RE: Tomcat and the HttpServletRequest Object

2005-08-13 Thread Jeff Grangier
- From: Wendy Smoak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 7:48 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Tomcat and the HttpServletRequest Object From: Hassan Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] :snips from: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.html#h-17.13 So it seems the HTML

Re: Tomcat and the HttpServletRequest Object

2005-08-13 Thread Mark Thomas
Jeff Grangier wrote: Would anyone in the Project Management Committee, Advisory board, or the committer group acknowledge that this bug is understood and will be considered in the next releases of Tomcat? The issue is understood. This is not a bug, since there is no spec violation. Given the

Re: Tomcat and the HttpServletRequest Object

2005-08-13 Thread Rob Hunt
Jeff, You still haven't given a rationale why you *need* the parameters presented in a specific order (even though the brower's supposed to produce that result). I've worked with a set of generic form processing servlets and never had the desperate need to know the order upon receipt; if I'm

RE: Tomcat and the HttpServletRequest Object

2005-08-12 Thread George Sexton
I see nothing in the specification that specifies the order of the elements returned in the enumeration. Why do you think this is a bug? George Sexton MH Software, Inc. http://www.mhsoftware.com/ Voice: 303 438 9585 -Original Message- From: Jeff Grangier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Tomcat and the HttpServletRequest Object

2005-08-12 Thread Jeff Grangier
in this upgrade? Thanks, Jeff -Original Message- From: George Sexton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 12:40 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Tomcat and the HttpServletRequest Object I see nothing in the specification that specifies the order of the elements

RE: Tomcat and the HttpServletRequest Object

2005-08-12 Thread George Sexton
' Subject: RE: Tomcat and the HttpServletRequest Object Hello George, I will consider it an ehancement if it is not in the specification. Adding a logical order to the list makes it much easier to manage dynamically. Otherwize, any programmer will have to create their own proprietary indexing

Re: Tomcat and the HttpServletRequest Object

2005-08-12 Thread Wendy Smoak
From: Jeff Grangier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Each Element out the getParameterNames enumeration used to be ordered based on the html form layout posting the data (using iPLanet). But, after the migration the fields are coming in random order when I try to loop through the fields dynamically. . .

RE: Tomcat and the HttpServletRequest Object

2005-08-12 Thread Jeff Grangier
: George Sexton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 1:46 PM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: Tomcat and the HttpServletRequest Object Even if I were to write this as an enhancement, I can tell you from past experience it would be rejected out of hand by the committers

Re: Tomcat and the HttpServletRequest Object

2005-08-12 Thread Bhupinder Dhillon
I have the same bloody problem. The application is a generic form handler that e-mails the form values. Most (all) of the clients expect the values to be in the same order as the form itself. I question the requirement to improve performance on request parameters. Vast majority of the

RE: Tomcat and the HttpServletRequest Object

2005-08-12 Thread GB Developer
The recognition (and so far, little acceptance) that form fields will not be sent in a guaranteed order by a browser, and never mind that, because even if your browser does, the container doesn't guarantee an order either... is from Beginner's Servlets. But maybe I only think that because the

Re: Tomcat and the HttpServletRequest Object

2005-08-12 Thread Wendy Smoak
From: Bhupinder Dhillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have the same bloody problem. The application is a generic form handler that e-mails the form values. Most (all) of the clients expect the values to be in the same order as the form itself. You are depending on arbitrary browser behavior. As far

RE: Tomcat and the HttpServletRequest Object

2005-08-12 Thread Jeff Grangier
-Original Message- From: Wendy Smoak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 4:07 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Tomcat and the HttpServletRequest Object From: Bhupinder Dhillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have the same bloody problem. The application is a generic

Re: Tomcat and the HttpServletRequest Object

2005-08-12 Thread Hassan Schroeder
Wendy Smoak wrote: You are depending on arbitrary browser behavior. As far as I can tell, there's nothing preventing me from writing a browser that, say, alphabetizes the request parameters before sending them to the server. well. :snips from:

Re: Tomcat and the HttpServletRequest Object

2005-08-12 Thread Wendy Smoak
From: Hassan Schroeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] :snips from: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.html#h-17.13 So it seems the HTML specification *does* require the parts be sent in particular (source) order. Thanks! I was using the wrong search terms-- 'parameter' instead of 'control