[time-nuts] WWVB Receiver

2019-07-29 Thread D. Resor
Here I found a complete "dead bug" style WWVB receiver project from 2017 on YT. #0001 WWVB Receiver Project - Part 1 https://youtu.be/zD_INHy3BBI Donald Resor N6KAW ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsub

[time-nuts] WWVB Disciplined Oscillator

2019-04-06 Thread Wayne Holder
Perhaps this has been mention before, but I found the following document while researching some details on WWVB and thought it might interest the group: https://www.kevincroissant.com/WWVB/WWVB_PTTI_2018.pdf I know that Spectracom once made a WWVB Disciplined Oscillator in the form

[time-nuts] Re: NIST 60KHz message

2021-03-14 Thread John Magliacane via time-nuts
On Sunday, March 14, 2021, 11:56:11 AM EDT, Jeffrey Pawlan wrote: > I have been using the new BPSK receiver for NIST. There are two strange > things that perhaps others can explain. I don't know if this has anything to do with what you are experiencing, but WWVB is currently unde

[time-nuts] WWVB Disciplined Oscillator

2019-04-07 Thread gandalfg8--- via time-nuts
it more for nostalgic reasons these days just because I like it:-) John Ackermann has some interesting observations on the 8164. https://www.febo.com/time-freq/wwvb/spectracom/index.html https://www.febo.com/time-freq/wwvb/spectracom/efc.html Nigel GM8PZR Perhaps this has been mention before

[time-nuts] Microsecond WWVB-Disciplined Rubidium Oscillator

2018-12-05 Thread Kevin Croissant
Hi all, This is my first post to time-nuts, though I've been following the list for a few years now. I've been reading the WWVB discussion over the past couple days and keeping up as best as I can, and wanted to mention that I presented at ION PTTI 2018 about microsecond level WWVB. I also

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Disciplined Oscillator

2019-04-06 Thread Adrian Godwin
Not personally, but in the UK a company called Quarztlock made both MSF (similar to WWVB) and 198kHz (a frequency-standard broadcast station) that were popular frequency standards in labs. They still exist but have replaced those products with Rubidium and GPS based standards. http

[time-nuts] WWVB converter

2019-10-25 Thread D. Resor
Here is what seems to be a circuit design to allow WWVB clock receivers work with the current signal format. 2012 WWVB Receiver Modification Modification makes homebrew receiver insensitive to WWVB's new biphase-shifted time code. http://www.maxmcarter.com/rubidium/2012_mod/ Donald Resor N6KAW

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB teensy BPSK early experiments

2020-11-02 Thread Chris Howard
On 11/2/20 6:59 PM, John C. Westmoreland, P.E. wrote: Hello Time Nuts, I have a question - Has anyone been successful getting WWVB to decode using the example for DCF77 and making the changes for WWVB? Yes. Maybe you mean other than me? Chris

[time-nuts] WWVB remodulator build.

2022-03-07 Thread paul swed
Looks like another wwvb remodulator has been built and a very nice writeup by Doug. He also writes up issues of LED light interference and approaches to solving that. Nice. Link here https://wa3dsp.org/spectracom_8170 The remodulator is a very simple way to make those old wwvb clocks work

[time-nuts] WWVB Signal Generator

2018-08-25 Thread D. Resor
I thought I would search in a different way for a WWVB signal generator design. I found this item. While the designer explains it isn't as accurate as WWVB it may be another starting point. http://www.tauntek.com/wwvbgen-low-cost-wwvb-time-signal-generator.htm Donald R. Resor Jr. T. W

[time-nuts] WWVB Translation

2018-10-27 Thread Andy Backus
For those still interested in GPS to WWVB simulation -- after trying a few antenna designs I found that a 50-foot loop of #26 enameled wire stapled to the rafters in the basement works quite well. Putting 35 ma (rms) of 60 kHz WWVB signal through it lights up the house quite nicely. I don't

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Disciplined Oscillator

2019-04-06 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The gotcha with WWVB is correcting for the day / night ionosphere issues. Since they are not 100% predictable, it’s not a real easy problem to solve. Toss on top of the the ambiguous status of WWV or WWVB ( = will it be there next year …. if so in what format ….) there layers

Re: [time-nuts] More ES100 / WWVB BPSK chips

2020-09-20 Thread Tom Van Baak
Mike, The BPSK format enhancement applies only to 60 kHz WWVB, not the short-wave WWV in CO or WWVH in HI. /tvb On 9/20/2020 3:48 AM, Mike Feher wrote: Hi Tom - I wonder if WWVH is also sending in the new format for you guys on the west coast, although you guys are closer to WWVB

Re: [time-nuts] new WWVB BPSK dev board

2018-12-04 Thread Attila Kinali
Moin, On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 18:11:30 -0800 "Tom Van Baak" wrote: > At long last, a complete WWVB 60 kHz BPSK dev board is available: > > https://universal-solder.ca/product/everset-es100-cob-wwvb-60khz-bpsk-receiver-kit-with-2-antennas/ > > Note it includes the a

[time-nuts] WWVB BPSK Atomic Clock Receiver Modules

2021-02-12 Thread Bryan _
Universal Solder has a Valentines day sale this weekend for up to 20% for members. They sell the WWVB BPSK Atomic Clock Receiver Modules and accessories for those interested. https://www.universal-solder.ca/ Cheers ___ time-nuts mailing list

Re: [time-nuts] La Crosse Clocks -

2020-12-26 Thread Tom Van Baak
As far as I know the only Ultra is still the original model 1235UA stainless steel 12h analog wall clock. [1] There are plenty of 24h WWVB clocks around but they all use the legacy AM WWVB format. Since you live in NJ I can understand why you want to use the new BPSK WWVB format. So here's

Re: [time-nuts] More ES100 / WWVB BPSK chips

2020-09-20 Thread Mike Feher
Hi Tom - I wonder if WWVH is also sending in the new format for you guys on the west coast, although you guys are closer to WWVB than I am, and the La Crosse just works great. Regards - Mike Mike B. Feher, N4FS 89 Arnold Blvd. Howell NJ 07731 848-245-9115 -Original Message

Re: [time-nuts] OOPS on my wwv legal post

2018-08-30 Thread John Marvin
I was under the mistaken impression that WWV/WWVB had some type of direct line to NIST in Boulder. However, when I toured the facility in Fort Collins earlier this year, I learned otherwise.  The signals and carriers are derived/synced from "ordinary" HP (possibly some mo

Re: [time-nuts] NIST

2018-08-11 Thread Tom Van Baak
> I wonder if anybody will market a GPS-to-WWVB translator? > Dana You can find lots of these projects on the web: in the time-nuts archives, eevblog, hackaday, or sometimes completed multi-band kits (WWVB / DCF77 / JJY) on eBay. Search for a couple of words like signal wwvb sim

[time-nuts] WWV, WWVB and Daylight Savings Time

2018-08-24 Thread Graham / KE9H
Currently, getting Daylight Savings Time status is easy using WWV or WWVB since they have bits in the protocol marking status for the US, and in the case of WWVB, impending change. If both the HF and LF signals go away due to the proposed budget cuts, what is the next simplest way (for something

Re: [time-nuts] Petition to Maintain WWV, WWVH, WWVB

2018-08-24 Thread Dana Whitlow
Is there more of it? What I see makes no reference to WWVB. Dana On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 1:10 PM Graham / KE9H wrote: > Here is the URL of a petition to maintain funding of WWV, WWVH, WWVB. > > Only currently at about 7 percent of the number required for a response > from

[time-nuts] Observations on how "Atomic" WWVB clocks set time

2018-09-07 Thread Mark Sims
time it was one of the most popular / capable WWVB clocks out there... I'd love to have one. - > BTW, has anyone ever seen a WWVB-based clock that displays the year? ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe,

[time-nuts] WWVB Dephaser Question

2020-10-08 Thread rcbuck
I have read several different articles where the WWVB phase shift is eliminated by doubling the signal to 120 kHz. Several members of the list have built these units. Assume I build a circuit to double the incoming signal and use a schmitt trigger to get a 120 kHz square wave. If I then divide

Re: [time-nuts] Spectracom 8161 "Standard Frequency Receiver - Oscillator" for WWVB (and question...)

2020-10-05 Thread Hal Murray
> On a WWVB setup you get 10’s of us ( yes microseconds) of movement at > sunrise and sunset. You get as much as 10us between day and night. Somehow, I was thinking that WWVB was ground wave and wouldn't be effected by changes in the height of the ionosphere. Am I total

Re: [time-nuts] More ES100 / WWVB BPSK chips

2020-09-20 Thread Mike Feher
Thanks Tom, I forgot WWVH was HF only. - Mike Mike B. Feher, N4FS 89 Arnold Blvd. Howell NJ 07731 848-245-9115 -Original Message- From: time-nuts On Behalf Of Tom Van Baak Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020 7:06 AM To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] More ES100 / WWVB

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB SDR discussion

2020-08-11 Thread John Magliacane via time-nuts
I'm seeing more than 100mV p-p right now (7:09 PM) (2309 UTC) on the output of my preamp from the east coast of New Jersey, 1622 miles east of WWVB. During my early days of WWVB experimenting, I found the signal is easier to spot (since it's buried in noise) if the scope's horizontal sweep

Re: [time-nuts] For those following ES100 WWVB receiver modules

2020-07-22 Thread David G. McGaw
The generic WWVB receivers in radio-controlled clocks are essentially TRF receivers using a 60kHz crystal as the tuned element. David N1HAC On 7/22/20 2:26 PM, Hal Murray wrote: tsho...@gmail.com said: I myself did some experimenting with a tuned loop antenna through a 60 kHz crystal

[time-nuts] local WWVB ?

2021-12-11 Thread Lawrence Brandt
Hi Folks, I always like your discussions! Now I'd like to ask a question. Has anyone designed and/or sold a "WWVB repeater" device? I can picture a Raspberry Pi which had software to get NTP data or GPS-referenced time, and a small 60 kHz transmitter, which would send the p

[time-nuts] WWVB and Chronverter update

2018-08-23 Thread paul swed
Hello to the group. Had sometime to hook up the chronverter wwvb simulator. Numbers of details. The software and operation are clear. Everything is easy to setup. Bad news. Though the system when set to wwvb puts out a signal on 60Khz its on off keying. WWVBs signal is reduced carrier by some 14db

[time-nuts] Cal standards, WWVB, etc. was Re: WWV and legal issues

2018-08-30 Thread jimlux
On 8/30/18 8:15 AM, Mike Bafaro wrote: According to what I have heard the 60KHz WWVB carrier is guaranteed accurate to the atomic standard and is considered traceable. I remember when I was in the Navy years ago I remember taking our unit's HP5245L for calibration and they used a VLF

[time-nuts] new WWVB BPSK dev board

2018-12-03 Thread Tom Van Baak
At long last, a complete WWVB 60 kHz BPSK dev board is available: https://universal-solder.ca/product/everset-es100-cob-wwvb-60khz-bpsk-receiver-kit-with-2-antennas/ Note it includes the antenna(s). Also has links to documentation. It would be very nice if a bunch of time nuts around

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Dephaser Question

2020-10-08 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi A lot depends on your antenna setup. You can also swamp out the incoming WWVB signal……. Bob > On Oct 8, 2020, at 2:07 PM, > wrote: > > I have read several different articles where the WWVB phase shift is > eliminated by doubling the signal to 120 kHz. Several members of

Re: [time-nuts] FS: Spectracom 8161 "Standard Frequency Receiver - Oscillator" for WWVB (and question...)

2020-10-04 Thread Kirk Bailey
Magnus, Thanks for the manual pointer! A quick scan doesn't offer me much insight to what the mod might be for (likely have to open it up as you suggest). The basic unit gives you the option of phase-locking the internal standard osc to WWVB with an output at .1, 1, 5, or 10 MHz , and you

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB PM Time Questions

2020-07-22 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 7/22/2020 7:35 AM, Rodger via time-nuts wrote: Hey Ray, Paul and I have a nice piece of code that generates the WWVB BPSK bit stream using an Arduino and a ublox GPS module. (total cost under $30) You could use this as a WWVB emulator while you're working on your code. Sorry, I can't

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB BPSK Atomic Clock Receiver Modules

2021-02-13 Thread rcbuck
They reduced the price by 20% but they want $19.40 for shipping. I decided I didn't need the development kit. I ordered one of the AM WWVB kits back in early Nov and the shipping charge was only $4.50. Original Message Subject: [time-nuts] WWVB BPSK Atomic Clock Receiver

[time-nuts] Re: local WWVB ?

2021-12-11 Thread Robb via time-nuts
When there was talk a few years ago about this service going away I found this alternative: https://www.anishathalye.com/2016/12/26/micro-wwvb/ -- Sent with Tutanota, the secure & ad-free mailbox. Dec 10, 2021, 15:54 by lawrence.bra...@gmail.com: > Hi Folks, > > > >

[time-nuts] ES100 Back in Stock

2018-12-31 Thread Patrick Murphy
Just a heads-up. Universal Solder has two different ES100 devices back in stock. https://universal-solder.ca/product/everset-es100-cob-wwvb-60khz-bpsk-receiver-kit-with-2-antennas/ https://universal-solder.ca/product/everset-es100-adk-v2-wwvb-bpsk-phase-modulation-receiver/ -Pat (KG5YPQ

Re: [time-nuts] For those following ES100 WWVB receiver modules

2020-07-22 Thread Hal Murray
tsho...@gmail.com said: > I myself did some experimenting with a tuned loop antenna through a 60 kHz > crystal bandpass hooked to a ... What is the bandwidth of the WWVB signal? What is the bandwidth of a crystal filter? (or probably, what are my choices, and what do I get if I use a lo

[time-nuts] WWVB BPSK Receiver -- Black Friday Sale

2020-11-27 Thread Tom Clark
FYI -- Universal Solder (https://www.universal-solder.ca) has theApplication Development Kit for EverSet ES100-MOD WWVB receiver on sale Nov 27/28 for 25% off = CDN$66.75 = US$51.34 shipping included. Note that this price is only good for 2 days. 73 de Tom K3IO -- This email has been

[time-nuts] ES100 Atomic Clock Receiver Back in Stock

2020-10-29 Thread Ben Hall
Good morning all, Universal Solder is showing the ES-100 WWVB BPSK clock kits back in stock. Just put me one on order. :) <https://www.universal-solder.ca/product/canaduino-application-development-kit-with-everset-es100-mod-wwvb-bpsk-atomic-clock-receiver-module/> Thanks much and 7

[time-nuts] Fwd: Re: local WWVB ?

2021-12-11 Thread Alex Pummer
Forwarded Message Subject:Re: [time-nuts] Re: local WWVB ? Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2021 09:57:49 -0800 From: Alex Pummer To: Attila Kinali Hi Attila, actually there are some repeaters, which do not generate their own carrier, but just receive and amplifying re

Re: [time-nuts] WWV/WWVB in NTP surveys

2018-09-02 Thread Björn
Hi, There are LF receivers available commercially today. See links below for one vendor. https://www.meinbergglobal.com/english/products/pci-express-dcf77-clock.htm and even an USB version for the NIST signal. https://www.meinbergglobal.com/english/products/usb-wwvb-clock.htm

Re: [time-nuts] new WWVB BPSK dev board

2018-12-04 Thread Tim Shoppa
Thanks for the heads up Tom! I ordered one and if it comes before the end of the year I may have some time over the holidays to do acquisition test from Maryland and maybe some cross-comparison with GPS PPS. Here in Maryland I have somewhat unreliable reception on commercial non-BPSK WWVB clocks

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Disciplined Oscillator

2019-04-07 Thread Tim Shoppa
Wayne, there was a superb 2015 QEX article by KD2BD on his WWVB disciplined frequency standard. Full article is online here: http://www.arrl.org/files/file/QEX_Next_Issue/2015/Nov-Dec_2015/Magliacane.pdf As a frequency standard I have no major disagreement with the PTTI article. But the 100

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Disciplined Oscillator

2019-04-07 Thread Bernd Neubig
Hi After the passing of Clive Green HCD Research has taken over the Quartzlock business mid 2016 Regards Bernd DK1AG > Not personally, but in the UK a company called Quarztlock made both MSF (similar to WWVB) and 198kHz (a frequency-standard broadcast station) that were popular freque

[time-nuts] ES100 WWVB clock notes

2019-07-22 Thread Tim Shoppa
After some initial evaluation in December last year, I've done some more work and prototyping with the ES100 WWVB chip+board from Universal Solder in various clock applications. Most of my work uses an Arduino Nano for processing. What I like is that the ES100 puts out data in UTC, which

Re: [time-nuts] More ES100 / WWVB BPSK chips

2020-09-20 Thread John C. Westmoreland, P.E.
Thanks Tom! John On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 1:19 AM Tom Van Baak wrote: > There were couple WWVB threads recently. > > One of the questions was if the La Crosse UltrAtomic 404-1235UA-SS wall > clock is still the only WWVB clock that uses the new BPSK format. I > learned that 3 diff

[time-nuts] More ES100 / WWVB BPSK chips

2020-09-20 Thread Tom Van Baak
There were couple WWVB threads recently. One of the questions was if the La Crosse UltrAtomic 404-1235UA-SS wall clock is still the only WWVB clock that uses the new BPSK format. I learned that 3 different companies made prototypes but only La Crosse went to market. So at this point

[time-nuts] Re: NOS Citizen Satellite Wave watch is excess to my needs

2021-09-13 Thread Mike Monett
I don't know if this post will work, but there is a simpler and cheaper way to put time on your wrist. A Casio Waveceptor Atomic Watch receives WWVB time from Fort Collins and Rugby, England each night. It switches to and from DST automatically and is generally accurate to within 1/10 second

[time-nuts] Re: NOS Citizen Satellite Wave watch is excess to my needs

2021-09-13 Thread Shawn
mic Watch receives WWVB time from Fort Collins > andRugby, England each night. It switches to and from DST > automatically and isgenerally accurate to within 1/10 second. The > battery is specified to lastfor 2 years, but both of my watches have > gone much longer. > The Wavecept

Re: [time-nuts] new WWVB BPSK dev board

2018-12-04 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Again to re-go over what has been said in the past: Unless they start filling the “extra” bits on the WWVB signal with something (are they doing this ) the whole modulation pattern is predictable. Once you know what time it is “now” what happens from then on can all be calculated. I

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB PM Time Questions

2020-08-19 Thread Rodger via time-nuts
Ray, I'll answer your question as I've done this. The d-psk-r's intended use is to remove the bpsk from the WWVB carrier for the purpose of allowing older WWVB receivers to recover phase info from the carrier and it works very well for that purpose. But, it can also be used, as you are trying

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Disciplined Oscillator

2019-04-06 Thread Kevin Croissant
Hi Wayne, Great to see you found my presentation! The paper is available here: https://www.kevincroissant.com/WWVB/WWVB_PTTI_2018_paper.pdf I traveled to CO and met with NIST people there and gathered more data then. We're planning to put out another paper soon (I'm finishing up my bachelor's

Re: [time-nuts] More ES100 / WWVB BPSK chips

2020-10-03 Thread Tim Shoppa
. But the new pinout is right there on the silkscreening on the breakout board which very nicely plugs into 0.1" perfboard or solderless breadboard. Gave it a quick spin this afternoon, it locked up with WWVB from the East Coast USA in broad daylight, and I can report that the same Arduino code works

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB PM Time Questions

2020-07-22 Thread Rodger via time-nuts
Hey Ray, Paul and I have a nice piece of code that generates the WWVB BPSK bit stream using an Arduino and a ublox GPS module. (total cost under $30) You could use this as a WWVB emulator while you're working on your code. Sorry, I can't really help with your question about demodulating

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB BPSK Atomic Clock Receiver Modules

2021-02-15 Thread fio
Hello, if anyone is interested, here is the source code for an NTP SHM driver for this hardware. Please note that I've only developed the code for the first generation hardware, although to my knowledge the spec sheet hasn't changed. https://github.com/fiorenzo1963/es100-wwvb-refclock

Re: [time-nuts] OOPS on my wwv legal post

2018-08-30 Thread Dana Whitlow
ping block; nothing heard back so far. Dana Dana On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 2:05 AM John Marvin wrote: > I was under the mistaken impression that WWV/WWVB had some type of > direct line to NIST in Boulder. However, when I toured the facility in > Fort Collins earlier this year,

Re: [time-nuts] NIST

2018-08-13 Thread David J Taylor via time-nuts
From: Craig Kirkpatrick I do like the idea of a GPS to WWVB timecode radio transmitter. I think that would sell well to folks on the fringe of coverage for WWVB such as Florida, Hawaii, and Alaska or other parts of the globe. I’ve found the real limitation to reception of WWVB is local

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Signal Generator

2018-08-25 Thread Wayne Holder
This guy has what looks like a well thought out design using a Sirf-Based GPS and ATTiny44A chip to generate a signal to update his watch: https://www.anishathalye.com/2016/12/26/micro-wwvb/ Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to have published a schematic or his source code. But, he covers enough

Re: [time-nuts] new WWVB BPSK dev board

2018-12-03 Thread Paul Bicknell
and frequency measurement Subject: [time-nuts] new WWVB BPSK dev board At long last, a complete WWVB 60 kHz BPSK dev board is available: https://universal-solder.ca/product/everset-es100-cob-wwvb-60khz-bpsk-receiv er-kit-with-2-antennas/ Note it includes the antenna(s). Also has links

[time-nuts] WWVB data to play with

2018-12-05 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
While everyone's been talking :-) , I recorded some WWVB IQ data for folks to play with. You can download it from http://febo.com/pages/wwvb/ The receiver ran at 48 ksps and was centered on 80 kHz (to allow a 20 kHz IF to move away from 0 Hz crud). The data was taken in early afternoon

Re: [time-nuts] WWV Doppler Shift

2018-11-20 Thread Tom Van Baak
> That was the first time that I had seen an xy plot of WWV versus a > stable crystal oscillator. It is even worse than I thought. I had to > look up FRK to see that it is a rubidium standard. I talked to Jim > Maxton the chief engineer of WWVB many times around 1995. An xy

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Disciplined Oscillator

2019-04-06 Thread paul swed
Wayne Holder wrote: > Perhaps this has been mention before, but I found the following document > while researching some details on WWVB and thought it might interest the > group: > > https://www.kevincroissant.com/WWVB/WWVB_PTTI_2018.pdf > > I know that Spectracom once ma

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Dephaser Question

2020-10-08 Thread rcbuck
Bob, I am using a ferrite rod antenna for the receiver. No outside antenna. Ray Original Message Subject: Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Dephaser Question From: Bob kb8tq Date: Thu, October 08, 2020 12:40 pm To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Hi A lot depends

Re: [time-nuts] FS: Spectracom 8161 "Standard Frequency Receiver - Oscillator" for WWVB (and question...)

2020-10-04 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, I got a bit curious, so I dug up the manual (Available from Orolia that Spectracom is part of): https://www.orolia.com/sites/default/files/document-files/8161_manual.pdf It is apparent that the reference oscillator is actually free-running but compared to the WWVB, so you manually tune

Re: [time-nuts] More ES100 / WWVB BPSK chips

2020-09-20 Thread Gregory Beat via time-nuts
seller LaCrosse Technology. greg, w9gb == Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 01:16:23 -0700 From: Tom Van Baak To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: [time-nuts] More ES100 / WWVB BPSK chips There were couple WWVB threads recently. One of the questions was if the La Crosse

Re: [time-nuts] La Crosse Clocks -

2020-12-26 Thread Tom Van Baak
> Transmitting on the same frequency you are receiving on seems like asking for  troubles. Same frequency, but you wouldn't do both at the same time. See, you can't transmit AM WWVB until you first know what time it is. To get the time you enable the ES100 and listen to BPSK WWVB.

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB BPSK Atomic Clock Receiver Modules

2021-02-13 Thread Bryan _
time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] WWVB BPSK Atomic Clock Receiver Modules They reduced the price by 20% but they want $19.40 for shipping. I decided I didn't need the development kit. I ordered one of the AM WWVB kits back in early Nov and the shipping charge was only $4.50

[time-nuts] Re: local WWVB ?

2021-12-11 Thread Attila Kinali
On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 15:54:55 -0500 "Lawrence Brandt" wrote: > Has anyone designed and/or sold a "WWVB repeater" device? I can picture a > Raspberry Pi which had software to get NTP data or GPS-referenced time, and > a small 60 kHz transmitter, which would send

[time-nuts] Re: local WWVB ?

2021-12-11 Thread rcbuck
:54:55 -0500 "Lawrence Brandt" wrote: Has anyone designed and/or sold a "WWVB repeater" device? I can picture a Raspberry Pi which had software to get NTP data or GPS-referenced time, and a small 60 kHz transmitter, which would send the proper WWVB timecode data to the se

[time-nuts] Re: local WWVB ?

2021-12-11 Thread Bryan _
That is a very impressive project. -=Bryan=- From: Robb via time-nuts Sent: December 11, 2021 5:48 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Cc: Robb Subject: [time-nuts] Re: local WWVB ? When there was talk a few years ago about

Re: [time-nuts] Petition to Maintain WWV, WWVH, WWVB

2018-08-24 Thread Adrian Godwin
There seem to be 2 : https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/proposed-shutdown-nists-wwv-and-wwvh-radio-stations On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 8:44 PM, Dana Whitlow wrote: > Is there more of it? What I see makes no reference to WWVB. > > Dana > > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 1:1

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Signal Generator

2018-08-25 Thread Vlad
Few moons ago, I was thinking about to connect little audio amp. with attached usual WWVB ferrite antenna to the computer sound card. But I was stack about how to modulate the signal using SoundCard libraries. There is bunch of example how to generate sine or rectangles. The question is how

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Dephaser Question

2020-10-10 Thread Ole Stender Nielsen via time-nuts
Den 08-10-2020 kl. 20:07 skrev rcb...@atcelectronics.com: I have read several different articles where the WWVB phase shift is eliminated by doubling the signal to 120 kHz. Several members of the list have built these units. Assume I build a circuit to double the incoming signal and use a schmitt

Re: [time-nuts] Spectracom 8161 "Standard Frequency Receiver - Oscillator" for WWVB (and question...)

2020-10-05 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, On 2020-10-05 11:20, Hal Murray wrote: >> On a WWVB setup you get 10’s of us ( yes microseconds) of movement at >> sunrise and sunset. You get as much as 10us between day and night. > Somehow, I was thinking that WWVB was ground wave and wouldn't be effected by > cha

Re: [time-nuts] Spectracom 8161 "Standard Frequency Receiver - Oscillator" for WWVB (and question...)

2020-10-05 Thread jimlux
On 10/5/20 3:59 AM, Magnus Danielson wrote: Hi, On 2020-10-05 11:20, Hal Murray wrote: On a WWVB setup you get 10’s of us ( yes microseconds) of movement at sunrise and sunset. You get as much as 10us between day and night. Somehow, I was thinking that WWVB was ground wave and wouldn't

[time-nuts] WWV / WWVB Reference Feed

2020-08-12 Thread DON MURRAY via time-nuts
reference for the WWV and WWVB transmitters at nearby Ft. Collins. My question: how is that reference transferred from the NISTfacility to the WWV / WWVB transmitter site? For some reason, I was under the impression that the referencefrequency for the transmitters was locally generated at Ft

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB teensy BPSK early experiments

2020-10-31 Thread rcbuck
Sorry Bob. I meant to address this question to Paul. "Things already accomplished by Chris in the wwvb AM receiver" Is there a link to the AM receiver? Curious as to what that looks like. Ray, AB7HE Original Message Subject: Re: [time-nuts] WWVB teensy BPSK early e

[time-nuts] Re: WWVB Daylight savings

2021-03-14 Thread lmcdavid
I have 3 WWVB AM clocks that did not update DST overnight last night but one that did and two BPSK clocks that did. Par for the course. The BPSK clocks always set correctly within 10 minutes any time of day.I moved the clocks that did not update into the garage out from under the aluminum

[time-nuts] Re: local WWVB ?

2021-12-11 Thread Bob kb8tq
ke your discussions! Now I'd like to ask a question. > > > > Has anyone designed and/or sold a "WWVB repeater" device? I can picture a > Raspberry Pi which had software to get NTP data or GPS-referenced time, and > a small 60 kHz transmitter, which would send the proper W

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Dephaser Question

2020-10-08 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Some of the folks doing this are running pretty massive antennas. If you believe that the max signal from WWVB into your antenna is around 1 mV and accept the 5V p-p number, then you would need at least 74 db simply to have it not be equal to the transmit signal at max signal levels. You

Re: [time-nuts] Spectracom 8161 "Standard Frequency Receiver - Oscillator" for WWVB (and question...)

2020-10-04 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi This is another of the many devices out there that pre-date the “modern” 180 degree phase modulation approach on WWVB. Getting one of these to run properly with the new modulation approach would take some major mods ….. Bob > On Oct 4, 2020, at 10:23 AM, Magnus Danielson wrote: >

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB funding cut

2018-08-20 Thread jimlux
On 8/20/18 4:17 PM, ew via time-nuts wrote: They're cutting a lot more than WWV/WWVH/WWVB - they're cutting 300+ folks in the labs doing all sorts of things. Download the doc that Rick posted the link to, go to page NIST-24 and start reading.. I don't know enough about how the labs

Re: [time-nuts] About the recent WWVB thread(s)

2018-08-20 Thread Tom Van Baak
This is reminder that time-nuts is a technical mailing list. If you know something about WWVB for sure, please post. If you're just guessing, speculating, spreading rumors, or just ranting please don't make 1800 other people read your posts. I don't know where some of you get the idea

Re: [time-nuts] new WWVB BPSK dev board

2018-12-04 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
Fort Collins. :-) Write a WWVB extension to KiwiSDR so you can try it all over the world ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be

[time-nuts] TrueTime DC60 wwvb clock looking for one

2020-02-13 Thread paul swed
Hello to the group. You may remember the wwvb d-psk-r from 2015 or not. It still lives. That said I would like obtain a Truetime DC-60 because its very easy to work on internally. Looking to build a test instrument for looking at the phase shift in the message. I have done it for years using

Re: [time-nuts] Spectracom 8161 "Standard Frequency Receiver -, Oscillator" for WWVB (and question...)

2020-10-05 Thread Martin VE3OAT
osphere. At VLF frequencies the wavelength is comparable to the height of the ionosphere (D layer, 70-90 km above earth's surface), so we have "waveguide propagation" in the "earth-ionosphere waveguide". The WWVB phase changes occurring during sunrise and sunset transi

[time-nuts] IC Used In WWVB Receiver (Link In E-Mail)

2020-09-21 Thread John C. Westmoreland, P.E.
Hello Time Nuts, Does anyone know which IC is used in the following: (Note: Links have been sanitized by the list moderator.) WWVB Receiver on Amazon <https://www.amazon.com/Alano-Controlled-Modules-Receiver-Operating/dp/B07RYK5KN6> It also comes with a clock module: With Clock Module

[time-nuts] For those following ES100 WWVB receiver modules

2020-07-22 Thread Tim Shoppa
The ES100 module sold by universal-solder.ca which Tom introduced us to a couple years ago, is now End-Of-Life. "A new module is currently in development". https://www.universal-solder.ca/product/everset-es100-cob-wwvb-60khz-bpsk-receiver-kit-with-2-antennas/ I myself did some exp

Re: [time-nuts] La Crosse Clocks -

2020-12-26 Thread Hal Murray
t...@leapsecond.com said: > Use a ES100 board [2] to receive the real BPSK WWVB and then generate a fake > AM WWVB signal for the 24h clock to receive. That way you get the enhanced > reception of the new format and the wide clock selection of the Transmitting on the same freq

Re: [time-nuts] ES100 Atomic Clock Receiver Back in Stock

2020-10-29 Thread Dana Whitlow
Just to be clear, is the ES-100 the receiver used in the Ultratomic clocks made by Lacrosse? Dana On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 7:38 AM Ben Hall wrote: > Good morning all, > > Universal Solder is showing the ES-100 WWVB BPSK clock kits back in > stock. Just put me one on order. :) &

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB teensy BPSK early experiments

2020-10-31 Thread Bob kb8tq
of the $3 eBay OCXO’s, steer that with a DAC output … now you have a WWVB GPSDO. Indeed, if the Teensy needs 28 MHz, then the OCXO will not be quite as cheap. Bob > On Oct 31, 2020, at 1:47 PM, paul swed wrote: > > Hello to the group. Wanted to update the everyone thats interested in

[time-nuts] Re: WWVB Daylight savings

2021-03-14 Thread paul swed
My clocks did update and I have one that lags by 2 weeks due to its very old internal software. It flips on the old date. WWVB was indeed down in the noise this afternoon as John mentioned. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sun, Mar 14, 2021 at 10:23 PM wrote: > Strange, here in KS one of my 60 kHz clo

[time-nuts] Re: Isotemp OCXO question

2021-08-21 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
Robert DiRosario writes: > I really wish NIST didn't add the BPSK modulation to WWVB. Increasing > the transmitter power would have been a lot better, but I'm sure that > would have cost a lot more then just changing the modulation. One does not simply increase the transmit

[time-nuts] Looking for another true time manual

2022-02-25 Thread Spencer Johnson
Good morning group, Wanted to see if anyone has a lead on a truetime 60-TR manual? I’m bidding on one via eBay, not sure of its condition. It’s another WWVB receiver, so I will likely have to do the conversion to make it compatible with the new modulation scheme. I’m also trying to figure

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Disciplined Oscillator

2019-04-07 Thread Wayne Holder
> Hi Wayne, > Great to see you found my presentation! > The paper is available here: > https://www.kevincroissant.com/WWVB/WWVB_PTTI_2018_paper.pdf Kevin, thanks for the link to the paper. I'd like to know more about how correlation works and how you were able to use to to sync w

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB teensy BPSK early experiments

2020-11-01 Thread rcbuck
Thanks John. Ray, AB7HE Original Message Subject: Re: [time-nuts] WWVB teensy BPSK early experiments From: "John C. Westmoreland, P.E." Date: Sat, October 31, 2020 9:06 pm To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Ray, https://github.com/ch

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB and Chronverter update

2018-08-23 Thread Didier Juges
Have you tried to contact the manufacturer? It sounds like something that should be easy to fix and that he would want to fix. Didier KO4BB On Thu, Aug 23, 2018, 8:55 PM paul swed wrote: > Hello to the group. > Had sometime to hook up the chronverter wwvb simulator. > Numbers o

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Translation

2018-10-27 Thread paul swed
. Oh hang on there thats what the de-psk-r is. Just add 60 KHz. Actually depending on the clocks cost as they get dropped maybe not a bad idea. Have fun with your system. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 6:04 PM Andy Backus wrote: > For those still interested in GPS to WWVB simulat

Re: [time-nuts] More ES100 WWVB Measurements

2019-01-01 Thread Hal Murray
> GPS has no bits for Daylight Savings.  As far as I know only WWV and WWVB > have those bits. So for a clock displaying local time WWVB is the way to go. WWVB's DST data is targeted at the US. Does anybody know how many other places use the same rules? What does Canada do? Has a

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