Re: [time-nuts] Synchronisizing a 100MHz TCXO with Tbold, pse help

2011-09-19 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 03:52:15 +0200 Peter Krengel krengelda...@gmx.de wrote: I like to synchronisize a fine 100MHz TCXO with the 10MHz output of the Tbold. The TCXO has a EFC input. I know this can be done using a PLL but I do not want to add noise to the very good noise parameters of the

Re: [time-nuts] Synchronisizing a 100MHz TCXO with Tbold, pse help

2011-09-19 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
Replace the 10 mHz oscillator with a divide by ten counter driven by the 100 mHz signal. Connect the control voltage from the Tbolt to the 100 mHz oscillator through a low pass filter and voltage divider that provides the minimum signal required for discipline. Tboltmon can set gain etc., even

Re: [time-nuts] Synchronisizing a 100MHz TCXO with Tbold, pse help

2011-09-19 Thread EWKehren
Peter I would use a PLL like the ADF 4001 because of its low noise floor and depending of which Tbolt, its phase noise is very good. The advantage is that you can pick the filter response in such a way that you take advantage of the individual Osc. parameters. Bert Kehren In a message

Re: [time-nuts] Synchronisizing a 100MHz TCXO with Tbold, pse help

2011-09-19 Thread Christian Vogel
Hi Tom, Would it be possible for your application to let the 100 MHz TCXO free-run? Then you could use one or two of the ADC channels to sample the TBolt 10 MHz and 1PPS leaving all the rest of the channels to do real work. This would then give you all the information you need to apply phase

Re: [time-nuts] Synchronisizing a 100MHz TCXO with Tbold, pse help

2011-09-19 Thread Tom Van Baak
but of course: Whatever algorithms you put into your after-the-fact software correction will have an influence similar to a hardware PLL. Chris, I'm curious about this. What are the inherent limits of each approach? One difference comes to mind -- with a software post-processing solution you

Re: [time-nuts] Synchronisizing a 100MHz TCXO with Tbold, pse help

2011-09-19 Thread Bob Camp
the TCXO will have to follow the TBolt... Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Peter Krengel Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 9:52 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Synchronisizing a 100MHz TCXO with Tbold, pse

[time-nuts] Synchronisizing a 100MHz TCXO with Tbold, pse help

2011-09-19 Thread ed breya
If the 100 MHz VCTCXO is fundamentally better than the 10 MHz VC?XO in the Tbolt, then I would go with Chuck's idea to just use it with a divide by 10 in front, as the main oscillator. You will still have a good 10 MHz signal available from the divider - just buffer it up and maybe harmonic

[time-nuts] Synchronisizing a 100MHz TCXO with Tbold, pse help

2011-09-19 Thread ed breya
If your 100 MHz is already at HCMOS levels, then just use a 74AC family decade divider or D-FF for the downconversion to 10 MHz - very straightforward. A small series damping resistor may be needed if the 100 MHz signal has to be carried very far from its source. Ed

Re: [time-nuts] Synchronisizing a 100MHz TCXO with Tbold, pse help

2011-09-19 Thread John Miles
...@febo.com] On Behalf Of ewkeh...@aol.com Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 4:04 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Synchronisizing a 100MHz TCXO with Tbold, pse help Peter I would use a PLL like the ADF 4001 because of its low noise floor and depending of which Tbolt, its phase noise

[time-nuts] Synchronisizing a 100MHz TCXO with Tbold, pse help

2011-09-18 Thread Peter Krengel
Hello group, I like to synchronisize a fine 100MHz TCXO with the 10MHz output of the Tbold. The TCXO has a EFC input. I know this can be done using a PLL but I do not want to add noise to the very good noise parameters of the TCXO cause the 100MHz signal is to be used to clock a FPGA which