Re: Apache/Tomcat/Struts Certification Proposal

2004-02-20 Thread Hans Wichman
orm of certification REQUIRED for a lot of positions. Just my .02 Regards, Drew -Original Message- From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 1:24 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Apache/Tomcat/Struts Certification Proposal Howdy, >What if you had tw

Re: Apache/Tomcat/Struts Certification Proposal

2004-02-20 Thread Adam Hardy
y, February 20, 2004 1:24 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Apache/Tomcat/Struts Certification Proposal Howdy, >What if you had two experienced engineers, but only one of them had a ASF >certification?? >Which one would you hire? I don't know, but the certification would not l

RE: Apache/Tomcat/Struts Certification Proposal

2004-02-20 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Howdy, >and yet were able to pass the exams; this also puts the non-technical >hiring managers in a precarious position. There is clearly no substitute Of course, non-technical hiring managers who have to hire software engineers are in a precarious position by definition almost, since they are

RE: Apache/Tomcat/Struts Certification Proposal

2004-02-20 Thread Oswald Campesato
m: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 1:24 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Apache/Tomcat/Struts Certification Proposal Howdy, >What if you had two experienced engineers, but only one of them had a ASF >certification?? >Which one would you hire?

RE: Apache/Tomcat/Struts Certification Proposal

2004-02-20 Thread Hans Wichman
ds, Drew -Original Message- From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 1:24 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Apache/Tomcat/Struts Certification Proposal Howdy, >What if you had two experienced engineers, but only one of them had a ASF >certifi

RE: Apache/Tomcat/Struts Certification Proposal

2004-02-20 Thread Hamilton Andrew
ED for a lot of positions. Just my .02 Regards, Drew -Original Message- From: Shapira, Yoav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 1:24 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Apache/Tomcat/Struts Certification Proposal Howdy, >What if you had two experienced engineer

RE: Apache/Tomcat/Struts Certification Proposal

2004-02-20 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Howdy, >What if you had two experienced engineers, but only one of them had a ASF >certification?? >Which one would you hire? I don't know, but the certification would not likely be the deciding factor. It would come down to the relevance of the experience, familiarity with the industry, etc, t

RE: Apache/Tomcat/Struts Certification Proposal

2004-02-20 Thread Januski, Ken
Struts Certification Proposal Howdy, Many typos today... Sorry ;) Yoav Shapira Millennium ChemInformatics >-Original Message- >From: Shapira, Yoav >Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 1:12 PM >To: Tomcat Users List >Subject: RE: Apache/Tomcat/Struts Certification Proposal >

RE: Apache/Tomcat/Struts Certification Proposal

2004-02-20 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Howdy, Many typos today... Sorry ;) Yoav Shapira Millennium ChemInformatics >-Original Message- >From: Shapira, Yoav >Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 1:12 PM >To: Tomcat Users List >Subject: RE: Apache/Tomcat/Struts Certification Proposal > > >Howdy, >My p

RE: Apache/Tomcat/Struts Certification Proposal

2004-02-20 Thread Randall Svancara
:12 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Apache/Tomcat/Struts Certification Proposal Howdy, My person view on most of these certification is that they're BS. They mostly tell you someone knows the nomenclature and has read some books. They're no substitute for experience, and when (t

RE: Apache/Tomcat/Struts Certification Proposal

2004-02-20 Thread Shapira, Yoav
ge- >From: Yansheng Lin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 12:59 PM >To: 'Tomcat Users List' >Subject: RE: Apache/Tomcat/Struts Certification Proposal > >I just thought it would help people with real knowledge to stand out and >have a >

RE: Apache/Tomcat/Struts Certification Proposal

2004-02-20 Thread Yansheng Lin
ys with current open source development structure. But just thought it would be an interesting idea. -Yan -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 1:35 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Apache/Tomcat/Struts Certification Proposal

Re: Apache/Tomcat/Struts Certification Proposal

2004-02-19 Thread Adam Hardy
On 02/19/2004 06:20 PM Yan Lin wrote: Hi, I am not sure if anyone has thought of this. From my research, I don't think it's possible for anyone to get certified on Apache products at this point. But since there are so many companies looking for people with these kind of skills, it would be nice

Apache/Tomcat/Struts Certification Proposal

2004-02-19 Thread Yan Lin
Hi, I am not sure if anyone has thought of this. From my research, I don't think it's possible for anyone to get certified on Apache products at this point. But since there are so many companies looking for people with these kind of skills, it would be nice to have an recognized entity like Apa