Re: [time-nuts] 5370 processor boards available

2014-02-27 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 27 February 2014 08:26, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: The advantage of something like the BBB is that it runs Linux so you have a nice environment in which to run your code. The disadvantage of Linux is that it's complicated and you have things like file systems that can get

Re: [time-nuts] 5370 processor boards available

2014-02-27 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 27 Feb 2014 16:55, cheater00 . cheate...@gmail.com wrote: If having a battery in the device makes some of you queasy, you could always put it outside, on the back. But I seriously believe there are ways to make battery backup which will not leak. Two batteries, each with a diode and bought

Re: [time-nuts] 5370 processor boards available

2014-02-27 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 27 February 2014 17:31, Chuck Harris cfhar...@erols.com wrote: Backup batteries don't make me queasy. The easiest, cheapest backup battery would be a small 6V 3AH sealed lead acid battery. It is trivial to make a good float charger using a 3 terminal regulator and a diode, and they do

Re: [time-nuts] Water on Enceladus - What does this imply about NASA'a ability to measure frequency?

2014-04-04 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 4 Apr 2014 08:55, Tom Knox act...@hotmail.com wrote: 90 microns is approx a freq res of about 1 x 3.66 -12 Thomas Knox Since the Doppler shift is prortional to the frequency, I can't see how one can determine the absolute frequency. But given light travels at 3e8 m/s and they can

Re: [time-nuts] new GPSDO kit

2014-04-04 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 4 Apr 2014 23:39, saidj...@aol.com wrote: Hello everyone, sorry for the plug, but we just announced a new $568 complete GPSDO reference kit. Given the low power consumption I assume that this doesn't use an oven. That means if it does lose GPS lock, the frequency is going to drift much

Re: [time-nuts] PRS10 rubidium on eBay

2014-05-10 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 10 May 2014 11:01, Tom Van Baak t...@leapsecond.com wrote: Hi Bill, eBay has a search bar. If you type PRS10 Rubidium it will locate Corby's item and possibly other similar items. I rarely use eBay's search tool now, since I found http://www.geo-ship.com/ as it is much better at

Re: [time-nuts] 2014 Million £ Longitude Prize

2014-05-21 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 20 May 2014 21:19, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: Boy this is really off target I guess. To get it back on topic, if one of the options was going to be time related, what would it be? Dave ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To

Re: [time-nuts] New tide gauge uses GPS signals to measure sea level change

2014-05-30 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 28 May 2014 14:06, Tom Holmes thol...@woh.rr.com wrote: Which begs the question: just where the heck, exactly, is the center of the Earth given that it is in the 'middle' of a molten and dynamic core. I always thought that the centre was molten. There was something on the TV in the UK a

Re: [time-nuts] Boeing 787 GPS reception trouble

2014-06-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 2 Jun 2014 10:03, Tom Van Baak t...@leapsecond.com wrote: Now I have never had a problem with reception in the terminal, walkway, or even while seated inside a plane. I figured the aluminum frame of the plane was thin enough that photons at cell, GPS, and gamma frequencies easily pass through

Re: [time-nuts] VNA design

2014-06-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 2 Jun 2014 15:50, Attila Kinali att...@kinali.ch wrote: I recently got introduced into the usefullness of a VNA. But these things are horribly expensive for home use, even if bought from ebay (before you say anything, remember i live in europe, where every boat anchor hast to travel a long

Re: [time-nuts] VNA design

2014-06-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 2 Jun 2014 17:33, Ed Palmer ed_pal...@sasktel.net wrote: There's a DIY project to build a spectrum analyzer at http://scottyspectrumanalyzer.com . Since it's modular, one version of the project is to add a couple of modules that change it into a network analyzer. But I think a VNA is an

Re: [time-nuts] VNA design

2014-06-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 2 Jun 2014 18:14, Thomas S. Knutsen la3...@gmail.com wrote: The design of an VNA is an interesting thing. It requires quite high focus on good RF practices and screening. In the range 0-3GHz there is no low cost devices avaible, not counting the copper mountain tech boxes (

Re: [time-nuts] VNA design

2014-06-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 2 Jun 2014 19:07, Alexander Pummer alex...@ieee.org wrote: I do not wanted to discourage any body, but building the hardware of a network analyzer is not a simple task, and requires substantial instrumentation, software could solve hardware problems to certain limit only 73 KJ6UHN VERY

Re: [time-nuts] VNA design

2014-06-03 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 3 June 2014 16:54, Scott McGrath scmcgr...@gmail.com wrote: Where are the software options for the 8753 coming from. Agilent will not even talk about a VNA that's older than the PNA series This has been discussed on the HP/Agilent mailing list. Basically a couple of people that work at

Re: [time-nuts] VNA design

2014-06-03 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 3 June 2014 19:22, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: Great comment by Dave on the fact that someone will give out some of the old options. Now I have to figure out what on earth that might actually mean. Regards Paul WB8TSL There are a few options for those VNAs. These are basically

[time-nuts] National Standards labs worldwide - specifically Australia

2014-06-29 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
) Who in Australia would be best at measuring the reflection coefficient of a 50 Ohm termination? -- Dr. David Kirkby G8WRB http://www.vnacalibration.co.uk/ Economical accurate VNA calibration kits. Coefficients available for HP, Agilent, Anritsu, Rohde Schwarz and VNWA network analyzers

Re: [time-nuts] National Standards labs worldwide - specifically Australia

2014-07-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 2 Jul 2014 07:55, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: The authoritative source is BIPM: http://www.bipm.org/en/practical_info/useful_links/nmi.html Thank you. That is a useful resource to know of. which points to: http://www.measurement.gov.au/Pages/default.aspx Thanks,

Re: [time-nuts] HP8720C manuals?

2012-10-17 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 10/18/12 12:33 AM, Jim Lux wrote: On 10/17/12 3:35 PM, David Kirkby wrote: On 17 October 2012 20:35, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: Someone found the manual I needed (see the other posts).. it was on that general website but not linked from anywhere... I guess you should report

Re: [time-nuts] Logging the grid frequency....

2013-02-24 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
they are a threat to national security! Dave -- Dr. David Kirkby Ph.D C.Eng MIET ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Signal Hound

2013-04-15 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
advantages in small, compact units with a warranty, but I'd certainly want to consider buying used professional equipment. -- Dr. David Kirkby Ph.D C.Eng MIET ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi

Re: [time-nuts] Primary Standards...

2010-02-23 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
David C. Partridge wrote: No they cannot be - yet. At the point where (e.g.) the second is re-defined in terms of the aluminium quantum clock, then the aluminium quantum clocks are then by definition the primary standards of time, and all the Cs clocks are now secondary standards as the second

Re: [time-nuts] Primary Standards...

2010-02-23 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Tom Holmes, N8ZM wrote: My recollection of the definition of an Ampere is 6.02 x 10^23 electrons per second (Avogadro's Number, I believe) passing a point in a conductor. To this day, I wonder how they managed to count all those electrons. But it does suggest that the silver deposit approach

Re: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery

2010-07-03 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 07/ 3/10 10:50 PM, J. Forster wrote: master_clocks/g-0rb/http://esoteric.teac.com/master_clocks/g-0rb/ About $15,000. -John Perhaps you should ask why they don't use a more accurate reference than rubidium. Or better still, play dumb and ask them if this rubidium is the best possible

Re: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery

2010-07-04 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 07/ 4/10 08:48 AM, Steve Rooke wrote: Maybe we are into the wrong sort of projects here, instead of knocking together $10 testers we should get some cheap Rb units off fluke.l and start turning out $15,000 audio equipment. Can you imagine how much you could get for your ageing tube Cs unit in

Re: [time-nuts] Nuts and Phoolery

2010-07-04 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 07/ 5/10 02:56 AM, Steve Rooke wrote: On 4 July 2010 23:30, Dr. David Kirkbydavid.kir...@onetel.net wrote: Do the cheap fluke units allow locking to a 1 pps signal? If so, you could sell a GPS locked version for even more! You could get a Motorola M12+ from Bob for $0.01 if your lucky on

Re: [time-nuts] Meter Scale printing program

2010-10-12 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 10/12/10 09:27 PM, WB6BNQ wrote: OK, found it There is one version but two choices. The first is a FREE one with limited capability. The second is the same program but with a key to unlock all the color and variable adjustment capabilities of the program. The WEB page shows a number of

Re: [time-nuts] Febo.com SSL certificate expired

2010-10-18 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 10/18/10 03:21 AM, Oz-in-DFW wrote: I used these guys for $9: http://www.cheapssls.com/comodo-ssl-certificates/positivessl.html It was worth it to not have to walk people through accepting a self-signed cert. But the more people that fork out, the less common self-signed certificates

Re: [time-nuts] Rb video

2013-08-08 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 8 August 2013 04:10, Brooke Clarke bro...@pacific.net wrote: Hi Mark: These only ship to the UK. Does not ship to the US Have Fun, Brooke Clarke I've bought one. On the message to seller I have asked if he will ship outside the UK. I've had a couple of those rubidiums a few years, but

Re: [time-nuts] Rb video

2013-08-08 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 6 August 2013 09:37, Raj vu2...@gmail.com wrote: Found this on Hack-a-day http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chrzrod3tQY Cheers -- Raj, VU2ZAP Interesting video. I decided to but one of the distribution amps. I already have the rubidium. There were a few things that struck me in the video.

Re: [time-nuts] Rb video

2013-08-08 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 8 August 2013 14:49, mc235960 mc235...@gmail.com wrote: None left from that batch. Hope you got yours. I suspect he has a lot. He originally listed 10, and all them have gone, so he has listed another 10 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=161082475549 Dave

Re: [time-nuts] Rb video

2013-08-09 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 9 August 2013 03:50, Mark Sims hol...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Mark, I'm not sure why you needed to start a new thread - why not just add to the old one? I also use a blinking status LED controlled by an ATTINY13 AVR chip. It also reads a temperature sensor and controls a PWM'ed fan. The

Re: [time-nuts] Rb video

2013-08-09 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 9 August 2013 14:09, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi A few observations: 1) He talks about using a heat sink on the front panel, but then never shows it / does it. The fan inside the box is not going to cool that Rb the way it needs to be cooled. You either need a pretty massive heat

Re: [time-nuts] Using VNWA3 to compare Frequency Standards

2013-08-10 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 10 August 2013 19:59, Brooke Clarke bro...@pacific.net wrote: Hi: This is an interesting type of VNA where they independently change the LO and detector DDS clocks to fill in what otherwise would be nulls thus extending the frequency coverage. 20 minutes into the video they talk about

Re: [time-nuts] de Witte's Experiment

2013-08-27 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 27 August 2013 16:25, Steven Kluck skluck...@yahoo.com wrote: I am new to this group, and my main interest is time keeping/ time signal reception, but all of this frequency talk is catching my interest. If I had a couple of extra cesium frequency references, I would want to try Roland

Re: [time-nuts] DIY HP/Agilent 53131A 010 High Stability Timebase Option

2013-08-28 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 27 August 2013 04:42, Raj vu2...@gmail.com wrote: Found this on Hack-a-day http://gerrysweeney.com/diy-hpagilent-53131a-010-high-stability-timebase-option/ Regards -- Raj, VU2ZAP I've noticed one seller on eBay who is selling seller refurbished test equipment where he has put rubidiums

Re: [time-nuts] Getting a 5370A tomorrow - How do i test it works

2013-08-28 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 28 August 2013 17:35, cfo xne...@luna.dyndns.dk wrote: and as the seller wrote it is fully working , and passes self test. I was wondering if anyone could give some hints to test that it's working ok. I often ask sellers how something was tested. Some peoples idea of tested is very

Re: [time-nuts] B.V.A. 8600 for sale

2013-08-29 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 29 August 2013 01:00, Mann Weltzeit mweltz...@ymail.com wrote: I have recovered BVA Oscillators from Telecommunications decommissioned equipment and these tested Oscillator Modules are offered for sale to the Time-Nuts group. I have two 8600-06 units with 5 MHz sinus wave output on two

Re: [time-nuts] A readl atomic wristwatch

2013-10-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 1 October 2013 23:59, saidj...@aol.com wrote: Guys, there is only one problem: there is just no way they can claim only 1 second error in a 1000 years unless they also have a GPS receiver for calibration in there, which kind of mutes the point as that has been done using wwvb etc.

[time-nuts] Webinar: Phase Noise Jitter Measurements by Rohde Schwarz

2013-10-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I got sent an email about a Webinar, which is free (I like that!!!) on next Wednesday (Oct 9th). http://mwrf.com/webinar/webcast-phase-noise-jitter-measurements I'm not sure how useful it will be, but might be worth a look. Dave ___ time-nuts mailing

Re: [time-nuts] Webinar: Phase Noise Jitter Measurements by Rohde Schwarz

2013-10-03 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 3 October 2013 02:26, Joseph Gray jg...@zianet.com wrote: I won't be available when this is live. Do you know if the video will be available afterwards? Joe Gray W5JG Sorry, I don't know. You could ask either R+S or MWRF. I know Agilent archive their webinars, but I've never seen one from

Re: [time-nuts] Webinar: Phase Noise Jitter Measurements by Rohde Schwarz

2013-10-03 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
this evening. Its a series of flash files with a size of 20 - 50k. They can be saved in a hurry. I could not find a audio file, its also one of the flash files. At the end all files are gone. Its not very practical to save it. From: Dr. David Kirkby drkir

[time-nuts] PVC caps for RF connectors.

2013-10-16 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Some time back I needed to purchase some caps to cover RF connectors. Despite only wanting a couple of hundred of each, I was unable to get small quantities, so had to buy either 2500 or 5000 of each, so I have a few to spare. If anyone wants to cover their plugs and sockets to stop dirt and

Re: [time-nuts] PVC caps for RF connectors.

2013-10-16 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I forgot to add. There are some pictures on eBay of these, but I'm selling them cheaper off of eBay, but you can see the pictures with the various connectors. (No PL259 or S0239 shown, but they do fit. I had to hunt hard to find such connectors here)

Re: [time-nuts] national nc2001 atomic clock on eBay

2013-11-17 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 17 November 2013 15:48, Tom Van Baak t...@leapsecond.com wrote: I passed on it due to its weight and condition. /tvb I wonder if that is really worth more than its scrap value? Dave ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To

Re: [time-nuts] national nc2001 atomic clock on eBay

2013-11-17 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 17 November 2013 20:19, Don Latham d...@montana.com wrote: Ridiculous price for the condition. I do have kin in mnpls who could pick it up, but... Don It may well be incomplete too. It is quite possible someone has raided it for parts. Dave ___

Re: [time-nuts] national nc2001 atomic clock on eBay

2013-11-18 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 18 November 2013 02:41, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: I have paid a lot of money over the years for “stuff”. I’m not in any way saying that buying “stuff” is a bad idea. If you could make it work, that’s certainly neat stuff. My only issue here is - what’s this going to do for somebody?

[time-nuts] No more bad amplifier pdfs needed

2013-11-19 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
want anyone else to waste their time. I will upload a better version later. -- Dr. David Kirkby G8WRB http://www.vnacalibration.co.uk/ Economical accurate VNA calibration kits. Coefficients available for HP, Agilent, Anritsu, Rohde Schwarz and VNWA network analyzers

Re: [time-nuts] Advice on getting a used Agilent E4432B RF-Generator

2013-11-19 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 19 November 2013 16:53, cfo xne...@luna.dyndns.dk wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 09:35:00 -0700, Tom Knox wrote: Amazing price, is there a gun involved? Thomas Knox No gun , but some previous buys from same seller. And no options installed in the unit. I have just been told that the

Re: [time-nuts] EZGPIB Question

2013-11-20 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 20 November 2013 02:35, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: Don A couple of comments. I have the old ethernet 100 also. As I recall it would only work up until windows 98 or 2000.. I don't think that is true http://www.ni.com/download/ni-488.2-3.1.2/4360/en/ supports windows 8 and

Re: [time-nuts] GPS timing antenna 5 meter BNC Plug with cable

2013-12-05 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 5 December 2013 05:56, David J Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Anyone know whether these antennas are any good? Anyone used one? I wonder where they are made? http://www.rfsupplier.com/timing-antenna-meter-plug-with-rg58-coax-cable-p-2344.html Looks like it has no filter,

[time-nuts] Fwd: [Moon-Net] [Moon] 10GHz EME beacon?

2013-12-06 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
://www.nlsa.com/nets/moon-net-help.html -- Dr. David Kirkby G8WRB http://www.vnacalibration.co.uk/ Economical accurate VNA calibration kits. Coefficients available for HP, Agilent, Anritsu, Rohde Schwarz and VNWA network analyzers. ___ time-nuts mailing

Re: [time-nuts] GPS timing antenna 5 meter BNC Plug with cable

2013-12-06 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Dr. David Kirkby G8WRB http://www.vnacalibration.co.uk/ Economical accurate VNA calibration kits. Coefficients available for HP, Agilent, Anritsu

Re: [time-nuts] Efratom SLCR-101 rubidium - what have I just bought?

2013-12-26 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 26 December 2013 01:18, Philip Pemberton li...@philpem.me.uk wrote: Hi guys, It seems I must have had a bit too much to drink after Christmas dinner, as I've apparently gone crazy and bought an Efratom SLCR-101 Rubidium frequency standard: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400624911534 I

Re: [time-nuts] Efratom SLCR-101 rubidium - what have I just bought?

2013-12-26 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 26 December 2013 11:01, Philip Pemberton li...@philpem.me.uk wrote: Then there's the customs charge (20% VAT plus a £10 handling fee). So in most cases, buying from China is a bit of a false economy: $75 US at ~$1.5 to £1 = £50 £50 + 20% VAT = £60 Plus the £10 handling fee = £70

Re: [time-nuts] fast edge, rise time.

2013-12-26 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 26 December 2013 16:07, ct1dmk ct1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm willing to generate a pulse (of some few hundred volts) by discharging a capacitor into a pulse transformer There are probably more modern approaches, but a thryatron is one possibility. Shame I put on in the dump a few

Re: [time-nuts] Motorola GPS antenna type GCNT20A3A

2014-01-08 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Dr. David Kirkby G8WRB http://www.vnacalibration.co.uk/ Economical accurate VNA calibration kits. Coefficients available for HP, Agilent, Anritsu, Rohde Schwarz and VNWA

Re: [time-nuts] How I got my FE-5680A to lock in Sydney, Australia

2014-02-10 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 6 February 2014 21:32, Jamieson (Jim) Rowe jimr...@optusnet.com.au wrote: So I decided to test this in a crude way, by inverting the FE-5680A and seeing what happened. And - lo and behold - it locked up within 2.5 minutes, and stayed locked until I turned off the power and let it go cold

[time-nuts] Article in Metro (free London newspaper) about jamming GPS

2012-02-22 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On the train this morning I picked up a copy of the Metro (there are usually numerous copies on any train, as its free and does not take long to read). There was an article about financial institutions being concerned about the time of their clocks being purposely altered by GPS manipulation

Re: [time-nuts] Opera coordinator has resigned

2012-04-01 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 03/31/12 09:38 PM, Jim Lux wrote: On 3/31/12 1:15 PM, Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi Achim: SMA RF connectors have a very limited life (number of matings) until they are worn out. I don't think so. Yes, they're only rated for 500 cycles, but there's a paper by a guy at Maury Microwave that I ran

Re: [time-nuts] Opera coordinator has resigned

2012-04-01 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 04/ 1/12 03:33 PM, Jim Lux wrote: On 4/1/12 3:01 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: On 03/31/12 09:38 PM, Jim Lux wrote: I don't think so. Yes, they're only rated for 500 cycles, but there's a paper by a guy at Maury Microwave that I ran across when trying to get statistics on the reflection

[time-nuts] Antenna question about RHCP/LHCP I'm sure a time-nut can answer

2012-06-04 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
This is not exactly a time related question, but I'm sure the subject must be of interest to time-nuts using GPS. If one transmits from an antenna such as a helical one, RHCP, can the same antenna be used for reception, or does the helix need to be wound the other way? If you google this

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna question about RHCP/LHCP I'm sure a time-nut can answer

2012-06-05 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 06/ 5/12 04:06 PM, Rex wrote: I took a scan through Kraus Antennas since he did much of the definitive work on Helical antennas. In his chapter on Wave Polarization he gives a mathematical definition of Left- and Right-circular polarization, then quickly mentions that the IEEE definition is

Re: [time-nuts] Paywall rant

2012-06-05 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 06/ 5/12 06:43 PM, J. Forster wrote: IMO, the IEEE is pretty much useless for practicing engineers. It is mostly by and for academics to build up their resumes YMMV, -John I disagree with that. I find the IEEE useful as a practicing engineer. I think a lot of companies do to. My own

Re: [time-nuts] Paywall rant

2012-06-05 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 06/ 5/12 09:23 PM, Jerry Mulchin wrote: I joined IEEE for a while a few years ago with the hopes of being able to access the libraries I wanted most. What a shock to find out that I had to pay additional monies to get access to those files. So I quit the IEEE and now I keep getting Emails

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna question about RHCP/LHCP I'm sure a time-nut can answer

2012-07-07 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 06/ 5/12 12:26 AM, Magnus Danielson wrote: On 05/06/12 00:30, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: This is not exactly a time related question, but I'm sure the subject must be of interest to time-nuts using GPS. If one transmits from an antenna such as a helical one, RHCP, can the same antenna be used

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna question about RHCP/LHCP I'm sure a time-nut can answer

2012-07-07 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 07/ 7/12 05:43 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote: On 07/07/2012 06:21 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: I can confirm that I'm 100% sure that the polarization of the two antennas needs to be the same - i.e. both RHCP or both LHCP. I built two of them for RHCP, and got appreciate gain. Despite what

Re: [time-nuts] HP10514B Mixer Terminations

2012-09-10 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Dr. David Kirkby Ph.D C.Eng MIET ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] US ebay sellers who won't ship outside the US

2009-07-16 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
John May wrote: I'm in the UK and am often frustrated when a nice piece of kit is offered for sale on the 'bay by dealers in the US who won't ship overseas. I've been looking for an HP 5370B and have lost out on a few nice looking units because of this. There's one sitting there just now

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-07-31 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Marco IK1ODO wrote: Robert, Some power tubesmay use it internally. As far as I know, from many discussions with power tube manufacturers, no power tube uses beryllia, except for that conduction-cooled Eimac tubes. It's simply not needed. Other tubes (not power ones) may be different, but I

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-07-31 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Marco IK1ODO wrote: Robert, Some power tubesmay use it internally. As far as I know, from many discussions with power tube manufacturers, no power tube uses beryllia, except for that conduction-cooled Eimac tubes. It's simply not needed. Other tubes (not power ones

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: rare stuff available (National Company NC-1001 Atomichron)

2009-12-13 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Philip Pemberton wrote: First, I have a set of original DEC OS/8 TU56 distribution tapes. I emphasize, these are *original*, nearly pristine, DEC-labeled distribution tapes. I've had these for nearly thirty years. 'Nuff said. SNIP Second, I have an Atomichron. Yes, a real one, a

Re: [time-nuts] are any time-nuts also random-nuts?

2009-12-24 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
J. Forster wrote: Many years ago, when the State Lottern Numbers Game started up here, I noticed that doubles were coming up a lot... like 4662. I was utterly convinced they were overrepresented. However, being cheap and sane, I decided to test the theory before spending $$. I collected ALL

[time-nuts] Can a quartz crystal go off by 2% ?

2009-12-28 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I'm on the so-called 'Economy 7' electric in the UK, where I'm supposed to get cheap electric from 0030 to 0730 - i.e. a 7 hour period when electricity demand is low. I'm no longer heating by electric, but do run some computers 24/7. It's not totally clear whether this saves me money or costs

Re: [time-nuts] Can a quartz crystal go off by 2% ?

2009-12-28 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
not have thought a trimmer cap going open-circuit could have induced a 2% change. That seems an awful lot. Thanks for the idea of the ferrite rod. Dave --- On Mon, 28/12/09, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: From: Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net Subject: [time-nuts] Can

Re: [time-nuts] Can a quartz crystal go off by 2% ?

2009-12-28 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Bruce Griffiths wrote: If the trimmer in in series with the crystal and not shunted by another capacitor then the crystal will no longer control the oscillator frequency. 0.1pF or 0.01pF in series with a tuning fork crystal instead of the nominal value (20pf?) will make a singnificant

Re: [time-nuts] Can a quartz crystal go off by 2% ?

2009-12-28 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Bob Camp wrote: Hi Even with a tuning fork crystal, anything past about 0.2% is a very large changel. That's true for tuning and also true for normal aging. I suspect that something mechanical has happened. 1) A cracked crystal - unlikely 2).An electro magnet in the driving circuit no

Re: [time-nuts] Can a quartz crystal go off by 2% ?

2009-12-28 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
more than usual. Dave --- On Mon, 28/12/09, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: From: Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Can a quartz crystal go off by 2% ? To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Date: Monday

Re: [time-nuts] Can a quartz crystal go off by 2% ?

2009-12-29 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
the 50 Hz supply. Rob Kimberley The electricity bill always states the times are approximately 0030 to 0730 GMT. Therefore, there is no change for daylight saving. Dave -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Dr. David

[time-nuts] Anyone interested in helping port maths software to FreeBSD?

2010-01-17 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
I know many time-nuts use FreeBSD. Is there anyone interested in devoting some spare time to help port the GPL2 Sage maths software Sage http://www.sagemath.org/ to FreeBSD? There is someone else doing this (Peter, who I cc'ed this to), but I suspect Peter's efforts are somewhat hampered by

Re: [time-nuts] White LED's

2010-01-30 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Chuck Harris wrote: I bought some of the LED replacements for Edison bulb incandescents, and they have an afterglow that lasts for several minutes. It is very much dimmer than when they are turned on, but is there none the less. -Chuck I got one of these so called 2D fluorescent tubes in a

Re: [time-nuts] White LED's

2010-01-30 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Chuck Harris wrote: I bought some of the LED replacements for Edison bulb incandescents, and they have an afterglow that lasts for several minutes. It is very much dimmer than when they are turned on, but is there none the less. -Chuck I got one of these so called 2D

Re: [time-nuts] White LED's

2010-01-31 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Max Robinson wrote: I remember hearing about a law suit in an engineering law class I had to take way back when. It seems a farmer had a long fence running under and parallel to a high tension distribution line. He had hidden a copper line in it and was harvesting enough power to operate

Re: [time-nuts] connections for HP 10811A ?

2005-04-21 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005, Bill Janssen wrote: I picked up a HP 10811A today and need the connection information. I tried the WEB and went to the Bama site but at Bama they removed all HP info. Thanks Bill K7NOM I don't have time now, but are 99.9% sure I downloaded a manual (I'm not sure what

[time-nuts] Brooks Shera's GPS standard or HP Z3801A??

2005-04-25 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
are not that expensive. 5) Jitter on GPS. 6) If one needs to buy a manual on the Z3801A, that will add to its cost. Any other thoughts -- Dr. David Kirkby PhD CEng MIEE, Senior Research Fellow, Department of Medical Physics, Mallet Place Engineering Building, Gower St, University College London, London WC1E

Re: [time-nuts] HP/Agilent and manuals...

2005-04-25 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
by a PDF file. I don't have to pay them anything. 4) I have signed the document, returned it to Agilent by airmail, and will await their confirmation. Sorry I am not willing to go into further details just as this minute. But when I have received confirmation, I will post further details. -- Dr. David

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera's GPS standard or HP Z3801A??

2005-04-26 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
averager (because the sawtooth does not necessairly average out to zero in that timeinterval). Even then, the PRS10+M12+T is by far the best bang for the buck I can think off. I am confused how this can be cheaper although I accept its performance should be excellent. -- Dr. David Kirkby PhD CEng

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera's GPS standard or HP Z3801A??

2005-04-26 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
thoughts on that sort of idea above? Any obvious flaws?? Apart from the fact it is getting more and more expensive, and less and less related to the initial aim of making a couple of hundred year old pendulum clock more accurate!!! Dr. David Kirkby Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi Tom: Don't forget that SRS has

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera's GPS standard or HP Z3801A??

2005-04-26 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
thoughts on that sort of idea above? Any obvious flaws?? Apart from the fact it is getting more and more expensive, and less and less related to the initial aim of making a couple of hundred year old pendulum clock more accurate!!! Dr. David Kirkby Brooke Clarke wrote: Hi Tom: Don't forget

Re: [time-nuts] Upper limit on phase noise from two oscillators.

2005-04-27 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Dr. David Kirkby Ph.D. CEng MIEE, Senior Research Fellow, Department of Medical Physics and Bioengineering, Malet Place Engineering Building, Gower St, University College London, London, WC1E 6BT Tel: 020 7679 0273 On Wed, 27 Apr 2005, Tom Van Baak wrote: If I have two different

RE: [time-nuts] Upper limit on phase noise from two oscillators.

2005-04-27 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
This does not seem to make sense. No matter what you are measuring it is assumed that the phase noise of the item being measured is greater than the piece of test equipment doing the measurement, else you would not see it. My reason for asking this is that given I have nothing to make a phase

RE: [time-nuts] Upper limit on phase noise from two oscillators. (fwd)

2005-04-27 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
intention to fool anyone. Sorry if you did not mean it that way, but I can understand a certain sense of confusion. But they are different. I just wanted to put the record straight. Dr. David Kirkby. Senior Research Fellow, Department of Medical Physics and Bioengineering, Univeristy College London

Re: [time-nuts] Physical Clocks

2005-04-28 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
. David Kirkby PhD CEng MIEE, Senior Research Fellow, Department of Medical Physics, Mallet Place Engineering Building, Gower St, University College London, London WC1E 6BT. ___ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman

[time-nuts] Anyone want a pdf of the HP 5370B manual ?

2005-04-28 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
it commerically. If anyone has later revision sheets, that cover later serial numbers, let me know. -- Dr. David Kirkby PhD CEng MIEE, Senior Research Fellow, Department of Medical Physics, Mallet Place Engineering Building, Gower St, University College London, London WC1E 6BT

Re: [time-nuts] Programming of 5370B

2005-06-01 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
runs 24/7, the PC route would have been more expensive. -- Dr. David Kirkby PhD CEng MIEE, Senior Research Fellow, Department of Medical Physics, Mallet Place Engineering Building, Gower St, University College London, London WC1E 6BT. ___ time-nuts

[time-nuts] Agilent rep looking .. 5370A and 5370B.

2005-06-09 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
not considering myself serious, but what thinking the other day a second HP5370B would be nice. However, I will get my pendulum clocked to a 10811A (or perhaps a Stanford PRS10) first, before worrying about anything else. -- Dr. David Kirkby PhD CEng MIEE, Senior Research Fellow, Department of Medical

Re: [time-nuts] Battery backup of frequency standards

2005-06-09 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
already be doing it. I appreciate what you are saying. I will test the seals periodically. -Chuck Dr. David Kirkby wrote: For obvious rasons a frequency standard should be battery backed. I was intending puting the batteries in the same box as my GPS/rubidium etc, but was advised

Re: [time-nuts] Agilent appnote

2005-07-25 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
in the calibration procedure of vector network analysers. Application notes on their theory should be on the Agilent web site. -- Dr. David Kirkby PhD CEng MIEE, Senior Research Fellow, Department of Medical Physics, Mallet Place Engineering Building, Gower St, University College London, London WC1E 6BT

Re: [time-nuts] Cable Delay Measurements

2005-07-27 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
me know off-list. -- Dr. David Kirkby PhD CEng MIEE, Senior Research Fellow, Department of Medical Physics, Mallet Place Engineering Building, Gower St, University College London, London WC1E 6BT. ___ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https

Re: [time-nuts] Agilent App Note 174-10 (Cable Delay)

2005-07-29 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
meter (10-1500MHz) in either electronic or a paper copy they would loan me, could they let me know. I have two electronic copies, both of which have problems - one is a very old manual and the other incomplete. -- Dr. David Kirkby PhD CEng MIEE, Senior Research Fellow, Department of Medical

Re: [time-nuts] Agilent App Note 174-10 (Cable Delay)

2005-07-29 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Agilent aware of this, but they are not sure if the problem can be fixed or not. If I can fix it myself, I'll let them have a complete copy. -- Dr. David Kirkby PhD CEng MIEE, If you use Windows, there are two free programs for merging pages or entire PDF files - PDF Blender and PDFTK

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