[tw5] Re: Posts should be now cross-posted to the Talk TiddlyWiki Discourse again

[Boris Mann]

Hi Charlie --

Yep, still troubleshooting. I'm going to need to use this thread for more 
test posts over time.

Please just use this thread if you want to make a test post, then others 
can mute this thread and not be bothered by it.

On Thursday, October 7, 2021 at 6:45:15 AM UTC-7 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> Well, this conversation is not getting updated over in TiddlyTalk.  I will 
> post a test here in Google Groups to see if it shows in TiddlyTalk.
>
> On Thursday, October 7, 2021 at 10:43:10 AM UTC-3 Charlie Veniot wrote:
>
>> Did that do anything?  It does not look like this conversation in Google 
>> Groups is showing over in TiddlyTalk, unless I'm missing something.
>>
>> On Thursday, October 7, 2021 at 12:48:33 AM UTC-3 bo...@fission.codes 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Rebooted the server once more, doing a test send. And it needs to be 
>>> long enough.
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 10:41:38 PM UTC-7 Boris Mann wrote:
>>>
>>>> For those that are interested, it was related to an SSL / root 
>>>> certificate that caused havoc all over the Internet. The Discourse team 
>>>> made an update which appears to have fixed it.
>>>>
>>>> Further details / comments / questions in the meta thread here: 
>>>> https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/t/seems-like-new-gg-posts-do-not-show-up-in-tiddlytalk/969/14
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Boris Mann, Co-founder
>>>>
>>>> Fission: Fast app publishing for front end devs to ship web native apps
>>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Posts should be now cross-posted to the Talk TiddlyWiki Discourse again

[Boris Mann]

Rebooted the server once more, doing a test send. And it needs to be long 
enough.

On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 10:41:38 PM UTC-7 Boris Mann wrote:

> For those that are interested, it was related to an SSL / root certificate 
> that caused havoc all over the Internet. The Discourse team made an update 
> which appears to have fixed it.
>
> Further details / comments / questions in the meta thread here: 
> https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/t/seems-like-new-gg-posts-do-not-show-up-in-tiddlytalk/969/14
>
> --
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> Boris Mann, Co-founder
>
> Fission: Fast app publishing for front end devs to ship web native apps
>

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[tw5] Posts should be now cross-posted to the Talk TiddlyWiki Discourse again

[Boris Mann]

For those that are interested, it was related to an SSL / root certificate that 
caused havoc all over the Internet. The Discourse team made an update which 
appears to have fixed it.

Further details / comments / questions in the meta thread here: 
https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/t/seems-like-new-gg-posts-do-not-show-up-in-tiddlytalk/969/14

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Community Call and File Uploads Plugin

[Boris Mann]

Yes, it's hard to fit Europe, west coast North American, and Australian 
timezones in one slot -- sorry about that!

Yes, the session will be recorded.


On Friday, July 23, 2021 at 6:28:12 PM UTC-7 TW Tones wrote:

> Given
> Converted Time Sydney, NSW, Australia 
> 
> 2:00 am AEST 
> Wednesday, 18 August 2021
>
> I am not sure I will make it, perhaps in a follow-up one. If possible if 
> you can publish a recording after it would be appreciated.
>
> This subject means a lot to me. If I may share these points in advance for 
> consideration.
>
>
>- The provision of serial editing (one use after the other) through 
>check in and check out mechanisms, for all saver mechanism's.  This would 
>be the quickest route to supporting multi-users/teams on tiddlywiki
>- It is quite easy to change the filename of a saved tiddlywiki, say 
>on php and tw-reciever. it seems to be the save technology can already 
> save 
>files to hosts. It seems to be we need to open this up to trusted users 
>with the appropriate credentials so for example
>   - A single file tiddlywiki could save the changes made by one user 
>   only, in an independent file (delta backup). Then either the 
>  - owner can import all user contributions and apply them to the 
>  master copy, 
>  - or users can recover their current state by loading their own 
>  file of changes (delta backup) from the host ). 
>  - or both 
>  - Contention and overwrites can be handled by the wiki designer 
>  or interactively.
>   - Designers could write information or logs to the host file system 
>   from the tiddlywiki, acknowledging all permitted users have file update 
>   rights. This would allow survey answers, to be saved, comments etc...
>
> Regards
> Tones
> On Saturday, 24 July 2021 at 04:02:41 UTC+10 bo...@fission.codes wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the kind words, Saq. It's been great working with you and 
>> Jeremy and I'm happy to support you and the community.
>>
>> I'd really like some open discussion around how the TiddlyWiki community 
>> can use and rally around Open Collective. I'm personally _very_ inspired by 
>> the organization and the promise it has over time -- and where it is at 
>> today. Their recent blog post is a very good read 
>> https://blog.opencollective.com/solidarity-as-our-guiding-principle/. 
>> I'll quote part of the post:
>>
>> *Technology Owned by the People*
>> *Open Collective is part of a movement for start-ups and tech platforms 
>> become to become owned by their users and stakeholders, called “exit to 
>> community” or E2C. Learn more about this community interested in community 
>> control and governance here. We don’t know exactly what the future holds, 
>> but OCF, grounded in perspectives of solidarity, will be a key influence on 
>> the future of the Open Collective platform as a commons.*
>>
>> In short, I've been working with open source software and communities for 
>> 2 decades now. I'm more convinced than ever that we can "Build Software 
>> Together" and that Open Collective is a tool that can be used by 
>> communities to pool funds towards common goals.
>>
>> This experiment with the file uploads plugin has lead directly to having 
>> Saq spend time working on a more solid foundation for core TW architecture. 
>> Can we continue this? Can we get more small and large projects and people 
>> funded through OC?
>>
>> On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 12:33:18 PM UTC-7 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> We will be having a *TiddlyWiki Community call* with Jeremy, Boris and 
>>> myself on August 17th at 6pm CET: TiddlyWiki Community: Core Savers & 
>>> Syncers, Upload Plugin, & Community Forum - Zoom 
>>> 
>>>
>>> I hope some of you will be able to join us for what I think will be a 
>>> very interesting discussion. Please register for the event at the link 
>>> above.
>>>
>>> The call will include:
>>>
>>>- a progress update on my work on the *Uploads plugin* funded by 
>>>Open Collective
>>>- a summary of some rather exciting and promising avenues for core 
>>>development in the areas of *Savers and Syncers* that has come out 
>>>of discussions around the Uploads plugin
>>>- an update on the *Open Collective* model for funding TiddlyWiki 
>>>work and what we have learned from it thus far
>>>- some news from Jeremy and Boris regarding improvements to 
>>>TiddlyWiki *community infrastructure*.
>>>
>>> I have been slowly working away on the TiddlyWiki file uploads plugin as 
>>> was previously announced 
>>> . 
>>> The majority of the work thus far has consisted of brainstorming around the 
>>> architecture and some very involved but promising and productive 
>>> discussions with Jeremy around 

[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki Community Call and File Uploads Plugin

[Boris Mann]

Thanks for the kind words, Saq. It's been great working with you and Jeremy 
and I'm happy to support you and the community.

I'd really like some open discussion around how the TiddlyWiki community 
can use and rally around Open Collective. I'm personally _very_ inspired by 
the organization and the promise it has over time -- and where it is at 
today. Their recent blog post is a very good 
read https://blog.opencollective.com/solidarity-as-our-guiding-principle/. 
I'll quote part of the post:

*Technology Owned by the People*
*Open Collective is part of a movement for start-ups and tech platforms 
become to become owned by their users and stakeholders, called “exit to 
community” or E2C. Learn more about this community interested in community 
control and governance here. We don’t know exactly what the future holds, 
but OCF, grounded in perspectives of solidarity, will be a key influence on 
the future of the Open Collective platform as a commons.*

In short, I've been working with open source software and communities for 2 
decades now. I'm more convinced than ever that we can "Build Software 
Together" and that Open Collective is a tool that can be used by 
communities to pool funds towards common goals.

This experiment with the file uploads plugin has lead directly to having 
Saq spend time working on a more solid foundation for core TW architecture. 
Can we continue this? Can we get more small and large projects and people 
funded through OC?

On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 12:33:18 PM UTC-7 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:

> We will be having a *TiddlyWiki Community call* with Jeremy, Boris and 
> myself on August 17th at 6pm CET: TiddlyWiki Community: Core Savers & 
> Syncers, Upload Plugin, & Community Forum - Zoom 
>
> I hope some of you will be able to join us for what I think will be a very 
> interesting discussion. Please register for the event at the link above.
>
> The call will include:
>
>- a progress update on my work on the *Uploads plugin* funded by Open 
>Collective
>- a summary of some rather exciting and promising avenues for core 
>development in the areas of *Savers and Syncers* that has come out of 
>discussions around the Uploads plugin
>- an update on the *Open Collective* model for funding TiddlyWiki work 
>and what we have learned from it thus far
>- some news from Jeremy and Boris regarding improvements to TiddlyWiki 
> *community 
>infrastructure*.
>
> I have been slowly working away on the TiddlyWiki file uploads plugin as 
> was previously announced 
> . 
> The majority of the work thus far has consisted of brainstorming around the 
> architecture and some very involved but promising and productive 
> discussions with Jeremy around how such a plugin would integrate with the 
> core, and the direction that the core might take in the future with regards 
> to saving and syncing mechanisms. 
>
> In particular we have identified some exciting opportunities to explore in 
> due course for a rethinking of the saver and syncer mechanisms that may 
> amongst other things eventually make file uploads a core TiddlyWiki ability 
> alongside saving and syncing and static file publishing.
>
> This has necessitated a change in approach to the File Uploads plugin so 
> as to not introduce changes to the TiddlyWiki core at this time which may 
> clash with the long term direction of development, and still make the 
> Uploads plugin available in a timely manner for those that need this 
> functionality today. I currently have a minimal working prototype that 
> uploads images imported into TiddlyWiki to Fission, though with no UI or 
> error handling as of yet and desperately in need of some heavy refactoring 
> to better be able to support different storage back ends. I hope to present 
> a demo of an early version of the plugin on the call.
>
> I would like to take the opportunity here to thank Boris and Fission. 
> Despite Boris having chipped in for the vast majority of the funding for 
> this plugin as it is something he needs in his own TiddlyWiki usage, not 
> only has he been patient and supportive as we focus on long term core 
> planning first, but Fission has actively been facilitating those 
> discussions.
>
> Regards,
> Saq
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Funding a core TiddlyWiki file uploads plugin

[Boris Mann]

On May 27, 2021 at 7:45 AM, Stobot (stob...@gmail.com) wrote:
Gotcha - well it's not a huge pain point for me, but it is useful - I've now 
put in a donation and hope it works out. 


Thanks so much for your contribution! I think I need to create a NodeJS saver 
goal — I’ll note your contribution as a vote for that.

At the risk of slightly changing subjects, I don't know if the Fission thing 
could ever enable a multi-simultaneous-user environment (like BOB), but that's 
something I really *would* and *have* financially contributed to in the past. :)


Yes, once Fission itself supports shared files, then TiddlyWiki on Fission 
could easily support multi user.

This Google Docs Style collaborative editing functionality is very hard to 
implement, but generally we’re seeing new tech arise so that it can be a 
building block that more apps can include. Like Joshua’s usage of Yjs.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Funding a core TiddlyWiki file uploads plugin

[Boris Mann]

Clearly I don’t speak TiddlyWiki well enough!


On May 27, 2021 at 5:41 AM, Stobot (stob...@gmail.com) wrote:
Thanks for that detail Saq - I didn't really understand what it was from Boris' 
description, and still don't really understand what Fission is or how it will 
help me / us. 


Fission helps read / write files to the IPFS global network. With the 
TiddlyWiki on Fission code that Jeremy has written, anyone can host editions 
that new users can just start using without running a server.

I’ve funded the IPFS saver that works with Fission as the first step.

I will say that I now use node.js and do miss this feature of BOB - it's very 
helpful!


The plan is for Saq to build this to be part of core.

If you want to have a NodeJS saver — help fund Saq and say you want NodeJS 
prioritized.

On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 8:24:12 AM UTC-4 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
This has the promise to be a very interesting avenue of development for 
TiddlyWiki users, even for those not interested in using TiddlyWiki on Fission 
at the moment.

A frequently discussed limitation with using TiddlyWiki is that embedding 
images and other files leads to very large and unwieldy file sizes. The basic 
idea here is to develop support in TiddlyWiki so that when you import an image 
or another file, it is uploaded to external storage backends (think Amazon S3, 
Webnative IPFS, Github pages, Google Drive etc), and just save a tiddler in the 
TiddlyWiki pointing to those files.

The workflow might look something like this:
* configure your wiki via a settings tab in the control panel to upload images 
to a storage backend of your choice that you have access to.
* drag and drop an image to import.
* the image is uploaded to your specified storage
* a canonical_uri tiddler is created pointing to that image. 
* You can now include the image in any of your tiddlers by just including the 
canonical_uri tiddler. However, the image is not stored in your TiddlyWiki and 
inflating its file size.
I've previously worked on a prototype of a plugin that does something similar 
for node.js and saves the images to the local file system. Thanks to Boris' 
support, I'll be able to dedicate the time to build on that work and the goal 
for the first version of this plugin will be to allow uploading files to 
Webnative IPFS when using TiddlyWiki on Fission. As far as possible, I will try 
to make the mechanism pluggable and usable with other storage backends, for 
which support can be added at a later date.

By getting involved now, you have the opportunity to support and influence the 
design and implementation of this feature, as well as the implementation of 
support for other backends.
Regards,
Saq


On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 9:33:10 AM UTC+2 bo...@fission.codes wrote:
At last week's Fission Demo Day, Jeremy presented and we also announced an 
initiative to build a plugin to support file uploads.

Saq very quickly reached out, we had a chat last week, and confirmed that he'll 
be leading the development of this as a core plugin.

The initial features include:
- create a new tiddler for each file
- link the file using a canonical URI
- resize images to create smaller thumbnails

I've personally funded the Webnative IPFS backend as the first thing that Saq 
will work on. Other backends / savers will be prioritized based on backers. 
There's an option for company sponsorship at a higher tier, with more direct 
recognition and promotion.
We've got a discussion thread in the Fission forum: 
https://talk.fission.codes/t/tiddlywiki-file-upload-plugin-webnative-ipfs-funded/1926

You can directly contribute on OpenCollective: 
https://opencollective.com/tiddlywiki-on-fission/projects/tiddlywiki-file-upload

As a backer, your feedback, use cases, and feature suggestions are prioritized. 
Your name and web link will be included in the README and other communications 
around the plugin.

As well as this plugin, I'd love feedback from you all on what you think about 
this model? Can you help spread the word? Are there companies that you know 
that would be interested?

Also, if anyone is interested in coming up with a different idea for a plugin 
or other TW related projects, I'm happy to help promote it and support you in 
using Open Collective to reach your goal.

For instance, I don't know who is in charge of the TiddlyWiki Discord server, 
but one of the things we do in the Fission server is give special roles to 
people who contribute to open collective projects, as another piece of 
recognition.

-- Boris

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Re: [tw5] [RFC] Sponsored development of tiddlywiki tools and solutions?

[Boris Mann]

I got all the video stuff uploaded and managed to ACTUALLY post a mail 
message announcing this funding after Joshua stole my thunder :P --> 
https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/21yCCLI0E7s

OpenCollective is a pretty great tool and very flexible. Some background: 
Jeremy and I agreed to experiment under the "TiddlyWiki on Fission" project 
name to not have to commit to having a fully "TiddlyWiki" branded open 
collective all in one go -- to let us experiment a bit. The nice thing is 
... if there IS interest in helping to administrate this and build around 
it, it COULD be transformed into a core TiddlyWiki funding destination.

If you look at the main project page, there are some membership / backer 
tiers there right at the 
top: https://opencollective.com/tiddlywiki-on-fission

The new file upload core plugin that Saq is going to work on is a separate 
project, lower down the page, and also has its own link and can set its own 
rewards: 
https://opencollective.com/tiddlywiki-on-fission/projects/tiddlywiki-file-upload
 
-- It has a one-time goal, a company sponsorship tier, and we'll plan to 
add additional goal for different kinds of backends / savers.

Also, on the "Fission collective pot" -- my idea for that is that backers 
would help determine who and what to fund. It really can be run as a 
collective.

Tones -- this perhaps doesn't quite address your needs. With the 
marketplace that Jeremy suggested, we might surface patreons (or other 
channels) to directly support creators and contributors. OpenCollective and 
the community rallying might take a little longer.

I've worked with a lot of open source focused creators and consultants, so 
I'm also happy to chat with you directly. If anyone ever wants to talk 
about anything related to open source, licensing, community contributions 
and so on, I'm happy to connect --> pick a time in my calendar and we'll 
have a chat https://calendly.com/borismann/global

It may also be helpful to schedule a live video meeting to cover some of 
these community topics. Let me know how else I can help!

On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 4:17:17 PM UTC-7 joshua@gmail.com wrote:

> For example, here is Boris donating money to the TW Open Collective to get 
> a feature funded:
>
>
> https://talk.fission.codes/t/tiddlywiki-file-upload-plugin-webnative-ipfs-funded/1926
>
> Best,
> Joshua Fontany
>
> On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 4:09:26 PM UTC-7 Joshua Fontany wrote:
>
>> On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 12:41:44 AM UTC-7 Ste wrote:
>> The tiddlywiki open collective which started up/ is linked with? 
>> Tiddlywiki on fission. 
>> https://opencollective.com/tiddlywiki-on-fission
>>
>> I wanted to mention this as well. The OpenCollective model looks really 
>> good for managing this type of "community pays community for projects" 
>> work. 
>>
>> Best,
>> Joshua Fontany
>>
>

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[tw5] Funding a core TiddlyWiki file uploads plugin

[Boris Mann]

At last week's Fission Demo Day, Jeremy presented and we also announced an 
initiative to build a plugin to support file uploads.

Saq very quickly reached out, we had a chat last week, and confirmed that 
he'll be leading the development of this as a core plugin.

The initial features include:
- create a new tiddler for each file
- link the file using a canonical URI
- resize images to create smaller thumbnails

I've personally funded the Webnative IPFS backend as the first thing that 
Saq will work on. Other backends / savers will be prioritized based on 
backers. There's an option for company sponsorship at a higher tier, with 
more direct recognition and promotion.

We've got a discussion thread in the Fission 
forum: 
https://talk.fission.codes/t/tiddlywiki-file-upload-plugin-webnative-ipfs-funded/1926

You can directly contribute on 
OpenCollective: 
https://opencollective.com/tiddlywiki-on-fission/projects/tiddlywiki-file-upload

As a backer, your feedback, use cases, and feature suggestions are 
prioritized. Your name and web link will be included in the README and 
other communications around the plugin.

As well as this plugin, I'd love feedback from you all on what you think 
about this model? Can you help spread the word? Are there companies that 
you know that would be interested?

Also, if anyone is interested in coming up with a different idea for a 
plugin or other TW related projects, I'm happy to help promote it and 
support you in using Open Collective to reach your goal.

For instance, I don't know who is in charge of the TiddlyWiki Discord 
server, but one of the things we do in the Fission server is give special 
roles to people who contribute to open collective projects, as another 
piece of recognition.

-- Boris

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Re: [tw5] Re: Experimenting with Help Panel

[Boris Mann]

Hello Mohammad!

Use Fission Drive to upload files. I’ll add some messaging to the home page 
about that.

Go to https://drive.fission.codes and click on Public. You can drag and drop 
any TiddlyWiki HTML file to upload.

Also a good thing to make a screencast about!

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Fission: Fast app publishing for front end devs to ship web native apps


On April 1, 2021 at 5:32 AM, Mohammad (mohammad.rahm...@gmail.com) wrote:
Hi Boris,
 How can I put my own Tiddlywiki/Fission edition on my public folder? So I can 
create new Tiddlywiki based on that!

Best wishes
Mohammad
On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 12:40:58 PM UTC+4:30 bo...@fission.codes wrote:
I'm slowly putting together a "Fission Edition" to teach myself how to put 
Editions together, and to have some interesting Core + Plugins + Content 
curated and targeted at those new to TiddlyWiki.

I'm working my way through all the Core plugins and found Help Panel. It's 
great! And, like all things TW, it's easily customizable.

I added in Dave Gifford's recent Customizer plugin video. Cool!
Two questions:

1) Tips on using Help Panel?

Anyone using it more "in the wild"? Customizations? Thoughts on how to use?

2) What if we had many more videos in there? What if it was easy for everyone 
to create videos and have them appear in the Help Panel?

Specifically, just quick little screencasts even. I added Dave Gifford's recent 
Customizer plugin video as an example 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rse3Cv6VRlI

I put mine on Vimeo, because they have a nice Chrome extension for screencasts 
https://talk.fission.codes/t/1767/2

I'm thinking that something super simple, like a Github repo where a JSON file 
can be maintained / published with video content, and then "consumed" by the 
Help Panel. There are probably tons of TW native ways of doing this if people 
have suggestions :P The goal being fresher content right in people's TW 
experience.

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[tw5] Re: Experimenting with Help Panel

[Boris Mann]

OK, I cheated and managed to capture Jeremy demo'ing drag and drop this 
morning https://talk.fission.codes/t/1767/3

And, since I'm mixing and matching YouTube and Vimeo videos, I edited Help 
Panel to wrap the embed code for YouTube in a reveal. Set the embed to "0" 
and just paste the embed code from whatever video service you're using in.

```
\define show-video(title)
<$reveal type="nomatch" state="$title$!!embed" text="0">
<$macrocall $name="show-video-inner" embed={{$title$!!embed}}/>

{{$title$!!text}}
\end
```

On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 1:10:58 AM UTC-7 Boris Mann wrote:

> I'm slowly putting together a "Fission Edition" to teach myself how to put 
> Editions together, and to have some interesting Core + Plugins + Content 
> curated and targeted at those new to TiddlyWiki.
>
> I'm working my way through all the Core plugins and found Help Panel. It's 
> great! And, like all things TW, it's easily customizable.
>
> I added in Dave Gifford's recent Customizer plugin video. Cool!
>
> Two questions:
>
> 1) Tips on using Help Panel?
>
> Anyone using it more "in the wild"? Customizations? Thoughts on how to use?
>
> 2) What if we had many more videos in there? What if it was easy for 
> everyone to create videos and have them appear in the Help Panel?
>
> Specifically, just quick little screencasts even. I added Dave Gifford's 
> recent Customizer plugin video as an example 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rse3Cv6VRlI
>
> I put mine on Vimeo, because they have a nice Chrome extension for 
> screencasts https://talk.fission.codes/t/1767/2
>
> I'm thinking that something super simple, like a Github repo where a JSON 
> file can be maintained / published with video content, and then "consumed" 
> by the Help Panel. There are probably tons of TW native ways of doing this 
> if people have suggestions :P The goal being fresher content right in 
> people's TW experience.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: How to create a shared TiddlyWiki accessible from multiple machines?

[Boris Mann]

Thanks Joshua! We don't have multi-user yet in TiddlyWiki on Fission, which 
is where it's really going to get interesting.

I had actually bookmarked this thread to share about my usage several years 
ago of a really interesting Google App Engine solution written in GoLang 
that used Google accounts to set login / permissions. It looks like it's 
still maintained by the author https://github.com/rsc/tiddly

It is NOT easy to install / setup, as this is full on cloud devops that is 
needed to setup and configure this. But, if you want to use it as a 
business, and use the Google Accounts at your business to control access, 
this totally does work.

On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 5:51:21 PM UTC-7 joshua@gmail.com wrote:

>
> At this point, Tiddlywiki-on-Fission is the easiest way to have a 
> "single-file wiki" sync to multiple machines and be editable/saveable back 
> tot he "same space".
>
> (Behind the scenes, Fission actually generates a unique ID for each 
> version of the document, and updates the "file location" to point to the 
> most recent unique ID, and your private folders are encrypted, while you 
> public folders are publicly available at your 
> NAME.files.fission.name/p/PATH/TO/INDEX/html).
>
> https://tiddlywiki.fission.app/
>
> Your first AUTH will help you setup your account. Go back to the 
> https://tiddlywiki.fission.app/ address if it doesn't spin you back there 
> after creating your account, and re-authorize. This is NEW STUFF. :)
>
> Best,
> Joshua F
>
> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 1:30:07 PM UTC-7 Mat wrote:
>
>> Maybe Bob?
>>
>> https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 31, 2021 at 4:11:32 PM UTC+2 matthew...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I want to create a wiki that I can use from work and at home. Because it 
>>> will have work stuff on, it needs to be stored somewhere private.
>>>
>>> I don't want to use Dropbox because it's not technically approved by my 
>>> employer for work use. And I don't want to use Google Drive because I have 
>>> a different Google account for work, so don't want to have to switch 
>>> accounts.
>>>
>>> I thought a private GitHub repo would be the answer, but I can't figure 
>>> out how that works across multiple machines - do I check out the repo on 
>>> each machine and work on the local file, pulling the latest version at the 
>>> start of each day?
>>>
>>> What is the current best method for a private, secure page I can use on 
>>> multiple machines?
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Chinese translated name of "TiddlyWiki" （「TiddlyWiki」 的中文译名 ）

[Boris Mann]

So, supreme palace enclosure reminds me of "mind palace" 
Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_of_loci

And of course TW is infinitesimal. This is lovely!

On Tuesday, March 30, 2021 at 8:13:10 PM UTC-7 malli...@gmail.com wrote:

> 太微 sounds great +1. From me
>
> On Wed, 31 Mar 2021, 10:47 Lin Onetwo,  wrote:
>
>> Here is discription in Chinese 
>> https://onetwo.ren/wiki/#TiddlyWiki%E7%9A%84%E4%B8%AD%E6%96%87%E8%AF%91%E5%90%8D
>>
>> 在2021年3月31日星期三 UTC+8 上午10:47:01 写道：
>>
>>>
>>> We rised a discussion of how TiddlyWiki can be translated into Chinese, 
>>> so it fits more into more advertisement context.
>>>
>>> We hope it keeps the more sounds like "TiddlyWiki" the better, and 
>>> encourage usage of  meaningful Chinese charactors instead of direct 
>>> transliteration.
>>>
>>> Among our candidates,  I think 「*太微*」 is the best, as it sounds TiWi, 
>>> and means Supreme Palace enclosure 
>>>  plus 
>>> "infinitesimal" at once.
>>>
>>> Other translations also have their goodies, here are the list.
>>>
>>>
>>>1. *太微*
>>>2. 微粒笔记
>>>3. 滴粒维基
>>>4. 天地维基
>>>5. 微维吧, 平常还能昵称做薇薇
>>>6. 她的名字，叫做小薇
>>>7. 微分维基
>>>8. 微基 或者……微玑
>>>9. 微维基
>>>10. 囊莹
>>>11. 集腋
>>>12. 泰得维基
>>>13. 态滴维基
>>>14. 太渧维基
>>>15. 无敌维基 吴迪维基
>>>16. 万能抽屉
>>>17. 卡片抽屉 抽屉笔记
>>>18. 滴粒轻卡
>>>19. 滴粒万能卡片
>>>20. 微粒，点滴，微积分，复利，利息，便条，便利贴，即时贴，卡片，小纸条，乐高，原子，分子，拼图块，…… 还可以想出很多这样的
>>>21. 微集
>>>22. 点滴维基
>>>23. 泰迪维基 小狗维基 小猫维基 小鱼维基
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[tw5] Experimenting with Help Panel

[Boris Mann]

I'm slowly putting together a "Fission Edition" to teach myself how to put 
Editions together, and to have some interesting Core + Plugins + Content 
curated and targeted at those new to TiddlyWiki.

I'm working my way through all the Core plugins and found Help Panel. It's 
great! And, like all things TW, it's easily customizable.

I added in Dave Gifford's recent Customizer plugin video. Cool!

Two questions:

1) Tips on using Help Panel?

Anyone using it more "in the wild"? Customizations? Thoughts on how to use?

2) What if we had many more videos in there? What if it was easy for 
everyone to create videos and have them appear in the Help Panel?

Specifically, just quick little screencasts even. I added Dave Gifford's 
recent Customizer plugin video as an 
example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rse3Cv6VRlI

I put mine on Vimeo, because they have a nice Chrome extension for 
screencasts https://talk.fission.codes/t/1767/2

I'm thinking that something super simple, like a Github repo where a JSON 
file can be maintained / published with video content, and then "consumed" 
by the Help Panel. There are probably tons of TW native ways of doing this 
if people have suggestions :P The goal being fresher content right in 
people's TW experience.

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Re: [tw5] TiddlyWiki demo and community chat next week

[Boris Mann]

The blog post and video from this week's community chat is up 
now https://blog.fission.codes/tiddlywiki-community-chat/

Thank you to Walt and karlicoss for being the first two backers of the 
OpenCollective! I've also responded to the specific questions about Open 
Collective elsewhere in the 
group https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/s3D1pwMnHMQ

I'll post a separate thread on a "call for editions" -- but basically, if 
you want to include your customized TiddlyWiki edition into TiddlyWiki on 
Fission by default, please let me know or just go ahead and file an issue 
with a link to your 
edition https://github.com/Jermolene/tiddlywiki-on-fission/issues

On Friday, March 19, 2021 at 1:03:59 AM UTC-7 Mohammad wrote:

> Thank you Boris!
> I am sure these recordings can be useful for both newbies and experienced 
> users.
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 11:27 AM Boris Mann  wrote:
>
>> So as it turned out, I messed up the recording and didn’t capture 
>> Jeremy’s demo.
>>
>> But — we’ll get a proper recording next week during the community call.
>>
>> The video from last month is available 
>> https://talk.fission.codes/t/tiddlywiki-on-fission-announcement-demo-with-jeremy/1596
>>  
>> — Jeremy has made a lot of progress since then. 
>>
>> --
>>
>> Boris Mann, Co-founder
>>
>> Fission: Fast app publishing for front end devs to ship web native apps
>>
>> On March 18, 2021 at 10:54 PM, Mohammad Rahmani (mohammad...@gmail.com) 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Boris,
>> Amazing, thank you so much for managing such sessions.
>>
>>  Is there any link to the recorded talks?
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 11:17 PM Boris Mann  wrote:
>>
>> Hi all!
>>
>> We're going to do a couple of live events with Jeremy, presenting what 
>> we've done with TiddlyWiki on Fission.
>>
>> Tomorrow, Thursday March 18th is our monthly Fission Demo Day 
>> <https://lu.ma/fission-march-2021> that Jeremy will be doing a short 
>> demo as part of the other updates from the Fission community.
>>
>> Next week is a dedicated hour long community session with Jeremy, to talk 
>> about TiddlyWiki on Fission (TWOF!). Please register to join us on 
>> Wednesday, March 24th, 7:30am PDT. <https://lu.ma/5j50g810>
>>
>> Aside from a walk through of how the TiddlyWiki on Fission is put 
>> together covering Jeremy's latest work, these other the topics we're 
>> proposing to cover:
>>
>>- *Including Editions in TiddlyWiki on Fission:* do you have an 
>>edition or would you like to make an edition that is included in the 
>>default bundle?
>>- *Launching your own TiddlyWiki apps:* can Fission help more of you 
>>create custom Editions for people?
>>- *Desired plugins, improvements, or new features: *what are often 
>>requested features you'd love to see?
>>- *Community Funding with Open Collective:* Jeremy and I have created 
>>an OpenCollective <https://opencollective.com/tiddlywiki-on-fission>. 
>>It's live now, consider it an experiment and open for any and all 
>>discussions. The goal would be to pool funds and hire people in the 
>>community to implement features over time.
>>
>>
>> Any other topics you'd like to discuss or questions you'd like to ask, 
>> please reply here or come add them as a comment in the forum 
>> <https://talk.fission.codes/t/tiddlywiki-community-call-march-24th-2021/1706>
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Re: [tw5] [REQUEST] Jeremy - questions about the Tiddlywiki-on-Fission funding campaign

[Boris Mann]

Hey all!

I wanted to chime in and say that this is an experiment. I suggested we 
experiment with OpenCollective and Jeremy agreed as he stated. It's part 
KickStarter, part community bank account.

It's labeled as "TiddlyWiki on Fission" I guess because we didn't 
necessarily want to scope it to the whole project as an experiment. That is 
open for discussion -- and depends on both the community and Jeremy. Do we 
want to just call it TiddlyWiki OpenCollective? Who wants to help?

Roughly, this is how I see it working:

We'll look for features, plugins, and other work that people are interested 
in funding. Right now there is just the monthly / annual backing buckets, 
which is a financial vote that says "I like where this is going, I want to 
see more like this!". We may add other perks -- e.g. I want to get some 
stickers made if there is interest, and people who donate can get stickers 
for free / use OpenCollective to pay for stickers.

We can then add an additional goal to the page. I'll use an example that 
has been discussed before, created a TiddlyWiki Discourse forum. 
Professional hosting for that is about $50 / month. So, we'd want to 
collect at least $50 per month in ongoing contributions to pay for the 
costs of that. All those costs are transparent and listed as part of the 
platform.

Finally, the really interesting part (I think). Let's say there is a 
feature like ExternalImages drag and drop plugin (I don't know if this 
exists or not, so let's just say it doesn't). We can even ask ahead of time 
who has time / interest to do it, and determine that we should raise $1000 
to pay for the open source creation of this plugin. We raise the funds, and 
a community member who is more developer oriented does the work. The 
community has a new plugin that is available to all.

And this of course extends to documentation, design, or any other aspects. 
Can we enable people who need to be able to commit time away from their day 
job to do paid TW work at a small scale? Could the community start funding 
a part time position on an ongoing basis to focus on the software, 
community tooling, or other aspects? Where in the world would $500USD / 
month be a way to have TiddlyWiki as someone's "day job"?

I had hoped we would dig into this a bit more live on the community call 
but we covered a lot. If people are interested, I'm happy to host a call 
just on this topic. 


On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 2:57:57 PM UTC-7 dieg...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey Jeremy,
>
> Thanks for your answers. Im happy to contribute to the TW community, and 
> to you for all your work on TW. I just wasn't sure how exactly this Fission 
> (backed? sponsored? held?) funding initiative related to the main project.
>
> In other words, before people sign up to be a monthly or even yearly 
> contributor, it might be worth clarifying that their contributions aren't 
> just to a specific small part of the TW world (a saver), or to an entirely 
> different project (Fission), but instead to the TW community itself! 
>
> Thanks again,
> Diego
>
> On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 at 2:01:53 PM UTC-5 jeremy...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Diego
>>
>> Can you (or anyone) help clarify what the open collective funding project 
>> is for Tiddlywiki on Fission?
>>
>>
>> Fission have a vision around open source communities using Open 
>> Collective as a way for members of the community to financially support the 
>> people making the software, and the infrastructure that the community uses. 
>> A sort of lightweight version of Kickstarter for crowdfunding the ongoing 
>> development of plugins and editions.
>>
>> It’s an area that has always interested me, but also gives me some 
>> nervousness. The challenge is that there is a paradox: at least speaking 
>> for myself, I’m not really doing all of this for money, the compulsion is 
>> deeper, and the true rewards are in the interactions I have with the 
>> community. But simultaneously, we all need money to survive.
>>
>> Happily, move adventurous people than me have been exploring this stuff 
>> for many years, which is how Open Collective came into existence, and the 
>> model seems to be enduring.
>>
>> TiddlyWiki on Fission gives us an opportunity to explore these ideas in 
>> real life.
>>
>> https://opencollective.com/tiddlywiki-on-fission
>>
>> As in,
>>
>>- Who are we paying?
>>
>> The money is being held ready for distribution.
>>
>>
>>- What are we paying for?
>>
>> That’s for us to decide
>>
>>
>>- Are you getting that money?
>>
>> Emphatically not Jeremy, or Fission. This is Fission bootstrapping 
>> infrastructure on behalf of the community for us to explore and develop as 
>> we see fit.
>>
>>
>>- If so, how much?
>>- Is that also for general TW improvements? Or is it specific to 
>>TW-on-Fission?
>>
>> Our immediate goals are around TWoF, if things work well perhaps we’ll 
>> bring it to the main project.
>>
>>
>>- Will this outlive the TW on fission 

Re: [tw5] TiddlyWiki demo and community chat next week

[Boris Mann]

So as it turned out, I messed up the recording and didn’t capture Jeremy’s demo.

But — we’ll get a proper recording next week during the community call.

The video from last month is available 
https://talk.fission.codes/t/tiddlywiki-on-fission-announcement-demo-with-jeremy/1596
 — Jeremy has made a lot of progress since then.

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On March 18, 2021 at 10:54 PM, Mohammad Rahmani (mohammad.rahm...@gmail.com) 
wrote:
Hi Boris,
Amazing, thank you so much for managing such sessions.

 Is there any link to the recorded talks?



Best wishes
Mohammad



On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 11:17 PM Boris Mann  wrote:
Hi all!

We're going to do a couple of live events with Jeremy, presenting what we've 
done with TiddlyWiki on Fission.

Tomorrow, Thursday March 18th is our monthly Fission Demo Day ( 
https://lu.ma/fission-march-2021 ) that Jeremy will be doing a short demo as 
part of the other updates from the Fission community.

Next week is a dedicated hour long community session with Jeremy, to talk about 
TiddlyWiki on Fission (TWOF!). Please register to join us on Wednesday, March 
24th, 7:30am PDT. ( https://lu.ma/5j50g810 )

Aside from a walk through of how the TiddlyWiki on Fission is put together 
covering Jeremy's latest work, these other the topics we're proposing to cover:
* Including Editions in TiddlyWiki on Fission: do you have an edition or would 
you like to make an edition that is included in the default bundle?
* Launching your own TiddlyWiki apps: can Fission help more of you create 
custom Editions for people?
* Desired plugins, improvements, or new features: what are often requested 
features you'd love to see?
* Community Funding with Open Collective: Jeremy and I have created an 
OpenCollective. It's live now, consider it an experiment and open for any and 
all discussions. The goal would be to pool funds and hire people in the 
community to implement features over time.

Any other topics you'd like to discuss or questions you'd like to ask, please 
reply here or come add them as a comment in the forum ( 
https://talk.fission.codes/t/tiddlywiki-community-call-march-24th-2021/1706 ).
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[tw5] TiddlyWiki demo and community chat next week

[Boris Mann]

Hi all!

We're going to do a couple of live events with Jeremy, presenting what 
we've done with TiddlyWiki on Fission.

Tomorrow, Thursday March 18th is our monthly Fission Demo Day 
 that Jeremy will be doing a short demo 
as part of the other updates from the Fission community.

Next week is a dedicated hour long community session with Jeremy, to talk 
about TiddlyWiki on Fission (TWOF!). Please register to join us on 
Wednesday, March 24th, 7:30am PDT. 

Aside from a walk through of how the TiddlyWiki on Fission is put together 
covering Jeremy's latest work, these other the topics we're proposing to 
cover:

   - *Including Editions in TiddlyWiki on Fission:* do you have an edition 
   or would you like to make an edition that is included in the default bundle?
   - *Launching your own TiddlyWiki apps:* can Fission help more of you 
   create custom Editions for people?
   - *Desired plugins, improvements, or new features: *what are often 
   requested features you'd love to see?
   - *Community Funding with Open Collective:* Jeremy and I have created an 
   OpenCollective . It's 
   live now, consider it an experiment and open for any and all discussions. 
   The goal would be to pool funds and hire people in the community to 
   implement features over time.


Any other topics you'd like to discuss or questions you'd like to ask, 
please reply here or come add them as a comment in the forum 

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[tw5] TiddlyWIki on Fission, new saver & host - live video chat tomorrow

[Boris Mann]

Hi everyone!

I wanted to introduce myself. I’m the founder of Fission, which is an app 
publishing platform that is open source and “serverless”, where we make 
everything work in the browser. I’ve also used and tinkered with TiddlyWiki 
for many years.

I’m working with Jeremy to add support for our webnative SDK to TiddlyWiki, 
so that people can use it as a saver that should work anywhere that you 
have access to a browser, including on mobile.

We also want to talk to anyone that wants to host / run customized 
TiddlyWikis or Editions. Our goal with Fission is to empower digital 
creators to run their own apps, including selling them to people, without 
having to build an entire SaaS platform.

The TiddlyWiki forum on the Fission Discourse 
 is where we’re going to 
be discussing features and functions, plus I’ll be here in the Google Group 
as well.

I’d like to invite you all to come to a live video chat tomorrow, Feb 18th, 
at 9am PST / 12pm EST / 1800 CET. You can sign up here to attend Fission 
Demo Day Feb 2021 - Zoom 

P.S. If you stop by the forum, say hello to Flag Cat 
,
 
the first mascot for TiddlyWiki + Fission.

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