[tw] Re: [Plugin] Dropboard 1.0.0 — Kanban like organization in the style of Trello using boards, lists, and cards.

[Reid Gould]

Release 1.0.2

Fixed a display error when using fixed-fluid layout where cards are too 
wide.

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On Sunday, November 19, 2017 at 4:01:05 PM UTC-6, Reid Gould wrote:
>
> Release 1.0.1 is live. 
>
> It fixes an issue ( 
> https://github.com/reidgould/tiddlywiki-dropboard/issues/3 ) seen in 
> TiddlyDesktop where cards overlap in lists that are long enough to scroll.
>
> Only the best for you and your wikis,
> [image: Reid Gould]
> www.ReidGould.com <http://www.reidgould.com/> 
> (210) 617-0712 
> /in/reidgould <https://www.linkedin.com/in/reidgould> 
> @rd_gld <https://twitter.com/rd_gld> 
>
>
>
> On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 2:34:59 PM UTC-5, Reid Gould wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QT9htsLcGpY/WfN0-86EARI/D4I/h4dayyRkNv0MAIrVztXBlPF4u6OQ7GS1wCLcBGAs/s1600/Dropboard.png>
>>
>> Dropboard 1.0.0
>>
>> Dropboard version 1 has arrived! It is now safe, stable, and ready for 
>> use as a permanent installation in your wikis.
>>
>> See the source on GitHub:
>> https://github.com/reidgould/tiddlywiki-dropboard
>>
>> Learn from the examples and documentation in the User Guide:
>> http://reidgould.github.io/tiddlywiki-dropboard
>>
>> Here's a quick overview of the major features.
>>
>> Kanban like organization in the style of Trello using boards, lists, and 
>> cards... But better! 
>> Dropboard has:
>>
>>- Full integration with TiddlyWiki. Drag any tiddler into a board.
>>- Collapsible lists that you can still drag cards into.
>>- Lots of features to improve workflow and setup the view of your 
>>board to be just right for the task at hand.
>>
>>
>>
>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-12H5nb4s2E0/WfN3nz-zWxI/D4w/yDzcgPX2iXcFG9TaApBG8KKvP-nxbmMKwCLcBGAs/s1600/My%2BTask%2BBoard.PNG>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> View and edit a huge amount of data at once using window mode and scaling 
>> down your font size.
>>
>>
>>
>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-LDvP3ytwYFU/WfN3y1wdVmI/D44/G3bdq_iWBYId_uEwTXzJvOtL-5_oMcOdQCLcBGAs/s1600/Table%2BOf%2BContents%2BEditor%2B-%2BFeatures.PNG>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> A full Trello style palette for TiddlyWiki called TWello!
>>
>>
>>
>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-o7SqKLMqkJ8/WfN5HALRYyI/D5I/U0v06mKOQhwJoxWLSc6s5p0Hsc0JqnW1gCLcBGAs/s1600/TWello.PNG>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dropboard has been made completely by myself on my own time, and it's 
>> taken quite a lot of it! The reason I spent the time to complete this 
>> project is to be a key part of my design portfolio as I transition my 
>> career into Software Engineering. 
>>
>> I have a list of features that I would love to add to create a Dropboard 
>> version 2.0.0, but unfortunately this is all the time I can spend on this 
>> project for free. If you're interested in supporting the next version of 
>> this plugin you can support me on Patreon.
>>
>>
>> <https://www.patreon.com/reidgould>
>>
>> https://www.patreon.com/reidgould
>>
>>
>> Special thanks to all the community members 
>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/bfBc9RokgdA> who 
>> offered some great suggestions and helped hunt down bugs!
>> Only the best for you and your wikis,
>> [image: Reid Gould]
>> www.ReidGould.com <http://www.reidgould.com/> 
>> (210) 617-0712 
>> /in/reidgould <https://www.linkedin.com/in/reidgould> 
>> @rd_gld <https://twitter.com/rd_gld> 
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: [Plugin] Dropboard 1.0.0 — Kanban like organization in the style of Trello using boards, lists, and cards.

[Reid Gould]

Release 1.0.1 is live. 

It fixes an issue ( 
https://github.com/reidgould/tiddlywiki-dropboard/issues/3 ) seen in 
TiddlyDesktop where cards overlap in lists that are long enough to scroll.

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On Friday, October 27, 2017 at 2:34:59 PM UTC-5, Reid Gould wrote:
>
>
>
> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QT9htsLcGpY/WfN0-86EARI/D4I/h4dayyRkNv0MAIrVztXBlPF4u6OQ7GS1wCLcBGAs/s1600/Dropboard.png>
>
> Dropboard 1.0.0
>
> Dropboard version 1 has arrived! It is now safe, stable, and ready for use 
> as a permanent installation in your wikis.
>
> See the source on GitHub:
> https://github.com/reidgould/tiddlywiki-dropboard
>
> Learn from the examples and documentation in the User Guide:
> http://reidgould.github.io/tiddlywiki-dropboard
>
> Here's a quick overview of the major features.
>
> Kanban like organization in the style of Trello using boards, lists, and 
> cards... But better! 
> Dropboard has:
>
>- Full integration with TiddlyWiki. Drag any tiddler into a board.
>- Collapsible lists that you can still drag cards into.
>- Lots of features to improve workflow and setup the view of your 
>board to be just right for the task at hand.
>
>
>
> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-12H5nb4s2E0/WfN3nz-zWxI/D4w/yDzcgPX2iXcFG9TaApBG8KKvP-nxbmMKwCLcBGAs/s1600/My%2BTask%2BBoard.PNG>
>
>
>
>
>
> View and edit a huge amount of data at once using window mode and scaling 
> down your font size.
>
>
>
> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-LDvP3ytwYFU/WfN3y1wdVmI/D44/G3bdq_iWBYId_uEwTXzJvOtL-5_oMcOdQCLcBGAs/s1600/Table%2BOf%2BContents%2BEditor%2B-%2BFeatures.PNG>
>
>
>
>
> A full Trello style palette for TiddlyWiki called TWello!
>
>
>
> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-o7SqKLMqkJ8/WfN5HALRYyI/D5I/U0v06mKOQhwJoxWLSc6s5p0Hsc0JqnW1gCLcBGAs/s1600/TWello.PNG>
>
>
>
>
> Dropboard has been made completely by myself on my own time, and it's 
> taken quite a lot of it! The reason I spent the time to complete this 
> project is to be a key part of my design portfolio as I transition my 
> career into Software Engineering. 
>
> I have a list of features that I would love to add to create a Dropboard 
> version 2.0.0, but unfortunately this is all the time I can spend on this 
> project for free. If you're interested in supporting the next version of 
> this plugin you can support me on Patreon.
>
>
> <https://www.patreon.com/reidgould>
>
> https://www.patreon.com/reidgould
>
>
> Special thanks to all the community members 
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/bfBc9RokgdA> who 
> offered some great suggestions and helped hunt down bugs!
> Only the best for you and your wikis,
> [image: Reid Gould]
> www.ReidGould.com <http://www.reidgould.com/> 
> (210) 617-0712 
> /in/reidgould <https://www.linkedin.com/in/reidgould> 
> @rd_gld <https://twitter.com/rd_gld> 
>
>

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[tw] Re: [Plugin] Dropboard 1.0.0 — Kanban like organization in the style of Trello using boards, lists, and cards.

[Reid Gould]

Peter,

There was also an HTTP redirect involved which could have been cached by 
the browser. It's now working on my devices. If anyone else is reading, can 
we get another party to confirm?

I ultimately decided not to use "caption" in favor of a new field 
"shorttext", which is one of the text fields seen in the card edit 
template. The main TiddlyWiki docs <http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlerFields> 
describe "caption" as "The text to be displayed on a tab or button." On a 
conceptual level, "shorttext" is a second field of content where "caption" 
is more like metadata. In practice, cards tend to have more text than would 
make sense by the above description, and the final straw was the decision 
to support inline wiki styles which wouldn't be appropriate to store in 
"caption" at all. 
In a future version, I would consider adding display of "caption" to the 
card, but it would be along side the current way "shorttext" display takes 
priority over "title". Feel free to open a GitHub issue if you like.
If you want to hack in something to use for yourself, overriding 
"$:/plugins/reidgould/dpbd/templates/view/CardMacros" is the place to start.
You can find more information 
<https://reidgould.github.io/tiddlywiki-dropboard/#'shorttext'%20Field> 
about "shorttext" in the User Guide.

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On Monday, November 13, 2017 at 9:58:53 PM UTC-6, Peter Dawson wrote:
>
> Thanks Reid,  I did ipconfig /flushdns. But it is still not working for 
> me. I am now up and running with DropBoard in my personal wiki, and I have 
> the user manual working via nodejs. But it would be nice to have a 
> hard-link to the usermanual. 
>
> One additional question. Is there a way to use a caption as the display 
> name for list titles rather than the full name of the tiddler? The 
> traditional caption attibute didn't seem to work for me.
>
> On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 11:16:34 AM UTC+10, Reid Gould wrote:
>>
>> Hi Peter and Yang,
>>
>> Thanks for alerting me to the problem. I made a mistake with my DNS 
>> settings this weekend. The issue should be fixed now, please clear your 
>> browser cache and try again.
>> If it still doesn't work or if you have any other questions to get 
>> started, let me know.
>>
>> Only the best for you and your wikis,
>> [image: Reid Gould]
>> www.ReidGould.com <http://www.reidgould.com/> 
>> (210) 617-0712 
>> /in/reidgould <https://www.linkedin.com/in/reidgould> 
>> @rd_gld <https://twitter.com/rd_gld> 
>>
>>
>> On Monday, November 13, 2017 at 6:56:07 PM UTC-6, Yang Wen-Ming wrote:
>>>
>>> I suffered the same situation, too.
>>>
>>> Peter Dawson於 2017年11月14日星期二 UTC+8上午8時24分20秒寫道：
>>>>
>>>> Hi Reid,
>>>> Can you help me get started with this? When I click on 
>>>> http://reidgould.github.io/tiddlywiki-dropboard it just brings me to 
>>>> the github page. Ie. Not a tiddlywiki???
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>>

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[tw] Re: [Plugin] Dropboard 1.0.0 — Kanban like organization in the style of Trello using boards, lists, and cards.

[Reid Gould]

Hi Peter and Yang,

Thanks for alerting me to the problem. I made a mistake with my DNS 
settings this weekend. The issue should be fixed now, please clear your 
browser cache and try again.
If it still doesn't work or if you have any other questions to get started, 
let me know.

Only the best for you and your wikis,
[image: Reid Gould]
www.ReidGould.com <http://www.reidgould.com/> 
(210) 617-0712 
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@rd_gld <https://twitter.com/rd_gld> 


On Monday, November 13, 2017 at 6:56:07 PM UTC-6, Yang Wen-Ming wrote:
>
> I suffered the same situation, too.
>
> Peter Dawson於 2017年11月14日星期二 UTC+8上午8時24分20秒寫道：
>>
>> Hi Reid,
>> Can you help me get started with this? When I click on 
>> http://reidgould.github.io/tiddlywiki-dropboard it just brings me to the 
>> github page. Ie. Not a tiddlywiki???
>> Thanks
>> Peter
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Preparing for 5.1.15 and the Firefox Apocalypse

[Reid Gould]

Thanks for starting that PR for me, Mark!

- Reid

On Saturday, November 11, 2017 at 1:32:29 PM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote:
>
> PR #3009
>
> On Saturday, November 11, 2017 at 10:38:33 AM UTC-8, Reid Gould wrote:
>>
>> I'd be delighted if Dropboard were to be included in the community links.
>>
>>
>> *"Dropboard" plugin by Reid Gould*
>>
>> A plugin for kanban like organization in the style of Trello using 
>>> boards, lists, and cards. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Launch Post:
>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/0YDWlU0Ls4Y 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Plugin User Guide:
>>> https://reidgould.github.io/tiddlywiki-dropboard 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Source:
>>> https://github.com/reidgould/tiddlywiki-dropboard
>>
>>
>>
>> Only the best for you and your wikis,
>> [image: Reid Gould]
>> www.ReidGould.com <http://www.reidgould.com/> 
>> (210) 617-0712 
>> /in/reidgould <https://www.linkedin.com/in/reidgould> 
>> @rd_gld <https://twitter.com/rd_gld> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, November 10, 2017 at 11:50:28 AM UTC-6, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>
>>> I’ve been making preparations for releasing 5.1.15 over this coming 
>>> weekend, the 11th and 12th November — particularly prompted by the imminent 
>>> Firefox Apocalypse.
>>>
>>> I wanted to invite submissions for community links to go into the 
>>> “Community” tiddler — I’m acutely aware that many recent projects are 
>>> unlisted, and I’d welcome any help.
>>>
>>> So far, I have done the following:
>>>
>>> * Added a new tiddler about the Firefox Apocalypse
>>> * Added a new graphic for the 5.1.15 release
>>> * Added a few new community links for some recently released projects 
>>> that happened to be open in my browser
>>>
>>> My next step is to refactor the material about saving changes (the 
>>> material within the Getting Started tiddler, and under the Working with 
>>> TiddlyWiki/Saving section of the TOC). I’m intending to cover the following 
>>> methods of saving changes:
>>>
>>>- Arlen’s updated TiddlyWiki in the Sky for Dropbox
>>>- AndTidWiki
>>>- Beaker Browser
>>>- Download Saver
>>>- HTA Hack
>>>- Node.js
>>>- Noteself
>>>- PHP/Upload script
>>>- Quine for iOS
>>>- savetiddlers
>>>- TiddlyDesktop
>>>- TiddlyDrive
>>>- TiddlyIE
>>>- TiddlySpot
>>>- WebDAV
>>>
>>> Again, I’d welcome any suggestions for methods that I’ve left out.
>>>
>>> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/ 
>>> <http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Firefox+Apocalypse>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy.
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[tw] Re: Preparing for 5.1.15 and the Firefox Apocalypse

[Reid Gould]

I'd be delighted if Dropboard were to be included in the community links.


*"Dropboard" plugin by Reid Gould*

A plugin for kanban like organization in the style of Trello using boards, 
> lists, and cards. 

 

Launch Post:
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/0YDWlU0Ls4Y 

 

Plugin User Guide:
> https://reidgould.github.io/tiddlywiki-dropboard 

 

Source:
> https://github.com/reidgould/tiddlywiki-dropboard



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On Friday, November 10, 2017 at 11:50:28 AM UTC-6, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I’ve been making preparations for releasing 5.1.15 over this coming 
> weekend, the 11th and 12th November — particularly prompted by the imminent 
> Firefox Apocalypse.
>
> I wanted to invite submissions for community links to go into the 
> “Community” tiddler — I’m acutely aware that many recent projects are 
> unlisted, and I’d welcome any help.
>
> So far, I have done the following:
>
> * Added a new tiddler about the Firefox Apocalypse
> * Added a new graphic for the 5.1.15 release
> * Added a few new community links for some recently released projects that 
> happened to be open in my browser
>
> My next step is to refactor the material about saving changes (the 
> material within the Getting Started tiddler, and under the Working with 
> TiddlyWiki/Saving section of the TOC). I’m intending to cover the following 
> methods of saving changes:
>
>- Arlen’s updated TiddlyWiki in the Sky for Dropbox
>- AndTidWiki
>- Beaker Browser
>- Download Saver
>- HTA Hack
>- Node.js
>- Noteself
>- PHP/Upload script
>- Quine for iOS
>- savetiddlers
>- TiddlyDesktop
>- TiddlyDrive
>- TiddlyIE
>- TiddlySpot
>- WebDAV
>
> Again, I’d welcome any suggestions for methods that I’ve left out.
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/ 
> <http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Firefox+Apocalypse>
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>

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[tw] Re: So, TW Desktop?

[Reid Gould]

While still listed as "experimental", a neat feature added in 0.0.7 release 
<http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyDesktop%20Release%200.0.7> is the "Add A 
TiddlyWiki Folder" button. It allows you to use a folder of individual tid 
files instead of a monolithic HTML file. This is an advantage for file 
saving because it only has to overwrite the few KB in the tiddlers that you 
changed instead of overwriting a multiple MB file each time. Also, there's 
occasions when I like to just edit one thing with a text editor, and that 
is much easier and safer with individual files.

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On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 10:06:14 AM UTC-6, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> I saw the Vid. 
>
> To me, it looks a lot like the same thing as the web version. Are there 
> any functional differences? I know that with the new Firefox, I'll probably 
> want to use it for fluid saving process... but besides that? What are some 
> good user-case scenarios when it's better to use it than the browser 
> version? 
>

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[tw] Re: Presenting: BLC Plugin! For kanban like organization in the style of Trello using boards, lists, and cards.

[Reid Gould]

Dropboard <http://reidgould.github.io/tiddlywiki-dropboard> version 1.0.0 
has arrived!

See the new post here 
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/0YDWlU0Ls4Y> for an 
overview of major features. There are some new examples and much more 
information in the User Guide now, so take a look around.

If you want to upgrade a wiki from an older version, there's just one extra 
step you should follow:

   - Uninstall Dropboard 0.X.X
   - For each tiddler you have used as a board:
  - Search for "Tiddler Name" and remove any tiddlers that have names 
  like these (if you haven't been using the controls on the banner, there 
may 
  be none.):
 - Tiddler Name-BoardHeight_Stage
 - Tiddler Name-ListWidt_Stage
 - Tiddler Name-SearchListFilter_Live
 - Tiddler Name-SearchListFilter_Stage
 - Tiddler Name-UserFilter_Live
 - Tiddler Name-UserFilter_Stage
 - Click the edit button and in the "fields" area at the bottom, 
  delete any fields with these names (if you haven't been using the 
controls 
  on the banner, there may be none.):
 - 
 - listwidth-em
 - listwidth-num
 - boardheight
 - displayimages
 - displaytext
 - widthismax
 - collapse_in
  - Install Dropboard 1.0.0 and shortid Plugin (both found on the User 
   Guide)

Thanks for all your help getting Dropboard this far!

Regards,
[image: Reid Gould]
www.ReidGould.com <http://www.reidgould.com/> 
(210) 617-0712 
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On Friday, October 6, 2017 at 3:38:04 PM UTC-5, Reid Gould wrote:
>
> To all,
>
> Dropboard is almost here!
>
> All features and interface changes for version 1 are now done. STILL WAIT 
> to use it in a permanent installation, very soon it will be renamed to 
> "Dropboard" and any last bugs found ironed out.
>
> Over in the dev group (post here 
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywikidev/x9uduGqfxUM>), I'm 
> asking for code review of "Release Candidate 1" from any developers who 
> would be so generous with their time. I need help making sure this plugin 
> is as stable and safe to use as possible!
>
> Some notable changes are:
>
>- Restyle of the Control Banner for a much slimmer look.
>- Button to view the board in the SideBar.
>- Button to open the board in a new window, maximized and with 
>sensible display options.
>- "shorttext" now displays WikiText formatting reliably for inline 
>styles, including making images and icons fit on a line of text.
>- "shorttext" now warns the user if a newline is typed in the edit 
>template.
>- Many fixes of other display issues, especially so the board looks 
>good at small and large text sizes.
>- Large improvements in internal handling of board state and code 
>quality.
>
> When Dropboard is released, the "User Guide" wiki will have many more 
> examples of use and much more documentation about how it works, so 
> hopefully everyone will be able to find any good bits I forgot to mention 
> in the change lists for these previews.
>
> Happy tagging,
>
> - Reid
>
>
> On Saturday, September 16, 2017 at 4:05:10 PM UTC-5, Reid Gould wrote:
>>
>> To all,
>>
>> The third and final "feature preview" release is available! Version 0.1.3 
>> contains all the features I'm planning on including in the version 1 
>> release. This version should contain no bugs or unexpected behaviors. STILL 
>> WAIT to use it in a permanent installation, I'm tidying up internal naming 
>> and how I'm saving some of the temporary state associated with boards and I 
>> won't be providing an upgrade path from version 0 to version 1.
>>
>> New features and significant changes include:
>>
>>- The "Search Filter" list. when a filter is typed into this control, 
>>a special list appears on the side which contains results from tiddlers 
>> in 
>>the wiki that are outside the board. This is very handy way to import 
>>tiddlers onto the board, or maybe even to pop up a temporary board just 
>> to 
>>quickly sort a bunch of tiddlers into tags, then delete the board if you 
>>don't need it.
>>- "New Card" now generates titles using the shortid plugin, which 
>>makes a string of letters and numbers that is URL friendly and 
>>cryptographically guaranteed to be unique. The old way just used a 
>>timestamp, which is not good for sharing with others and redundant with 
>> the 
>>"created&quo

[tw] [Plugin] Dropboard 1.0.0 — Kanban like organization in the style of Trello using boards, lists, and cards.

[Reid Gould]

<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QT9htsLcGpY/WfN0-86EARI/D4I/h4dayyRkNv0MAIrVztXBlPF4u6OQ7GS1wCLcBGAs/s1600/Dropboard.png>

Dropboard 1.0.0

Dropboard version 1 has arrived! It is now safe, stable, and ready for use 
as a permanent installation in your wikis.

See the source on GitHub:
https://github.com/reidgould/tiddlywiki-dropboard

Learn from the examples and documentation in the User Guide:
http://reidgould.github.io/tiddlywiki-dropboard

Here's a quick overview of the major features.

Kanban like organization in the style of Trello using boards, lists, and 
cards... But better! 
Dropboard has:

   - Full integration with TiddlyWiki. Drag any tiddler into a board.
   - Collapsible lists that you can still drag cards into.
   - Lots of features to improve workflow and setup the view of your board 
   to be just right for the task at hand.


<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-12H5nb4s2E0/WfN3nz-zWxI/D4w/yDzcgPX2iXcFG9TaApBG8KKvP-nxbmMKwCLcBGAs/s1600/My%2BTask%2BBoard.PNG>





View and edit a huge amount of data at once using window mode and scaling 
down your font size.


<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-LDvP3ytwYFU/WfN3y1wdVmI/D44/G3bdq_iWBYId_uEwTXzJvOtL-5_oMcOdQCLcBGAs/s1600/Table%2BOf%2BContents%2BEditor%2B-%2BFeatures.PNG>




A full Trello style palette for TiddlyWiki called TWello!


<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-o7SqKLMqkJ8/WfN5HALRYyI/D5I/U0v06mKOQhwJoxWLSc6s5p0Hsc0JqnW1gCLcBGAs/s1600/TWello.PNG>




Dropboard has been made completely by myself on my own time, and it's taken 
quite a lot of it! The reason I spent the time to complete this project is 
to be a key part of my design portfolio as I transition my career into 
Software Engineering. 

I have a list of features that I would love to add to create a Dropboard 
version 2.0.0, but unfortunately this is all the time I can spend on this 
project for free. If you're interested in supporting the next version of 
this plugin you can support me on Patreon.


<https://www.patreon.com/reidgould>

https://www.patreon.com/reidgould


Special thanks to all the community members 
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/bfBc9RokgdA> who 
offered some great suggestions and helped hunt down bugs!
Only the best for you and your wikis,
[image: Reid Gould]
www.ReidGould.com <http://www.reidgould.com/> 
(210) 617-0712 
/in/reidgould <https://www.linkedin.com/in/reidgould> 
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[tw] Re: Presenting: BLC Plugin! For kanban like organization in the style of Trello using boards, lists, and cards.

[Reid Gould]

To all,

Dropboard is almost here!

All features and interface changes for version 1 are now done. STILL WAIT 
to use it in a permanent installation, very soon it will be renamed to 
"Dropboard" and any last bugs found ironed out.

Over in the dev group (post here 
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywikidev/x9uduGqfxUM>), I'm 
asking for code review of "Release Candidate 1" from any developers who 
would be so generous with their time. I need help making sure this plugin 
is as stable and safe to use as possible!

Some notable changes are:

   - Restyle of the Control Banner for a much slimmer look.
   - Button to view the board in the SideBar.
   - Button to open the board in a new window, maximized and with sensible 
   display options.
   - "shorttext" now displays WikiText formatting reliably for inline 
   styles, including making images and icons fit on a line of text.
   - "shorttext" now warns the user if a newline is typed in the edit 
   template.
   - Many fixes of other display issues, especially so the board looks good 
   at small and large text sizes.
   - Large improvements in internal handling of board state and code 
   quality.

When Dropboard is released, the "User Guide" wiki will have many more 
examples of use and much more documentation about how it works, so 
hopefully everyone will be able to find any good bits I forgot to mention 
in the change lists for these previews.

Happy tagging,

- Reid


On Saturday, September 16, 2017 at 4:05:10 PM UTC-5, Reid Gould wrote:
>
> To all,
>
> The third and final "feature preview" release is available! Version 0.1.3 
> contains all the features I'm planning on including in the version 1 
> release. This version should contain no bugs or unexpected behaviors. STILL 
> WAIT to use it in a permanent installation, I'm tidying up internal naming 
> and how I'm saving some of the temporary state associated with boards and I 
> won't be providing an upgrade path from version 0 to version 1.
>
> New features and significant changes include:
>
>- The "Search Filter" list. when a filter is typed into this control, 
>a special list appears on the side which contains results from tiddlers in 
>the wiki that are outside the board. This is very handy way to import 
>tiddlers onto the board, or maybe even to pop up a temporary board just to 
>quickly sort a bunch of tiddlers into tags, then delete the board if you 
>don't need it.
>- "New Card" now generates titles using the shortid plugin, which 
>makes a string of letters and numbers that is URL friendly and 
>cryptographically guaranteed to be unique. The old way just used a 
>timestamp, which is not good for sharing with others and redundant with 
> the 
>"created" field.
>- Improved "boardHeight" and "listWidth" controls, including the 
>ability to snap to a number of lists visible that will change with the 
> size 
>of your window, and the ability to set the height to 100% to fit perfectly 
>when using "Open in a New Window". 
>- Board title shows up in the separated windows.
>- More powerful user filter for cards on the board. The user filter is 
>now appended to the end of the filter that generates the content of each 
>list, so you can type any number of runs which should always start with 
> the 
>"+" or "-" modifiers.
>- Tid download buttons were making bad files that couldn't be 
>imported, they are now fixed.
>
> There will still be some cosmetic changes, such as a restyle to make a 
> much more thin control banner, and I'll be posting a version 0.2.0 as a 
> release candidate and asking for code review soon.
>
> I've been thinking about names, and right now I think I'm going to call 
> the plugin "Dropboard". It's still a very utilitarian name, but I think 
> that's ok because it will most often be seen next to "TiddlyWiki" and it 
> won't compete for attention, while still being fairly descriptive about 
> what it does.
>
> Thanks everybody!
>
> - Reid
>
> On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 1:26:01 PM UTC-5, Reid Gould wrote:
>>
>>
>> To anyone still following,
>>
>> A new version is online at the same link 
>> <https://reidgould.github.io/tiddlywiki-blc-plugin/> above! 
>> I've worked out a number of critical bugs, you should no longer see cards 
>> landing in places different from where they were dropped. All the features 
>> visible in the control banner are fully functional, plus a few more 
>> including:
>>
>>- Collapsible lists! The button on the right hand side of the list 
>>t

Re: [tw] Re: Presenting: BLC Plugin! For kanban like organization in the style of Trello using boards, lists, and cards.

[Reid Gould]

Hi Alex,

I took a quick look at how TiddlyMap uses names. It does add an extra ID 
field of its own. It would be useful if there were a standardized way to do 
that in TW. 

I think that BLC should be compatible with TiddlyMap. When BLC generates a 
shortid for the title of a new tiddler, it is supported and encouraged for 
the user to change it to a more meaningful title of their own. BLC's 
"shorttext" field is completely optional, but it is useful if you find 
yourself typing long titles or wanting to repeat the same title (such as 
having a "ToDo" list in more than one place).

The way TW provides a common ground for different kinds of plugins to 
interact is my absolute favorite thing about it! 
If you're interested, I also have a very rough proof of concept showing how 
a Workflowy or Checkvist style interface could be made in TW in a fashion 
that would be compatable with BLC:
https://reidgould.github.io/tiddlywiki-nn-plugin/

- Reid


On Sunday, October 1, 2017 at 2:08:29 PM UTC-5, AlexHough wrote:
>
> Hi Reid,
>
> Just wondering about the naming of the cards and compatability with other 
> TW applications. 
>
> I was thinking about http://tiddlymap.org/ ...
>
> using the same naming convention could allow additional layers of 
> complexity to be added / explored and open up new manual ways of 
> simplifying and visualising
>
>
>
> best wishes
>
> Alex
>
> On 17 September 2017 at 20:21, Thomas Elmiger  > wrote:
>
>> Hi Reid,
>>
>> Dropboard sounds good and as you know, one can spend too much time 
>> searching for product names ;–)
>>
>> To give you more to think about: How do you like
>> – BoLiCa
>> – CaLi Board
>> – LiCa Board
>> – BoLi Card
>> – Dragboard
>> – 3board
>> – triboard
>> – BoardNCards
>> – Boardingcards
>> – PassBoard
>> – CardBoard
>> – KaBoard (like Kanban)
>> ?
>>
>> Maybe you already had them all …
>>
>> BoLiCa for me sounds like anabolica – TW on steroids ;–)
>> My favorite might be Dragboard, you know what it does, and it conveys 
>> speed like a dragster.
>>
>> Happy naming!
>> Thomas
>>
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[tw] Re: Another shot at kanban

[Reid Gould]

Hi Riz,

Very interesting adaptation of the sitepoint article 
! It 
does feel rather good to see the full Trello interface working inside 
TiddlyWiki. 

The technique of removing the $:/tags/PageTemplate tag from the default 
layout elements is an idea that never occurred to me. It is certainly a 
good way to look past other distractions that I may have open in my story 
and focus on the big picture. My first thought is that perhaps this could 
be a feature on its own, a way to "maximize" any single tiddler, rather 
than creating an entirely isolated interface. If the Trello UI were 
contained in a tiddler this way, it would also be compatible with the built 
in "Open In New Window" feature.

I see there is some discussion in this thread about how to enable the 
ability to drop at the end of lists, and inside empty lists. To enable both 
of these in my plugin, BLC 
, I followed the 
example of the built in list-tagged-draggable 

 macro. 
You'll see it uses an extra $droppable widget outside of the $list with two 
elements inside, one which is invisible but always present to provide area 
to drop onto, and a second which only shows up when it's parent dynamically 
receives the "tc-dragover" class while an active drag is hovering. It will 
be interesting to see what solution you choose.

I looked at how you are storing the list order. I'm happy to see that you 
chose to store it in the list field of the "list" tiddler while allowing 
tags to determine visibility. But also, I've noticed some bugs:
When I open a tiddler that is a list, then open the info panel, and choose 
the "list" tab, there are some entries that have titles of nonexistent or 
deleted tiddlers, I dragged the same card into each list once, and indeed, 
the card is now showing in each list's "list" field. 
If I create multiple tiddlers in the normal TW view, tag them with a list, 
then go into Tekan view, cards I drag onto the new cards only go down to 
the bottom of the ones that were already there.  
If I have a draft of a list open in the main view, it will show up as a 
separate list in Tekan. Drafts of cards also show up as separate cards. 
If I give a tiddler any tags in normal view, then drag it in Tekan, it 
removes all the tags I gave it and only the tag of the list remains.
My last item is not a "bug" but a concern about performance and stability. 
The cards store all their text in the "title" field of the tiddler. The 
title field is also how tiddlers are stored in lists. When typing long 
sentences in many cards, this means list operations must handle very many 
characters. My solution to this was to allow text content in the title 
(preferred to be two or three words, or even better a unique ID), but also 
provide a new field ("shorttext") in which users can type long sentences or 
paragraphs without having to worry about performance problems.
These are things I've also run into and are all solved in BLC 
. Its open source of 
course, so feel free to see if any solutions there suit Tekan.

I think that imitating the appearance of Trello closely is a fantastic way 
to give users a familiar and comfortable interface. I'm also impressed with 
your edit modal. I attempted something like that in an early version of BLC 
but was not able to get it working to my satisfaction. 

Since we are both interested in providing this function to TiddlyWiki, I 
imagine a collaboration between us would go far. A stable and complete 
"version 1" of *DropBoard* (at that point, formerly BLC 
!) should be ready 
within two weeks time. If you're interested in talking about how we could 
bring the best of these two things together, feel free to send me a private 
email, or we can start a new public discussion for that on its own.

- Reid

On Tuesday, September 19, 2017 at 8:54:40 PM UTC-5, Riz wrote:
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> Hi there.
>
> I was amused by the attempt made at Kanban TW. However, I did not need 
> that many features. So I went ahead a tried to do something on an empty 
> wiki. Add to that Telmiger's point that since we are mimicking the 
> functionality of Trello, might as well look like it too. One thing led to 
> another and here is Tekan. 
>
> Demo and Download: https://ibnishak.github.io/twstuff/projects/tekan/
>
> I have given an outline on usage on the demo page. 
>
> Let me know what you think.
>
> live long and prosper,
> Riz 
>
>   
>

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[tw] Re: Presenting: BLC Plugin! For kanban like organization in the style of Trello using boards, lists, and cards.

[Reid Gould]

Hi Tony,

To respond to your question I missed from last week, nope I'm not in 
Sydney. I live in Texas in the US, I just find myself motivated at odd 
hours sometimes. :)  

It will be perfectly safe to upgrade to version 1, you might just end up 
with some abandoned tiddlers that store some of the temporary state. I'll 
post some basic instruction to help you find them and remove them manually.

I see now that the "shorttext" field is displaying differently in the card 
view than it is in the main tiddler view. Thanks for pointing that out, I 
hadn't realized that it was happening. I'm not 100% sure what the best 
thing is to do here, so let me ramble through some thoughts and let me know 
what you think about it.

My original intent with "shorttext" is for it to only contain plain text 
content. I may be using it for a variety of other purposes in the future, 
like to show up in my own versions of the list-links macro the way the 
"caption" field already does, as well as other possible projects for 
example take a look at this proof of concept for a Workflowy / Checkvist 
style interface <https://reidgould.github.io/tiddlywiki-nn-plugin/> that I 
experimented with when I started working on blc. It would be nice for it to 
have basic styling like bold and italics, but it wouldn't make sense for 
things like images or header styled text to show up there. 

Another issue is that you really shouldn't use multiple lines in 
"shorttext". The main "text" is stored differently than all the other 
fields in a tiddler. In html, the "text" field is the content in a div tag, 
and the other fields are saved as attributes on that tag. It *works* to 
save newlines in html attributes but it is a pretty weird thing to do. Also 
in the ".tid" export format the fields are stored at the beginning of the 
file, and the "text" content doesn't have any syntax to signal that it 
starts, when the fields end there's one line of space and absolutely 
anything that comes after that is considered the "text". If the "shorttext" 
field ends up being the last field that gets saved in that list, and it has 
a line of space, the rest of the field will get mistaken for part of the 
"text" body when it gets imported. 
So all of that is just to say that keeping the "shorttext" field as plain 
text only will discourage users from typing multiple paragraphs thinking it 
works the same way as "text". I could prevent users from typing newlines by 
changing the text edit field to the same single-line type that shows up at 
the bottom of the editor where the other fields are, but I don't think it's 
very usable.

So those are the issues! Let me know your ideas.

- Reid

On Saturday, September 16, 2017 at 7:47:37 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>
> Reid,
>
> Is the short text field still displaying inside other tiddlers outside the 
> board or board items? I would certainly prefer that as I keep entering 
> commands in short text and they don't work.
>
> thanks
> Tony
>
> On Sunday, September 17, 2017 at 7:05:10 AM UTC+10, Reid Gould wrote:
>>
>> To all,
>>
>> The third and final "feature preview" release is available! Version 0.1.3 
>> contains all the features I'm planning on including in the version 1 
>> release. This version should contain no bugs or unexpected behaviors. STILL 
>> WAIT to use it in a permanent installation, I'm tidying up internal naming 
>> and how I'm saving some of the temporary state associated with boards and I 
>> won't be providing an upgrade path from version 0 to version 1.
>>
>> New features and significant changes include:
>>
>>- The "Search Filter" list. when a filter is typed into this control, 
>>a special list appears on the side which contains results from tiddlers 
>> in 
>>the wiki that are outside the board. This is very handy way to import 
>>tiddlers onto the board, or maybe even to pop up a temporary board just 
>> to 
>>quickly sort a bunch of tiddlers into tags, then delete the board if you 
>>don't need it.
>>- "New Card" now generates titles using the shortid plugin, which 
>>makes a string of letters and numbers that is URL friendly and 
>>cryptographically guaranteed to be unique. The old way just used a 
>>timestamp, which is not good for sharing with others and redundant with 
>> the 
>>"created" field.
>>- Improved "boardHeight" and "listWidth" controls, including the 
>>ability to snap to a number of lists visible that will change with the 
>> size 
>>of your window, and the ability to set the height to 100% to fit 
>> perfectly 
>

[tw] Re: Presenting: BLC Plugin! For kanban like organization in the style of Trello using boards, lists, and cards.

[Reid Gould]

To all,

The third and final "feature preview" release is available! Version 0.1.3 
contains all the features I'm planning on including in the version 1 
release. This version should contain no bugs or unexpected behaviors. STILL 
WAIT to use it in a permanent installation, I'm tidying up internal naming 
and how I'm saving some of the temporary state associated with boards and I 
won't be providing an upgrade path from version 0 to version 1.

New features and significant changes include:

   - The "Search Filter" list. when a filter is typed into this control, a 
   special list appears on the side which contains results from tiddlers in 
   the wiki that are outside the board. This is very handy way to import 
   tiddlers onto the board, or maybe even to pop up a temporary board just to 
   quickly sort a bunch of tiddlers into tags, then delete the board if you 
   don't need it.
   - "New Card" now generates titles using the shortid plugin, which makes 
   a string of letters and numbers that is URL friendly and cryptographically 
   guaranteed to be unique. The old way just used a timestamp, which is not 
   good for sharing with others and redundant with the "created" field.
   - Improved "boardHeight" and "listWidth" controls, including the ability 
   to snap to a number of lists visible that will change with the size of your 
   window, and the ability to set the height to 100% to fit perfectly when 
   using "Open in a New Window". 
   - Board title shows up in the separated windows.
   - More powerful user filter for cards on the board. The user filter is 
   now appended to the end of the filter that generates the content of each 
   list, so you can type any number of runs which should always start with the 
   "+" or "-" modifiers.
   - Tid download buttons were making bad files that couldn't be imported, 
   they are now fixed.

There will still be some cosmetic changes, such as a restyle to make a much 
more thin control banner, and I'll be posting a version 0.2.0 as a release 
candidate and asking for code review soon.

I've been thinking about names, and right now I think I'm going to call the 
plugin "Dropboard". It's still a very utilitarian name, but I think that's 
ok because it will most often be seen next to "TiddlyWiki" and it won't 
compete for attention, while still being fairly descriptive about what it 
does.

Thanks everybody!

- Reid

On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 1:26:01 PM UTC-5, Reid Gould wrote:
>
>
> To anyone still following,
>
> A new version is online at the same link 
> <https://reidgould.github.io/tiddlywiki-blc-plugin/> above! 
> I've worked out a number of critical bugs, you should no longer see cards 
> landing in places different from where they were dropped. All the features 
> visible in the control banner are fully functional, plus a few more 
> including:
>
>- Collapsible lists! The button on the right hand side of the list 
>title will collapse your list to a thin view so that the cards do not 
>display, but you can still drag cards into that list. One use might be for 
>a "Done" list that over time could get very long. Collapsing the list will 
>reduce lag in the interface and keep distractions away.
>- A filter field for the user to type any TW filter that hides any 
>card that matches, so you can focus in on only what you want to see.
>- Ability to hide the normal "text" field on cards, so that you can 
>use BLC even when content is large. You can use the BLC "shorttext" field 
>for a summary paragraph containing only plain text, or only see the title 
>of the card. Cards with hidden text fields show an attachment icon at the 
>bottom right.
>- Ability to hide display of image tiddlers.
>- Options for the total board height and list width, including an 
>option to limit list width to a maximum value.
>- Ability to drag tiddlers between card and list positions. Try making 
>several lists with some cards inside, then drag them all into a "list of 
>lists" to stow them out of the way as cards, but keep them easily 
>accessible to move back into list position.
>
> Remember, BLC is still in beta. Don't use it in a permanent installation 
> YET. I will soon be requesting code review over in the dev group, and will 
> let everyone know when it hits version 1.
>
> Thanks to everyone for responding with your encouragement and suggestions, 
> keep it coming and let me know about any bugs or issues you find when 
> testing.
>
> One last thing! I think the name "BLC" is a little boring. Do you all have 
> any better ideas of what we could call this thing? Please share!
>
> - Reid
>
>
>

[tw] Re: Presenting: BLC Plugin! For kanban like organization in the style of Trello using boards, lists, and cards.

[Reid Gould]

Tony,

Since every list or card is really just a plain old tiddler, all the same 
methods of creation work for lists. This includes dragging the "New Card" 
onto the list areas! It will open the tiddler in the main story so you can 
title it, but you will see when you return to the board that it is in the 
position where you placed the "New Card". Personally, I don't like being 
scrolled away from my board, so my personal favorite method is just to make 
a new card at the top of my first list so it is convenient to title, then 
drag it into the desired position among the lists. Of course any other 
existing tiddler with any sort of text content that it may already contain 
can also be dragged from the main story to act as a list, you just won't 
see the body of the text displayed so its up to you what makes sense to use 
that way or not to.

- Reid

On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 9:55:25 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>
> Reid,
>
> Thanks, Got it now, I love that feature. 
>
> I can batch questions/suggestions for later but here is a few,
>
>
>1. I know see how the the double left and right icons work, by 
>dropping things on them, perhaps another icon would help indicate this 
> more.
>2. What is the main way to create a new list on an existing board? 
>alternative ways?
>
> Keep up the great work
>
>
> Tony
>
> On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 12:27:05 PM UTC+10, Reid Gould wrote:
>>
>> Tony,
>>
>> The workflow I have in mind is that if one has several lists, several can 
>> be dragged to become cards inside of one list:
>>
>>
>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-02YBprY29vE/WbXzC_SaFnI/Do4/J9Txz43U83wbAidSHfgboScSGcw6-XlAQCLcBGAs/s1600/blc%2Bbetween%2Bexample%2B1%2Bmarked.PNG>
>>
>>
>> After this example the board would appear as seen in the following image. 
>> Then the same tiddlers that were lists, now seen as cards, can be dragged 
>> to the drop areas to either side of the list titles to place them back into 
>> a list position:
>>
>>
>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-z11GaxBkH7Q/WbXzgKv-lCI/Do8/XO7h2-VPUUUW2U3F1dflEeO4dEaBDjEgACLcBGAs/s1600/blc%2Bbetween%2Bexample%2B2%2Bmarked.PNG>
>>
>>
>> After moving the one indicated in the example, the board would appear as 
>> seen here:
>>
>>
>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-m5-Lk4z2AA4/WbX0AM7ALcI/DpA/1VCFIOq_1vAAjMq0tLgbQwngQZTWSifLgCLcBGAs/s1600/blc%2Bbetween%2Bexample%2B3.PNG>
>>
>>
>> I am planning on turning the User Guide into a useful tour of various 
>> ways like this to use the plugin. Packing in features can mean there is 
>> enough to discover that a little documentation and training is necessary. 
>> Let me know your thoughts! 
>>
>>
>> - Reid
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 9:07:50 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Reid,
>>>
>>> Please tell me how to remove a list from a list of Lists? Where is the 
>>> list position? so I can "move back into list position".
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 4:26:01 AM UTC+10, Reid Gould wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To anyone still following,
>>>>
>>>> A new version is online at the same link 
>>>> <https://reidgould.github.io/tiddlywiki-blc-plugin/> above! 
>>>> I've worked out a number of critical bugs, you should no longer see 
>>>> cards landing in places different from where they were dropped. All the 
>>>> features visible in the control banner are fully functional, plus a few 
>>>> more including:
>>>>
>>>>- Collapsible lists! The button on the right hand side of the list 
>>>>title will collapse your list to a thin view so that the cards do not 
>>>>display, but you can still drag cards into that list. One use might be 
>>>> for 
>>>>a "Done" list that over time could get very long. Collapsing the list 
>>>> will 
>>>>reduce lag in the interface and keep distractions away.
>>>>- A filter field for the user to type any TW filter that hides any 
>>>>card that matches, so you can focus in on only what you want to see.
>>>>- Ability to hide the normal "text" field on cards, so that you can 
>>>>use BLC even when content is large. You can use the BLC "shorttext" 
>>>> field 
>>>>for a summary paragraph containing only plain text, or only see the 
>>&g

[tw] Re: Presenting: BLC Plugin! For kanban like organization in the style of Trello using boards, lists, and cards.

[Reid Gould]

Josiah,

It is interesting to see the ways that this kind of layout is used in 
different services, it certainly seems to be a perfect match for twitter 
feeds! BLC works using normal old TiddlyWiki "tags" and "list" fields, so 
if someone were to make a tool to retrieve and save tweets as tiddlers and 
tag and populate a separate tiddler's list field, BLC would be perfectly 
capable of displaying it. Sounds like a great opportunity for integration 
with this plugin and could still be compatible with any others using these 
standard fields. Let me know if you see anyone working toward it, I'd love 
to see what other good ways there are to mix and match and I'll endeavor to 
make BLC flexible to play along with other tools in that way.

- Reid

On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 8:20:27 AM UTC-5, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao Reid
>
> I have been looking and playing with this more closely. Its great. My 
> interest in it is a possible way in TiddlyWiki to give a Tweetdeck 
> <https://tweetdeck.twitter.com/> type experience ...
>
>
>
> A great thing with your drag-n-drop is that it would add beyond what 
> Tweetdeck does. I could be a stunning tool for compulsive Tweeters like me. 
> The organisation of AUTHORING on Twitter is generally "Tweet today, gone 
> tomorrow" but with visual organisation your gizmo gives it could materially 
> be a big plus to be able to better find and organise Tweets. A lot people 
> on Twitter are not interacting so much as authoring. Certainly my main 
> posts I already make from TiddlyWiki now most of the time. Your gizmo could 
> likely give Tweeters what they currently lack--flexible organisation.
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
> Reid Gould wrote:
>>
>> BLC Plugin sees it's first light of day!
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Presenting: BLC Plugin! For kanban like organization in the style of Trello using boards, lists, and cards.

[Reid Gould]

Thomas,

Thanks for sharing those links. 
I am in fact using CSS Flexbox to achieve several parts of the layout right 
now. The article also mentions CSS Grid, but that property is still very 
early in it's adoption curve among browsers. For anyone who may have not 
updated since the beginning of the year, its likely to not work for them.

It was very interesting to learn about Trello's search for a name, and how 
they eventually came back around to something so similar to their dev code 
name. So much effort can be spend on something so simple!

BLC stands for "Board, List, Card". While not inventive, I tend to favor 
direct descriptive names. Perhaps its best just to leave it.

- Reid

On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 4:57:09 PM UTC-5, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> What does BLC stand for? 
>
> Here’s a good read on finding product names: 
> http://blog.fogcreek.com/the-agonies-of-picking-a-product-name/ 
>
> Have fun! 
> Thomas 

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[tw] Re: Presenting: BLC Plugin! For kanban like organization in the style of Trello using boards, lists, and cards.

[Reid Gould]

Tony,

The workflow I have in mind is that if one has several lists, several can 
be dragged to become cards inside of one list:

<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-02YBprY29vE/WbXzC_SaFnI/Do4/J9Txz43U83wbAidSHfgboScSGcw6-XlAQCLcBGAs/s1600/blc%2Bbetween%2Bexample%2B1%2Bmarked.PNG>


After this example the board would appear as seen in the following image. 
Then the same tiddlers that were lists, now seen as cards, can be dragged 
to the drop areas to either side of the list titles to place them back into 
a list position:

<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-z11GaxBkH7Q/WbXzgKv-lCI/Do8/XO7h2-VPUUUW2U3F1dflEeO4dEaBDjEgACLcBGAs/s1600/blc%2Bbetween%2Bexample%2B2%2Bmarked.PNG>


After moving the one indicated in the example, the board would appear as 
seen here:

<https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-m5-Lk4z2AA4/WbX0AM7ALcI/DpA/1VCFIOq_1vAAjMq0tLgbQwngQZTWSifLgCLcBGAs/s1600/blc%2Bbetween%2Bexample%2B3.PNG>


I am planning on turning the User Guide into a useful tour of various ways 
like this to use the plugin. Packing in features can mean there is enough 
to discover that a little documentation and training is necessary. Let me 
know your thoughts! 


- Reid


On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 9:07:50 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>
> Reid,
>
> Please tell me how to remove a list from a list of Lists? Where is the 
> list position? so I can "move back into list position".
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Monday, September 11, 2017 at 4:26:01 AM UTC+10, Reid Gould wrote:
>>
>>
>> To anyone still following,
>>
>> A new version is online at the same link 
>> <https://reidgould.github.io/tiddlywiki-blc-plugin/> above! 
>> I've worked out a number of critical bugs, you should no longer see cards 
>> landing in places different from where they were dropped. All the features 
>> visible in the control banner are fully functional, plus a few more 
>> including:
>>
>>- Collapsible lists! The button on the right hand side of the list 
>>title will collapse your list to a thin view so that the cards do not 
>>display, but you can still drag cards into that list. One use might be 
>> for 
>>a "Done" list that over time could get very long. Collapsing the list 
>> will 
>>reduce lag in the interface and keep distractions away.
>>- A filter field for the user to type any TW filter that hides any 
>>card that matches, so you can focus in on only what you want to see.
>>- Ability to hide the normal "text" field on cards, so that you can 
>>use BLC even when content is large. You can use the BLC "shorttext" field 
>>for a summary paragraph containing only plain text, or only see the title 
>>of the card. Cards with hidden text fields show an attachment icon at the 
>>bottom right.
>>- Ability to hide display of image tiddlers.
>>- Options for the total board height and list width, including an 
>>option to limit list width to a maximum value.
>>- Ability to drag tiddlers between card and list positions. Try 
>>making several lists with some cards inside, then drag them all into a 
>>"list of lists" to stow them out of the way as cards, but keep them 
>> easily 
>>accessible to move back into list position.
>>
>> Remember, BLC is still in beta. Don't use it in a permanent installation 
>> YET. I will soon be requesting code review over in the dev group, and will 
>> let everyone know when it hits version 1.
>>
>> Thanks to everyone for responding with your encouragement and 
>> suggestions, keep it coming and let me know about any bugs or issues you 
>> find when testing.
>>
>> One last thing! I think the name "BLC" is a little boring. Do you all 
>> have any better ideas of what we could call this thing? Please share!
>>
>> - Reid
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 10:07:47 AM UTC-5, Reid Gould wrote:
>>>
>>> BLC Plugin sees it's first light of day!
>>>
>>> The wiki: User Guide and Demo  
>>> <https://reidgould.github.io/tiddlywiki-blc-plugin/>
>>> Source on GitHub:  https://github.com/reidgould/tiddlywiki-blc-plugin
>>>
>>> Trello style cards and lists are very important to my methods, but I 
>>> can't stand not owning my own data. So when I discovered how fantastically 
>>> hackable TiddlyWiki is, I made this! It uses normal TW tags and list fields 
>>> and if you already have those relationships established, you just need to 
>>> transclude the template into your text and it will show you your existing 
>>> ti

[tw] Re: Presenting: BLC Plugin! For kanban like organization in the style of Trello using boards, lists, and cards.

[Reid Gould]

To anyone still following,

A new version is online at the same link 
<https://reidgould.github.io/tiddlywiki-blc-plugin/> above! 
I've worked out a number of critical bugs, you should no longer see cards 
landing in places different from where they were dropped. All the features 
visible in the control banner are fully functional, plus a few more 
including:

   - Collapsible lists! The button on the right hand side of the list title 
   will collapse your list to a thin view so that the cards do not display, 
   but you can still drag cards into that list. One use might be for a "Done" 
   list that over time could get very long. Collapsing the list will reduce 
   lag in the interface and keep distractions away.
   - A filter field for the user to type any TW filter that hides any card 
   that matches, so you can focus in on only what you want to see.
   - Ability to hide the normal "text" field on cards, so that you can use 
   BLC even when content is large. You can use the BLC "shorttext" field for a 
   summary paragraph containing only plain text, or only see the title of the 
   card. Cards with hidden text fields show an attachment icon at the bottom 
   right.
   - Ability to hide display of image tiddlers.
   - Options for the total board height and list width, including an option 
   to limit list width to a maximum value.
   - Ability to drag tiddlers between card and list positions. Try making 
   several lists with some cards inside, then drag them all into a "list of 
   lists" to stow them out of the way as cards, but keep them easily 
   accessible to move back into list position.

Remember, BLC is still in beta. Don't use it in a permanent installation 
YET. I will soon be requesting code review over in the dev group, and will 
let everyone know when it hits version 1.

Thanks to everyone for responding with your encouragement and suggestions, 
keep it coming and let me know about any bugs or issues you find when 
testing.

One last thing! I think the name "BLC" is a little boring. Do you all have 
any better ideas of what we could call this thing? Please share!

- Reid


On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 10:07:47 AM UTC-5, Reid Gould wrote:
>
> BLC Plugin sees it's first light of day!
>
> The wiki: User Guide and Demo  
> <https://reidgould.github.io/tiddlywiki-blc-plugin/>
> Source on GitHub:  https://github.com/reidgould/tiddlywiki-blc-plugin
>
> Trello style cards and lists are very important to my methods, but I can't 
> stand not owning my own data. So when I discovered how fantastically 
> hackable TiddlyWiki is, I made this! It uses normal TW tags and list fields 
> and if you already have those relationships established, you just need to 
> transclude the template into your text and it will show you your existing 
> tiddlers in board, list, card style.
>
> WARNING: This is still in quite early development and is very much not 
> stable. I'm partway through a refactor of the macros I'm using for listops 
> and they have some bugs.
>
> Still, it's starting to become something, so I'm sharing it now hoping for 
> some feedback from you more experienced users. I'd welcome issues on the 
> GitHub page, or any sort of suggestions here on the forum.
>
> Thanks to all the people who made this awesome little tool!
>
> - Reid
>
>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Presenting: BLC Plugin! For kanban like organization in the style of Trello using boards, lists, and cards.

[Reid Gould]

Jeremy,

Its great to see the community that has grown around your invention and how 
you have continued to have such high involvement and fostered that into 
what it is now. If only I had discovered it sooner! 

Thank you for your words of encouragement and affirmation that my little 
project aligns with the direction that TiddlyWiki is headed. I'm excited to 
bring this plugin up to a version 1 that can be considered stable, safe, 
and feature-complete for everyone to use! This is the first time I've open 
sourced any of my own work and from what I've seen from the community so 
far, I've chosen the right place to do it!

- Reid


On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 11:35:29 AM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Reid
>
> Congratulations on a terrific piece of work. You’ve answered a frequent 
> user request which is significant enough, but looking through your code it 
> seems like you’ve really got yourself into the TiddlyWiki mindset (eg your 
> desire to avoid JS). No mean accomplishment!
>
> I’m sure it will be very popular; don’t be discouraged by the succession 
> of bugs and feature requests that will surely follow, such things are of 
> course a sign of success.
>
> My only bit of personal feedback is the suggestion to perhaps make the CSS 
> generally resemble the look of Trello (white cards on a darker background), 
> just to make it easier for people to grok what they are seeing.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
>
> On 4 Sep 2017, at 14:25, Mathurin Prost <mathuri...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
>
> Awesome & very usefull work!
>
> Le samedi 2 septembre 2017 17:07:47 UTC+2, Reid Gould a écrit :
>>
>> BLC Plugin sees it's first light of day!
>>
>> The wiki: User Guide and Demo  
>> <https://reidgould.github.io/tiddlywiki-blc-plugin/>
>> Source on GitHub:  https://github.com/reidgould/tiddlywiki-blc-plugin
>>
>> Trello style cards and lists are very important to my methods, but I 
>> can't stand not owning my own data. So when I discovered how fantastically 
>> hackable TiddlyWiki is, I made this! It uses normal TW tags and list fields 
>> and if you already have those relationships established, you just need to 
>> transclude the template into your text and it will show you your existing 
>> tiddlers in board, list, card style.
>>
>> WARNING: This is still in quite early development and is very much not 
>> stable. I'm partway through a refactor of the macros I'm using for listops 
>> and they have some bugs.
>>
>> Still, it's starting to become something, so I'm sharing it now hoping 
>> for some feedback from you more experienced users. I'd welcome issues on 
>> the GitHub page, or any sort of suggestions here on the forum.
>>
>> Thanks to all the people who made this awesome little tool!
>>
>> - Reid
>>
>>
>>
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[tw] Re: how's tiddlyclip?

[Reid Gould]

+1 for a maintained and modern web clipping tool. I haven't gotten a chance 
to properly check out the state of TiddlyClip, but I desperately need 
something to fill this gap if TiddlyWiki is going to fill the place in my 
personal workflow that I want it to. I'd be willing to help out some on the 
dev side of things if someone is taking responsibility for the project.

- Reid


On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 5:49:45 PM UTC-5, RichardWilliamSmith wrote:
>
> I saw @buggyj was active recently and thought I'd be cheeky and take the 
> opportunity to ask how his work on bringing Tiddlyclip up to date for 
> Firefox 57 was going?
>
> I was looking at some of the docs for the transition to webextensions and 
> it seems like it might be a tricky project but then I remembered that you 
> got it working in Chrome before - is that version still available? How are 
> things looking with Firefox?
>
> Tiddlyclip is a really important part of the ecosystem and, personally, I 
> will miss it much more that Tiddlyfox if they both go away.
>

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[tw] Re: Presenting: BLC Plugin! For kanban like organization in the style of Trello using boards, lists, and cards.

[Reid Gould]

Tony,

Wow! Using the "Open In New Window" feature like that is great! I would 
never have thought to try that. I feel compelled to make a plugin for plain 
mini-story views so I can put two or three normal stories next to each 
other in their own windows.

Your comment about "place a list anywhere" sounds similar to what Jan 
suggested above with the sidebar. Can you describe more what you're 
thinking about with that?

On the topic of importing tiddlers directly onto the board, that would be 
really nice to have but as I'm thinking about how it could be implemented 
I'm not sure how it could be done, perhaps you could point me in a 
direction. One of my goals in this project is to complete the core feature 
set with no original javascript, instead relying on TiddlyWiki's WikiText, 
Widgets, and Macros. I think this will make the plugin much more future 
proof and let it benefit from future development in the TW core. The BLC 
lists are currently implemented with the same $navigator and $list widgets 
that make the main story. The docs say navigator does handle import 
messages, but I don't know how to let the external link escape from the 
$droppable widgets that enclose the cards such that they could fall back to 
$dropzone widgets that could be put inside the list's story. I'm already 
interested in learning how to handle drag and drop data into the browser 
for another small idea of mine, but to accomplish both of these things I'm 
not sure if that would require me to override the dropzone.js widget 
<https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/f59809e9a4bbb8d29aa5fc3b8a3850cd7bfd08c3/core/modules/widgets/dropzone.js>,
 
or if it's handleDropEvent function can pick up custom import logic. Any 
guidance would be appreciated.

The feature to selective hide and display columns with a single checkbox is 
already in the works, thanks for the suggestion to leave an area to drop 
cards into hidden lists, that will definitely be included.

- Reid


On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 2:25:39 AM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>
> Post Script,
>
> I opened you demo using More >  Open In New Window and it works well as a 
> way to separate the board from the tiddlyWiki "chrome" and Get a full 
> screen board. Open in Main Story then updates the calling browser window 
> (normal behavior) but very useful way to use your tool. In this open in new 
> window mode it would be nice to see the boards title somewhere.
>
> Dreaming of the future, it would be nice if "new Card" option was 
> available on each list with the ability to specify a template (tiddler) (or 
> a number) for that list, it would help lists manage "tiddler types". And 
> your Kanban board can be a way to quickly add tiddler content that even 
> complies with another plugin such as a Project or Task tiddler.
>
> Perhaps a nice feature would be to display the icon of the tiddler for 
> list items as well, ie; if a tiddler has a value in its field named Icon, 
> arguably with a large icon option as this would make it easy to see 
> different list items.
>
> It can be useful for each column to be named something to support workflow 
> such as Incoming, WIP, Urgent, Done however one of my bug bears with Trello 
> is the space a column like Done consumes when you only occasionally need to 
> look at its details. One idea would be to allow a column on a board to be 
> folded /hidden into a "button", and Removed from the columns displayed, 
> however you can still drag a list item to that button. 
>
> Anyway, I will stop with my flight of fancy and look forward to seeing 
> what you achieve.
>
> The mind Boggles,
>
> Tony
>
>
> On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 5:02:04 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Reid,
>>
>> It is an impressive start. I use and abuse trello a great deal and I too 
>> would like to own my own data. Not to mention the advantages of integration 
>> with TiddlyWiki, good work.
>>
>> You are moving down a powerful direction and I hope at some time we may 
>> be able to place a list anywhere and drag and drop from it, for example 
>> within tabs of a master tiddler.
>>
>> No doubt you can foresee the desire to expand the vertical size of the 
>> board.
>>
>> I could not help myself and dragged a complex tiddler to the board from 
>> another tiddlywiki and it created a new item with no content but using the 
>> title, even this could be useful, If I drag and import an external tiddler, 
>> then drag the title (after import) to the board it does include the desired 
>> content, Please consider allowing external tiddlers to be dropped on the 
>> list (in distant future perhaps).
>>
>> Great work and Good Start to your move from amateur to professiona

Re: [tw] Presenting: BLC Plugin! For kanban like organization in the style of Trello using boards, lists, and cards.

[Reid Gould]

Jan,

Thanks for your suggestions, you will be happy to know I already have a 
solution in the works for keeping the cards short. It will be better 
explained in the User Guide wiki on the next release.
I also agree that the header layout needs work. Expect to see changes there.

The sidebar idea sounds interesting. Can you describe some more how you 
imagine it might work?

- Reid

On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 7:46:27 PM UTC-5, Jan wrote:
>
> Hi Reid,
> this looks very promising, great idea.
> A few ideas:
> -I got the feeling this could be a great sidebar-feature.
> -It would be great if the cards could be flipped to show only the title.
> -The header (New Card, Remove, Hold...Filters) is a little distracting. It 
> could be useful to display it on hover only...
>
> Please continue, I would really like to use this...
> Yours Jan
>
>
>
> Am 02.09.2017 um 17:07 schrieb Reid Gould:
>
> BLC Plugin sees it's first light of day!
>
> The wiki: User Guide and Demo  
> <https://reidgould.github.io/tiddlywiki-blc-plugin/>
> Source on GitHub:  https://github.com/reidgould/tiddlywiki-blc-plugin
>
> Trello style cards and lists are very important to my methods, but I can't 
> stand not owning my own data. So when I discovered how fantastically 
> hackable TiddlyWiki is, I made this! It uses normal TW tags and list fields 
> and if you already have those relationships established, you just need to 
> transclude the template into your text and it will show you your existing 
> tiddlers in board, list, card style.
>
> WARNING: This is still in quite early development and is very much not 
> stable. I'm partway through a refactor of the macros I'm using for listops 
> and they have some bugs.
>
> Still, it's starting to become something, so I'm sharing it now hoping for 
> some feedback from you more experienced users. I'd welcome issues on the 
> GitHub page, or any sort of suggestions here on the forum.
>
> Thanks to all the people who made this awesome little tool!
>
> - Reid
>
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[tw] Re: Presenting: BLC Plugin! For kanban like organization in the style of Trello using boards, lists, and cards.

[Reid Gould]

Hi Mark,

You are correct. Among the control ribbon, the drop zones are working (New 
Card, Hold Card, Open in Main, Remove from Board), but the other features 
are not yet implemented. They are mostly there to show intent as I plan on 
getting them working over the next week or so.
I'm actively looking for ways to make this more useful for others, so let 
me know which parts you find useful or not.

Thanks for your complement, I'm an amateur developer so words like that 
mean a lot to me!

- Reid


On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 11:32:18 AM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>
> That's astounding! 
>
> As far as I could tell Single line cards, Skinny lists, Hide archive 
> lists, List Width, and Board Width don't do anything. Is that normal? Or 
> are they future items?
>
> Really impressive work!
>
> Mark
>
> On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 8:07:47 AM UTC-7, Reid Gould wrote:
>>
>> BLC Plugin sees it's first light of day!
>>
>> The wiki: User Guide and Demo  
>> <https://reidgould.github.io/tiddlywiki-blc-plugin/>
>> Source on GitHub:  https://github.com/reidgould/tiddlywiki-blc-plugin
>>
>> Trello style cards and lists are very important to my methods, but I 
>> can't stand not owning my own data. So when I discovered how fantastically 
>> hackable TiddlyWiki is, I made this! It uses normal TW tags and list fields 
>> and if you already have those relationships established, you just need to 
>> transclude the template into your text and it will show you your existing 
>> tiddlers in board, list, card style.
>>
>> WARNING: This is still in quite early development and is very much not 
>> stable. I'm partway through a refactor of the macros I'm using for listops 
>> and they have some bugs.
>>
>> Still, it's starting to become something, so I'm sharing it now hoping 
>> for some feedback from you more experienced users. I'd welcome issues on 
>> the GitHub page, or any sort of suggestions here on the forum.
>>
>> Thanks to all the people who made this awesome little tool!
>>
>> - Reid
>>
>>
>>

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[tw] Presenting: BLC Plugin! For kanban like organization in the style of Trello using boards, lists, and cards.

[Reid Gould]

BLC Plugin sees it's first light of day!

The wiki: User Guide and Demo  

Source on GitHub:  https://github.com/reidgould/tiddlywiki-blc-plugin

Trello style cards and lists are very important to my methods, but I can't 
stand not owning my own data. So when I discovered how fantastically 
hackable TiddlyWiki is, I made this! It uses normal TW tags and list fields 
and if you already have those relationships established, you just need to 
transclude the template into your text and it will show you your existing 
tiddlers in board, list, card style.

WARNING: This is still in quite early development and is very much not 
stable. I'm partway through a refactor of the macros I'm using for listops 
and they have some bugs.

Still, it's starting to become something, so I'm sharing it now hoping for 
some feedback from you more experienced users. I'd welcome issues on the 
GitHub page, or any sort of suggestions here on the forum.

Thanks to all the people who made this awesome little tool!

- Reid


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