[tw5] Re: Inspirational thoughts about using tags
Bimlas, On my large personal tiddlywiki my main organisational method is defining tiddler-types such as object, project, task, reference, document, domain (work / personal) person and client. In this way my search always starts with knowledge of both the tiddler type and its context which is "domain, Project, client" and I can always look at it from the perspective of a person. None of these use tags, just fields. So tags are free for for what they are best at, but I use surprisingly few. Regards Tony On Thursday, May 23, 2019 at 4:24:35 PM UTC+10, bimlas wrote: > > When I started using TiddlyWiki, I originally thought the tags were the > perfect solution to find notes easily: just pick the right tags and find > what I was looking for. For example, if I'm looking for a description of > running TiddlyWiki on Node, I select the "TiddlyWiki", "Node", and > "Hosting" tags. Or, for example, if I'm looking for cat's description, I > select the "pet", "mammal", "cute" tags. The system works because our brain > also connects concepts through their similar qualities (I think), but the > problem is the same as in our brain: we get a disordered concept set. > > No matter how much I wanted to avoid, a hierarchy (ToC) is needed because > it makes the system organized. The great thing about working with > TiddlyWiki is that the same note can appear in several different parts of > the hierarchy. For example, a cat may be included in the "pets" and > "mammals" branches. > > But besides the hierarchy (as can be seen from the description), it is > also necessary to have the tags visible. If someone wants to see the > structure (ToC) and the tags at the same time, he might be interesting to > have the Locator plugin: https://bimlas.gitlab.io/tw5-locator/ > > Trying to apply the theories in this article, here is an example usage of > Locator sidebar: https://bimlas.gitlab.io/ > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/0acae6e9-89c1-4a33-9c4b-7f65ec6d2b6a%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw5] Re: Inspirational thoughts about using tags
When I started using TiddlyWiki, I originally thought the tags were the perfect solution to find notes easily: just pick the right tags and find what I was looking for. For example, if I'm looking for a description of running TiddlyWiki on Node, I select the "TiddlyWiki", "Node", and "Hosting" tags. Or, for example, if I'm looking for cat's description, I select the "pet", "mammal", "cute" tags. The system works because our brain also connects concepts through their similar qualities (I think), but the problem is the same as in our brain: we get a disordered concept set. No matter how much I wanted to avoid, a hierarchy (ToC) is needed because it makes the system organized. The great thing about working with TiddlyWiki is that the same note can appear in several different parts of the hierarchy. For example, a cat may be included in the "pets" and "mammals" branches. But besides the hierarchy (as can be seen from the description), it is also necessary to have the tags visible. If someone wants to see the structure (ToC) and the tags at the same time, he might be interesting to have the Locator plugin: https://bimlas.gitlab.io/tw5-locator/ Trying to apply the theories in this article, here is an example usage of Locator sidebar: https://bimlas.gitlab.io/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/cbc5d2e5-a144-4def-9e7d-39413513f547%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw5] Re: Inspirational thoughts about using tags
Hans Useful metaphor "upwardly growing cone or spiral" Tony On Tuesday, May 21, 2019 at 4:49:01 AM UTC+10, HansWobbe wrote: > > I found this quite useful. > > Since I started working with Tags in the early days of Flickr, my usage > has matured dramatically. So far, I have not found any open-source system > as powerful for tagging as TiddlyWiki. Based on my experience to date, I > would try to render the article's ... "building a second brain knowledge > life cycle" > as an upwardly growing cone or spiral since I feel that depicts > observation that "the more you know, the more you can learn". That could > also depict the idea that disseminating the information can take place an > many different vertical levels. > > Thanks for posting it. > > Regards, > Hans > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/5fcf23d5-c03f-4408-b768-a8bf99c106d9%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw5] Re: Inspirational thoughts about using tags
I found this quite useful. Since I started working with Tags in the early days of Flickr, my usage has matured dramatically. So far, I have not found any open-source system as powerful for tagging as TiddlyWiki. Based on my experience to date, I would try to render the article's ... "building a second brain knowledge life cycle" as an upwardly growing cone or spiral since I feel that depicts observation that "the more you know, the more you can learn". That could also depict the idea that disseminating the information can take place an many different vertical levels. Thanks for posting it. Regards, Hans -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/85b27514-fe45-45c0-99c2-9eabf5742b08%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw5] Re: Inspirational thoughts about using tags
Thanks Bilmas, I think part of it can be borrowed to explain why tag is useful in Tiddlywiki.com! Many of us do not use tags effectively in PKM. And to Jeremy: based on this text we can say Tiddlywiki is a PKM tool! one of the best may be. --Mohammad On Monday, May 20, 2019 at 10:58:30 AM UTC+4:30, bimlas wrote: > > Personal Knowledge Management (PKM) is the practice of capturing the >> ideas and insights we encounter in our daily life, whether from personal >> experience, from books and articles, or from our work, and cultivating them >> over time to produce more creative, higher quality work. I teach people how >> to master PKM in my online course Building a Second Brain. >> By collecting our knowledge in a centralized place outside of our own >> heads, we can create an engine of creative output – a “second brain” – to >> advance a career, build a business, or pursue a passion. By making this >> knowledge digital, we can reap the benefits of searchability, backups, >> syncing between devices, sharing with others, and more. >> But there’s one aspect of personal knowledge management I haven’t fully >> addressed, which is tags. In the past, I criticized tags harshly as being >> too taxing, overly complicated, and low value for the effort required. I >> advised people not to use tags to manage their knowledge, favoring >> notebooks or folders instead. >> But I’ve changed my mind since then. Over several years of observations, >> findings, and experiments, I’ve come to believe that tags could be the >> missing link in making our knowledge collections truly adaptable – able to >> reorient and reconfigure themselves on the fly to enable any goal we wish >> to pursue. >> Let me tell you what I believe is required to unlock the immense >> potential of tagging for personal knowledge management. > > > > https://praxis.fortelabs.co/a-complete-guide-to-tagging-for-personal-knowledge-management/ > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/3b50f577-b7ec-44eb-9761-c2ba5225755f%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw5] Re: Inspirational thoughts about using tags
Just found, not my writing. My Google Translate English knowledge is not enough for such a long text. :D -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/9c68e7a3-5cd9-4c17-a8e9-7ab5d6183672%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[tw5] Re: Inspirational thoughts about using tags
Hi, Thx for sharing the link. ... Is this a find, or your text? -m -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/be2e8eab-203d-4bdb-931c-58e0f60e2393%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
