* that this is a
feature in Tomcat 5 (please please please!!!)?!?!?! :)
Thanks.
Neal
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From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:34 PM
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Subject: RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
Neal,
I told you that solution
. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:52 PM
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Subject: RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, neal wrote:
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 23:38:13 -0800
From: neal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I've deployed an app using Tomcat Standalone (www.hotel.us) and while
there
have been several issues that were a little less than obvious, I have
found
a solution to every single one of them and am overall pretty satisfied
with
tomcat. but this one little thing would force me to have to go to
: RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
Well, a few things come to mind.
1. A comparison was made - using tomcat as a web server is like racing a mac
truck. Well, for someone new to tomcat and apache (I just arrived from
microsoft/iis land) the correct usage pattern was less than obvious ... I
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I would disagree 100%. You're assuming that
priority one for any commercial use of Tomcat
is maximizing search engine placement for a
given URL.
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For additional
most will do) its not going to count when the engine realizes it is a
302.
:(
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From: Ralph Einfeldt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:42 AM
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Subject: RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
Me too.
Especially
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Subject: RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
Well, a few things come to mind.
1. A comparison was made - using tomcat as a web server is like racing a mac
truck. Well, for someone new to tomcat and apache (I just arrived from
microsoft/iis land) the correct usage pattern
Subject: RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
Its *not* that simple. Pagerank (guaging inbound links from
other sites)
would need to all be coordinated to point to that specifc
file. This would
be very difficult. PR is the most significant factor in SERPs on most
modern engines
Subject: RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
I'm not presuming its priority #1 always, but yes I am
presuming it is a
very high priority ... but ... 80% of web traffic comes from
search engines.
Unless you're one you've got a major print and media
advertising budget how
else do
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, neal wrote:
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 03:54:05 -0800
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Subject: RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
I'm not presuming its priority #1 always, but yes I am
09, 2003 5:34 AM
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Subject: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
I'd love to see a cite for 80% of web traffic comes from search engines.
I've worked on plenty of high-traffic public websites in my day, and have
never, ever found that to be the case
If the site has real value, the customers will find it all by themselves.
John
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From: neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:03 PM
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Subject: RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
You're
: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:17 AM
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Subject: RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
If the site has real value, the customers will find it all by themselves.
John
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From: neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:43 AM
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Subject: RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
(a) my ISP will want to get involved and charge me hourly for the
setup of an addt'l app
This is hosted on their server
: neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:26 PM
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Oh C'mon! How?!?!?! Telepathy? ;-) I know that there are
other means
such as word of mouth and as Craig said there's
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From: neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:48 PM
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Subject: RE: [OFF-TOPIC] RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
Is that right? The key we generated for Tomcat will also
work on Apache?!?!
This is surpising (though
Neal wrote:
Is that right? The key we generated for Tomcat will also work on
Apache?!?!
This is surpising (though a plesant suprise) because the method by which
we
had to create the key for tomcat was different than what the admin had
apparently done prior with Apache.
Noel wrote:
Neal
Hiya Neal (and others)
As a counterpoint to your argument about search engines and
small sites I have some real numbers:
From my website referrer stats:
(For an Apache HTTP: http://www.eaves.org)
Direct requests : 28%
Google.com : 1.5%
Google images : 0.7%
search.yahoo.com : 0.3%
Google.ca :
unless we care to undertake a dramatic new
survey of Internet and search engine usage patterns. ;-)
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From: Jon Eaves [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:59 PM
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.
Thanks.
Neal
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From: Turner, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 12:10 PM
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I can only comment on my own experience. I'm assuming that the application
of
profit, not to mention the cost of supporting that customer that first year.
And if they leave, you end up with nothing.
John
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From: neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:42 PM
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Subject: RE: RewriteRules and Standalone
Beat me with a stick if I'm wrong, but RewriteRule is for Apache when using
mod_rewrite, I don't think you can use it in server.xml or web.xml.
John
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From: neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:51 AM
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Subject:
: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
Beat me with a stick if I'm wrong, but RewriteRule is for Apache when using
mod_rewrite, I don't think you can use it in server.xml or web.xml.
John
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From: neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:51 AM
That would explain why I found references to RewriteRules for Apache on the
Internet, but none for Tomcat.
Damn!
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From: Turner, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 7:16 AM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: RewriteRules
Yes, specific to a Tomcat issue, but the solution incorporates Apache. :)
John
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From: neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 3:54 PM
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Subject: RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
Oh
Oh, does that mean it *is* possible to use RewriteRules with Tomcat
Standalone then? :-\
Neal
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From: Turner, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 1:04 PM
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Yes
1:04 PM
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Yes, specific to a Tomcat issue, but the solution incorporates Apache. :)
John
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To: Tomcat Users List
to Tomcat via WARP?
I'm confused. :(
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From: Gary Gwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 2:35 PM
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Subject: Re: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
Yes, but your requests must be passed through Apache to
Tomcat-Standalone via
to behave
differently.
John
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From: neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 5:47 PM
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Subject: RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
It sounds like you are saying that you must also run Apache ... that Tomcat
alone
to specifically configure Tomcat to behave
differently.
John
-Original Message-
From: neal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 5:47 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
It sounds like you are saying that you must also run
List'
Subject: RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
Many people do not run Tomcat on port 80. Some do. Those who don't, run
Apache on port 80 and use a connector to pass requests to Tomcat.
Tomcat Stand-alone means Tomcat running on port 80, or some other port
with the port number appended
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From: Turner, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 3:51 PM
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Subject: RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
See Tim Moore's reply to your post earlier today:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=tomcat-userm=104206237029628w=2
The discussion
, 2003 6:56 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
John,
Thanks for the threads. I will certainly read them.
I can't imagine why Tomcat wouldn't support this behavior unless there is
another issue in Tomcat that this is covering up ... I mean this is basic
http
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Turner, John wrote:
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 20:33:50 -0500
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No problem, glad to help. Remember
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From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:07 PM
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Subject: RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Turner, John wrote:
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 20:33:50 -0500
From: Turner, John [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply
Neal,
I told you that solution in the context of your avoiding a redirect (302),
not in the context of standalone Tomcat. mod_rewrite is an Apache module.
http://www.mail-archive.com/tomcat-dev%40jakarta.apache.org/msg38750.html is
the start of a thread on patching Tomcat to do a forward
OK, so what's the rationalization for the 302? Can you shed some light on
that?
John
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From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:07 PM
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Subject: RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
On Wed, 8
: RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
Hmm. But the fact still remains that Tomcat Standalone will not be a
commercially viable http server on its own if it can't display a welcome
page without redirecting to the page. Dispite all of Tomcat's other
abilities, not having this ability is like
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Turner, John wrote:
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 22:19:47 -0500
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Subject: RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
OK, so what's the rationalization
finally
getting around to putting it into action, I realized the problem.
Neal
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From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:34 PM
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Subject: RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
Neal,
I told you
Tomcat
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Turner, John wrote:
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 22:19:47 -0500
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Subject: RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
OK, so what's the rationalization
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From: Turner, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 7:27 PM
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Subject: RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
Sounds like the makings of a good debate, and a classic chicken and egg
problem. Does Tomcat submit to how some search engines
the product.
neal
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From: Turner, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 7:27 PM
To: 'Tomcat Users List'
Subject: RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
Sounds like the makings of a good debate, and a classic chicken and egg
problem. Does Tomcat
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, neal wrote:
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 23:11:44 -0800
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To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
So, in this scenario .. if a url without a directory
: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:24 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, neal wrote:
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 23:11:44 -0800
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On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, neal wrote:
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 23:38:13 -0800
From: neal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: RewriteRules and Standalone Tomcat
In you previous email you say:
This still screws up
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