Re: [time-nuts] Project GREAT - Galloping Galileo version

2018-12-09 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Once you get up to an OCXO sized package, you get quite a bit of volume. On an older TCXO design it’s sort of the same thing. The CSAC falls into a size range that is kind of on the borderline. I have seen packages that size vented in the past. Bob > On Dec 9, 2018, at 10:39 AM, jimlux

Re: [time-nuts] Project GREAT - Galloping Galileo version

2018-12-09 Thread jimlux
On 12/9/18 7:08 AM, Bob kb8tq wrote: Hi On a normal OCXO or TCXO design you would put the product in a package with a hermetic outer wall to keep out crud and moisture. Per the papers cited you would put a small vent hole in a “space grade” product. Every time I see an eBay listing with a nutty

Re: [time-nuts] Project GREAT - Galloping Galileo version

2018-12-09 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi On a normal OCXO or TCXO design you would put the product in a package with a hermetic outer wall to keep out crud and moisture. Per the papers cited you would put a small vent hole in a “space grade” product. Every time I see an eBay listing with a nutty price on a “space OCXO” I wonder if

Re: [time-nuts] Project GREAT - Galloping Galileo version

2018-12-08 Thread jimlux
On 12/8/18 4:52 PM, Bob kb8tq wrote: Hi What, no 0.046 +/- -.002” vent hole? Not on the physics package of the CSAC. As I understand it, the vacuum around the physics package is more for thermal isolation than anything else. You can tell that the vacuum is fading because the heater

Re: [time-nuts] Project GREAT - Galloping Galileo version

2018-12-08 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi What, no 0.046 +/- -.002” vent hole? That used to be a requirement on this sort of thing. Bob > On Dec 8, 2018, at 6:35 PM, jimlux wrote: > > On 12/8/18 11:30 AM, Bob kb8tq wrote: >> Hi >> You might be surprised by how well the CSAC does in orbit. There have been a >> lot of cases >>

Re: [time-nuts] Project GREAT - Galloping Galileo version

2018-12-08 Thread jimlux
On 12/8/18 11:30 AM, Bob kb8tq wrote: Hi You might be surprised by how well the CSAC does in orbit. There have been a lot of cases over the years where a device has done much better once it is away from “poking fingers” like pressure and other semi-random stuff …. Bob Oh, I'm pretty sure

Re: [time-nuts] Project GREAT - Galloping Galileo version

2018-12-08 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi You might be surprised by how well the CSAC does in orbit. There have been a lot of cases over the years where a device has done much better once it is away from “poking fingers” like pressure and other semi-random stuff …. Bob > On Dec 8, 2018, at 1:49 PM, jimlux wrote: > > On 12/8/18

Re: [time-nuts] Project GREAT - Galloping Galileo version

2018-12-08 Thread jimlux
On 12/8/18 10:58 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message <65c07521-6efc-f139-0722-a28b40330...@earthlink.net>, jimlux writes: There are folks developing and flying a Deep Space Atomic Clock (DSAC), [..] It will be in LEO, but maybe you can see the variation from the Moon and Sun? In

Re: [time-nuts] Project GREAT - Galloping Galileo version

2018-12-08 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <65c07521-6efc-f139-0722-a28b40330...@earthlink.net>, jimlux writes: >There are folks developing and flying a Deep Space Atomic Clock (DSAC), >[..] >It will be in LEO, but maybe you can see the variation from the Moon and Sun? In LEO for testing ? Otherwise the name seems a

Re: [time-nuts] Project GREAT - Galloping Galileo version

2018-12-08 Thread jimlux
On 12/8/18 10:12 AM, Peter Monta wrote: If a little eccentricity makes for a good test of relativity, wouldn't a lot of eccentricity be even better? :-) Does anyone know what clock facilities are on the Parker solar probe? Atomic clock? And a drag-free mode would have been great too, but I

Re: [time-nuts] Project GREAT - Galloping Galileo version

2018-12-08 Thread Peter Monta
If a little eccentricity makes for a good test of relativity, wouldn't a lot of eccentricity be even better? :-) Does anyone know what clock facilities are on the Parker solar probe? Atomic clock? And a drag-free mode would have been great too, but I doubt that was included. Cheers, Peter

Re: [time-nuts] Project GREAT - Galloping Galileo version

2018-12-07 Thread jimlux
On 12/7/18 9:38 AM, Mark Sims wrote: Looks like somebody (sort of) duplicated Tom's experiment (and stole the name): https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/12/07/galileos_magnifico_measurement_1976_redshift_test_updated/ And there's a mention of Tom's experiment in the comments.. So Time-nuts

[time-nuts] Project GREAT - Galloping Galileo version

2018-12-07 Thread Mark Sims
Looks like somebody (sort of) duplicated Tom's experiment (and stole the name): https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/12/07/galileos_magnifico_measurement_1976_redshift_test_updated/ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go