Re: [time-nuts] PICTIC II ready-made?

2012-04-29 Thread MailLists
There was also the short lived XPLA2 PZ/XCR3320,3960 (Ph/X) SRAM CPLD family, which had to be configured from an external memory... just another exception which confirms the rule. ftp://ftp.xilinx.com/pub/coolpld/isp/960_conf.pdf The even older intel FLEXlogic, bought by Altera, and rebranded

[time-nuts] Wilkinson TDC

2012-04-29 Thread Bruce Griffiths
The essentials of a Wikinson TDC can be simplified to the attached circuit which only requires the addition of a zero crossing comparator to monitor the voltage across the capacitor C1. A few refinements to improve the capacitor charging current switching transitions and the addition of an

Re: [time-nuts] Wilkinson TDC

2012-04-29 Thread paul swed
Do you have an actual circuit? It looks a lot like the old hp5360 counter interpolator. Regards Paul On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 3:51 AM, Bruce Griffiths bruce.griffi...@xtra.co.nz wrote: The essentials of a Wikinson TDC can be simplified to the attached circuit which only requires the addition

Re: [time-nuts] Antique Rb Standard - Thanks, Pictures, Parts Request, Question

2012-04-29 Thread Ed Palmer
Hi Magnus, On 4/28/2012 5:37 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote: Hi Ed, On 04/28/2012 08:43 PM, Ed Palmer wrote: First, I'd like to thank Magnus, Joe, Paul, and Ed for taking the time to provide answers, ideas, and challenges to my assumptions. It has all been very helpful. I'm still working on it so

Re: [time-nuts] Antique Rb Standard - Thanks, Pictures, Parts

2012-04-29 Thread Ed Palmer
Hi Gordon, I checked the link. The contacts are the same family, but they're a smaller version for use in connectors rather than soldered into a board. Thanks, Ed On 4/28/2012 6:05 PM, Gordon Batey wrote: Greetings to the time keepers, We used to use those connectors way back in the

[time-nuts] Trimble Thunderbolt GPS Antenna

2012-04-29 Thread Ken Kubick
Hi, Time-Nuts guys I just baught a Trimble Thunderbolt on ebay. I am in need of an antenna, there are so many on ebay I am not sure which one to get. Maybe someone could point me in the right direction? Thankyou Ken Kubick kenkub...@hotmail.com

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Thunderbolt GPS Antenna

2012-04-29 Thread Mark Spencer
I've been pleased with the performance of the Symmetricom 58532. I believe it has more gain than many other antennas and my case feeds a lengthy run (maybe 80 feet or so ?) of RG58 whichin turn feeds my Thunderbolt. --- On Sun, 4/29/12, Ken Kubick kenkub...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Ken

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Thunderbolt GPS Antenna

2012-04-29 Thread bg
Hi Ken, Hi, Time-Nuts guys I just baught a Trimble Thunderbolt on ebay. I am in need of an antenna, there are so many on ebay I am not sure which one to get. Maybe someone could point me in the right direction? Thankyou Ken Kubick How long antenna cable do you need in your location?

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Thunderbolt GPS Antenna

2012-04-29 Thread Chris Albertson
Just about anything will work. The most important thing, more important than the type of antenna is LOCATION. If you have a clear view of the sky and can mount the antenna on a 3/4 galvanized iron pipe mast then the in-expensive pointy 26dB ant. works well (180518378555) These will mount

[time-nuts] General Technology Corp model 304b

2012-04-29 Thread Donald Henderickx
After following Ed Palmer's thread on 304b restoration,I was inspired to get my GTC (tracor) 304b ser#279 going. It seems that the failure of this unit was the break down of the foam that was wrapped around the vcxo located inside the control box. The vapors or the moisture the foam collected

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Thunderbolt GPS Antenna

2012-04-29 Thread Larry McDavid
I recently installed one of the 58532A GPS antennas (this same part number is applied to both units marked Symmetricom and marked HP and the data sheets are very similar, though not identical). I'm confident it is the same antenna as the dimensions and appearance are identical. I'm using this

[time-nuts] Fwd: Ocean Optics HR 2000's for sale

2012-04-29 Thread J. Forster
Hi, I received the email below and am passing it on for those who might be intertested. Please contact Roland directly, off-list, with any questions, etc. Best, -John = Used Ocean Optics HR2000 Spectrometer, H9 grating (~200 nm bandwidth,) calibrated for ~470 to 670 nm, 10

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: Ocean Optics HR 2000's for sale

2012-04-29 Thread Don Latham
These are so neat I bought two of them. Do you Really wanna see what your Rb is doing :-)? Don J. Forster Hi, I received the email below and am passing it on for those who might be intertested. Please contact Roland directly, off-list, with any questions, etc. Best, -John

Re: [time-nuts] General Technology Corp model 304b

2012-04-29 Thread paul swed
Try a bit of the spray foam not actually in the unit. Since its intended for houses it should be high temp. Also recall it expands so truly a bit will do. Can't think of other foam. But I would go to a home depot and look at what that have for pipes. It may stand up to the heat. Then cut and fit

Re: [time-nuts] Antique Rb Standard - Thanks, Pictures, Parts Request, Question

2012-04-29 Thread ed breya
Yes, very nice pictures. That thing is really built and looks like it should be easy to work on and experiment with. I still have to say that I doubt the cavity is off-tune unless something serious happened to it mechanically. Is it even adjustable? If so, maybe someone previously tried to

Re: [time-nuts] General Technology Corp model 304b

2012-04-29 Thread Ed Palmer
Hi Don, You know that we're going to be swapping many emails, don't you? :-) On 4/29/2012 11:16 AM, Donald Henderickx wrote: After following Ed Palmer's thread on 304b restoration,I was inspired to get my GTC (tracor) 304b ser#279 going. It seems that the failure of this unit was the break

Re: [time-nuts] Wilkinson TDC

2012-04-29 Thread Bruce Griffiths
The circuit for the Tek 2440 is in the manual. However, it isnt that well executed. Relying on the overload recovery of an unclamped jfet input opamp limits the recovery time and performance as does the unisolated input capacitance of the opamps used to control the current source transistor

Re: [time-nuts] General Technology Corp model 304b

2012-04-29 Thread Marco IK1ODO
I have a working GTC 304 too. Mine is marked Sperry s/n 002 (!!) but has another GTC s/n inside the cover. Mine also locks in one hour, time for the xtal oven to reach temperature. It is installed in my frequency standards rack at work. If Ed needs any info, let me know. I never dismounted the

Re: [time-nuts] Antique Rb Standard - Thanks, Pictures, Parts Request, Question

2012-04-29 Thread Ed Palmer
Hi Ed, On 4/29/2012 12:28 PM, ed breya wrote: Yes, very nice pictures. That thing is really built and looks like it should be easy to work on and experiment with. I still have to say that I doubt the cavity is off-tune unless something serious happened to it mechanically. Is it even

Re: [time-nuts] Antique Rb Standard - Thanks, Pictures, Parts Request, Question

2012-04-29 Thread ed breya
If the Rb cell drifted enough (maybe if it was filled with water) to de-tune the mechanical cavity resonator, it wouldn't work at all. Only a small amount of the RF power in the cavity is coupled into the Rb gas. The bandwidth of the Rb resonance is a fraction of a Hz (Q in the millions),

Re: [time-nuts] General Technology Corp model 304b

2012-04-29 Thread Donald Henderickx
On 4/29/2012 1:36 PM, Ed Palmer wrote: Thank you Ed,Paul,and Marco for the reply's The foam I was referring to is or was around ceramic base were the igniter wire goes . Yes my wire also broke loose however I do not want to disassemble any more than I have to. I think that just inserting it

Re: [time-nuts] Antique Rb Standard - Thanks, Pictures, Parts Request, Question

2012-04-29 Thread paul swed
I will strongly agree about the cavity and not tuning it. The key is the multiplication chain and unless the srd is bad the rest of the chains pretty reasonable in the frequencies used. Typically a fair amount of power just before the srd. Regards paul. On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 4:19 PM, ed breya

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Thunderbolt GPS Antenna

2012-04-29 Thread Christopher Brown
Agreed, I picked up a new in box Symmetricom 58532 this winter. I was very surprised to get a usable signal from indoors (through attic, shingles, 4 inches of ice and 2 - 3 feet of snow). From the same room, my SIRFIII based GPSes would take 5 minutes or more to warm-lock and would randomly

Re: [time-nuts] General Technology Corp model 304b

2012-04-29 Thread Ed Palmer
Hi Don, On 4/29/2012 2:54 PM, Donald Henderickx wrote: On 4/29/2012 1:36 PM, Ed Palmer wrote: Thank you Ed,Paul,and Marco for the reply's The foam I was referring to is or was around ceramic base were the igniter wire goes . Yes my wire also broke loose however I do not want to disassemble

Re: [time-nuts] Wilkinson TDC

2012-04-29 Thread David
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 06:51:37 +1200, Bruce Griffiths bruce.griffi...@xtra.co.nz wrote: The circuit for the Tek 2440 is in the manual. However, it isnt that well executed. I like using the 2440 as an example because the design and theory are readily available online. Its execution only had to be

Re: [time-nuts] General Technology Corp model 304b

2012-04-29 Thread paul swed
Curious is the manual online? Would be interesting to look at. On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Ed Palmer ed_pal...@sasktel.net wrote: Hi Don, On 4/29/2012 2:54 PM, Donald Henderickx wrote: On 4/29/2012 1:36 PM, Ed Palmer wrote: Thank you Ed,Paul,and Marco for the reply's The foam I was

Re: [time-nuts] Antique Rb Standard - Thanks, Pictures, Parts Request, Question

2012-04-29 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Ed, On 04/29/2012 05:46 PM, Ed Palmer wrote: Hi Magnus, Second, pictures. If anyone is interested, check out http://s701.photobucket.com/albums/ww18/edpalmer42/Tracor%20304-B/ . Nice photos. Thanks. GAS building up. What does GAS mean? Gear Acquisition Syndrome. GAS is a diagnose

Re: [time-nuts] General Technology Corp model 304b

2012-04-29 Thread Ed Palmer
Yes, there's a partial copy of the manual online. It's missing a few schematics, but is otherwise complete. http://sundry.i2phd.com/ServiceManual_304b.pdf Ed On 4/29/2012 5:18 PM, paul swed wrote: Curious is the manual online? Would be interesting to look at. On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 6:33

Re: [time-nuts] Antique Rb Standard - Thanks, Pictures, Parts Request, Question

2012-04-29 Thread Cliff Sojourner
On 2012-04-29 16:21, Magnus Danielson wrote: Hi Ed, On 04/29/2012 05:46 PM, Ed Palmer wrote: Hi Magnus, Second, pictures. If anyone is interested, check out http://s701.photobucket.com/albums/ww18/edpalmer42/Tracor%20304-B/ . Nice photos. Thanks. GAS building up. What does GAS mean?

Re: [time-nuts] PICDIV for 1 min pulses

2012-04-29 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The problem is a bit more complex than simply getting a pulse at the second / minute. At least back when I last got into this - the pulses need to be the proper width. In some cases you need pairs of pulses in the right order. Simple solution - feed the Rb 10 MHz into the clock input on a

[time-nuts] Loran C back on

2012-04-29 Thread Rich and Marcia Putz
Hi all; Receiving Wildwood NJ GRI 8970 here in northern Indiana again today. FYI Rich - Original Message - From: time-nuts-requ...@febo.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 8:21 PM Subject: time-nuts Digest, Vol 93, Issue 152 Send time-nuts mailing list

Re: [time-nuts] General Technology Corp model 304b

2012-04-29 Thread Donald Henderickx
On 4/29/2012 6:27 PM, Ed Palmer wrote: Yes, there's a partial copy of the manual online. It's missing a few schematics, but is otherwise complete. http://sundry.i2phd.com/ServiceManual_304b.pdf Ed The bottom pin is not chassis ground,on this unit. The foam looked original before in

Re: [time-nuts] Loran C back on

2012-04-29 Thread Stan, W1LE
Rich, Thanks for the heads up. I will turn stuff back on. Stan, W1LE Cape Cod FN41sr On 4/29/2012 8:26 PM, Rich and Marcia Putz wrote: Hi all; Receiving Wildwood NJ GRI 8970 here in northern Indiana again today. FYI Rich ___ time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] General Technology Corp model 304b

2012-04-29 Thread Ed Palmer
Hi Don, On 4/29/2012 6:41 PM, Donald Henderickx wrote: On 4/29/2012 6:27 PM, Ed Palmer wrote: Yes, there's a partial copy of the manual online. It's missing a few schematics, but is otherwise complete. http://sundry.i2phd.com/ServiceManual_304b.pdf Ed The bottom pin is not chassis

Re: [time-nuts] General Technology Corp model 304b

2012-04-29 Thread Don Latham
A first-class engineered unit will have a single point where the chassis and circuit grounds tie together, Sometimes it's a panel, where the i/o connectors are coaxial. I've fixed units with good engineering and sloppy construction where accidental extra common points have caused problems. The

Re: [time-nuts] Wilkinson TDC

2012-04-29 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
Bruce wrote: The essentials of a Wikinson TDC can be simplified to the attached circuit which only requires the addition of a zero crossing comparator to monitor the voltage across the capacitor C1. A few refinements to improve the capacitor charging current switching transitions and the

[time-nuts] Trimble recommends RG-59 Antenna Cable.

2012-04-29 Thread Ken Kubick
Hi Time-Nuts guys, I was reading the Trimble Thunderbolt manual section 2.1.3 (Antenna Cable). Trimble recommends using RG-59 cable which is 75 ohm coax. Is this a typo or is this correct? I thought that the Trimble Thunderbolt would use a 50 ohm cable and antenna. Thankyou Ken Kubick