Project 
>>> tags:'Dormant && !Complete' 
>>> view:Project mode:global
>>> group:Area
>>> gView:bold
>>> dontShowEmpty:yes
>>> >>
>>> 
>>> }}}
>>>
>>> What I find is that when the sliders are collapsed, the buttons are 
>>> rendered on the same line. I would like to have them on separate lines. 
>>> When the first button is expanded the second button appears below, on a 
>>> separate line, but I have not yet stumbled on the syntax to force a line 
>>> break between the two collapsed slider buttons. 
>>>
>>> Help greatly appreciated!
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: [TWC] Line breaks between consecutive sliders

[Robert Edwards]

Thanks Tobias but you're stepping out of my realm of experience. Will need 
to consider this a bit

On Thursday, January 14, 2016 at 4:53:00 PM UTC-5, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> I'd recommend using a
>
> {{classWrapper{
> content
> }}}
>
> and the appropriate styles in your StyleSheet tiddler.
>
> Tobias
>
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[tw] Re: [TWC] Line breaks between consecutive sliders

[Robert Edwards]

@cmari -- as far as I can recall, yes. It's on my work PC and I'm at home 
now but will verify.

@Eric -- thanks! I'll give that a try!


On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 3:56:34 PM UTC-5, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 11:27:17 AM UTC-8, Robert Edwards wrote:
>>
>> I would prefer those two sliders to be on consecutive lines
>>
>  
> Try this:
> @@display:block;<>display:block;<>@@
>
> i.e., use CSS to wrap each slider in it's own DIV:
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>

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[tw] Re: [TWC] Line breaks between consecutive sliders

[Robert Edwards]

@cmari -- yes, on latest. It's a bit confusing b/c the "loaded" seems to be 
one rev older than the "empty". I could not recall which I started with. In 
mine I find that if I post the code snippet I posted above by itself like 
you I also get line breaks. However that's not the entire tiddler, rather 
it's the second of two columns. In the full tiddler they render side by 
side.

@Eric -- thanks! That puts them on separate lines. Having now seen them on 
consecutive lines I'd now like whitespace between them, i.e. another blank 
line. Seems to put me right back where I started, wanting a line break and 
not able to create it. Grrr! I tried inserting a  between the divs, 
inserting within the divs, putting in its own div, etc but haven't found a 
formula that works. I know, picky picky, picky Here's the current 
appearance:


<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-d8gA_EDHS08/Vpe3Zo6_gpI/Bms/PVzTWZryqwY/s1600/Rob%2527s%2BdGSD%2B-%2BOn%2Ba%2Broll%2B-%2BMozilla%2BFirefox_2016-01-14_09-55-03.png>


Cheers!

On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 7:02:27 PM UTC-5, Robert Edwards wrote:
>
> @cmari -- as far as I can recall, yes. It's on my work PC and I'm at home 
> now but will verify.
>
> @Eric -- thanks! I'll give that a try!
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 3:56:34 PM UTC-5, Eric Shulman wrote:
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 13, 2016 at 11:27:17 AM UTC-8, Robert Edwards wrote:
>>>
>>> I would prefer those two sliders to be on consecutive lines
>>>
>>  
>> Try this:
>> @@display:block;<>display:block;<>@@
>>
>> i.e., use CSS to wrap each slider in it's own DIV:
>>
>> enjoy,
>> -e
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Codemirror Documentation

[Robert Edwards]

I realize I'm replying to an old post.

I've just run across this discussion and reference to CodeMirror it looks 
intriguing but I'm also having great difficulty figure out what I can do 
with it and *how*. For instance Danielo mentions in this post to which I'm 
replying that perhaps Stephen is in vi(m) editing mode. How would I enable 
that? I use vim day-to-day and it would make my life easier to use it in TW!

What documentation I've found so far has been either sparse, somewhat 
obtuse, or (e.g. the official CM docs) too generic for me to understand how 
it works specifically in the context of TW.

Thanks!

On Wednesday, October 1, 2014 at 1:04:59 PM UTC-4, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:
>
> Hello Stephen, 
>
> Please download this repository as zip and check it out. There are several 
> ready to test tiddlywiky files with different implementations of Codemirror 
> :
>
> https://github.com/danielo515/TW5-CodemirrorPluginTest
>
> They are pretty old, but maybe can help you to see it is useful for you. 
>
> The reason you can not write is probably because you have vim mode 
> selected. Try hitting the i key. Or you can just remove the key mapping 
> from the config Codemirror plugin. 
>
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[tw] Re: Codemirror Documentation

[Robert Edwards]

Thanks BJ & Hegart.

I managed to get vi mode working. One gotcha I've found is that to change 
modes in vi from insertion to command, the key is the escape key. This is 
also the key TW uses to abandon a tiddler. It brings up an "Abandon changes 
to this tiddler?" dialog. If I cancel it, it returns me to the editor but 
fortunately also switches to command. Annoying but liveable I think.

On Thursday, March 31, 2016 at 4:07:49 PM UTC-4, BJ wrote:
>
> Hi Robert,
>
> you need to look at the tiddler $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/usage to 
> see how to setup using a config tiddler ($:/config/CodeMirror),
>
> However, the external files mentioned are not the correct ones for the 
> version used in the tw plugin (which is 4.1.1)
>
> in place of files like
> http://codemirror.net/addon/edit/closebrackets.js
> you need to use
>
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/codemirror/CodeMirror/295c1aff82ad31e465c7ba391dde51d818b45a7c/addon/edit/closebrackets.js
>
> all the best
> BJ
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 30, 2016 at 7:56:12 PM UTC+1, Robert Edwards wrote:
>>
>> I realize I'm replying to an old post.
>>
>> I've just run across this discussion and reference to CodeMirror it looks 
>> intriguing but I'm also having great difficulty figure out what I can do 
>> with it and *how*. For instance Danielo mentions in this post to which 
>> I'm replying that perhaps Stephen is in vi(m) editing mode. How would I 
>> enable that? I use vim day-to-day and it would make my life easier to use 
>> it in TW!
>>
>> What documentation I've found so far has been either sparse, somewhat 
>> obtuse, or (e.g. the official CM docs) too generic for me to understand how 
>> it works specifically in the context of TW.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 1, 2014 at 1:04:59 PM UTC-4, Danielo Rodríguez 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Stephen, 
>>>
>>> Please download this repository as zip and check it out. There are 
>>> several ready to test tiddlywiky files with different implementations of 
>>> Codemirror :
>>>
>>> https://github.com/danielo515/TW5-CodemirrorPluginTest
>>>
>>> They are pretty old, but maybe can help you to see it is useful for you. 
>>>
>>> The reason you can not write is probably because you have vim mode 
>>> selected. Try hitting the i key. Or you can just remove the key mapping 
>>> from the config Codemirror plugin. 
>>>
>>>

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[tw] Re: Codemirror Documentation

[Robert Edwards]

Good to know. I'll have to see how successful I'll be adapting to changing 
it after using escape in vi for 20 years (and still using it in "real vi")

On Friday, April 1, 2016 at 5:55:43 PM UTC-4, BJ wrote:
>
> Good stuff. The keyboard shortcut for cancel edit is control via this 
> tiddler
>
> $:/config/shortcuts/cancel-edit-tiddler
>
>
> all the best
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, April 1, 2016 at 9:34:17 PM UTC+1, Robert Edwards wrote:
>>
>> Thanks BJ & Hegart.
>>
>> I managed to get vi mode working. One gotcha I've found is that to change 
>> modes in vi from insertion to command, the key is the escape key. This is 
>> also the key TW uses to abandon a tiddler. It brings up an "Abandon changes 
>> to this tiddler?" dialog. If I cancel it, it returns me to the editor but 
>> fortunately also switches to command. Annoying but liveable I think.
>>
>> On Thursday, March 31, 2016 at 4:07:49 PM UTC-4, BJ wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Robert,
>>>
>>> you need to look at the tiddler $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/usage 
>>> to see how to setup using a config tiddler ($:/config/CodeMirror),
>>>
>>> However, the external files mentioned are not the correct ones for the 
>>> version used in the tw plugin (which is 4.1.1)
>>>
>>> in place of files like
>>> http://codemirror.net/addon/edit/closebrackets.js
>>> you need to use
>>>
>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/codemirror/CodeMirror/295c1aff82ad31e465c7ba391dde51d818b45a7c/addon/edit/closebrackets.js
>>>
>>> all the best
>>> BJ
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 30, 2016 at 7:56:12 PM UTC+1, Robert Edwards wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I realize I'm replying to an old post.
>>>>
>>>> I've just run across this discussion and reference to CodeMirror it 
>>>> looks intriguing but I'm also having great difficulty figure out what I 
>>>> can 
>>>> do with it and *how*. For instance Danielo mentions in this post to 
>>>> which I'm replying that perhaps Stephen is in vi(m) editing mode. How 
>>>> would 
>>>> I enable that? I use vim day-to-day and it would make my life easier to 
>>>> use 
>>>> it in TW!
>>>>
>>>> What documentation I've found so far has been either sparse, somewhat 
>>>> obtuse, or (e.g. the official CM docs) too generic for me to understand 
>>>> how 
>>>> it works specifically in the context of TW.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, October 1, 2014 at 1:04:59 PM UTC-4, Danielo Rodríguez 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Stephen, 
>>>>>
>>>>> Please download this repository as zip and check it out. There are 
>>>>> several ready to test tiddlywiky files with different implementations of 
>>>>> Codemirror :
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/danielo515/TW5-CodemirrorPluginTest
>>>>>
>>>>> They are pretty old, but maybe can help you to see it is useful for 
>>>>> you. 
>>>>>
>>>>> The reason you can not write is probably because you have vim mode 
>>>>> selected. Try hitting the i key. Or you can just remove the key mapping 
>>>>> from the config Codemirror plugin. 
>>>>>
>>>>>

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[tw] [TWC] dGSD config question

[Robert Edwards]

Hi everyone -- I'm beginning to pull my hair out. Somewhere within dGSD is 
a config tiddler with checkboxes to enable/disable showing full names of 
projects & areas associated with actions, vs just showing [P] if there is a 
project and/or [A] if there's an area. I've been looking for this setting 
for three days. If anyone could point me to it I will be very grateful!

A more complex question -- I've also been playing with css to try to 
prevent linebreaks after actions before the project or area. dGSD has 
linebreaks; mgtd does not. I prefer the mgtd behavior. So far I've been 
unsuccessful in suppressing the linebreaks though. But my css knowledge is 
limited so that's no big surprise. Any suggestions welcomed.

Thanks!

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[tw] Re: [TWC] dGSD config question

[Robert Edwards]

Found the rule that's adding the line break. It's:

.dGSDInboxList .innerList .innerListItem .plain,.dGSDInboxList .innerList 
.innerListItem .tableWrapper,.dGSDList .innerList .innerListItem 
.plain,.dGSDList .innerList .innerListItem .tableWrapper {display: 
table;}
>
>
If I disable that rule on the .tableWrapper via FF's Inspector tool the 
line break goes away. However I've not found the right incantation to put 
in StyleSheet to override it. (Nor do I know what ill effects doing so 
might have elsewhere) 

On Tuesday, June 28, 2016 at 2:21:52 AM UTC-4, Leo Staley wrote:
>
> I mostly use my own mashup tiddlywiki which uses stuff from everywhere, 
> but I've dabbled quite a bit in dGSD, and I'll give it a look. It's great 
> to see other active TWC users around here!
>
> On Monday, June 27, 2016 at 6:08:26 AM UTC-7, Robert Edwards wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone -- I'm beginning to pull my hair out. Somewhere within dGSD 
>> is a config tiddler with checkboxes to enable/disable showing full names of 
>> projects & areas associated with actions, vs just showing [P] if there is a 
>> project and/or [A] if there's an area. I've been looking for this setting 
>> for three days. If anyone could point me to it I will be very grateful!
>>
>> --
>> *[EDIT] *Found it! I'll post this to perhaps help someone in the future. 
>> The checkbox is in the tiddler dgsdSettings. However dgsdSettings had the 
>> tag "excludeSearch" so when I attempted to find it, it was not included in 
>> my search results. 
>>
>> I've not yet found a solution to the below question though
>> --
>>
>> A more complex question -- I've also been playing with css to try to 
>> prevent linebreaks after actions before the project or area. dGSD has 
>> linebreaks; mgtd does not. I prefer the mgtd behavior. So far I've been 
>> unsuccessful in suppressing the linebreaks though. But my css knowledge is 
>> limited so that's no big surprise. Any suggestions welcomed.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: TW5 eBook pre-release of "Spiritual Quest" - free copy.

[Robert Edwards]

Hi John -- I'd be interested in looking at this book but the links in the 
original post no longer work. Are there alternative links?

Thanks!

On Monday, September 12, 2016 at 11:05:57 PM UTC-4, John Newell wrote:
>
> Hello to the wider tiddlywiki community - and thanks to the many who have 
> helped in various ways.
> The EPUB version is now selling and the TW5 version will be hot on its 
> heels after a get a few "kinks" ironed out
>
> In the meantime - here's TW version - https://payhip.com/b/JLBv
> The (finalised ) ePUB version - for comparison etc - here at a nominal 
> price https://payhip.com/b/jVTJ 
>
>
> ===
> Here are the differences & advantages TW ebooks provide
> over the ePUB format ... and of course PDF.
>
> https://socialas.padlet.org/socialasadmin/15dqxublw2jf
> ===
>
> The Spiritual Quest ePUB content is "almost" exactly the same as that of 
> the TW ebook - 
> but with TWebook  the delivery, navigation ( & navigability ) , imagery, 
> readability, tag links etc 
> all create a very different reading experience
> ( and audio playing WITHIN the TW version ) - 
>
> *need to be internet connected for that to be active.There is ALSO a 
> bunch of LIVE PAGES in the final edit that present new and extended content 
> c/- embeds that look better also in TW5*
> Feedback welcome
>
>
>
> cheers and thanks - John Newell ( on behalf of my beautiful wife, the 
> author - Sandy Lee )
>

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[tw] Re: Usable (pre-beta) version of Cardo - a new TW5 for Getting Things Done

[Robert Edwards]

Hi David,

Great work. I'm playing with it now. The first hurdle that I immediately 
run into is a migration path from my well-used, well-populated TWC dGSD to 
Cardo. Even if I import the tiddlers into Cardo they are in the wrong 
format so don't work. A migration tool would be very helpful. Right now all 
I can see to do is to abandon my dGSD in place and start clean with Cardo, 
or laboriously convert/reenter everything by hand. (Once I figure out 
Cardo's basic usage, that is) I realize such a tool is a huge request! 
Or is there something that currently exists?

Speaking of usage, I've not yet even grokked how to do the simplest things. 
For example you mention editing the Review tiddler to see your tasks. What 
do you mean "edit" -- actually change the code in the body of the tiddler? 
Replace the "Cardo" tag with my name? Something else? I haven't found 
anything that works yet

Thanks! I'm looking forward to actually using it!


On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 7:09:22 PM UTC-4, David Szego wrote:
>
> Hi all!
>
> So, about a month after my first announcement, I've now got a very usable 
> version of Cardo (dGSD for TW5) to share at 
>
> http://cardo.wiki
>
> Like my older dGSD for TW Classic, and mGSD before it, you can track 
> projects, tasks, meetings, agenda items, people, contact info, and 
> conversation logs. It's even nice and responsive for tablet or large-phone 
> use.
>
> There are a good few bugs yet, but nothing that would prevent you from 
> using it daily.
>
> Hoping for some good feedback! Be critical, and tell me your use cases so 
> I can get a sense of how to make it work more practically for you.
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
>

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[tw] Re: Usable (pre-beta) version of Cardo - a new TW5 for Getting Things Done

[Robert Edwards]

Thanks!

Really, you don't use ticklers? That's one of the things I use most! I 
could probably just as easily put things in my calendar (and sometimes do) 
but having it all in the TW is handy. Examples are things like:

   - Every month at work I need to refresh my wifi password. I set up a 
   tickler to remind me, and the tickler contains a link to the webpage to do 
   so. Click & go!
   - A tickler fires about a week prior to birthdays, holidays, etc to 
   remind me to get gifts, cards, etc
   - There are some tasks that I have to do quarterly so I created a 
   tickler for those (and added a "quarterly" button alongside the weekly, 
   fortnightly, monthly, yearly buttons)
   - Reminders for appointments, meetings, etc -- my "Ticklers requiring 
   action" and "Upcoming ticklers (next 7 days)" lists are my most-used lists 
   of my dashboard
   
As I said, I could put these in my calendar but having them in my dashboard 
along with actions etc is very handy. (I've also customized the dashboards 
somewhat). What I *can't* do with my calendar is click a button in the 
tickler and turn it into an action item. E.g. a birthday reminder tickler 
fires and I turn it into an errand action to get a card. Another thing that 
my calendar doesn't do is "remember" that I've performed the required task 
-- if I click the "+m" (or whatever) button in a tickler after I've 
performed the task then it disappears until it's due again. A reminder in a 
calendar however sometimes leaves me wondering "Did I do that already?"

Cheers!

On Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 6:27:06 PM UTC-4, David Szego wrote:
>
> Hi Robert, great questions - and a good idea about the importer. I will 
> definitely write one at some point in my beta stage, thanks for suggesting 
> it. Nice to know you're an avid dGSD user too!
>
> Basic usage is the same as dGSD. The biggest difference is that you'll 
> need to create new task/project/etc. Tiddlers from either the "Cardo" 
> sidebar tab, or from the (+) or (N) buttons on existing Tiddlers.
>
> You shouldn't need to edit the "Review" tab at this point... it should 
> pick up your "name for signing Tiddlers" in the TW config, and open 
> appropriately. I'll double-check a few use cases and make sure that works 
> right.
>
> Ticklers, Books, and Mail I haven't touched yet. Those will be next, 
> probably in that order. 
>
> Curious - since you say you've got a "well used" dGSD, how did you find 
> yourself using Ticklers? I never ended up using them myself, so I could use 
> some good examples!
>
> Cheers,
> David.
>
> On Thursday, 29 September 2016 15:28:06 UTC-4, Robert Edwards wrote:
>>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> Great work. I'm playing with it now. The first hurdle that I immediately 
>> run into is a migration path from my well-used, well-populated TWC dGSD to 
>> Cardo. Even if I import the tiddlers into Cardo they are in the wrong 
>> format so don't work. A migration tool would be very helpful. Right now all 
>> I can see to do is to abandon my dGSD in place and start clean with Cardo, 
>> or laboriously convert/reenter everything by hand. (Once I figure out 
>> Cardo's basic usage, that is) I realize such a tool is a huge request! 
>> Or is there something that currently exists?
>>
>> Speaking of usage, I've not yet even grokked how to do the simplest 
>> things. For example you mention editing the Review tiddler to see your 
>> tasks. What do you mean "edit" -- actually change the code in the body of 
>> the tiddler? Replace the "Cardo" tag with my name? Something else? I 
>> haven't found anything that works yet
>>
>> Or ticklers... I can create one, but I see no way to attach a date to it, 
>> nor a way to assign it to a person. Maybe these are done with tags but I 
>> see no option to attach a tag. Nor can I find a tickler dashboard. Are 
>> ticklers not yet fully implemented or am I being dense?
>>
>> Thanks! I'm looking forward to actually using it!
>>
>>
>> On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 7:09:22 PM UTC-4, David Szego wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all!
>>>
>>> So, about a month after my first announcement, I've now got a very 
>>> usable version of Cardo (dGSD for TW5) to share at 
>>>
>>> http://cardo.wiki -  <http://cardo.wiki>
>>>
>>> Like my older dGSD for TW Classic, and mGSD before it, you can track 
>>> projects, tasks, meetings, agenda items, people, contact info, and 
>>> conversation logs. It's even nice and responsive for tablet or large-phone 
>>> use.
>>>
>>> There are a good few

[tw] Re: Is latest Tiddlyfox 2 necessary?

[Robert Edwards]

On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 10:53:40 AM UTC-4, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>
> Its was done because* new users were NOT noticing the state of the TW 
> saving toggle* in the address bar ("cat on world", later "ticks & 
> crosses") and losing work.
>
>
And not-so-new users as well, who didn't notice their 1.x TF had been 
automatically and silently upgraded   

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[tw] Re: TiddlyFox - Design Issue - The GLOBE is too small

[Robert Edwards]

What got me was not knowing I had to look for a new icon, and that my 
saving had been silently disabled. So it's not a case of not noticing the 
color of the icon, *it's noticing that there's an icon at all! *It was only 
after I'd lost work that I realized that TF had been updated and that I had 
to take explicit action.

I will accept part blame; it did ask me to confirm leaving the page. In 
dGSD (TWC-based), I've gotten used to seeing the "leave page" confirmation 
pop-up every time I close the page, whether I have unsaved changes or not. 
(There's a setting that's supposed to only ask when there are unsaved 
changes but it often reverts back to "always ask." That's a different 
annoyance) I this case I knew that I'd saved so closed the page. What I 
didn't know was that due to my not re-enabling saving in the new version of 
TF, my save had silently failed.

I love TW but this bit me hard and I'm a little angry about it.

On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 2:15:57 PM UTC-4, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> I been following the discussions on problems people been having on saving. 
> Many turn out to be no fault in TiddlyFox. Just users are not noticing the 
> different states of "enablement" of the TiddlyFox plugin. Not noticing you 
> need to explicitly enable saving for each TW separately now.
>
> The new icon in Firefox is pretty small and its quite easy not to notice 
> whether its globe is BLUE or GREEN when navigated to a TW. Elegant though 
> the design is, I think something that fills the space available for the 
> icon would be better, like the face of a cat, that changes color on 
> enabled state. This kind of icon ...
>
> Or maybe the WHOLE existing icon change color on enablement state?
>
> ALSO might be worth saying that the color states might better be RED for 
> not currently saving, and GREEN for currently saving, this TiddlyWiki. 
> Bland GREY, as is, for other pages 
>
> Just thoughts.
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>

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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyFox seemed to stop working

[Robert Edwards]

I lost a ton of work today as well. I didn't explicitly update tiddlyfox, 
and I didn't catch that I had to take an extra step to re-enable something 
that was previously working. Very frustrated right now!

On Thursday, April 13, 2017 at 12:59:40 PM UTC-4, webcorerad wrote:
>
> Ohhh :( I’ve just lost a day of work because of this as well. It didn’t 
> save anything, the computer freeze and I’ve had to restart it. When I 
> opened TiddlyWiki again all work was gone. I didn’t have clicked on the 
> TiddlyFox icon and the green button to enable the save again.
> The icon change is so subtle I didn’t noted it…
>
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Jeremy Ruston  > wrote:
>
>> Apologies, I hadn’t appreciated the impact of the change; I have to rely 
>> on feedback from beta testers to smooth out the rough edges of things. (The 
>> new version of TiddlyFox has been available as a beta for about 3 months).
>>
>> This happened to me as well and I don't see anyway for it to happen 
>> unless Firefox automatically updated the add-ins. I count automatic updates 
>> that change how the add-in works without notification as being a big 
>> mistake. 
>>
>>
>> The automatic update was a surprise to me, too. I submitted the add-on 
>> for approval on 21st February and had almost given up hope that it would be 
>> approved before the release of a version of Firefox that broke TiddlyFox.
>>
>> I seem to be constantly telling the thing that I want to enable saving 
>> for the wiki even though I haven't knowingly updated anything. Does 
>> clearing the cache, cookies, etc, also reset whether TiddlyFox has saving 
>> enabled? If so, is there some way to change that behaviour?
>>
>>
>> TiddlyFox settings are stored using the Firefox extension standard 
>> storage API for preference storage. I guess that it probably does get 
>> cleared if you nuke things sufficiently powerfully; hard to see a way to 
>> avoid that other than to store preferences somewhere non-standard, which 
>> seems like extra work, and makes the Mozilla review process more complex.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>>
>>
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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki in the Sky supports Classic :)

[Robert Edwards]

Hi Arlen, 

Thanks for updating for TWC! However I'm getting the following error when I 
attempt to use it: 









On Friday, October 13, 2017 at 10:52:07 PM UTC-4, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> Good evening everyone,
>
> The new URL is: https://twcloud.github.io/dropbox/
>
> I've updated TiddlyWiki in the Sky using a new mechanism that allows me to 
> support both Classic and Five. The new mechanism generates a blob URL 
> containing the selected file and the code needed for saving. 
>
> Every link now contains an actual "permalink" containing both the app 
> access type and the file path, so you can now bookmark specific files in 
> your account for easy access. The permalink includes the account id to make 
> sure you don't accidentally open a file in the wrong account. 
>
> Right-click on the link to copy it or open it in a new tab. You can also 
> drag it into your bookmarks. If you open it in a new tab, the current 
> access token won't carry over, so you will still need to be logged into the 
> same Dropbox account, just as if you were using the link from 
> somewhere else. 
>
> Sorry, the icons are simply gone for now, but it should be pretty obvious 
> what's a folder and what's an HTML file. Also, it is kind of beta, but I 
> was testing it and worked out a few more bugs this evening, so I'm pretty 
> confident now that everything is working. 
>
> The old URL still works and uses the old loading mechanism, so if you run 
> into any trouble, that one will still be there. 
> https://twcloud.github.io/tw5-dropbox/
>
> As always, let me know if you run into any trouble. 
>
> The new URL is at the top of this email to avoid confusion :)
>
> Enjoy,
> Arlen
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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyWiki in the Sky supports Classic :)

[Robert Edwards]

Thanks for following up! I can now load my TWC, but upon saving in 
Safari/iOS I get the popup "You need to save this TiddlyWiki to a file 
before you can save changes."

On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 7:14:34 AM UTC-4, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> @Robert, I think I know what caused that and it should be fixed now.
>
> @Tony, what browser and OS are you using?
>
> Thanks, Arlen
>
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 7:56 PM, TonyM  > wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately no go on my 17Mb TWC, I will investigate further when and 
>> If I have more time :(
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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyWiki in the Sky supports Classic :)

[Robert Edwards]

It's probably relevant to note that my primary TWC is an mGSD based TW core 
2.6.5. I seem to recall that when I first started using it I tried updating 
the core but ran into run-time errors

For fun I tried a different one that I use with a different project. It's a 
less-customized TWC based on core 2.8.1. With this one, when I try to save 
it wants to save it to my local filesystem, not back to DB.

HTH!

On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 8:22:17 AM UTC-4, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> Hmm, that sounds like something coming directly from TW Classic itself. 
> Unfortunately, the TWC file I have on hand does not give this error. I 
> don't really understand TiddlyWiki Classic very well, so if anyone can help 
> me out here, that would be great.  
>
> Arlen
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Robert Edwards <rced...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> Thanks for following up! I can now load my TWC, but upon saving in 
>> Safari/iOS I get the popup "You need to save this TiddlyWiki to a file 
>> before you can save changes."
>>
>> On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 7:14:34 AM UTC-4, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>>
>>> @Robert, I think I know what caused that and it should be fixed now.
>>>
>>> @Tony, what browser and OS are you using?
>>>
>>> Thanks, Arlen
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 7:56 PM, TonyM <anthony...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Unfortunately no go on my 17Mb TWC, I will investigate further when and 
>>>> If I have more time :(
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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyWiki in the Sky supports Classic :)

[Robert Edwards]

I get the tw-native save alert and the browser/os save dialog box, but no
save banner as I used to with Jeremy's TWITS before DB turned off V1 APIs.



On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 1:19 PM, Arlen Beiler <arlen...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry, I meant the one on 2.8.1.
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 1:16 PM, Robert Edwards <rcedw...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I do not get the "saving" banner -- only the warning popup
>>
>>
>>
>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-BAUrFlcxE1Q/WeTpPZBlnMI/ByM/fkBt1_q7eOwjY8C2vWxsDcmMSpKGoGnmwCLcBGAs/s1600/2017-10-16%2B13_06_53-_%2BRob%2527s%2BmGSD%2BNotes%2B-%2BTrying%2Bout%2BmGSD.png>
>>
>>
>>
>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-BAUrFlcxE1Q/WeTpPZBlnMI/ByM/fkBt1_q7eOwjY8C2vWxsDcmMSpKGoGnmwCLcBGAs/s1600/2017-10-16%2B13_06_53-_%2BRob%2527s%2BmGSD%2BNotes%2B-%2BTrying%2Bout%2BmGSD.png>
>>
>>
>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-BAUrFlcxE1Q/WeTpPZBlnMI/ByM/fkBt1_q7eOwjY8C2vWxsDcmMSpKGoGnmwCLcBGAs/s1600/2017-10-16%2B13_06_53-_%2BRob%2527s%2BmGSD%2BNotes%2B-%2BTrying%2Bout%2BmGSD.png>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 12:50:56 PM UTC-4, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>>
>>> Is it possible that it is saving a backup to the local filesystem? Does
>>> the yellow saving changes banner come up with your Dropbox profile pic?
>>>
>>> On Oct 16, 2017 11:23 AM, "Robert Edwards" <rced...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's probably relevant to note that my primary TWC is an mGSD based TW
>>>> core 2.6.5. I seem to recall that when I first started using it I tried
>>>> updating the core but ran into run-time errors
>>>>
>>>> For fun I tried a different one that I use with a different project.
>>>> It's a less-customized TWC based on core 2.8.1. With this one, when I try
>>>> to save it wants to save it to my local filesystem, not back to DB.
>>>>
>>>> HTH!
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 8:22:17 AM UTC-4, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm, that sounds like something coming directly from TW Classic
>>>>> itself. Unfortunately, the TWC file I have on hand does not give this
>>>>> error. I don't really understand TiddlyWiki Classic very well, so if 
>>>>> anyone
>>>>> can help me out here, that would be great.
>>>>>
>>>>> Arlen
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Robert Edwards <rced...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for following up! I can now load my TWC, but upon saving in
>>>>>> Safari/iOS I get the popup "You need to save this TiddlyWiki to a file
>>>>>> before you can save changes."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 7:14:34 AM UTC-4, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @Robert, I think I know what caused that and it should be fixed now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @Tony, what browser and OS are you using?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, Arlen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 7:56 PM, TonyM <anthony...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Unfortunately no go on my 17Mb TWC, I will investigate further when
>>>>>>>> and If I have more time :(
>>>>>>>>
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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyWiki in the Sky supports Classic :)

[Robert Edwards]

I do not get the "saving" banner -- only the warning popup


<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-BAUrFlcxE1Q/WeTpPZBlnMI/ByM/fkBt1_q7eOwjY8C2vWxsDcmMSpKGoGnmwCLcBGAs/s1600/2017-10-16%2B13_06_53-_%2BRob%2527s%2BmGSD%2BNotes%2B-%2BTrying%2Bout%2BmGSD.png>


<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-BAUrFlcxE1Q/WeTpPZBlnMI/ByM/fkBt1_q7eOwjY8C2vWxsDcmMSpKGoGnmwCLcBGAs/s1600/2017-10-16%2B13_06_53-_%2BRob%2527s%2BmGSD%2BNotes%2B-%2BTrying%2Bout%2BmGSD.png>

<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-BAUrFlcxE1Q/WeTpPZBlnMI/ByM/fkBt1_q7eOwjY8C2vWxsDcmMSpKGoGnmwCLcBGAs/s1600/2017-10-16%2B13_06_53-_%2BRob%2527s%2BmGSD%2BNotes%2B-%2BTrying%2Bout%2BmGSD.png>



On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 12:50:56 PM UTC-4, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> Is it possible that it is saving a backup to the local filesystem? Does 
> the yellow saving changes banner come up with your Dropbox profile pic?
>
> On Oct 16, 2017 11:23 AM, "Robert Edwards" <rced...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> It's probably relevant to note that my primary TWC is an mGSD based TW 
>> core 2.6.5. I seem to recall that when I first started using it I tried 
>> updating the core but ran into run-time errors
>>
>> For fun I tried a different one that I use with a different project. It's 
>> a less-customized TWC based on core 2.8.1. With this one, when I try to 
>> save it wants to save it to my local filesystem, not back to DB.
>>
>> HTH!
>>
>> On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 8:22:17 AM UTC-4, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>>
>>> Hmm, that sounds like something coming directly from TW Classic itself. 
>>> Unfortunately, the TWC file I have on hand does not give this error. I 
>>> don't really understand TiddlyWiki Classic very well, so if anyone can help 
>>> me out here, that would be great.  
>>>
>>> Arlen
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Robert Edwards <rced...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for following up! I can now load my TWC, but upon saving in 
>>>> Safari/iOS I get the popup "You need to save this TiddlyWiki to a file 
>>>> before you can save changes."
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 7:14:34 AM UTC-4, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> @Robert, I think I know what caused that and it should be fixed now.
>>>>>
>>>>> @Tony, what browser and OS are you using?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Arlen
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 7:56 PM, TonyM <anthony...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately no go on my 17Mb TWC, I will investigate further when 
>>>>>> and If I have more time :(
>>>>>>
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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyWiki in the Sky supports Classic :)

[Robert Edwards]

Thanks for looking into it!

On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 2:12:18 PM UTC-4, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> Ok, this also seems to be a bit of a dilemma. I don't work with classic so 
> I'm not sure what the problem is, but if anyone wants to investigate this 
> further, the relevant code is here.
>
> https://github.com/twcloud/dropbox/blob/master/tiddly-saver-inject.js
>
> I'm sorry I'm not more help,
> Arlen
>
> On Oct 16, 2017 2:00 PM, "Robert Edwards" <rced...@gmail.com > 
> wrote:
>
>> I get the tw-native save alert and the browser/os save dialog box, but no 
>> save banner as I used to with Jeremy's TWITS before DB turned off V1 APIs.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 1:19 PM, Arlen Beiler <arle...@gmail.com 
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry, I meant the one on 2.8.1. 
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 1:16 PM, Robert Edwards <rced...@gmail.com 
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> I do not get the "saving" banner -- only the warning popup
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-BAUrFlcxE1Q/WeTpPZBlnMI/ByM/fkBt1_q7eOwjY8C2vWxsDcmMSpKGoGnmwCLcBGAs/s1600/2017-10-16%2B13_06_53-_%2BRob%2527s%2BmGSD%2BNotes%2B-%2BTrying%2Bout%2BmGSD.png>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-BAUrFlcxE1Q/WeTpPZBlnMI/ByM/fkBt1_q7eOwjY8C2vWxsDcmMSpKGoGnmwCLcBGAs/s1600/2017-10-16%2B13_06_53-_%2BRob%2527s%2BmGSD%2BNotes%2B-%2BTrying%2Bout%2BmGSD.png>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-BAUrFlcxE1Q/WeTpPZBlnMI/ByM/fkBt1_q7eOwjY8C2vWxsDcmMSpKGoGnmwCLcBGAs/s1600/2017-10-16%2B13_06_53-_%2BRob%2527s%2BmGSD%2BNotes%2B-%2BTrying%2Bout%2BmGSD.png>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 12:50:56 PM UTC-4, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it possible that it is saving a backup to the local filesystem? 
>>>>> Does the yellow saving changes banner come up with your Dropbox profile 
>>>>> pic?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 16, 2017 11:23 AM, "Robert Edwards" <rced...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's probably relevant to note that my primary TWC is an mGSD based 
>>>>>> TW core 2.6.5. I seem to recall that when I first started using it I 
>>>>>> tried 
>>>>>> updating the core but ran into run-time errors
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For fun I tried a different one that I use with a different project. 
>>>>>> It's a less-customized TWC based on core 2.8.1. With this one, when I 
>>>>>> try 
>>>>>> to save it wants to save it to my local filesystem, not back to DB.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HTH!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 8:22:17 AM UTC-4, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmm, that sounds like something coming directly from TW Classic 
>>>>>>> itself. Unfortunately, the TWC file I have on hand does not give this 
>>>>>>> error. I don't really understand TiddlyWiki Classic very well, so if 
>>>>>>> anyone 
>>>>>>> can help me out here, that would be great.  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Arlen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Robert Edwards <rced...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for following up! I can now load my TWC, but upon saving in 
>>>>>>>> Safari/iOS I get the popup "You need to save this TiddlyWiki to a file 
>>>>>>>> before you can save changes."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 7:14:34 AM UTC-4, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> @Robert, I think I know what caused that and it should be fixed 
>>>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> @Tony, what browser and OS are you using?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Arlen
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 7:56 PM, TonyM <anthony...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>

Re: [tw] [TWC]Self-hosting

[Robert Edwards]

Thanks! But it still tells me I must save it before I can save it.

You may have hit on something -- my TWC is based on an older core version 
of TW. When I first began using it I attempted to update it but ran into 
compatibility issues with some of its plugins. Perhaps it's time I revisit 
trying to update it.

On Friday, January 5, 2018 at 7:35:22 AM UTC-5, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> Just thought I would mention that there are two links now, which use two 
> different mechanisms. 
>
> https://twcloud.github.io/tw5-dropbox/ - TW5 only
> https://twcloud.github.io/dropbox/ - TW5 and possibly TWC
>
> Try both if you are working with TiddlyWiki5. They each use different 
> methods, but the second link is newer and has more features. It is more 
> likely to work, unless you have a really old TW5 file. TWC support is 
> spotty, but should work for the latest versions.
>
> Hope that helps,
> Arlen
>
> On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Robert Edwards <rced...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> (Sorry for posting in the "wrong" group but there's a lot more traffic 
>> here, as well as a lot of TWC expertise!)
>>
>> I'd like to self-host the TWC-based dGSD that I've been using for years. 
>> I previously used Jeremy's TiddlyWiki in the Sky but that went away with 
>> DropBox's api change. David Szego's TW5-based *Cardo* isn't clicking 
>> with me and my dGSD has a lot of info that would be painful to move over 
>> into a cardo. Arlen's TWITS5 port is close but I can't save (it fails with 
>> the error "You need to save this TiddlyWiki to a file before you can save 
>> changes"). 
>>
>> So what I'm trying to do is more or less replicate the functionality of 
>> classic TWITS but do so securely on my own server, in my own house. I need 
>> to be able to access it from a laptop or mobile, either on my own home 
>> network or remotely by VPNing into my network when I'm on the road. I've 
>> got a dedicated RPi that's already running my VPN endpoint that I foresee 
>> serving the file.
>>
>> I've searched for solutions and found several apparent possibilities 
>> (e.g. TiddlyServer), but it's not clear if they are indeed actual solutions 
>> (i.e. will they fulfill my need) and which would be most appropriate. Also, 
>> there's been quite a bit of link rot and archive.org doesn't have many 
>> of the dead links archived.
>>
>> I'm sure someone must have experience doing something similar -- anyone 
>> have any suggestions you'd like to share?
>>
>> Thanks!
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Re: [tw] [TWC]Self-hosting

[Robert Edwards]

I got busy with other things but finally got back to trying this. I have 
updated my twc to core version 290b3. Saving now seems to work on chrome on 
macos and windows 7. It does not work on FF on either os -- it wants me to 
download the new file. The same occurs on safari on macos and ios (once I 
forced allowing editing). Based on the desktop results I had high hopes for 
chrome on ios but so far all I've been able to get is the "Reading HTML 
file" popup then it appears to hang. It never proceeds farther and I never 
get my TW. I wish I knew how to debug the DB api and get some visibility 
into what it's doing

Thanks!


On Friday, January 5, 2018 at 8:06:40 AM UTC-5, Robert Edwards wrote:
>
> Thanks! But it still tells me I must save it before I can save it.
>
> You may have hit on something -- my TWC is based on an older core version 
> of TW. When I first began using it I attempted to update it but ran into 
> compatibility issues with some of its plugins. Perhaps it's time I revisit 
> trying to update it.
>
> On Friday, January 5, 2018 at 7:35:22 AM UTC-5, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>
>> Just thought I would mention that there are two links now, which use two 
>> different mechanisms. 
>>
>> https://twcloud.github.io/tw5-dropbox/ - TW5 only
>> https://twcloud.github.io/dropbox/ - TW5 and possibly TWC
>>
>> Try both if you are working with TiddlyWiki5. They each use different 
>> methods, but the second link is newer and has more features. It is more 
>> likely to work, unless you have a really old TW5 file. TWC support is 
>> spotty, but should work for the latest versions.
>>
>> Hope that helps,
>> Arlen
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Robert Edwards <rced...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> (Sorry for posting in the "wrong" group but there's a lot more traffic 
>>> here, as well as a lot of TWC expertise!)
>>>
>>> I'd like to self-host the TWC-based dGSD that I've been using for years. 
>>> I previously used Jeremy's TiddlyWiki in the Sky but that went away with 
>>> DropBox's api change. David Szego's TW5-based *Cardo* isn't clicking 
>>> with me and my dGSD has a lot of info that would be painful to move over 
>>> into a cardo. Arlen's TWITS5 port is close but I can't save (it fails with 
>>> the error "You need to save this TiddlyWiki to a file before you can save 
>>> changes"). 
>>>
>>> So what I'm trying to do is more or less replicate the functionality of 
>>> classic TWITS but do so securely on my own server, in my own house. I need 
>>> to be able to access it from a laptop or mobile, either on my own home 
>>> network or remotely by VPNing into my network when I'm on the road. I've 
>>> got a dedicated RPi that's already running my VPN endpoint that I foresee 
>>> serving the file.
>>>
>>> I've searched for solutions and found several apparent possibilities 
>>> (e.g. TiddlyServer), but it's not clear if they are indeed actual solutions 
>>> (i.e. will they fulfill my need) and which would be most appropriate. Also, 
>>> there's been quite a bit of link rot and archive.org doesn't have many 
>>> of the dead links archived.
>>>
>>> I'm sure someone must have experience doing something similar -- anyone 
>>> have any suggestions you'd like to share?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
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Re: [tw] [TWC]Self-hosting

[Robert Edwards]

Replying to myself so that if anyone else comes along and looking at this 
later there will be breadcrumbs.

So far I'm having (mostly) success with MicroTiddlyServer -- 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywikiclassic/Eb48yQBof5c

I still need to tweak a few settings to my liking but I'm able to access, 
edit & save my TWC from any device within my home network, and by VPNing 
into my network I'm also able to do the same from outside.

Thanks!

On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 6:49:20 PM UTC-5, Robert Edwards wrote:
>
> I got busy with other things but finally got back to trying this. I have 
> updated my twc to core version 290b3. Saving now seems to work on chrome on 
> macos and windows 7. It does not work on FF on either os -- it wants me to 
> download the new file. The same occurs on safari on macos and ios (once I 
> forced allowing editing). Based on the desktop results I had high hopes for 
> chrome on ios but so far all I've been able to get is the "Reading HTML 
> file" popup then it appears to hang. It never proceeds farther and I never 
> get my TW. I wish I knew how to debug the DB api and get some visibility 
> into what it's doing
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> On Friday, January 5, 2018 at 8:06:40 AM UTC-5, Robert Edwards wrote:
>>
>> Thanks! But it still tells me I must save it before I can save it.
>>
>> You may have hit on something -- my TWC is based on an older core version 
>> of TW. When I first began using it I attempted to update it but ran into 
>> compatibility issues with some of its plugins. Perhaps it's time I revisit 
>> trying to update it.
>>
>> On Friday, January 5, 2018 at 7:35:22 AM UTC-5, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>>
>>> Just thought I would mention that there are two links now, which use two 
>>> different mechanisms. 
>>>
>>> https://twcloud.github.io/tw5-dropbox/ - TW5 only
>>> https://twcloud.github.io/dropbox/ - TW5 and possibly TWC
>>>
>>> Try both if you are working with TiddlyWiki5. They each use different 
>>> methods, but the second link is newer and has more features. It is more 
>>> likely to work, unless you have a really old TW5 file. TWC support is 
>>> spotty, but should work for the latest versions.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps,
>>> Arlen
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Robert Edwards <rced...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> (Sorry for posting in the "wrong" group but there's a lot more traffic 
>>>> here, as well as a lot of TWC expertise!)
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to self-host the TWC-based dGSD that I've been using for 
>>>> years. I previously used Jeremy's TiddlyWiki in the Sky but that went away 
>>>> with DropBox's api change. David Szego's TW5-based *Cardo* isn't 
>>>> clicking with me and my dGSD has a lot of info that would be painful to 
>>>> move over into a cardo. Arlen's TWITS5 port is close but I can't save (it 
>>>> fails with the error "You need to save this TiddlyWiki to a file before 
>>>> you 
>>>> can save changes"). 
>>>>
>>>> So what I'm trying to do is more or less replicate the functionality of 
>>>> classic TWITS but do so securely on my own server, in my own house. I need 
>>>> to be able to access it from a laptop or mobile, either on my own home 
>>>> network or remotely by VPNing into my network when I'm on the road. I've 
>>>> got a dedicated RPi that's already running my VPN endpoint that I foresee 
>>>> serving the file.
>>>>
>>>> I've searched for solutions and found several apparent possibilities 
>>>> (e.g. TiddlyServer), but it's not clear if they are indeed actual 
>>>> solutions 
>>>> (i.e. will they fulfill my need) and which would be most appropriate. 
>>>> Also, 
>>>> there's been quite a bit of link rot and archive.org doesn't have many 
>>>> of the dead links archived.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure someone must have experience doing something similar -- anyone 
>>>> have any suggestions you'd like to share?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
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[tw] Re: [TWC] Local files with TiddlyDesktop or TiddlyServer?

[Robert Edwards]

This might be helpful:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywikiclassic/Eb48yQBof5c

On Friday, January 12, 2018 at 6:08:18 PM UTC-5, Jon wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have some highly modified TWCs that are important but way too much 
> trouble to convert to TW5 (until maybe retirement puts a lot of time into 
> my hands).
>
> It would be very useful for a couple of these to be able to read and write 
> local files. Impossible with current browsers, but perhaps possible with 
> TiddlyDesktop or TiddlyServer? If so, can someone spoon-feed me some basics 
> to help me get started? I'm experienced with TW, but not at all experienced 
> with nodejs or nw. The files could be either ordinary text files or 
> externally stored tiddlers, it doesn't really matter, as long as I can read 
> and write them with javascript.
>
> Thanks!
> Jon
>
>

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[tw] [TWC]Self-hosting

[Robert Edwards]

(Sorry for posting in the "wrong" group but there's a lot more traffic 
here, as well as a lot of TWC expertise!)

I'd like to self-host the TWC-based dGSD that I've been using for years. I 
previously used Jeremy's TiddlyWiki in the Sky but that went away with 
DropBox's api change. David Szego's TW5-based *Cardo* isn't clicking with 
me and my dGSD has a lot of info that would be painful to move over into a 
cardo. Arlen's TWITS5 port is close but I can't save (it fails with the 
error "You need to save this TiddlyWiki to a file before you can save 
changes"). 

So what I'm trying to do is more or less replicate the functionality of 
classic TWITS but do so securely on my own server, in my own house. I need 
to be able to access it from a laptop or mobile, either on my own home 
network or remotely by VPNing into my network when I'm on the road. I've 
got a dedicated RPi that's already running my VPN endpoint that I foresee 
serving the file.

I've searched for solutions and found several apparent possibilities (e.g. 
TiddlyServer), but it's not clear if they are indeed actual solutions (i.e. 
will they fulfill my need) and which would be most appropriate. Also, 
there's been quite a bit of link rot and archive.org doesn't have many of 
the dead links archived.

I'm sure someone must have experience doing something similar -- anyone 
have any suggestions you'd like to share?

Thanks!

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