Re: [time-nuts] WWVB antennas

2014-02-22 Thread Alan Melia
Claims on antenna efficiency at these frequencies are fairly meaningless (as always) in that a normal antenna efficiency would be less than 1% !! Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: JIM FARLEY jimfar...@att.net To: t...@patoka.org; Discussion of precise time and frequency

Re: [time-nuts] frequency comparator reading question

2014-02-27 Thread Alan Melia
These units multiply the frequency delta and the phase change quoted is probably 10^n times the actual difference. The output is f + n*delta(f) I have but do not use a Montronix 100-7 (before the Fluke purchase) Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: Bill Hawkins b...@iaxs.net To:

Re: [time-nuts] Phase noise and geomagnetism

2014-04-28 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Antonio you must remember the static geomagnetic field is around 50,000nT and the biggest Solar induced events are around 500nT so the effect might be difficut to detect as events of this size are not very common. More common events are in the 100 to 200nT range. Alan G3NYK -

Re: [time-nuts] Diodes as temperature sensors

2014-07-21 Thread ALAN MELIA
Simple temperature sensors use the static diode characteristic, but a more accurate method is to use the slope of the characteristic, this is independent of individual diode parameters, though requires a little it more electronics to display. There are many papers on this back in the 1960/70s.

Re: [time-nuts] temperature sensor

2014-07-21 Thread Alan Melia
er not boiling watersteam. Water's boiling point is affected by the dissolved gasses and other contaminants. Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: Bill Dailey docdai...@gmail.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Monday, July 21,

Re: [time-nuts] temperature sensor

2014-07-21 Thread Alan Melia
/2012Issues.html http://www.prc68.com/I/DietNutrition.html Alan Melia wrote: er not boiling watersteam. Water's boiling point is affected by the dissolved gasses and other contaminants. Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: Bill Dailey docdai...@gmail.com To: Discussion of precise time

Re: [time-nuts] fast switching quiet synthesizer

2014-10-07 Thread Alan Melia
Jim I am not sure if this will meet your requirement for hygene but google Trinity Power Inc (Bob Yarbrough) he has a unit that was featured in EDN some time around a year ago. I doesnt switch fast enough at present but that could be altered. the problem might be that I think it is a PLL

Re: [time-nuts] fast switching quiet synthesizer

2014-10-07 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Don, Jim, that is the one I was refering to, It has a VCO as the source (all part of the AD4351) but I think your description of the unit is more accurate that mine. Contact him directly he is keen to contact new areas and hobbyists. There are two units one is a source with 4 output levels,

Re: [time-nuts] fast switching quiet synthesizer

2014-10-07 Thread Alan Melia
Jim, Bob Yarbrough's built units do 50 to 4400MHz, +10dBm and input for external 10MHz ref signals, though has an internal 10MHz TCXO. It sounds worth a try if it can be programmed to step fast enough, min step size is 1kHz (from memory). Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: Jim

Re: [time-nuts] Price of LTE Lite GPSDO vs Trimble Thunderbolt.

2014-10-18 Thread Alan Melia
Said I read through the description carefully .I suggest you request a refund from eBay for their use of incompetant computer translation which fails to recognise English technical words and phases, so blocking your paid for posting. The trigger can only be due to a stupid word selection in

Re: [time-nuts] BBC TV program Click has material about GPS jammingand e Loran

2014-11-01 Thread Alan Melia
The politics of this system are a bit dubious as are the claims on accuracy and freedon from jamming. But it does give us another off-air frequency standard. Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk To: Discussion

Re: [time-nuts] Digital temperature compensation

2014-11-01 Thread Alan Melia
Mmmm yes you can see the equation evaluation starting to rise in your Warmer plot, as Mark says, which will make a nonsense of the formula if your summer temps get above 28. Why not a table and then interpolate between the table data points?. You might have more points where the changes are

Re: [time-nuts] Quad Driven Mixer 5 to 10 MHz Doubler Atricle

2014-11-12 Thread Alan Melia
As a subscriber to QEX I saw this article but thought that the bi-phase rectifier was a lot easier and has be well characterised by the time-nuts experts. Now it has shown up here I would be interested to hear from those experimenting how badly the NE602 performs compared with a passive DBM

Re: [time-nuts] Division Circuit

2014-11-14 Thread Alan Melia
Isn't the 10i/p gate to do the divide by N+1?? not just to avoid an all zeros switch on which does not need all 10 stages fed back if all you want is an N stage ring counter?? Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: Tim Shoppa tsho...@gmail.com To: Said Jackson saidj...@aol.com;

Re: [time-nuts] 10811

2014-11-18 Thread Alan Melia
Yes below about 4v is the only place where you get the real Zener effect, as you go above 5v it becomes Avalanche Breakdown. The trick is zener effect has a negative tempco and avalanche a positive one (I thinkthey are opposite senses anyway :-)) ) the result is a regulator diode

Re: [time-nuts] 57600 baud rate with Basic???

2012-10-09 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Corby I havent checked Liberty Basic but I believe it does support 57.6kBd.. I have definitely used this speed on PowerBasic for Windows which is a latter day upgrade of Borland stable, I believe, but very is very different to GWBasic or QBasic (which is also limited to 9600Bd) and is much

Re: [time-nuts] 57600 baud rate with Basic???

2012-10-09 Thread Alan Melia
Dinosaurs ruled the world for millions of years, and morphed into creatures that ruled the air until very recently .bit longer than dotcomms ...They were very successfull :-)) Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: shali...@gmail.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency

Re: [time-nuts] HP 10811 Tuning Diode

2012-10-19 Thread Alan Melia
Rick, Adrian, I think there are a number of possibly material related areas that could cause a varicap to go noisy but I have no experience of them First a reversed biased diode makes quite a good particle detector :-)) and remanent radioactive atoms in say the glass could cause localised

Re: [time-nuts] Is it sensible to update every few seconds from NTPserver?

2012-11-07 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Paul think synchronous data transmission where you cant detect enough signal to synchronise reliably via the bit edges received. Initially developed for LF (136kHz) where the ERP of amateur antennas is very low. Google Joe Taylor but not for his Nobel prize, who's original interest was

Re: [time-nuts] Best phase detector / mixer for 100MHz?

2012-11-23 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Anders, isn't this format exactly what is inside the high level mixers (spec'e +17dBm) from Minicircuits? Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: Anders Time anderst...@gmail.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 3:42 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Best phase detector /

Re: [time-nuts] Best phase detector / mixer for 100MHz?

2012-11-23 Thread Alan Melia
phase detector / mixer for 100MHz? NIST have shown (at least at 10MHz) that the high level mixers they tested are noisier than the ZRPD1. Bruce Alan Melia wrote: Hi Anders, isn't this format exactly what is inside the high level mixers (spec'e +17dBm) from Minicircuits? Alan G3NYK

Re: [time-nuts] C-MAC hookup

2012-11-24 Thread Alan Melia
Joe do you have a model number I have a C-Mac data book for this company and they have a wide variety of packages Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: Joseph Gray jg...@zianet.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Saturday, November

Re: [time-nuts] 12.8 MHz OCXO

2012-11-24 Thread Alan Melia
Joe the reason why its not so uncommon may not be obvious in the US :-)) 12.8MHz is used as a reference for commercial and amateur PLLs in Europe where the common channel spacing is 12.5kHz (/1024) or 6.25kHz (/2048). This may mean that 12.8MHz oscillators may be more easily found in Europe ??

Re: [time-nuts] Cinox source

2012-12-09 Thread Alan Melia
Have you tried Princeton Applied Research who seem to own the EGG rights now?? Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: johnk0...@juno.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 8:14 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Cinox source I realize this is pretty mundane for such an

Re: [time-nuts] noisy varactor diodes

2012-12-20 Thread Alan Melia
The HP sceme in the patent refers to an array of series and parallel diodes to reduce noise. Just paralleling them does not reduce the noise! Might this not depend what the type of noise was ?? JRC use this technique in the RF stage of their receivers but I am wondering if this is only valid

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 101, Issue 152

2012-12-22 Thread Alan Melia
Volker.look at the subject line, the posting is in your hands, you dont need to just use the reply button, as somone did with a digest which forked the thread.. This means all the posing under Digest are hidden from view and searching. You can edit the subject line but this does not

Re: [time-nuts] Questions about TAC frontend, and some measurements

2012-12-22 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Fabio taking BJTs deep into saturation stores a lot of charge in the collector base capacitance. this must br discharged before a state change can occur. LSTTL gets round this and gets the speed at lower currents by clamping the collector to only just in saturation with a schottky diode

Re: [time-nuts] YIG oscillators

2013-01-04 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Daniel, I cant remember the reference the web site might help but there have been at least a couple of articles on YIG modules in VHF Comms magazine Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: Daniel Mendes dmend...@gmail.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement

Re: [time-nuts] eLoran for GPS backup

2013-01-09 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Chuck, It never went off!! The French are spear-heading this. An experimental eLoran station was run from Rugby (GBR site) before it finally closed then the gear was relocated to be run by VT Communications, now Babcock I believe, based on Anthorn (south bank of the Solway Firth). This uses

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread Alan Melia
I dont have the reference in front of me but it might just be worth checking the article archive for the Elektor magazine.I have a vague feeing I might have seen something there. Many of their past projects have used the LPT as a programmable port. There should be an article index on their

Re: [time-nuts] PTS 3200 remote programming

2013-03-01 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Iban do you have a manual? they are available. From memory because its a while since I worked on my Wavetek- Rockland unit I believe the remote programming is in parallel with the front panel switches. The reason for raising this is that there may be a problem on the back of the panel

Re: [time-nuts] PTS 3200 remote programming

2013-03-02 Thread Alan Melia
unit the shares latch the 100mhz with the 10mhz. The 1ghz latch is shared by the 1hz decade. Best regards 73! Iban eb3frn On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Alan Melia alan.me...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi Iban do you have a manual? they are available. From memory because its a while since I worked

Re: [time-nuts] Don't use cheap cables -- a cautionary tale

2013-03-03 Thread Alan Melia
Some of the older synchronised signal generators (2-box systems) e.g Marconi, used TNC connectors with solid coax where signal leakage was likely to be a problem. Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: Volker Esper ail...@t-online.de To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013

Re: [time-nuts] Releasing sources (was Re: Brooks Shera)

2013-03-28 Thread Alan Melia
Hi John Please dont take it down! remember there are more of us who quietly appreciate sites like yours. I once suggested to a query the answer was in the help file and background by googling or using wikipedia, and was told it was a lot easier and quicker to play dumb and ask.!! I also suggest

[time-nuts] GPS antenna??

2013-04-08 Thread Alan Melia
Hi all an interesting problem you may have encountered, I want to use a GPS frequency standard inside a building with no opening windows (opening windows are known as air conditioning in the UK :-)) ) This is part of a two day amateur microwave conference so we should have the expertise. I

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna??

2013-04-08 Thread Alan Melia
...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 1:00 PM To: time-nuts measurement Subject: [time-nuts] GPS antenna?? Hi all an interesting problem you may have encountered, I want to use a GPS frequency standard inside a building with no opening

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna??

2013-04-08 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Tom yes I have produced some similar plots I think they get cold feet about 70deg N. I'm not sure of the actual value it is a long time since I played with that last. Alan - Original Message - From: Tom Van Baak t...@leapsecond.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna??

2013-04-08 Thread Alan Melia
Hi David yes its ferro-concrete which makes quite a good screen (a lot worse than domestic brick) but the windows are not coated I think. (BT Labs at Martlesham) Thanks all for some thought stimulating ideas .GPSDO outside might not be too easy1U rack case mains poweredno power

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna??

2013-04-08 Thread Alan Melia
. It's easy to test by looking at your indoor SV count and reception levels. With patch antennae you don't have to worry about RHCP issues, right? /tvb - Original Message - From: Alan Melia alan.me...@btinternet.com To: time-nuts measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013

Re: [time-nuts] Low-pass Filter for 5 and 10 MHz

2013-04-11 Thread Alan Melia
Maybe a silly question but isnt the phase response of the filter important in this application ?? notches have fairly vicious phase shifts. Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: Luciano Paramithiotti timeok...@gmail.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 5:42 PM

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera ASM release

2013-04-12 Thread Alan Melia
Bert is there any way we can add our names to some expression of thanks to his widow Karen and her helpers for their work and maybe leave a remembrance of his worldwide friends for his family? Thanks for your efforts Best wishes Alan Melia (G3NYK) UK - Original Message - From

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera ASM release

2013-04-15 Thread Alan Melia
disapointed but not unhappy. I certainly appreciate the help and expertise the Group provides..and it is nice to be able to say so, and salute the work Brooks did. Thanks and Best Wishes Alan Melia (G3NYK) - Original Message - From: ewkeh...@aol.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Monday

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera ASM release

2013-04-15 Thread Alan Melia
of remembrance of his worldwide friends, for his family? Even if it is just a me too replying to this message. Alan Melia (G3NYK) Ipswich, UK ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: [time-nuts] Italian Time Station on 10 MHz ?

2013-04-28 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Marco maybe you should run a web site with daily measurements and shame them into doing it properly ( your traceable to NIST should raise some hackles !!) I took me four months to get a short term wander on 198kHz looked at a few years ago. I was cured when the synth finally failed

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Adjustment Question

2013-05-08 Thread Alan Melia
I use this method too, but I also find it little use trying to get the internal reference down to the last squeak in 10^11 on this kind of kit. It will not hold the setting for vey long and it takes ages to get the adjustment spot on. I get as close as I can easily.then allow the unknown

Re: [time-nuts] Ground loops in measurements?

2013-05-20 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Bob whats the problem at low freqs ?? I thought leakage was a function of the size of the holesv the wavelengthor are we into braid skin effect below 100kHz?? so as not to drag this OT a reference will suffice in answer. Best Wishes Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: Bob

Re: [time-nuts] synchronizing a large number of weakly coupled oscillators

2010-05-12 Thread Alan Melia
Well I guess no because accuracy is the deviation from a known standard (I think) Stability repeatability might be better but you need to consider what the variables might be. Variations in thickness (basically frequency), cut angle (temp coeficient and maybe others), crystal purity (aging, ESR

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 70, Issue 31

2010-05-12 Thread Alan Melia
Is it possible that mechanical (pendulum) clocks could couple not due to energy transfer between the clocks but external mechanical events such as seismic events of a very low level ?? or even gravitational or lunar gravitational effects.?? Maybe the same for water clocks ?? Alan G3NYK -

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 70, Issue 31

2010-05-13 Thread Alan Melia
/pdf/news/481.pdf http://www.bhi.co.uk/hj/Coupled%20Pendulums%20Quadrature%20and%20Clocks%20by%20John%20Haine.pdf http://www.ralph-abraham.org/articles/MS%2344.Resonance/ms44.pdf Stanley - Original Message From: Alan Melia alan.me...@btinternet.com To: Discussion of precise time

Re: [time-nuts] Lucked out

2010-05-21 Thread Alan Melia
The ones they cant get to work are the most fun...:-)) Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: Bruce Lane kyr...@bluefeathertech.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 11:31 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Lucked out Fellow time-tickers, I lucked out on that NTS100i. No, it

Re: [time-nuts] Apelco ...was Loran-C POSAID2 Software

2010-07-09 Thread Alan Melia
Hi John I have a manual dated 1989 for a later version Apelco ( DXL 6300) The manual covers operation nicely, but the data for the Lessay chain is incorrect. I can enter the GRI manually and the receiver locks nicely. I have disassembled the eprom but cannot recognise the data areas to patch the

Re: [time-nuts] Remove Pictic boards from envelopes

2010-08-10 Thread Alan Melia
I have not been involved in this project but have had pcbs from eastern sources supplied to RoHS. Some have come in with bare copper pads. I wonder if the reason for this may be that their standard process was not tinning, but it was a a solder-flow stage, and they still have lead-tin solder

Re: [time-nuts] Remove Pictic boards from envelopes

2010-08-10 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Jim ...being ironic...see the smiley Alan - Original Message - From: jimlux jim...@earthlink.net To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:55 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Remove Pictic boards from envelopes Alan

Re: [time-nuts] Simulation

2010-08-14 Thread Alan Melia
Surely all this is a case of an engineer being able to read..specifications :-)) Manufactures specify to sell parts, most of the important parameter are minimum values, and the range is as wide as it can be. If you want a parameter bracketed then you must specify that when buying and pay the

Re: [time-nuts] Simulation

2010-08-15 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Bob yes that was a point raised by Prof Nat Sokal after I published some data, or rather he pointed out it happened in RF amps. I guess if you take an used PA transistor out of service and measure it you might find the base emitter junction very leaky, but does few mA of leakage matter so much

[time-nuts] GPS pcb IDs??

2010-08-18 Thread Alan Melia
Hi I have just acquired a couple of GPS receiver pcbs, ex Telcoms equipment. I know a lot of htese poards were discussed so time ago on the group. Does anyone recognise what they are and could point me at some intrormations please. I am afraid the flash has washed the the pics out a bit but

Re: [time-nuts] GPS pcb IDs??

2010-08-19 Thread Alan Melia
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless thingy while I do other things... -Original Message- From: Alan Melia alan.me...@btinternet.com Sender: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 00:07:20 To: Time-Nuts measurementtime-nuts@febo.com Reply-To: Discussion

Re: [time-nuts] GPS pcb IDs??

2010-08-19 Thread Alan Melia
://trl.trimble.com/docushare/dsweb/Get/Document-183796/13441+Resolution+FA2.pdf http://www.dpie.com/manuals/gps/trimble/ResolutionT_072408.pdf Stanley From: Alan Melia alan.me...@btinternet.com To: Time-Nuts measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wed, August 18, 2010 6:07

Re: [time-nuts] GPS pcb IDs??

2010-08-19 Thread Alan Melia
in advance, Didier KO4BB Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless thingy while I do other things... -Original Message- From: Alan Melia alan.me...@btinternet.com Sender: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 00:07:20 To: Time-Nuts measurementtime-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] GPS pcb IDs??

2010-08-20 Thread Alan Melia
] On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: Thursday, 19. August 2010 12:44 To: did...@cox.net; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS pcb IDs?? Hi Didier, the Trimble is a Resolution T (3.3v)user manual at the URL quoted by Stanley (Thanks again Stanley

Re: [time-nuts] GPS pcb IDs??

2010-08-20 Thread Alan Melia
...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Alan Melia Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 6:37 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS pcb IDs?? Thanks Christian, I have that doc but although I think it is probably relevant the outline

Re: [time-nuts] Small quantity custom crystals

2010-09-30 Thread Alan Melia
Mark to my inexpert eye that doesnt look like a very good overtone oscillator but I appreciate that it is slimmed down to keep the weight and size down, I can see why it is touchy. There is nothing to make the oscillator degenerate at the crystal fundamental. In fact it looks like a Pierce with a

Re: [time-nuts] Small quantity custom crystals

2010-10-01 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Mark looking at the M15m article where the design seems to stem from suggests that the oscillator is NOT opertaing on 150 or 200 MHz but in fact 40 to 50 Mhz with a cheap crystal and the LC collector circuit is selecting the the 3rd or 5th harmonic (not overtone a common mis-apprehension) The

Re: [time-nuts] HP/Dymek DY-5842

2010-10-02 Thread Alan Melia
Dick did you ever try an unscreened loop ?? they should be just as good if not better at 60kHz. Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: Dick Moore rich...@hughes.net To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP/Dymek DY-5842 I used to have

Re: [time-nuts] 60kHz Loop antenna

2010-10-03 Thread Alan Melia
-busters. This was before I built a GPSDO or two and then got a TBolt. The shielded loop has just been sitting for years. Dick On Oct 2, 2010, at 3:42 PM, time-nuts-requ...@febo.com wrote: Message: 5 Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2010 23:40:52 +0100 From: Alan Melia alan.me...@btinternet.com

Re: [time-nuts] 60kHz Loop antenna

2010-10-03 Thread Alan Melia
The loop will be tuned (!) but hopefully to a freqency much above 60kHz by the inter-turn and turn to screen capacitance. Also hopefully this will be a low Q resonance and the phase frequency response at 60kHz should then be stable with ambient conditions. Interestingly a lot of the modern LF and

Re: [time-nuts] Radio based time stations

2010-10-05 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Poul-HenningOh yes we did ! but the closed a long time ago. MSF was on 2.5, 5 and 10 Mc/s:-)) (It only hertz when I laugh) OMA similar HBG there may have been others. I seem to remember the HF stations took it in turns to transmit Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From:

Re: [time-nuts] 60 KHz Receiver

2010-10-07 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Magnus its was a pity they didn't manage to communicate with some of my office collegues so as to to confirm the hand of the polarisation they were using though :-)) Goodhilly changed the feed for the other polarisation on the day of the first test, and it was a bit of a TV disaster. Lanion had

Re: [time-nuts] RAPCO 1804 GPS Frequency Standard

2010-10-11 Thread Alan Melia
It'll be your fault !! :-)) I was wondering about these but didnt know what they were like.I have a space in the rack.it 'ud better be good!! Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: gandal...@aol.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 10:13 PM Subject:

Re: [time-nuts] Question about SoundCard stability?

2010-10-15 Thread Alan Melia
Hi I do not follow al the techniques in detail but a lot of work has been done on soundcard sampling rates in the low frequency amateur radio groups where GPS locking is used to extract very weak signals from the noise in very narrow band widths. It has been found that some of the supposed

Re: [time-nuts] Does TIME-NUTS LIST-SERV allow CLASSIFIED For-Sale private advertisment?

2010-10-19 Thread Alan Melia
You must also bear in mind that this a world-wide list. personally I would not be interested in sales of test equipment within the US, and I would not look here for equipment I might like to own. (Others in the Europe might) However, I would not object to a note that some gear is avilable and a

Re: [time-nuts] New leap second

2008-07-04 Thread Alan Melia
On the 4th July it (the Sun) was actually at its furtherst point from earth so we were getting less radiation .did your burghers take longer to cook ?? :-)) Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: Chuck Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement

Re: [time-nuts] 74ac112 and 74ac164 sources and 200 Ohm resistors for frequency divider board?

2008-07-12 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Dave Rapid Electronics in Colchester do SMBs the eaiest way to get 200 ohms might be 2 by 100ohm in series..though it wont fit a ready made 1206 size pcb :-(( www.rapidelectronics.co.uk or www.rapidonline.com is one they quote now I think both work. I dont think you will get 74ACs there

Re: [time-nuts] Hameg HM8125 Time/frequency Standard

2008-07-22 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Ian I dont know whether it works for that unit, but try the Hameg site. http://www.hameg.com/66.0.html There are almost complete manuals for all the units (well certainly the scopes!) You may find that there are no schematics in the English versionsdownload the German versions (which you

Re: [time-nuts] Hameg HM8125 Time/frequency Standard

2008-07-22 Thread Alan Melia
a while back. Tried your tip and looked at the German version, but no luck either. Thanks for the suggestion though. Cheers, Ian. - Original Message - From: Alan Melia [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 22

[time-nuts] GPS shielding by power lines?

2008-08-09 Thread Alan Melia
Hi all, in the process of setting up a GPS time standard for a Radio Astronomy facility (amateur) we installed a GPS receiver in a small cabin with a translucent roof, thinking that would not impede the GPS signal. After a lot of head scratching as to why we were not getting the performane we got

Re: [time-nuts] GPS shielding by power lines?

2008-08-10 Thread Alan Melia
Message - From: David Ackrill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 8:30 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS shielding by power lines? Alan Melia wrote: Hi all, in the process of setting up a GPS time standard

Re: [time-nuts] GPS shielding by power lines?

2008-08-10 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Tom Brilliant I hadnt thought of the fields actually affecting the operation of the electronics! that is certainly something that might be interesting to check. I note there lines have three phase feeds but no neutral wire so they must use ground as the return path to any unbalance currents.(?)

Re: [time-nuts] GPS shielding by power lines?

2008-08-10 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Didier, thanks for that idea, yes they were all pucks all Garmin two intended for marine use and one was a old Garmin GPSIIplus with a mag puck. I have a Trimble Palisade that I have not got round to working on yet, but I understand that there are problems putting this version into NMEA

Re: [time-nuts] GPS shielding by power lines?

2008-08-11 Thread Alan Melia
Hi David yes indeed and the qualify of the fix imporves as we move away at right angles to the linedespite some trees and a tall hedge on one side. Dramatic and quite repeatable. Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: David McGaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of precise time and

Re: [time-nuts] Austron 1250B

2008-08-30 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Corby, my 1250a has an EFC connection on the rear panel (a bnc connector) I have some circuitry but not sure at present what suffix letter it refers to My 1250as have a 5MHz OCXO. Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: corby d dawson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent:

Re: [time-nuts] Austron 1250B

2008-08-30 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Corby and Nigel. I think I have a data sheet for the 1150 oscillator somewhere as well. I have an orphan 1MHz unit. The a definitely has the EFC on the rear and I recollect seeing a spec for the swing per volt. I seen to think it is quite fine and would be useful for GPS steering. Alan G3NYK

Re: [time-nuts] Do any regulations or laws require tim e to be accurate within 'x' seconds?

2008-11-03 Thread Alan Melia
- Original Message - From: Gretchen Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 5:03 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Do any regulations or laws require time to be accurate within 'x' seconds? Greetings,

Re: [time-nuts] Checking accuracy of Rubidium standards

2008-11-08 Thread Alan Melia
This is an interesting thread again.it may be similar to ones that have been discussed, but one or two furthur questions occur to me. I have a Montronics sytem that does comparisons by the multiply and mix process, and I find (also common to more modern Kethly systems) that the limitation is

Re: [time-nuts] Why/when did cell towers switch to 15 MHz?

2008-11-16 Thread Alan Melia
Some of the ex Telcom units I have seen have 10MHz Rb or OCXO (Datum or Lucent) and a 10 to 15MHz converter in a milled cover externallysome frequencies are more easily generated from 15MHz. Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of precise time and

Re: [time-nuts] PC run FFT

2008-12-20 Thread Alan Melia
Neville there is a Fourier routine built in I have used it for time sequence analysis. It is not loaded by default. You may have to check the dropdown menus to load it in (at least that was what I needed to do, but I am mean and running an old Op-system :-)) ) Cheers de Alan G3NYK - Original

Re: [time-nuts] Solstice question, about 5000 years ago

2008-12-21 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Bill About 100 millenia of accumulated experience with probably the last 2 or three actually farming very successfully where you need to know about seasons. The Celts were a very civilised people (but their history was written by their conquorers!) and great traders even in those days. Flints

[time-nuts] Astro-paleology or paleo-astronomy

2009-01-30 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Magnus, I am sure I have at least one astro planetarium program somewhere (it doesnt get much use here) that will allow you to set the clock to 5000BC not GPS disciplined though :-)) I will have to check the detail. One was written by a good friend now deceased. Alan G3NYK

Re: [time-nuts] Lady Heather Update

2009-01-31 Thread Alan Melia
Hi all, I am running an AMD Duron 700MHz running W98SE when run the program opens a DOS window but crashes the video monitor until the program is stopped with the escape key. So some of the problems may be with the monitor parameters which may not support the high res that a lot will be running

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna installation problem

2009-03-01 Thread Alan Melia
I am sure it is NOT a good idea to hand heavy cable like RG-8 from the N-type connector. What will hapen is that the cable will walk out of the connector and the centre pin will withdraw from the socket. This happens whilst the outer jacket stretches so there is no indiction there is a physical

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna installation problem

2009-03-02 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Hal, No, not as far as I know, and it is only intended to happen for a short (stub mast) distancce. The method I would use is to cable cleat two or three pieces of cord (use two or three cleats in series over 2 or 3 inches of jacket) on the jacket/sheath before dropping the cable down the tube.

Re: [time-nuts] delete

2009-03-07 Thread Alan Melia
Helmut maybe you are not seeing it but it is the 2nd line attached below. Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: helmut.im...@t-online.de To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 4:31 PM Subject: [time-nuts] delete Please delete me from the email distribution list. Thanks!

Re: [time-nuts] Loran-C French Clocks

2009-03-17 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Rob you might be able to get the official line from Peter Whibberly at Teddington. Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: Rob Kimberley r...@timing-consultants.com To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:58 PM

Re: [time-nuts] Rubidium is good for you...

2009-04-17 Thread Alan Melia
I wonder what the FDA (Frequency Determining Association ??) has to say about that :-)) Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 11:15 AM

Re: [time-nuts] Rubidium is good for you...

2009-04-17 Thread Alan Melia
What radioactive decay ?? There are isotopes of most of these naturally occuring alkaline elements but most are very stable.you dont want the gas in your Rb lamp transmuting away !! There may even be nutritional benefits in snake oil :-)) Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: Dave

Re: [time-nuts] Solartron 7081 ROMs

2009-04-29 Thread Alan Melia
Or find the right prommer Peter :-)) Rom read correctly and image returned to David with the right checksum. Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: Peter Vince pvi...@theiet.org To: bro...@pacific.net; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent:

[time-nuts] Cathodeon TCXOs??

2009-05-24 Thread Alan Melia
Hi I wonder if anyone still has a datasheet/catalogue of Cathodeon products. This firm made crystals and oscillators and filters in the 1980 and 90s in Cambridge, England. (It is only 50 miles up the raod but I have not been able to find anyone who still has any knowledge of the products.) The

Re: [time-nuts] Cathodeon TCXOs??

2009-05-24 Thread Alan Melia
of Philips. I understand that nothing has survived of the old Pye Group, so it may be difficult to obtain any new data. Roy - Original Message - From: Alan Melia alan.me...@btinternet.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 8:12 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Cathodeon TCXOs

Re: [time-nuts] Cathodeon TCXOs??

2009-05-26 Thread Alan Melia
' of storage space by my employer - everything is on the internet); I'll check up on it tonight. Paul G8GJA -Original Message- From: Alan Melia [mailto:alan.me...@btinternet.com] Sent: 24 May 2009 20:12 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Cathodeon TCXOs?? Hi I wonder

Re: [time-nuts] Sound Cards for locking to GPSDO 10 MHz references

2009-06-01 Thread Alan Melia
I have seen it talked about (around the LF fraternity, but generally they are stable enough there and just need calibation) a lot but not accomplished yet. How about injection locking the on board oscmaybe gating the feedback with the referencenote I havent tried this? Another technique I

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