Re: [time-nuts] 32768 Hz from 10 MHz

2012-02-03 Thread Dennis Ferguson
On 3 Feb, 2012, at 14:15 , Orin Eman wrote: On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: It's possible to use Bresenham with two integers 10,000,000 and 32,768 but I found no way to perform all the 24-bit calculations on an 8-bit PIC quick enough. Removing

Re: [time-nuts] ANFSCD - Synchronizing time in home video recorders

2012-02-03 Thread Azelio Boriani
Yes, DLL not DDL I made a mistake. Actually it is not in my schedule to make such a divisor, just for speculation. The main thought here is that, as you pointed out, it can be done avoiding PLL and DLL. On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: OK for the PSOC

Re: [time-nuts] FE5680 missing PPS soln

2012-02-03 Thread Rob Kimberley
Mine was a green LED out of the junk box, but I did use 330R in series. 1k8 seems rather large. I will probably put something between the 5680 and the LED later. I have a bin full of old 74xx, so should be easy. I've seen lots of threads about the 5680 and tweaks etc., but not much on actually

Re: [time-nuts] Building a GPSDO trouble using Jupiter-T

2012-02-03 Thread Roberto Barrios
Long time ago I built a Jupiter-T companion board that included the loop filter, divider and phase detector for the James Miller GPSDO. It also includes a PIC that monitors the NMEA strings and displays different status data via LEDs, and outputs data via RS232.

Re: [time-nuts] Building a GPSDO trouble using Jupiter-T

2012-02-03 Thread Azelio Boriani
I have implemented a digital lock detector in my CPLD timing the phase detector itself. It was years ago... let me find the VHDL code so that can give any idea how to implement it for a microprocessor. On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Roberto Barrios rbarri...@msn.com wrote: Long time ago I

Re: [time-nuts] HP5334B with 10544 OCXO

2012-02-03 Thread Roy Phillips
Randall Thank you for your info. - I have now had time to check my manual and there is a section that deals with a customer installed OCXO. I intend doing the simple mod. today. Some months ago I obtained a 5328A for my collection of HP counters, and I was very surprised at its quick and

Re: [time-nuts] HP5334B with 10544 OCXO

2012-02-03 Thread Roy Phillips
Rick Thanks again for your comments on the 10544 OCXO installation in a 5334B counter. My initial result was because of my haste to check the working of the OCXO, and obviously both oscillators were operative. The Service Manual gives clear instructions for a customer retro installation which

Re: [time-nuts] FE5680 missing PPS soln

2012-02-03 Thread Attila Kinali
On Fri, 3 Feb 2012 09:50:52 - Rob Kimberley robkimber...@btinternet.com wrote: Mine was a green LED out of the junk box, but I did use 330R in series. 1k8 seems rather large. Then i'm not surprised that your FE-5680 refused to work :-) Just calculate: 5V supply, approx 2V LED voltage - 3V

Re: [time-nuts] FE5680 missing PPS soln

2012-02-03 Thread Reeves Paul
9mA PaulG8GJA -Original Message- From: Attila Kinali [mailto:att...@kinali.ch] Sent: 03 February 2012 12:55 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FE5680 missing PPS soln On Fri, 3 Feb 2012 09:50:52 - Rob Kimberley

[time-nuts] FE5680 missing PPS soln

2012-02-03 Thread Mark Sims
Uhhh... last time I checked 3V/330 ohms is 9.1 milliamps, not 90 mA... - Just calculate: 5V supply, approx 2V LED voltage - 3V over the resistor. 3V/330R = 90mA ___ time-nuts mailing list --

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent RFTGm-II-XO and RFTGm-II-Rb pin outs andinterconnect

2012-02-03 Thread J. L. Trantham
Randy, I checked Didier's site and there is some information there but I seem to remember a more detailed description with pictures of the cables, etc. I can't remember if it applied to the RFTGm or the RFTGm-II. Perhaps they are the same. I still haven't found what I seem to remember though.

Re: [time-nuts] FE5680 missing PPS soln

2012-02-03 Thread Rob Kimberley
Thank you Paul. :-) Rob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Reeves Paul Sent: 03 February 2012 12:59 To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FE5680 missing PPS soln 9mA Paul

Re: [time-nuts] FE5680 missing PPS soln

2012-02-03 Thread Attila Kinali
On Fri, 3 Feb 2012 13:02:11 + Mark Sims hol...@hotmail.com wrote: Just calculate: 5V supply, approx 2V LED voltage - 3V over the resistor. 3V/330R = 90mA Uhhh... last time I checked 3V/330 ohms is 9.1 milliamps, not 90 mA... Uhh... last time i

Re: [time-nuts] FE5680 missing PPS soln

2012-02-03 Thread Rob Kimberley
Hi, You need to check your maths... :-) Rob K -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Attila Kinali Sent: 03 February 2012 12:55 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] FE5680 missing

Re: [time-nuts] HP5334B with 10544 OCXO

2012-02-03 Thread Roy Phillips
Thanks to Dave and Randall - - yes I did discover the change-over instructions, and hope to make the change over the week-end. Roy -Original Message- From: Dave M Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:01 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP5334B with 10544 OCXO There

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent RFTGm-II-XO and RFTGm-II-Rb pin outs andinterconnect

2012-02-03 Thread Randy D. Hunt
On 2/3/2012 5:32 AM, J. L. Trantham wrote: Randy, I checked Didier's site and there is some information there but I seem to remember a more detailed description with pictures of the cables, etc. I can't remember if it applied to the RFTGm or the RFTGm-II. Perhaps they are the same. I still

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent RFTGm-II-XO and RFTGm-II-Rb pin outsandinterconnect

2012-02-03 Thread Stanley
try : http://www.n4iqt.com/lucentgps/ and : http://www.n4iqt.com/rfgmxo/ not sure if it is any help been a while I spent any time working on them, Stanley - Original Message - From: Randy D. Hunt randy_hunt...@yahoo.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent RFTGm-II-XO and RFTGm-II-Rb pinoutsandinterconnect

2012-02-03 Thread Stanley
This is one I was thinking about some German : http://www.n4iqt.com/lucentgps/small_notes_rftg-m-xo.jpg . Still looking know that I have some more info somewhere ... Stanley - Original Message - From: Stanley timen...@n4iqt.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement

Re: [time-nuts] FE5680 missing PPS soln

2012-02-03 Thread Don Latham
I'm using a 556 dual timer, one section as an inverter to drive a lock led, and the other section as a pulse stretcher to drive a 1 pps led. Let's get on with it. Don Attila Kinali On Fri, 3 Feb 2012 09:50:52 - Rob Kimberley robkimber...@btinternet.com wrote: Mine was a green LED out of

[time-nuts] (OT) linkedin spam

2012-02-03 Thread lists
Just a FYI, you can request Linkedin to get on a do not contact list. This way every time someone gets their address book harvested, you won't get spammed. Below is the relevant part of an email I got from Linkedin. -- Per your request, the email provided has been added

Re: [time-nuts] (OT) linkedin spam

2012-02-03 Thread J. Forster
In theory only. I have been on both FaceBook and LinkedIn Do Not Contact lists, and I got another spam within the last two days. -John == Just a FYI, you can request Linkedin to get on a do not contact list. This way every time someone gets their address book harvested, you

[time-nuts] FE-5680A Manual - dated November 2002

2012-02-03 Thread Bob Smither
Thanks Rob Kimberley! The manual that Rob found (Technical Manual TM 5680-0211) is available here: http://c-c-i.com/node/166 Best regards, -- Bob Smither, PhD Circuit Concepts, Inc. =

Re: [time-nuts] 32768 Hz from 10 MHz

2012-02-03 Thread Orin Eman
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:08 AM, Dennis Ferguson dennis.c.fergu...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 Feb, 2012, at 14:15 , Orin Eman wrote: On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: It's possible to use Bresenham with two integers 10,000,000 and 32,768 but I

Re: [time-nuts] FE-.5680A trimming resolution

2012-02-03 Thread shalimr9
Rob, Can you upload it to my site? www.ko4bb.com/manuals/ THANKS IN ADVANCE, Didier KO4BB Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless thingy while I do other things... -Original Message- From: Rob Kimberley robkimber...@btinternet.com Sender: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012

[time-nuts] 5680 performance very first impressions.

2012-02-03 Thread Mark Spencer
I've seen some comments and questions regarding the performance of the 5680 Rb's. Yesterday I took delivery of two 5680's. In case anyone is interested, I'm seeing adev numbers in the 2 to 2.5 E-12 range from 80 thru 200 seconds. The unit under test has been running for approx one hour

[time-nuts] Rubidium Performance

2012-02-03 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Someone earlier today made the point that for all the talk about the FEI rubes, there hasn't been any real performance info posted. That prodded me to start an experiment I've been meaning to do for a while. I have samples of all three of the common telco Rb standards -- Efratom FRS, Datum

Re: [time-nuts] Rubidium Performance

2012-02-03 Thread Brian, WA1ZMS
Thanks John! -Brian, WA1ZMS -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of John Ackermann N8UR Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 9:41 PM To: Time-Nuts Subject: [time-nuts] Rubidium Performance Someone earlier today made the point

Re: [time-nuts] Rubidium Performance

2012-02-03 Thread John Miles
Someone earlier today made the point that for all the talk about the FEI rubes, there hasn't been any real performance info posted. That prodded me to start an experiment I've been meaning to do for a while. I have samples of all three of the common telco Rb standards -- Efratom FRS, Datum

Re: [time-nuts] Rubidium Performance

2012-02-03 Thread Mark Spencer
Once my first unit has warmed up properly I'll be curious to see how the adev compares (I can't measure phase noise.) If any one is interested I've also got some adev data from my one working temex lpfrs Rb unit. (I also have another unit that only locks once in a while.)At approx 1/3

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A 1 pps photo

2012-02-03 Thread Bob Bownes
Just for completeness sake, here is a screen capture off of my DSA-602 of the 1pps. Note that the trace starts 500ns _before_ the 1pps triggers the capture. Ah the wonders of digital sampling. http://www.fastbobs.com/pictures/1pps.jpg Also as a pdf http://www.fastbobs.com/pictures/1pps.pdf

Re: [time-nuts] Rubidium Performance: DDS noise effect on 10 MHz

2012-02-03 Thread beale
From: John Miles jmi...@pop.net So far, the FE-5680A is doing well in the ADEV department, but its AD9832 DDS chip adds some substantial noise and spurs to the 10 MHz output. [...] The overall SSB C/N ratio I'm seeing between 1 Hz - 100 kHz is pretty much in line with Analog Devices'

Re: [time-nuts] 32768 Hz from 10 MHz

2012-02-03 Thread Hal Murray
t...@leapsecond.com said: I'm curious how a 10 MHz-driven high-end DDS would generate 32 kHz with the lowest possible jitter? What do you mean by high-end DDS? A chip from Analog Devices or one from Xilinx? :) If you use a classic DDS chip with a binary adder and ROM, it will have low