Re: Forming an opinion

2001-01-18 Thread Alex Fernández
Thanks, Costin. From the little I have seen so far, you haven't added much code; at least the line count is very similar to 3.2.1. You should feel proud of what you have accomplished so far; IMHO, all code-refactoring and re-design efforts are worthy, regardless of where it is released. If it's

RE: Forming an opinion

2001-01-18 Thread Paulo Gaspar
-Original Message- From: Remy Maucherat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 04:29 -Original Message- From: Jon Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 20:17 on 1/17/01 10:28 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL

Re: Jasper Bug 652 (do*Body not called): not a bug?

2001-01-18 Thread Rickard Öberg
Jeff Turner wrote: Having a look through bug 652: BodyTag doInitBody and doAfterBody called on tags without body (http://znutar.cortexity.com/BugRatViewer/ShowReport/652) I don't think this is a bug. The JSP spec, p88, says: "If an action element can have a non-empty body and is

FW:

2001-01-18 Thread chee-yong . poh
Tomcat+Apache-HOWTO.txt after doing all the step taken in the document me foung out that the javascript need to be refresh in order to see the th page. So do you any solution for this as soon as possible. I am using winnt WK 4.0 with service pack 5. Tomcat i am using 3.2 final release

Re: Forming an opinion

2001-01-18 Thread Thom May
* Paulo Gaspar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote on Thu Jan 18, 2001 at 11:49:41 +0100: -Original Message- From: Remy Maucherat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 04:29 -Original Message- From: Jon Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:

RE: Forming an opinion

2001-01-18 Thread Paulo Gaspar
-Original Message- From: Jon Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 04:42 on 1/17/01 7:43 PM, "Paulo Gaspar" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. You are flaming Costin again (is that harassment?); I don't see a flame there. I'm simply speaking truth.

RE: Forming an opinion

2001-01-18 Thread Paulo Gaspar
-Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 08:18 Paulo Gaspar wrote: However, one of them is that there is no such thing as a "version" of any Apache project until there is a vote to go that way, and elect a

Re: Forming an opinion

2001-01-18 Thread Anil Vijendran
Remy, Rest of your points re: Costin and your position on "3.3" well taken. But... Remy Maucherat wrote: However, I cannot say the same thing about you. Frankly, could you just *stop* that ? I don't think you fully realize it, but you're not helping either Costin or this project in any way

Re: Forming an opinion

2001-01-18 Thread Ted Husted
On 1/17/2001 at 11:17 PM Craig R. McClanahan wrote: Many of those rules and conventions are documented (such as the rules on voting), but some are not. One of the things I took away from the PMC meeting yesterday is the need to better articulate those rules. As a new committer to another

Proposed release of 3.3

2001-01-18 Thread John Holman
I'm auserand I rightly don't get a vote (and mightdo better to keep quiet!) but I think releasing a version 3.3 would be bad for the project unless the concerns about support can be fully resolved. This is so even though it seems to be agreed that the basic code itself is technically

RE: Forming an opinion

2001-01-18 Thread Paulo Gaspar
Again, you could have made just the same remaks about Jon's activity in this list. I know I am acting sily by going for the last word just as he does, but I wanted to see what would happen if someone else does the same. I am a no one here. I can aford doing this here. I would like to see this

Re: Forming an opinion

2001-01-18 Thread Gudmundur Hafsteinsson
How about splitting this list into two lists: tomcat-dev for those interested in seeing the development of Tomcat advance and tomcat-flames for those arguing all the time about nothing relevant ;-) Regards, Gummi Haf -- Gudmundur Hafsteinsson - [EMAIL

Re: Forming an opinion

2001-01-18 Thread Raminder Singh
What? And deny our fun? Regards, Ramindur Singh Message History From: Gudmundur Hafsteinsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 01/18/2001 11:35 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:

Re: Forming an opinion

2001-01-18 Thread Filip Hanik
tomcat-dev for those interested in seeing the development of Tomcat advance and tomcat-flames sounds like a good idea to me. :) Filip ~ Namaste - I bow to the divine in you. ~ Filip Hanik Technical Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Gudmundur Hafsteinsson"

AW: Urgent issue!

2001-01-18 Thread Kai . Rehlen
Well is there a solution? I know that Microsoft sucks but I don't think we can expect a change from this side. So I and a lot of others (see user list) would appreciate a solution from the Tomcat team. Thank you Kai -Ursprngliche Nachricht- Von: Graham Wright [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat RELEASE-PLAN-3.3

2001-01-18 Thread Jon Stevens
on 1/17/01 11:38 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: costin 01/01/17 23:38:24 Added: .RELEASE-PLAN-3.3 You are missing the word "support" in this entire document. It has already been stated that it is a *requirement* in the PMC meeting that in order for a

3.x vs 4.0 architecture Q's

2001-01-18 Thread horn_ken
Costin / 3.x advocates, I've read the catalina overview by Craig, and the link that Costin provided. Appologies if I haven't grasped enough of the designs as yet, still need to spend more time reading the source code. I'm just wondering about the benefits of the designs. As far as I can see,

JSP/Servlet: authentication

2001-01-18 Thread Sam T.
hi all please could someone give me hints on using jdbc [specially jdbcRleam] and servlets or JSP for user authentication to lookup user details to create a connection with. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

Re: Forming an opinion

2001-01-18 Thread Bernd Eilers
Hi there ! How about splitting this list into two lists: tomcat-dev for those interested in seeing the development of Tomcat advance and tomcat-flames for those arguing all the time about nothing relevant ;-) Well as I do not have commiter status this doesn't count but: +1 Reason:

BugRat Report #799 has been filed.

2001-01-18 Thread BugRat Mail System
Bug report #799 has just been filed. You can view the report at the following URL: http://znutar.cortexity.com/BugRatViewer/ShowReport/799 REPORT #799 Details. Project: Tomcat Category: Bug Report SubCategory: New Bug Report Class: swbug State: received Priority: high Severity: serious

Re: Proposed release of 3.3

2001-01-18 Thread Ted Husted
My personal feeling about this as a Jakarta (but not Tomcat) Committer is that the requirement for three binding (+1) votes before a public release is there to address the support issues. A (+1) vote on a public release should mean that you are signing-on for future development and support. In

Re: cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat RELEASE-PLAN-3.3

2001-01-18 Thread Matthew Pangaro
I'm not a committer, but just to add my $.02, this release plan looks very good, and seems like it meets my goals as a user/developer, and those of the community. I hope it gets approved, since it seems like a lot of good work has gone into this, and better yet, we'll have been able to finally

RE: Urgent issue!

2001-01-18 Thread Paulo Gaspar
Was this a problem with JServ too? Thanks, Paulo -Ursprngliche Nachricht- Von: Graham Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 18. Januar 2001 12:15 The problem does seem to be caused by IE but also varies depending of the version and service pack of Windows

cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat-4.0/catalina/src/share/org/apache/catalina/servlets WebdavServlet.java

2001-01-18 Thread remm
remm01/01/18 10:57:38 Modified:catalina/src/share/org/apache/catalina/servlets WebdavServlet.java Log: - Make the DAV collection enumeration code more robust. This is the equivalent to what was done in TC 4.1. Revision ChangesPath 1.9

RE: Proposed name encoding patch

2001-01-18 Thread Steve Downey
I was looking at this last night, by coincidence. It seems to me that the class name is encoding too much information. It's duplicating the package as part of the class name. I suspect it's getting confused between '/', '\', File.separatorChar, etc. It's also encoding characters that are legal

RE: Forming an opinion

2001-01-18 Thread Paulo Gaspar
Me and Jon are only posting constructive stuff now. Don't kick us more! =;o) Have fun, Paulo Gaspar -Original Message- From: Bernd Eilers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 14:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Forming an opinion Hi there !

cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat-4.0/catalina/src/share/org/apache/catalina/resources FileResources.java

2001-01-18 Thread remm
remm01/01/18 11:06:51 Modified:catalina/src/share/org/apache/catalina/resources FileResources.java Log: - Now handles the case where File.list() returns null. This fixes some rare NPE cases. That problem was already fixed in 4.1. Revision

BugRat Report #802 has been filed.

2001-01-18 Thread BugRat Mail System
Bug report #802 has just been filed. You can view the report at the following URL: http://znutar.cortexity.com/BugRatViewer/ShowReport/802 REPORT #802 Details. Project: Tomcat Category: Bug Report SubCategory: New Bug Report Class: swbug State: received Priority: low Severity: serious

Re: Urgent issue!

2001-01-18 Thread Hans Bergsten
Nick Bauman wrote: I think the problem is from some bugs in IE's HTTP/1.1 impl, which Apache out-of-box downgrades to a 1.0 conversation. Are you seeing this with TC standalone or with Apache in front of it? I have only seen this with TC standalone, but on the other hand, I've never tested

Clarification of decision rules [Was: Re: Forming an opinion]

2001-01-18 Thread Hans Bergsten
"Ted Husted" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Although I probably don't understand all the nuances of the "Apache Culture", as a Jakarta Committer, here is a draft "patch" that I would suggest to decisions.html (mostly parity-checks): [...] One of the action items from the meeting was to do

RE: TOMCAT ENCRYPTION OF CREDIT CARD NUMS???????

2001-01-18 Thread Steve Downey
Actually, the safest thing to do is never store the credit card number in clear text at all. Decrypt it only when it needs to be transmitted to the merchant bank, over their SSL connection. That way if the file or data base the CCNs are stored in is ever compromoised, you haven't lost the

Patch for bug 330

2001-01-18 Thread Tal Dayan
Hi Costin, Here is our patch for bug 330, Priority: high, Severity serious.(http://znutar.cortexity.com/BugRatViewer/ShowReport/330). Having this patch included the official release of 3.X.X will make Tomcat usable for us since we could not port our application from WebSphere to Tomcat 3.2.1

cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat-4.0/catalina/src/share/org/apache/catalina/servlets DefaultServlet.java

2001-01-18 Thread remm
remm01/01/18 12:20:56 Modified:catalina/src/share/org/apache/catalina/servlets DefaultServlet.java Log: - Fix inclusion problems by catching the IllegalStateException which can be thrown by the servlet container. Revision ChangesPath 1.19

RE: Patch for bug 330

2001-01-18 Thread Steve Downey
I suspect that this won't fix the underlying problem. The class name includes the path and makes it too easy to overflow the filename limit. For example: /jsp/snp/a/very/very/very/very/very/very/deeply/nested/snoop.jsp will not compile, while

RE: need another way with 2.2 servlets

2001-01-18 Thread Paulo Gaspar
Is it something you could solve with JSP custom taglibs? Notice that it is quite easy to intermix JSPs with Servlets. Just in case you don't know them, here are is a good introduction from Sun: http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/tutorial/TagLibrariesTOC.html and some Apache starting pointers:

Interceptors ( was Re: 3.x vs 4.0 architecture Q's

2001-01-18 Thread cmanolache
Looking at the latest 3.x src drops, there are say ~30 methods in BaseInterceptor, that is access points, into the request chain / context mapping / session handling etc. This obviously gives a degree of Hi Ken, All this will be reviewed and documented - if the release proposal is accepted.

Re: Release plan for 3.3 ( first draft )

2001-01-18 Thread Hans Bergsten
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I checked in the initial draft of the "release plan for 3.3" proposal: http://jakarta.apache.org/cvsweb/index.cgi/~checkout~/jakarta-tomcat/RELEASE-PLAN-3.3 I have some comments, see below. I'll publish the final version and propose it for vote after any

Re: Interceptors ( was Re: 3.x vs 4.0 architecture Q's

2001-01-18 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking at the latest 3.x src drops, there are say ~30 methods in BaseInterceptor, that is access points, into the request chain / context mapping / session handling etc. This obviously gives a degree of Hi Ken, All this will be reviewed and documented - if

RE: cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat RELEASE-PLAN-3.3

2001-01-18 Thread Larry Isaacs
A couple of comments: I would like to see a goal added like the following: X. With respect to JSP 1.1 issues, insure that Jasper in Tomcat 3.3 remains compatible with Jasper in Tomcat 4.x. and under Release criteria something like: X. Port all appropriate JSP 1.1 related changes from Tomcat

RE: Interceptors ( was Re: 3.x vs 4.0 architecture Q's

2001-01-18 Thread Paulo Gaspar
-Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 23:04 One appropriate question to ask yourself, when comparing, is "what does having 15 entry points give me that I cannot get with a single entry point approach"? If

Clarification of PMC emails

2001-01-18 Thread Jon Stevens
We had a in person PMC meeting on the 16th. This is described on the Jakarta News Page. Meeting minutes will be posted to this list soon. Part of the agreement of the meeting is that non-has-to-be-private PMC mail will be posted to the General@jakarta list in order to quell the belief that the

Re: cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat RELEASE-PLAN-3.3

2001-01-18 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
Larry Isaacs wrote: A couple of comments: I would like to see a goal added like the following: X. With respect to JSP 1.1 issues, insure that Jasper in Tomcat 3.3 remains compatible with Jasper in Tomcat 4.x. Larry, are you thinking of "compatibility" from the functional viewpoint (i.e.

A Note On The PMC Meeting Outcomes

2001-01-18 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
One of the outcomes of the PMC meeting on Tuesday (you will see the minutes published shortly) involves increasing the amount of open communication on general Jakarta issues that do not involve a few specific issues that require confidential discussions. The forum in which these discussions will

Re: Interceptors

2001-01-18 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
Peter Donald wrote: [snip] I am not saying that Catalinas concept of a valve is completely correct (it uses the Anti-Pattern Subvertion of Control - yuck !!) but it is definetly a step in the right direction. Personally if I was doing it then I would implement Inversion of Control and your

Re: Problem with apj13/jk_mod and multiple cookies!

2001-01-18 Thread Jason Pell
THANKYOU, THANKYOU, THANKYOU one and all. Oh what a beautiful day it is, to see Tomcat 3.2.1 with patch to Ajp13ConnectorResponse.java working as it should. I am extremely grateful. Thanks Jason Dan Milstein wrote: Jason, This has been fixed in the cvs tree for TC 3.2 -- the relevant

cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat-4.1/catalina/src/share/org/apache/catalina/servlets DefaultServlet.java WebdavServlet.java

2001-01-18 Thread remm
remm01/01/18 17:11:30 Modified:catalina/src/share/org/apache/catalina/servlets DefaultServlet.java WebdavServlet.java Log: - Fix to links encoding part 1 : Now the links encoding function is called everywhere it needs to be. This patch will be merged

Re: Interceptors

2001-01-18 Thread Jon Stevens
on 1/18/01 4:28 PM, "Craig R. McClanahan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you change the names and parameter orders a little, you have just quoted the new api for javax.servlet.Filter in the 2.3 Proposed Final Draft. I'd be game to change the Valve APIs to conform to this kind of pattern in a

Catalina + Apache

2001-01-18 Thread Nick Bauman
Hello Jakarta Tribe, We are targeting Tomcat 4.0 for a project to be released within 30 days. We currently have an app in production at Exodus in Chicago that utilizes many megabits of throughput and runs on multiple webservers that are load balanced using TC 3.1 and Apache 1.3. This is a new

Re: JSP engine classname generation question

2001-01-18 Thread horwat
Section 2.2.1 of the JSP 1.2 spec states that if the url path starts with "/" is is interpreted by the application to which the JSP page belongs. When it doesn't start with "/", it is interpreted relative to the current JSP page. This final path is interpreted through the ServletContext object.

Re: IM LOST, ERROR 500????

2001-01-18 Thread mpangaro
Delivery failure: javax.mail.MessagingException: 452 Filesystem error - message not accepted Delivery failure: javax.mail.MessagingException: 452 Filesystem error - message not accepted Delivery failure: javax.mail.MessagingException: 452 Filesystem error - message not accepted Delivery

RE: Clarification of PMC emails

2001-01-18 Thread Timm, Sean
Is this something that needs to be addressed on a per-project level basis, or is this a new policy handed down from the ASF? I'd be interested in seeing this happen on xml.apache.org as well... - Sean T. -Original Message- From: Jon Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday,

cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat RELEASE-PLAN-3.3

2001-01-18 Thread costin
costin 01/01/18 19:28:00 Modified:.RELEASE-PLAN-3.3 Log: - incorporate Jon's suggestions: specify that the release team will coordinate the support, the milestones will be periodical,based on the RM decision, +1 commiters will decide what goes in during beta, added

Re: Catalina + Apache

2001-01-18 Thread Nick Bauman
Uhhh, I just realized something With TC 3x, you could map an extension from Apache to the servlet engine with an AddHandler directive. I see nothing like this for TC4. Can someone enlighten me? On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Nick Bauman wrote: Hello Jakarta Tribe, We are targeting Tomcat 4.0 for a

RE: Patch for bug 330

2001-01-18 Thread Tal Dayan
Yes Steve, you are right, this is not a complete solution, but it is simple, and will reduce the pain at least for a while. In the example that you gave, the new encoding will save about 50 chars (four for each '/') so you can add 6 or 7 Very's to the path. This is a low risk patch can be

RE: Interceptors

2001-01-18 Thread cmanolache
Hi Pete, My goal is to explain why and how interceptors are used in tomcat3.x. While other solution exist, the design of tomcat3.x is based on certain design patterns that have certain advantages ( and disadvantages). The reasons for choosing this pattern: 1. One of the goals is to integrate

cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat-4.1/catalina/src/share/org/apache/catalina/loader StandardClassLoader.java StandardLoader.java

2001-01-18 Thread remm
remm01/01/18 21:58:24 Modified:catalina/src/share/org/apache/catalina/loader StandardClassLoader.java StandardLoader.java Log: - The loader will attempt to copy the JARs files contained in the /WEB-INF/lib path of the JNDI context to the work

RE: session timeout

2001-01-18 Thread Jayesh
I tried the first approach, it works great with 3.x. Thank you, Jayesh -Original Message- From: Kief Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 8:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: session timeout Jayesh typed the following on 08:00 AM 1/17/2001 -0800 I

BugRat Report #804 has been filed.

2001-01-18 Thread BugRat Mail System
Bug report #804 has just been filed. You can view the report at the following URL: http://znutar.cortexity.com/BugRatViewer/ShowReport/804 REPORT #804 Details. Project: Tomcat Category: Bug Report SubCategory: New Bug Report Class: swbug State: received Priority: high Severity: serious