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Another one for Eagle is collaboration. That is where a group of
designers all work on the product, basically from home and when they
are done, al the parts fit
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three wire fan with a tachometer.
I tried before to make an analog fan controller but without using a dozen
op amps it is hard to implement any kind of decent algorithm.
But BEFORE you try and improve the Rb performance you need to have some way
to MEASURE its performance. This is likely much har
rious layers is *not* very good time wise. There is
> indeed a
> real need for some sort of overlay to take care of that issue. I’d still
> love to know if
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> they do
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ng the wire correctly
or not accounting for velocity factor correctly or noise. But even so NTP
using a 1PPS reference clock is going to keep the computer's system clock
accurate at close to the level off the system clock's resolution
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>> difference
>> between the position of the stars and where you would have expecteded them
>> at the time when the picture has been taken.
>>
>> Some usefull software projects are:
>> http://astro.corlan.net/gcx/
>> http://www.clearskyinstitute.com/xephem/
>> http://st
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stars every night and take an average. In concept it is very simple.
But today we can measure a tens of thousands of stars per day from a
suburban roof top.
Almost all other methods of measuring the Earth's rotation do not
collect enough data. You need tens or hundreds of thousands of da
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Lowest price I've found is BasicPCB.com They charge $3 per square
inch for 2 layers with mask and legend. Minimum is three boards of 1
square inch. So you actually can place a $9 order with them. They
are a USA based company.
They accept standard Gerber files. This is very imported as a
Lowest price I've found is BasicPCB.com They charge $3 per square
inch for 2 layers with mask and legend. Minimum is three boards of 1
square inch. So you actually can place a $9 order with them. They
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They accept standard Gerber files. This is very impotent as a
cooler than a 7805, though!
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Are we still talking about NTP? If so this kind of stuff is lost in the
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even at low baud rates.
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You can assign most functions to most pins and the CPU is roughly an order
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u have to remember what this thing replaces. In ham radio, some people
are using vacuum tube oscillators with mechanical variable capacitor
tuning. Maybe some advanced rigs use gear drive on the capacitor shaft to
allow more exact tuning This Si chip is considerably better then 1940's
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the later expect worse performance.For best performance copy and paste
the Linux PPS code and then re-build the Linux kernel with your new driver.
Getting event time stamps much better then this requires some purpose built
hardware outside of the computer.
Chris Albertso
L NTP server?
Time will be within a couple tens of milliseconds they will be in sync well
enough that the eye can not notice.But this means setting up a local
NTP server. Any spare computer can do this you can connect a GPS if you
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erial data stream from the GPS, and automatically set the
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But what is that? I bet if varies a lot.
And like I wrote before it may not even matter as phones don't
directly use the 5 volt DC that these chargers produce.
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can only sample at 2.3 MSPS?
Obviously I'n not directly sampling there 10MHz signal. I'm sampling
there frequency difference that a mixer gives me.
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>> On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 18:05:16 -0700
>> Chris Albertson <albertson.ch...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> The problem, I think with your Internet sync's NTP
ystem time sync is for a little bit tougher case than a local
>>> area
>>> network.
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>>> --- Graham
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> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/Trimble-Resolution-T-Timing-
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>
> I've had excellent luck with my GPS 18x LVC feeding my Windows 7 PC
> running ToyNTP via a hardware serial port:
> <http://www.dxatlas.com/ToyNtp/>. It steers the system clock using a
> Kalman filter and is remarkably good. I typically see offsets <10
> microseconds. The only caveat is that ToyNTP requires NMEA output at
> 4800bps. Other speeds and other formats won't work; keep this in mind if
> you use older GPS receivers that might not output NMEA.
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ce with little effort
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ignal and trip off the wrong edge. Yes it makes such a
mistake hard to find but, I think that was the point.
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>> "no win no fee" lawyers here now in the UK. It is a big "industry". I've
>> not seen it move to things like technical comments about products, but it
>> could well happen.
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system time using software, why not discipline the mother board's XO? Yes
but it is a large amount of work to modify an existing product.
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dial-up phone modem in the days before always-on Internet This was in the
1980's and it worked well enough. The normal case was "outage" as the
modem connection was short and only a few times per day. But was good
enough to re-calibrate a local clock
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>>> (unsuccessfully) to produce a single schematic in Eagle, let alone a
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design
>>> time and delivery.
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