[tw5] Re: stroll drift tiddlyroam streams use cases?

2020-09-04 Thread Donald Coates
This is driving me crazy. There has to be hidden button or something wth. On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 10:34:51 AM UTC-4 David Gifford wrote: > Mark S, > > Hmm, can't edit posts anymore. I was going to add for you to keep in mind > that I am the guy desperate enough to create ways in Stroll

[tw5] Re: stroll drift tiddlyroam streams use cases?

2020-06-25 Thread TW Tones
Folks, The value in this thread is all the different reasons someone prefers one solution or another or the perceived and actual reasons one may choose one over the other. Why? Because this information is what people may ask about any tiddlywiki solution, and would serve us well do document

[tw5] Re: stroll drift tiddlyroam streams use cases?

2020-06-25 Thread TiddlyTweeter
*Noto* is very flexible because it gives infinitely changeable *Building Blocks*. Many types of document can be built with it. I use it a lot and will give other examples in time. Best wishes TT On Thursday, 25 June 2020 21:10:58 UTC+2, Birthe C wrote: > > TT, > > Thank you. It certainly look

[tw5] Re: stroll drift tiddlyroam streams use cases?

2020-06-25 Thread Birthe C
TT, Thank you. It certainly look impressive. You make good use of it for your purpose. Birthe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

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2020-06-25 Thread TiddlyTweeter
On Thursday, 25 June 2020 20:04:09 UTC+2, TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > Done already ... example of 4 Notos in one "document" demo (TWEET BIN) ... > https://tidbits.wiki/noto/notoMAKER.html#TWEET%20BIN. Crusoe is over 500 > entries. It works. > > Example of larger items split for a screenplay

[tw5] Re: stroll drift tiddlyroam streams use cases?

2020-06-25 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Done already ... example of 4 Notos in one "document" demo (TWEET BIN) ... https://tidbits.wiki/noto/notoMAKER.html#TWEET%20BIN. Cruso is over 500 entries. It works. Example of larger items split for a screenplay (MISERY) ... https://tidbits.wiki/noto/notoMAKER.html#MISERY%20PAGINATED

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2020-06-25 Thread Birthe C
TT, Could you be tricked into writing a NotoWritey about what is splitology? When you use it and how. (examples please?) The most important. Difficult to imagine without having an eye on the subject. That could be of great help for anyone wanting to use NotoWritey. (secure the success) I

[tw5] Re: stroll drift tiddlyroam streams use cases?

2020-06-25 Thread TiddlyTweeter
David Gifford wrote: > > @TT > > ... clean interface .. > Interface is not Marks' greatest strength. But he gives the structure to do it. I, currently, most interested in he does It. Presentation later. TT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

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2020-06-25 Thread David Gifford
@TT You are right that Noto is agnostic on tiddler size. And I think the tool itself is wonderful, as I commented in the post to Mark that you are replying to. All I was trying to say is that it is not optimal if what you want to do is generate a lot of short items and have a clean interface,

[tw5] Re: stroll drift tiddlyroam streams use cases?

2020-06-25 Thread David Gifford
Hi Mark The link to Streams is https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/streams.html. (the thread is entitled " Preview: keyboard driven draggable bullets") Thanks for the updated link to NotoWritey. I will check to make sure this link is in the toolmpa entries for NoteWritey. On Thursday, June 25,

[tw5] Re: stroll drift tiddlyroam streams use cases?

2020-06-25 Thread David Gifford
Mark S, Hmm, can't edit posts anymore. I was going to add for you to keep in mind that I am the guy desperate enough to create ways in Stroll to hide the edit toolbar, tag area, type and field area and even title from the edit template. Maybe that will help you see how important a clean,

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2020-06-25 Thread Birthe C
TT, Keyboard tools, that MUST be Editor Toolbar. I read it like good for writing longer texts, but not for outlining. That was the reason for my answer above. You are sure right, the buttons below can change if wanted. Yesterday I thought of you and wrote a Notowritey tiddler, on what looks

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2020-06-25 Thread TiddlyTweeter
David Gifford wrote: > 2) Even though it is an outliner, it seems more geared toward writing and > editing larger paragraphs toward longer pieces, > Incorrect. Noto is completely AGNOSTIC on Tiddler Size. In FACT its INBUILT SLICING ("*Splitology*") is fantastically good, and needed.

Re: [tw5] Re: stroll drift tiddlyroam streams use cases?

2020-06-25 Thread Michael Arndt
I'm still trying to find my way, but what Birthe says resonates a lot with me. I currently believe I want to do different things at different times. Quick note taking and journaling, followed by a review process (like "interstitials" after an hour or so), followed by a daily, weekly and monthly

[tw5] Re: stroll drift tiddlyroam streams use cases?

2020-06-25 Thread TiddlyTweeter
Birthe I THINK David means *the bottom bar*, that uses words not mini-icons. That is easy to make elegant. Right now, in my understanding, Mark is focused on getting it to work well, not aesthetics yet. As I said, he needs a chance to get to it! :-) TT On Thursday, 25 June 2020 15:18:04

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2020-06-25 Thread Birthe C
Dave, I prefer using both Streams and Notowritey, because i cannot really decide. They are both very useful, but inspire in different directions. That might not be the same for other people, inspired in other directions. But you comment about cluttered feel, did you see in the bottom that you

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2020-06-25 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 5:51:11 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote: > > Hi Mark S > > I had another look, and yes, I had seen the most recent incarnation of > NotoWritey when I posted (if > https://marxsal.github.io/various/notowritey-outliner.html is still the > location). I would still

[tw5] Re: stroll drift tiddlyroam streams use cases?

2020-06-25 Thread David Gifford
Hi Mark S I had another look, and yes, I had seen the most recent incarnation of NotoWritey when I posted (if https://marxsal.github.io/various/notowritey-outliner.html is still the location). I would still stand by my statements: 1) It is similar to Stream: it is an outliner editable in

[tw5] Re: stroll drift tiddlyroam streams use cases?

2020-06-25 Thread Saq Imtiaz
I would like to add that Streams is meant as a reference plugin to showcase how to: - create tiddler hierarchies on the fly - implement keyboard driven workflows by using core widgets and functionality. There are changes that could be made to make specific writing/outlining use cases better,

[tw5] Re: stroll drift tiddlyroam streams use cases?

2020-06-25 Thread TiddlyTweeter
For those on email I revised my last post. On Thursday, 25 June 2020 14:15:07 UTC+2, TiddlyTweeter wrote: > > David Gifford wrote (my emphasis): > > *Stroll*: one time experiment I did to replicate a lot of Roam >> functionality in TiddlyWiki. Helpful two column structure. Helpful >> tutorials.

[tw5] Re: stroll drift tiddlyroam streams use cases?

2020-06-25 Thread TiddlyTweeter
David Gifford wrote (my emphasis): *Stroll*: one time experiment I did to replicate a lot of Roam > functionality in TiddlyWiki. Helpful two column structure. Helpful > tutorials. Process: Use links to link tiddlers, use eyeball tab to view > backlinks in different ways, shift click on links

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2020-06-24 Thread Dave Parker
Thank you all for the info (especially Dave :) This is a good summary I feel like a kid in a very large candy store (with eyes bigger than my stomach), ha ha -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and

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2020-06-24 Thread TW Tones
David, > I have been seeing this on Twitter but not here, that I recall. This > TiddlyWiki: https://learnawesome.org/tiddlywiki.html imitates this site: > https://notes.andymatuschak.org/About_these_notes > I had not seen this thanks for sharing. Perhaps one more implementation/edition of

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2020-06-24 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
> > NotoWritey is similar to Streams but is geared more toward writing than > productivity and outlining. The nodes that open for editing have an editing > toolbar, which creates a cluttered feel, but increases functionality when > writing a paragraph. > I'm not sure if by your comment you've

[tw5] Re: stroll drift tiddlyroam streams use cases?

2020-06-24 Thread David Gifford
Birthe Yes I was playing with it tonight. I got the same as you re: importing. But then suddenly it snapped aright, and I was able to import. I now have my stylesheet, fonts, and I replaced the messy viewtemplate they created with my Stroll refs as links. I just ditched the preview plugin,

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2020-06-24 Thread Birthe C
Dave, I have seen and testet it. Try to import something into it. Then you get the title $:/Import, vertical and no tiddlercontrols. In the settings there are checks for closing the tiddlers to the right...but they open and closed as they please. At least they do in the version I have had my

[tw5] Re: stroll drift tiddlyroam streams use cases?

2020-06-24 Thread David Gifford
Just to throw one more in the mix. I have been seeing this on Twitter but not here, that I recall. This TiddlyWiki: https://learnawesome.org/tiddlywiki.html imitates this site: https://notes.andymatuschak.org/About_these_notes On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 11:18:41 AM UTC-5

[tw5] Re: stroll drift tiddlyroam streams use cases?

2020-06-24 Thread Birthe C
Dave and Dave. Tony K did try to add the two column structure. I think he gave up for now. I have had a go also, it looked nice enough until I closed the sidebar - in the left side. Tony also made a version with Tiddlymap. Very nice explanation of the different versions, Dave. Birthe -- You

[tw5] Re: stroll drift tiddlyroam streams use cases?

2020-06-24 Thread David Gifford
Hi Dave, greetings from Dave. Stroll: one time experiment I did to replicate a lot of Roam functionality in TiddlyWiki. Helpful two column structure. Helpful tutorials. Process: Use links to link tiddlers, use eyeball tab to view backlinks in different ways, shift click on links to open a

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2020-06-24 Thread TW Tones
Dave, Having not come from a roam like experience I am personally taken with the dual story aspect of Stroll and love streams for its own sake. Stream is also flexible enough to build on and enhance. There is also Notoritty of Marks Notowritey - Outliner/editor for TW Regards Tony On

[tw5] Re: stroll drift tiddlyroam streams use cases?

2020-06-24 Thread Dave Parker
Ha ha, thanks! I actually did install that plug in and like it, still unsure of how I'm going to incorporate it in to my "official" work flow. I like the drag and drop aspect, and the quickness, and I'm also warming to the whole date-as-tiddler-name thing, except I have traditionally used

[tw5] Re: stroll drift tiddlyroam streams use cases?

2020-06-24 Thread Birthe C
Dave, While you are paralysed by choice, you could start using streams. Not instead of any of the other, but because it is very fast to write - and fun too. You are not the only one having a hard time deciding. Just look at all the questions about mixing and matching. Birthe -- You