Re: [time-nuts] Line Voltage frequency Interface morphed to batteries

2011-11-29 Thread Bill Hawkins
I should have been more direct. What does a charged flash capacitor have to do with safety concerns for low voltage batteries touching the tongue? You can have the last word. It's time I moved on. Bill Hawkins -Original Message- From: J. Forster Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 10:28

[time-nuts] z3801a, z3805a, z3815a, z3816a, thunderbolt and thunderbolt II

2011-11-29 Thread Mark C. Stephens
Hi All, Risking opening a potential can of worms, has anyone have a specs roundup of GPSDO? Ideally, Maximums of Phase noise, Jitter, accuracy... Many thanks, Mark ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

[time-nuts] Bluetooth for Tbolt

2011-11-29 Thread EWKehren
Searching on our favorite auction site for a not time or frequency related project I ran across a Bluetooth adapter 190527209620 and 190508188703. After checking with some of you, smarter than me, I am convinced this module will work as a Tbolt interface, eliminating that pesky cable and

Re: [time-nuts] Line Voltage frequency Interface morphed to batteries

2011-11-29 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
I remember one tasting a battery on my tongue. No shock, but a really nasty, bitter taste. Not recommended. -- Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R c...@omen.com www.omen.com Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications Omen Technology Inc The High Reliability Software 10255

Re: [time-nuts] z3801a, z3805a, z3815a, z3816a, thunderbolt and thunderbolt II

2011-11-29 Thread Hal Murray
ma...@non-stop.com.au said: Hi All, Risking opening a potential can of worms, has anyone have a specs roundup of GPSDO? Ideally, Maximums of Phase noise, Jitter, accuracy... One of the variables is the quality of the antenna, both position and loss in the cable. -- These are my

[time-nuts] Compensating phase differnces in dual frequency GPS receviers?

2011-11-29 Thread Attila Kinali
Moin, The recent thread on SDR GPS receivers lead me to think again about a dual frequency GPS receiver design. But now something crossed my feable mind that i havent seen before: When processing the L1 and L2 frquencies, they have to be seperated quite early in the process, maybe even before the

Re: [time-nuts] z3801a, z3805a, z3815a, z3816a, thunderbolt and thunderbolt II

2011-11-29 Thread Azelio Boriani
A long-time data collection? I can test an HP58503A (I think it is the Z3801A), I have the Z3815A and the TBolt. Of course I need time to test... On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.netwrote: ma...@non-stop.com.au said: Hi All, Risking opening a potential can of

[time-nuts] UK - NOTIFICATION OF GPS JAMMING EXERCISES

2011-11-29 Thread David J Taylor
Folks, I have received the following: ___ NOTIFICATION OF GPS JAMMING EXERCISES RAF SPADEADAM, CUMBRIA, MARCH 2012 Dates: Between the 5th of March to the 9th of March 2012 inclusive. Times: 0800 -1800 GMT. Location of MULTIPLE jammers: based

Re: [time-nuts] Bluetooth for Tbolt

2011-11-29 Thread Robert Atkinson
Hi Bert, About a year ago I bought a packaged RS-232 to Bluetooth adaptor on ebay (about 1/20 the cost of an apparently identical device from a professional solution provider). Looks just a 9 way D plug and shell with an antenna were the cable normally goes.  Plugged it into the front of my

Re: [time-nuts] z3801a, z3805a, z3815a, z3816a, thunderbolt and thunderbolt II

2011-11-29 Thread mike cook
Le 29/11/2011 10:08, Mark C. Stephens a écrit : Hi All, Risking opening a potential can of worms, has anyone have a specs roundup of GPSDO? Ideally, Maximums of Phase noise, Jitter, accuracy... lots of great stuff at leapsecond.com ___ time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Help with TCXO

2011-11-29 Thread Azelio Boriani
FPGA time interval counter? With an analog interpolator? No? Then, at most, you will get a nS resolution. I have a 2.5nS resolution TIC with 100MHz clock using four phases from the Xilinx DCM in a Spartan3. On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 1:23 AM, Michael Malloy mech...@gmail.com wrote: Ok great thank

[time-nuts] How to use Prologix GPIB-USB controller with Mathematica

2011-11-29 Thread Henk ten Pierick
Hello, How to use Prologix GPIB-USB controller with Mathematica on a Mac, that is the question. Does the Prologix have a name so that I can write: Open[Prologix GPIB-USB] ? regards, Henk ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To

Re: [time-nuts] How to use Prologix GPIB-USB controller with Mathematica

2011-11-29 Thread Azelio Boriani
Yes, you should start first the utilities included with the Prologix package: there you will see the name assigned to the USB/GPIB resource and then use it with your application. I have done that way with the Agilent 82357B (at work) and the Tektronix AD007 (at home but the AD007 is a networked

[time-nuts] Unplug T-bolt before booting up...??

2011-11-29 Thread Michael Baker
Hello, TimeNutters-- I have heard of the problem of needing to unplug a T-bolt before booting up the (Windows) computer but I have never seen that problem myself. I have had a T-bolt running on several different desktops and laptops and never experienced it. I do recall that there was a fix

[time-nuts] Tongue Testing battery charge levels....

2011-11-29 Thread Michael Baker
Hello, TimeNutters-- I have used the tip-of-the-tongue test for determining the state of charge of batteries for many years when my bench meters are elsewhere. The strength of the bitter taste is proportional to the voltage and I have gotten pretty good at estimating the charge condition of the

Re: [time-nuts] Unplug T-bolt before booting up...??

2011-11-29 Thread David VanHorn
Probably related to psychomouse, which I've seen on USB serial ports with NMEA devices attached. What happens in that case is that windows does a device discovery and on hearing the M in things like GPRMC, it decides to install a microsoft ballpoint mouse driver which immediately starts

Re: [time-nuts] Tongue Testing battery charge levels....

2011-11-29 Thread David VanHorn
So you wouldn't advise it with an Eveready #497 battery? VVBG Even with that one I can't imagine getting enough current across the heart to matter. There is more than one reason that defibrillators use such large paddles placed across the chest cavity. Still, I value the functionality of my

Re: [time-nuts] Unplug T-bolt before booting up...??

2011-11-29 Thread Mike Seguin
Usually you'll see the mouse cursor jumping all over. When that happens, unplug the Thunderbolt serial cable. Mouse cursor should stabilize. Then go in under Device Manager and look for a Microsoft serial mouse. You want to disable it, not uninstall. That should fix it. There is a Windows

Re: [time-nuts] Unplug T-bolt before booting up...??

2011-11-29 Thread David J Taylor
Hello, TimeNutters-- I have heard of the problem of needing to unplug a T-bolt before booting up the (Windows) computer but I have never seen that problem myself. I have had a T-bolt running on several different desktops and laptops and never experienced it. I do recall that there was a fix

[time-nuts] FE-5680A results

2011-11-29 Thread Murray Greenman
Bert, There's a very nice way to separate diurnal thermal sensitivity from long term ageing. It applies equally well to Rb sources as to OCXOs, which is where I've used it. What you do is set up to make frequency observations against a more stable reference (of course in this case a GPSDO or

Re: [time-nuts] Unplug T-bolt before booting up...??

2011-11-29 Thread David VanHorn
That sure sounds like Psychomouse.. I've never seen it happen except on USB serial ports. Apparently when they enumerate, windows tries to figure out what sort of device might be connected beyond the port, makes the wrong diagnosis, and all hell breaks loose.

Re: [time-nuts] Tongue Testing battery charge levels....

2011-11-29 Thread Robert Atkinson
As a teenager I had some experience with tongues and electricity. One was actually lips I'd demonstrate the slight tingle from a 1.5V AA cell between the lips, then hand my victim a similar sized 22.5V photoflash battery! On an other occasion I tried to strip a length of bell wire / zip-cord

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A results

2011-11-29 Thread EWKehren
Murray Thank you for the info. It would how ever tie up equipment which I want to use for other projects. I am only looking at the FE5680A once a week and since we have right now what we call Chamber of Commerce weather the AC is most the time off. Temperature control will be a must any way,

Re: [time-nuts] Symmetricom TimeSource 2700

2011-11-29 Thread Kevin Rosenberg
Hi Charles, Thanks very much for the information on the pinout of the TOD connector on the TS2700. I verified the PPS signal between pins 6 and 1. It's duration and voltage matches your report. I compared the timing of the PPS signal with the PPS of two synchronized thunderbolts. Interesting,

Re: [time-nuts] Tongue Testing battery charge levels....

2011-11-29 Thread J. L. Trantham
It could be a 'taste' thing. Eveready tastes better than Duracell? Joe -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of David VanHorn Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:26 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement

Re: [time-nuts] Tongue Testing battery charge levels....

2011-11-29 Thread David VanHorn
Google it. :) From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of J. L. Trantham [jlt...@att.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:58 PM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Tongue

Re: [time-nuts] SDR GPS

2011-11-29 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 24/11/11 12:19, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Has any of you played with this: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/8238 I have. I managed to log data, write code to use FFT correlation search and then lock-up to a good strong bird and decode the sub-code. One has to look in a few

[time-nuts] test only

2011-11-29 Thread Gary Beech
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Re: [time-nuts] Tongue Testing battery charge levels....

2011-11-29 Thread Jim Lux
On 11/29/11 3:38 PM, David VanHorn wrote: Google it. :) From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of J. L. Trantham [jlt...@att.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:58 PM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency

Re: [time-nuts] Unplug T-bolt before booting up...??

2011-11-29 Thread Justin Pinnix
Happens with traditional serial ports, too. On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 12:53 PM, David VanHorn d.vanh...@elec-solutions.com wrote: That sure sounds like Psychomouse.. I've never seen it happen except on USB serial ports. Apparently when they enumerate, windows tries to figure out what sort of

Re: [time-nuts] Symmetricom TimeSource 2700

2011-11-29 Thread Peter Bell
Assuming it's just tracking the CDMA pilots, the 1PPS output is likely not aligned with UTC. The problem is that the pilot channel is just a PN sequence with no modulating data - so when you lock to it you can know that your local clock is 19200Hz * 64 chips/bit (1.228MHz) - but that's all you

Re: [time-nuts] Unplug T-bolt before booting up...??

2011-11-29 Thread Richard W. Solomon
Not with the Compaq 486 antique I use. Sometimes progress shows we are too smart !! 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- From: Justin Pinnix jus...@fuzzythinking.com Sent: Nov 29, 2011 7:03 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re:

Re: [time-nuts] Symmetricom TimeSource 2700

2011-11-29 Thread Peter Bell
Assuming it's just tracking the CDMA pilots, the 1PPS output is likely not aligned with UTC. The problem is that the pilot channel is just a PN sequence with no modulating data - so when you lock to it you can know that your local clock is 19200Hz * 64 chips/bit (1.228MHz) - but that's all you

Re: [time-nuts] Symmetricom TimeSource 2700

2011-11-29 Thread Dennis Ferguson
I think they track both the CDMA pilot and sync channels. The latter channel sends a message which tells the phone about the cell, and gives gives the phone enough information to figure out the time of day. I'm pretty sure CDMA phones have to know what time it is before they register with the