Re: [time-nuts] anyone tried the cheap Lea-6T modules seen on eBay?

2014-11-26 Thread Dale J. Robertson
They use the LEA-6T for DIY drone applications because it provides raw carrier phase information. The raw carrier info is compared with the raw carrier data from a nearby fixed (and surveyed for an extended period) GPS receiver. The position error of the fixed station is subtracted from the

Re: [time-nuts] rs-422 rs-232 to fast ethernet converter

2014-11-24 Thread Dale J. Robertson
I you are really really dead set on building your own there are lots of chips available with varying levels of external parts needed. An economical and versatile solution is to use one of the digi TS-One or portserver TS terminal servers. They are a little pricey new, but, last time I needed

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB for Time Nuts

2014-08-10 Thread Dale J. Robertson
Hi, How does patent infringement litigation get started anyway? I would think that the infringement claim would have to be specific i.e. you are infringing on our patent number blah, claims blah, blah, blah blah. not just you are infringing on our patent. you need to halt production

Re: [time-nuts] Wanted: Ace III gps receiver for Datum TS 2100

2014-07-04 Thread Dale J. Robertson
It's unclear whether you already have an aceIII installed and believe it needs to be replaced, or, your 2100 does not yet have a GPS receiver and you want to do the conversion. A good link describing one variation of the 'always busy gps' problem is

Re: [time-nuts] Using a UBlox NEO-6 GPS module for calibrating a PIC microprocessor based timer.

2013-12-01 Thread Dale J. Robertson
A unidirectional error of 1/100th of a second would accumulate around a minute and a half per day. It's been a long time since I laid eyes on a mechanical pendulum clock. I remember the clock in my childhood home kept better time than that. ( I became odd very early. I compulsively compared

Re: [time-nuts] Crude Survey Technique

2013-11-21 Thread Dale J. Robertson
An interesting technique for improving the accuracy of single band gps is embodied in an open source program/project called rtklib. Essentially it uses one GPS receiver in a fixed location that has been very carefully surveyed (gps reported location averaged over a long period) as a phase

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna splitter

2013-06-29 Thread Dale J. Robertson
You might want to try using a 'power passing splitter' as marketed to satellite TV and Cable TV. there are lots of them on ebay in the neighborhood of $5. As I recall there was a gps splitter project on the web that used a cable splitter and 'bullet' amplifier. If you can live with 4dB loss,

Re: [time-nuts] Good (cheap) PIC chip choice for project?

2013-05-25 Thread Dale J. Robertson
Even with graphics it works fine (I think it works better) headless using X or VNC Sent from my iPhone On May 25, 2013, at 17:05, mike cook mc235...@gmail.com wrote: Le 25 mai 2013 à 22:53, Jim Lux a écrit : On 5/25/13 10:55 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: 3) the Pi is almost PC-like

Re: [time-nuts] Remote GPS Oscillator Steering

2013-04-18 Thread Dale J. Robertson
10 MHz over unshielded twisted pair works very well. That's what Ethernet 10BaseT is after all. Either scrounge some pulse com transformers out of ancient Ethernet cards or use a pair of 'video baluns' which are sold into the closed circuit television industry for transporting video over cat5

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB d-psk-r update. Seems a reasonable solution

2013-03-29 Thread Dale J. Robertson
If I'm not mistaken, the oscillator frequency needs to be an integer multiple of 240 KHz. Dale Sent from my iPhone On Mar 29, 2013, at 8:37, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi There are a variety of VCXO's and TCVCXO's on the Mouser site. Prices seem to range from $3 to $10 for the

Re: [time-nuts] SSR-6t Connector

2013-01-05 Thread Dale J. Robertson
That header is used for programming the on board PIC. I've rung it out as follows: Header pin 1 - PIC pin 18 MCLR (active low) Header pin 2 - PIC pins 28 40 VDD Header pin 3 - PIC pins 29 39 VSS Header pin 4 - PIC pin 21 PGD1 Header pin 5 - PIC pin 22 PGC1 73 Dale NV8U Sent from my iPhone On

Re: [time-nuts] SSR-6t Connector

2012-12-21 Thread Dale J. Robertson
PIC is a PIC24FJ64GA-004-I/PT Sent from my iPhone On Dec 21, 2012, at 2:20 PM, KD0GLS kd0...@mninter.net wrote: I'm looking at Synergy's Tech Note #493 for the SSR-6Tr and trying to make out the part number of the PIC from the picture. Looks like it might be a PIC24F part. Would

Re: [time-nuts] SSR-6t Connector

2012-12-21 Thread Dale J. Robertson
Though the $35 special is only good for 1 unit per person, Synergy offers a 10% educational/ham radio/experimenter discount for additional/subsequent units bringing the price to around $63 for time-nuts who need more than 1. I'm thinking the other unit they have announced (without the PIC)

Re: [time-nuts] Just for Fun - Synergy Systems SSR-6T PPS Comparison

2012-12-20 Thread Dale J. Robertson
Just curious, what connector/pigtail/adapter board did you use to access the 2x5 1.27mm pitch connector on your SSR-6T. Thanks, Dale NV8U -Original Message- From: David Martin Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 1:07 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Just for Fun - Synergy

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Alternatives

2012-12-06 Thread Dale J. Robertson
Arduino is Dirt Cheap! At it's cheapest it is just an atmel AVR, a crystal, 2 caps and a resistor with the arduino bootloader programmed into it. Easily obtainable from several sources for 5 bucks or so. All the code, toolchain etc. (the ecosystem as it were) is free. it's real easy to put one

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Alternatives

2012-12-06 Thread Dale J. Robertson
all either work with a crystal two caps and a resistor. Most will run fine with none of the above on the internal clock. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Dale J. Robertson Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Alternatives

2012-12-06 Thread Dale J. Robertson
tools. You can do it on several processors, none of which come from AVR (and thus use the Arduino chain). Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Dale J. Robertson Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 1:47 PM To: Discussion

Re: [time-nuts] Confused about Rubidium oscillators

2012-11-14 Thread Dale J. Robertson
Bob, Which category do the FE-5680A's fall into? Dale NV8U -Original Message- From: Bob Camp Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 6:28 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Confused about Rubidium oscillators Hi There are several

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB New Modulation five cent demodulator / carrier regenerator ?

2012-10-23 Thread Dale J. Robertson
OK, According to the Phillips original data sheets quick reference chart the chip wants to see around 1mV of input signal. The output will not be a digital data stream with ones and zeros corresponding to the phase of the input. Instead, from what I can glean from the datasheet, it will be a

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB New Modulation five cent demodulator / carrier regenerator ?

2012-10-22 Thread Dale J. Robertson
if it worked Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Dale J. Robertson d...@nap-us.com wrote: Paul, I'm trying to understand your reference to 'differential BPSK' all the RDS references I've looked at indicate a 180 degree phase shift just like WWVB. I'm thinking that differential

[time-nuts] WWVB New Modulation five cent demodulator / carrier regenerator ?

2012-10-21 Thread Dale J. Robertson
While looking for other stuff I came across the data sheet for the NXP Semi SAA6579. The chip is a purpose built demodulator for RDS (which utilises a 57 KHz ABPSK subcarrier on FM broadcast that is) used for traffic, song info etc. This chip has an anti-aliasing front end low pass filter and

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB New Modulation five cent demodulator / carrier regenerator ?

2012-10-21 Thread Dale J. Robertson
, 2012, at 10:03 PM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: Because it use differential BPSK. I have a number of them and was trying it. There is a test pin that might make it useful. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 9:14 PM, Dale J. Robertson d...@nap-us.com wrote: While looking

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB New Modulation five cent demodulator / carrier regenerator ?

2012-10-21 Thread Dale J. Robertson
if it worked Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Dale J. Robertson d...@nap-us.com wrote: Paul, I'm trying to understand your reference to 'differential BPSK' all the RDS references I've looked at indicate a 180 degree phase shift just like WWVB. I'm thinking

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: Re: Contact: Jupiter GPS questions

2012-10-19 Thread Dale J. Robertson
Using the arduino infrastructure can be dirt cheap! The arduino itself is just an Atmel atMega microcontroller with the arduino bootloader burned into the bootloader section of the controllers flash. For embedding you can buy a DIP atmel atmega328 chip already burned for less than $5. There are

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Response

2012-09-27 Thread Dale J. Robertson
The AM characteristics have not changed. That means that there is at least 10% carrier present at all times. The transmission format seems pretty well documented. The remaining mysteries are in data formatting. Regards, Dale NV8U -Original Message- From: Peter Monta Sent: Thursday,

Re: [time-nuts] Why the fuss?

2012-09-27 Thread Dale J. Robertson
Which for all intents and purposes means nothing that looks like an antenna to John Q. Public. What if your GPS antenna looked like a vent pipe? or a Bird House? It may be difficult to hide a decent HF antenna, But, a 1.5 GHz antenna can be virtually invisible. Dale NV8U -Original

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Now a Monopoly

2012-09-26 Thread Dale J. Robertson
The most likely scenario is that XW has a patent pending on technology which permits the manufacture of a very cheap dependable time-code receiver for the mass market. Think along the lines of receiver subsystems below $5 (maybe below $1). If there were a market for WWVB timing receivers you

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for CA3130E IC...

2012-04-13 Thread Dale J. Robertson
Jameco www.jameco.com seems to have plenty of them. On 4/13/2012 12:46 AM, Burt I. Weiner wrote: Hopefully someone out there has a stash of what I'm looking for. I need 4 ea IC type CA3130E. Need this specific number. It's an 8 pin DIP. I've tried DigiKey and Mouser. No luck. Thanks,

Re: [time-nuts] Best location for a GPS antenna...?

2012-04-11 Thread Dale J. Robertson
It seems to me (and I would be more than happy to hear any differing opinions) that your GPS antenna only needs to be high enough to be able to see a reasonable slice of sky. i.e. if your workshop were in the middle of a circular clearing 80 feet in diameter in a forest with an 80 foot tree

Re: [time-nuts] IOTECH 488 EPROM

2012-03-18 Thread Dale J. Robertson
If it's a 44pin plcc I can burn it. Dale Robertson NV8U -Original Message- From: Joseph Gray jg...@zianet.com Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 3:18am To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] IOTECH 488 EPROM The text file accompanying

Re: [time-nuts] OT - Portable Digital 'scope

2012-02-23 Thread Dale J. Robertson
I own one of these that I bought directly from Seeed Studios. Seeed also sells some very inexpensive MCX-BNC females for use with these as well as 1x-10x probes with mcx connectors. I have had their single channel version (DSO Nano) for a while and have found it handy. The DSO Quad has a

Re: [time-nuts] TM 5680-0211 for 5680A series Rubidiums

2012-02-01 Thread Dale J. Robertson
I Don't know what problem you all are having. Rob Kimberley's email address (robkimber...@btinternet.com) is present plain as day in the from header of his post. subject was : Re: [time-nuts] FE-.5680A trimming resolution posted 1/31/2012 4:14PM Master your email or it will master you! Dale

Re: [time-nuts] SLIP vs Ethernet for NTP

2011-10-23 Thread Dale J. Robertson
this was a mainstream application on a host. So who knows what shape the OS's are in in regards to real-time performance on serial line pools. Having said all that, Assuming you have the serial line hardware available. It would certainly be an interesting experiment! Regards, Dale J. Robertson On 10/23

[time-nuts] Source for HP 53132A ROM images

2011-08-31 Thread Dale J. Robertson
files? I can't even imagine what Agilent might charge to repair the instrument! Thanks, Dale J. Robertson NV8U ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow