RE: [topbraid-users] linking glossaries to ontologies ( or taxonomies)

2024-02-23 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Fully agree. In SML the proposed “maps-to-term” relation is reusing rdfs:seeAlso. Dr. ir. H.M. Böhms (Michel) Scientist Specialist Mobility & Built Environment T: M: +31630381220 E: michel.bo...@tno.nl Location

RE: [topbraid-users] linking glossaries to ontologies ( or taxonomies)

2024-02-23 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Note, we also addressed this issue in EN 17632-1 Semantic modelling and linking standard in CEN TC442 WG4. (iso “Glossary” we use the term “Dictionary”* and we indicate how dictionary (in SKOS) and ontology (in RDFS/OWL/SHACL) can be modeled separately and linked) connecting the string and

RE: [topbraid-users] versionIRI import question

2024-02-01 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
On 1 Feb 2024, at 3:09 pm, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: I found: https://community.stardog.com/t/owl-versioniri-not-resolved/450 quoting: “ If O contains an ontology IRI OI and a version IRI VI, then the ontology document o

RE: [topbraid-users] versionIRI import question

2024-02-01 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
er On 31 Jan 2024, at 2:06 pm, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Importing a versionIRI that is not defined as base-uri seems to result in error. Is it always needed to publish explicitly also versionIRI’s? (so, have the vers

RE: [topbraid-users] versionIRI import question

2024-01-31 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
o: 'Branson, GaBriella C' via TopBraid Suite Users Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] versionIRI import question I don't see where we have special handling of owl:versionIRI, nor is it required for anything. What error do you get and with what file? Holger On 31 Jan 2024, at 2:06 pm, 'Boh

[topbraid-users] versionIRI import question

2024-01-31 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Importing a versionIRI that is not defined as base-uri seems to result in error. Is it always needed to publish explicitly also versionIRI's? (so, have the versionURI in ontology clause is not enough?) Thx Michel Dr. ir. H.M. Böhms (Michel) Scientist Specialist Mobility & Built Environment T:

Re: [topbraid-users] dash:abstract

2024-01-17 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
[ sh:inversePath rdf:type ] ; sh:maxCount 0 ; ] . Holger On 17 Jan 2024, at 12:07 pm, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users wrote: Would it be possible to expres dash:abstract somehow in pure/standard shacl code? Thx Michel Dr. ir. H.M. Böhms (Michel) Scientist

[topbraid-users] dash:abstract

2024-01-17 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Would it be possible to expres dash:abstract somehow in pure/standard shacl code? Thx Michel Dr. ir. H.M. Böhms (Michel) Scientist Specialist Mobility & Built Environment T: M: +31630381220 E: michel.bo...@tno.nl Location

RE: [topbraid-users] "skos+shacl"-only question....

2023-12-29 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
e, rather than a human then that concern probably does not matter as much. Cheers, David UK +44 (0) 7788 561308 US +1 (336) 283-0808 On 29 Dec 2023, at 13:22, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: I encounter an existing ontology that

[topbraid-users] "skos+shacl"-only question....

2023-12-29 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
I encounter an existing ontology that: * Uses skos for terms * Use shacl for shapes on instances that has a certain skos item as dct:subject * No use of rdfs/owl Like: otl-patroon:Aalgoot a sh:NodeShape ; sh:closed true ; sh:description "Basispatroon voor het

RE: [topbraid-users] Composer EOL?

2023-12-06 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
In the same line: transition options incl. pricing would be very welcome, michel From: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Jan Campschroer Sent: woensdag 6 december 2023 11:46 To: TopBraid Suite Users Subject: [topbraid-users] Composer EOL? I heard the whisper that TB Composer is end

RE: [topbraid-users] question wrt qualified constraint

2023-11-14 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
2023 09:34 To: 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] question wrt qualified constraint On 13 Nov 2023, at 11:42 pm, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Too many extra classes that are nonseman

Re: [topbraid-users] question wrt qualified constraint

2023-11-13 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Too many extra classes that are nonsemantical...would my proposed solution not be more natural? Op 13 nov. 2023 23:28 schreef Holger Knublauch : Can you not simply introduce a superclass :VehiclePart? Holger On 13 Nov 2023, at 6:09 pm, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users wrote

RE: [topbraid-users] question wrt qualified constraint

2023-11-13 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
fied value constraints are a pain to work with, either in OWL or SHACL. I have no recommendations for them as I almost never use them. I would just introduce a property :hasEngine and get rid of :hasPart. Holger On 10 Nov 2023, at 1:09 pm, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mai

Re: [topbraid-users] question wrt qualified constraint

2023-11-10 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
schreef Holger Knublauch : In both cases the constraint isn't doing any validation at all, so you can leave the sh:qualifiedMinCount out, if you only intend to use it to indicate relevance. Holger On 10 Nov 2023, at 10:23 am, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users wrote: I have a qualified con

Re: [topbraid-users] question wrt qualified constraint

2023-11-10 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
validation at all, so you can leave the sh:qualifiedMinCount out, if you only intend to use it to indicate relevance. Holger On 10 Nov 2023, at 10:23 am, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users wrote: I have a qualified constraint question. To define a meronomy (typical hasPart

[topbraid-users] question wrt qualified constraint

2023-11-10 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
I have a qualified constraint question. To define a meronomy (typical hasPart hierarchy) we now use in OWA/OWL: :Vehicle a owl:Class ; rdfs:subClassOf [ a owl:Restriction ; owl:minQualifiedCardinality "0"^^xsd:nonNegativeInteger ; owl:onClass :Engine ; owl:onProperty

RE: [topbraid-users] sh:targetSubjectsOf question

2023-10-25 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
to. If you delete the target, the shape will apply to nothing. Holger On 25 Oct 2023, at 11:48 am, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Is a sh:path for a s:targetSubjectsOf not redundant? Like in: https://otl.waternet.nl/def/99

[topbraid-users] sh:targetSubjectsOf question

2023-10-25 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Is a sh:path for a s:targetSubjectsOf not redundant? Like in: https://otl.waternet.nl/def/9962886e-9ab8-4a31-8286-38925258cb17-Shape ash:NodeShape ; sh:property [ sh:datatype xsd:string ; sh:path

[topbraid-users] RE: html generation question

2023-05-11 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
When downloaded from Sharepoint to desktop it works again, so it must be Sharepoint! (and you will use I guess relative paths) Gr michel From: 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users Sent: donderdag 11 mei 2023 11:35 To: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [topbraid-users] html

[topbraid-users] html generation question

2023-05-11 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
When I now generate HTML, because of the absolute paths it seems, I cannot transfer the HTML folder to another place without breaking links. Is there a solution for this or am I doing things wrong? (I copied the workspace HTML folder to a sharepoint location and it did not work anymore) Thx

RE: [topbraid-users] unexpected query result

2023-04-06 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
pbraid-users] unexpected query result Try SELECT * - I think the variable names are spelled inconsistently. Holger On 6 Apr 2023, at 10:55 am, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: What could be wrong here? Empty bpsStartKilometr

RE: [topbraid-users] unexpected query result

2023-04-06 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
. Holger On 6 Apr 2023, at 10:55 am, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: What could be wrong here? Empty bpsStartKilometring in query result…. The data is there (not always but I put ‘optional’). Why is data like 1250 fr

[topbraid-users] unexpected query result

2023-04-06 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
[cid:image001.png@01D9687E.BAD305A0] What could be wrong here? Empty bpsStartKilometring in query result The data is there (not always but I put 'optional'). Why is data like 1250 from row example being an integer not shown in query result? Thx for advice, Michel Ps Data was imported

RE: [topbraid-users] star

2023-03-17 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
] star TBC doesn't support any of this. Holger On 17 Mar 2023, at 12:36 pm, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: My try is attached. But then….how in tbc: Can I add the 2 meta-data items date and author for the age=23?

RE: [topbraid-users] star

2023-03-17 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
: Re: [topbraid-users] star I invite you to just try it out please. Holger On 17 Mar 2023, at 12:01 pm, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Thx, all clear Ps wrt example, I meant the Turtle counterpart for the actual yello

RE: [topbraid-users] star

2023-03-17 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
in the Source Code panel when you for example reify sh:minCount constraints. Holger On 17 Mar 2023, at 9:13 am, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Before I start reformulating/simplifying some of my ontologies (including object

RE: [topbraid-users] star

2023-03-17 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
://datashapes.org/reification.html You can see the supported shorthand syntax in the Source Code panel when you for example reify sh:minCount constraints. Holger On 17 Mar 2023, at 9:13 am, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Before I

[topbraid-users] star

2023-03-17 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Before I start reformulating/simplifying some of my ontologies (including objectifications of values to attach meta-data) to rdf-star... Would TDB support code like: EXAMPLE 9 :a :name "Alice" {| :statedBy :bob ; :recorded

RE: [topbraid-users] How to reference a property of an Object Relation?

2023-02-10 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
This is weird. Yesterday I made an example and I was in doubt whether to check if I did it right here. “ A SHACL coding example for the fact that the underlying datatype for the attribute ‘dbl:numberOfBuildingUnits’ for a dbl:Building is an xsd:integer: dbl:Building a rdfs:Class,

Re: [topbraid-users] visualisation issue

2022-09-19 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
is the only option. Cheers, David On 19 Sep 2022, at 16:10, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Is there any way to get it more user-friendly: They use no prefixes. And skos:preflabels (no rdfs:label). (can I infer rdfs:labels?

Re: [topbraid-users] instantiatinga property with range rdfs:Resource (in tbc)

2022-08-30 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
auch mailto:hol...@topquadrant.com>>: The OWL snippet below only declares a qualified cardinality constraint. That means that *some* of the values must be strings, but not all. For that you need to use owl:allValuesFrom. Holger On 30 Aug 2022, at 9:29 am, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite

Re: [topbraid-users] instantiatinga property with range rdfs:Resource (in tbc)

2022-08-30 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
that *some* of the values must be strings, but not all. For that you need to use owl:allValuesFrom. Holger On 30 Aug 2022, at 9:29 am, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Hi Holger How can I instantiate a property with range rdfs:Re

RE: [topbraid-users] HTML Documentation Generation from EDG

2022-03-09 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Hi Holger HTML is (was) perfect for documentation being not bound to any software tool… You cannot expect everybody to have or buy EDG for this. Think also about the successful ReSpec documentation here (https://respec.org/docs/). Gr michel Michel Böhms Data Scientist Unit Buildings,

RE: [topbraid-users] spreadsheet import issue in tbc

2022-03-08 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
essage. TNO accepts no liability for the content of this e-mail, for the manner in which you use it and for damage of any kind resulting from the risks inherent to the electronic transmission of messages. From: 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googleg

[topbraid-users] RE: spreadsheet import issue in tbc

2022-03-08 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
nner in which you use it and for damage of any kind resulting from the risks inherent to the electronic transmission of messages. From: 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users Sent: dinsdag 8 maart 2022 21:57 To: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [topbraid-users] RE: spreads

[topbraid-users] RE: spreadsheet import issue in tbc

2022-03-08 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
e-mail, for the manner in which you use it and for damage of any kind resulting from the risks inherent to the electronic transmission of messages. From: 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users Sent: dinsdag 8 maart 2022 21:46 To: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [topbraid-use

[topbraid-users] spreadsheet import issue in tbc

2022-03-08 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
I have a tab-delimted file with content like: Time out_1out_2 out_3out_4out_5out_6out_7 out_8 out_9out_10 out_11 out_12 out_13 out_14 out_15 out_16 out_17 out_18 out_19 out_20 out_21 14-06-2021T14:41:26.000 -0.00 -0.00

RE: [topbraid-users] uri-generation issue shacl/sparql

2022-03-02 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
ested then check the other variables. You may need to BIND them outside the CONCAT so you can see their datatype. Cheers, David On 2 Mar 2022, at 17:12, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: ?time is already string… Michel Böh

RE: [topbraid-users] uri-generation issue shacl/sparql

2022-03-02 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Cheers, David On 2 Mar 2022, at 15:36, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Why no Meting_1 result executing: When I delete the 3rd part I get (it right): So do I miss some function for the 3rd component? Thx Michel

RE: [topbraid-users] uri-generation issue shacl/sparql

2022-03-02 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
generation issue shacl/sparql Likely you need to cast ?time to be xsd:string. CONCAT requires strings. [cid:image003.png@01D82E61.112F2F40] Cheers, David On 2 Mar 2022, at 15:36, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Why no Meting

[topbraid-users] uri-generation issue shacl/sparql

2022-03-02 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Why no Meting_1 result executing: [cid:image001.png@01D82E52.B7C84120] When I delete the 3rd part I get (it right): [cid:image003.png@01D82E53.770D4030] So do I miss some function for the 3rd component? Thx Michel Michel Böhms Data Scientist Unit Buildings, Infrastructure & Maritime

[topbraid-users] error on delete in edg

2022-03-02 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
When i want to delete an ontology in edge I get: (thx for advice) An internal error has been reported: Exception in SWP Servlet. Stack trace org.topbraid.core.servlet.HttpErrorException: Exception in SWP Servlet at org.topbraidlive.swp.servlet.SWPServlet.run(SWPServlet.java:220)

RE: [topbraid-users] Question on SPARQL Web Pages File(.swp)

2022-02-07 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
rs, David On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 9:32 AM 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: I very much support this comment. I hope TQ comes with a solution soon... Michel Op 4 feb. 2022 22:55 schreef Tim Smith mailto:smith.ts...@gmail.com>

Re: [topbraid-users] Question on SPARQL Web Pages File(.swp)

2022-02-05 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
I very much support this comment. I hope TQ comes with a solution soon... Michel Op 4 feb. 2022 22:55 schreef Tim Smith : The bummer part of this product architecture change is now it is impossible to utilize the excellent model driven application capabilities that have always been a part of

Re: [topbraid-users] typed as property and class?

2022-01-13 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
13:57, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users wrote: Background In our NL standard we model quantities (‘stroefheid for some asphalt lanesection/strookvak’) like: :stroefheid rdf:type owl:ObjectProperty ; rdfs:domain :Strookvak ; rdfs:range nen2660:QuantityValue ; n

[topbraid-users] typed as property and class?

2022-01-13 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Background In our NL standard we model quantities ('stroefheid for some asphalt lanesection/strookvak') like: :stroefheid rdf:type owl:ObjectProperty ; rdfs:domain :Strookvak ; rdfs:range nen2660:QuantityValue ; nen2660:hasQuantityKind quantitykind:FrictionCoefficient ; . So they

RE: [topbraid-users] superclass online

2022-01-10 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
from my iPad On 24 Dec 2021, at 11:29, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote:  Hi David I now remember an earlier discussion on this wrt qudt. In the end I also had to import qudt graphs despite them being made dereferenceable by Ste

RE: [topbraid-users] superclass online

2021-12-24 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
s@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] superclass online You must owl:import ontologies (ie named graphs) in TBC. The ontology may be dereferenced, but not individual classes. Cheers, David On 23 Dec 2021, at 11:57, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-user

[topbraid-users] superclass online

2021-12-23 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
I have an ontology with a class "Gebouw" that is subclassof the nen2660:PhysicalObject class available online: https://w3id.org/nen2660/def#PhysicalObject (ie the latter is dereferenceable, or well ... that is the intention). In TBC however I do not see the superclass:

[topbraid-users] Log4j ?

2021-12-17 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Dear TQ We are asked by our management to check own-installed software on our systems for Apache Log4j issue vulnerability. Can you say something about that for TBC? (knowing that Jena is on the list (log4shell/software at main * NCSC-NL/log4shell

RE: [topbraid-users] 7.1 jena update?

2021-12-10 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Holger On 2021-12-10 6:09 pm, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users wrote: No, do not dare to upgrade because i might loose edg functionality. Considering pros and cons now Michel Op 10 dec. 2021 01:19 schreef Holger Knublauch <mailto:hol...@topquadrant.com>: Ha

Re: [topbraid-users] 7.1 jena update?

2021-12-10 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
No, do not dare to upgrade because i might loose edg functionality. Considering pros and cons now Michel Op 10 dec. 2021 01:19 schreef Holger Knublauch : Have you tried it out? Did it change? Holger On 2021-12-10 1:07 am, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users wrote: Small

[topbraid-users] 7.1 jena update?

2021-12-09 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Small question on jena. Is in 7.1 the jena bug resolved that made number-starting names use the prefix correctly? Thx Michel Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Bohms Scientist Specialist Structural Reliability T +31 (0)88 866 31 07 M +31 (0)63 038 12 20 E michel.bo...@tno.nl

[topbraid-users] sh:abstract

2021-12-06 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Hi Holger Is there any way in shacl to indicate a class cannot be instantiated? Related to: https://www.w3.org/2014/data-shapes/track/issues/78 I can see this goes against set theory but there is a need to say: "you have to instantiate a leaf". (I see people introducing own constructs for

RE: [topbraid-users] sparql question

2021-11-26 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
The way OPTIONAL and FILTER are combined in this example does not make sense to me. For example, you say that mengselType1 must be bound but mengselType2 can be unbound, but then you use FILTER to check that they are the same. On Nov 25, 2021, at 2:51 PM, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via To

RE: [topbraid-users] sparql question

2021-11-25 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
ql question Is this a typo ?bpsStartkilometrering vs ?bpsStartKilometrering (upper-case K) ? Holger On 2021-11-25 6:56 am, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users wrote: When I want to select attributes from different classes (monster & meting) that share the value of another attribute (here ‘bp

RE: [topbraid-users] sparql question

2021-11-25 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Startkilometrering vs ?bpsStartKilometrering (upper-case K) ? Holger On 2021-11-25 6:56 am, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users wrote: When I want to select attributes from different classes (monster & meting) that share the value of another attribute (here ‘bpsStartKilometrering

[topbraid-users] sparql question

2021-11-24 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
When I want to select attributes from different classes (monster & meting) that share the value of another attribute (here 'bpsStartKilometrering'), I now use the red below in annex 1. In the results I however get lines where ?meting sa:bpsStartKilometrering ?bpsStartKilometrering . is not

Re: [topbraid-users] TopBraid 7.1 Public Beta Announcement

2021-11-12 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
I support this view very much. I just loose my edg. Incl. the maintained importers exporters etc. Can tq tell me how much i have to invest now to get the same functionality ie kind of edg light for personal dev. use. Thx michel Op 12 nov. 2021 00:30 schreef Tim Smith : Ok... So for

RE: [topbraid-users] error for shaclgeneration

2021-11-03 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
eers, David On 3 Nov 2021, at 10:15, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Dear TQ When I convert my fairly simple RDFS ontology (attached) to shacl (in TBC-ME) I get: Resulting in an near-empty shacl file (only prefixes and on

RE: [topbraid-users] Validating owl:Classes or sh:NodeShapes

2021-10-29 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
rae.org/standard223/1.0/validation/schema> ; sh:select """ SELECT $this WHERE { FILTER (NOT EXISTS {$this rdfs:label ?something}) . } """ ; ] ; ] ; . Steve On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 1:00 PM 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users m

Re: [topbraid-users] Validating owl:Classes or sh:NodeShapes

2021-10-28 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
he locally defined classes for validation/inferencing. Don't have to have a/rdfs:subClassOf* in my queries when validating all our defined classes. I suppose it's a style/judgment call. Steve On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 11:59 AM 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topb

Re: [topbraid-users] Validating owl:Classes or sh:NodeShapes

2021-10-28 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Cant see why you would need an owndefined owlclass in your no owl rdfs Just type your random classes as rdfs class and subclass them wrt your rootclass itself also of type rdfs class. Op 28 okt. 2021 20:49 schreef David Price : Hi Steve Rdfs subclass is between RDFS Class as a set

RE: [topbraid-users] include question

2021-10-20 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
e cleanup/restart is needed though. Maybe there’s something leftover in TBC cache or workspace - suggest re-starting TBC. Maybe the TBC workspace is somehow corrupted and you should create a new one. Cheers, David On 20 Oct 2021, at 09:38, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mai

RE: [topbraid-users] include question

2021-10-20 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
To: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] include question EDG ontologies do not include themselves. I expect there is a circular import in your ontologies set. Cheers, David On 20 Oct 2021, at 09:08, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@google

[topbraid-users] include question

2021-10-20 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Everytime I cretae an ontology in EDG it seems somehow it is included in itself: example ontology 'sma': [cid:image001.png@01D7C59A.678B5920] So everytime I have to delete it I first have to delete this include first. At what point in time is this selfinclude added? Thx Michel Dr. ir. H.M.

RE: [topbraid-users] spreadsheet import by pattern, no-domain target props issue

2021-10-19 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
19 Oct 2021, at 11:14, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: That would be good news…. I added union domains for the relevant columns (5x). However ‘spreadsheet import by pattern’ does not provide the mapping, nor does it a

RE: [topbraid-users] spreadsheet import by pattern, no-domain target props issue

2021-10-19 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
spreadsheet import by pattern, no-domain target props issue Actually, OWL2SHACL handles that case (just tested in Composer 6.4). Something else must be “wrong”. On 19 Oct 2021, at 10:44, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Hi David

RE: [topbraid-users] spreadsheet import by pattern, no-domain target props issue

2021-10-19 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
ue On 19 Oct 2021, at 09:58, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Properties in the input ontology not having a domain cannot be chosen as target: (where the dashes are) Is this intended? Yes. See if you can create an i

[topbraid-users] spreadsheet import by pattern, no-domain target props issue

2021-10-19 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Properties in the input ontology not having a domain cannot be chosen as target: [cid:image004.png@01D7C4D8.437AF2B0] (where the dashes are) Is this intended? (these properties are valid for multiple sheets so they have multiple domains) I can understand they are not automatically proposed but

RE: [topbraid-users] multi-sheet import by pattern

2021-10-18 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
ps.com Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] multi-sheet import by pattern On 7 Oct 2021, at 10:21, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Is it possible to do a multi-sheet import? Leaving index open delivers a java-level error…..(which is

Re: [topbraid-users] owl restrictions for individuals?

2021-10-13 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
o see appear taking that OWL structure as input. EDG 7.1 will support the SHACL qualified value shapes and it does report violations … I’ve actually tested that and the CWA helps make that so. Cheers, David On 13 Oct 2021, at 13:00, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-

RE: [topbraid-users] owl restrictions for individuals?

2021-10-13 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
nt online RDL. Both of are easy in OWL and SHACL. Cheers, David On 11 Oct 2021, at 15:46, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Hereby also the actual code example for modelling implicit groups of assets. (via a nested constraint for

[topbraid-users] RE: owl restrictions for individuals?

2021-10-11 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
f messages. From: 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users Sent: Friday, October 8, 2021 12:52 PM To: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com Subject: [topbraid-users] owl restrictions for individuals? In asset management/modelling we often see the need to define groups of (many) thi

[topbraid-users] owl restrictions for individuals?

2021-10-08 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
In asset management/modelling we often see the need to define groups of (many) things that are not (yet) fully explicitly modelled. Ie a rdfs:Bag instance where not all rdfs:member' s are known explicitly. Such 'implicit groups' as we call them, we would like to represent using OWL restriction

[topbraid-users] multi-sheet import by pattern

2021-10-07 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Is it possible to do a multi-sheet import? [cid:image004.png@01D7BB6D.89666EE0] Leaving index open delivers a java-level error.(which is strange since its says ' optional' ) Maybe something like "1-2"? Thx michel Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Bohms Scientist Specialist Structural Reliability T

RE: [topbraid-users] edg class tree

2021-09-30 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
To: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] edg class tree Import RDF has a streaming option if you look under Imports. Cheers, David On 30 Sep 2021, at 11:52, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Ahhh I now

RE: [topbraid-users] edg class tree

2021-09-30 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Of Thing if that’s not desired, Cheers, David On 30 Sep 2021, at 10:36, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Why are classes shown in tree AND in the list: Activity as subclass of Entity is also shown in the list. Same in TBC only show

[topbraid-users] edg undo transform?

2021-09-30 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Is there any option in EDG to undo a Transform? When experimenting in TBC you can just infer without actual assertion. In EDG directly asserted. Thx michel Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Bohms Scientist Specialist Structural Reliability T +31 (0)88 866 31 07 M +31 (0)63 038 12 20 E

[topbraid-users] edg class tree

2021-09-30 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Why are classes shown in tree AND in the list: [cid:image004.png@01D7B5EF.731387F0] Activity as subclass of Entity is also shown in the list. Same in TBC only shows tree: [cid:image005.png@01D7B5EF.731387F0] Is that an edg setting? Thx Michel Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Bohms Scientist Specialist

Re: [topbraid-users] Better formulated potential sh:declare issues

2021-09-28 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Please see SHACL spec 5.1 An Example SPARQL-based Constraint - see https://www.w3.org/TR/shacl/#sparql-constraints and 5.2.1 https://www.w3.org/TR/shacl/#sparql-prefixes Cheers, David On 28 Sep 2021, at 19:54, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups

Re: [topbraid-users] Better formulated potential sh:declare issues

2021-09-28 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
le SPARQL-based Constraint - see https://www.w3.org/TR/shacl/#sparql-constraints and 5.2.1 https://www.w3.org/TR/shacl/#sparql-prefixes Cheers, David On 28 Sep 2021, at 19:54, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Wrt your ps I thin

Re: [topbraid-users] Better formulated potential sh:declare issues

2021-09-28 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
] ; . Cheers, David P.S. If you have an issue with a W3C spec, please report it to the W3C rather than the TB user forum. On 28 Sep 2021, at 16:12, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Together with our partner, BIM-Connected,

Re: [topbraid-users] Better formulated potential sh:declare issues

2021-09-28 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
the W3C rather than the TB user forum. On 28 Sep 2021, at 16:12, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Together with our partner, BIM-Connected, Miltos Gatzios, we tried to better formulate the actual issue we see with sh:

[topbraid-users] Better formulated potential sh:declare issues

2021-09-28 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Together with our partner, BIM-Connected, Miltos Gatzios, we tried to better formulate the actual issue we see with sh:declare. Issue 1 (not tbc issue, but general shacl issue) Metalanguage (https://www.w3.org/ns/shacl.ttl): sh:declare a rdf:Property ; rdfs:label "declare"@en ;

RE: [topbraid-users] malformed shacl

2021-09-27 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
manner in which you use it and for damage of any kind resulting from the risks inherent to the electronic transmission of messages. From: 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 8:17 PM To: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [topbraid-users] malformed sh

RE: [topbraid-users] malformed shacl

2021-09-27 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
On Sep 24, 2021, at 3:16 PM, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Took out the prefixes there, and added 3x declare in beginning, still: Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Bohms Scientist Specialist Structural Reliability T +31 (0)88 866

RE: [topbraid-users] malformed shacl

2021-09-26 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
solve such issues themselves and only need some general tips and hints that this list is designed to offer. When this is not the case (or for projects that may be too complicated to do without more intense interaction and mentoring from TopQuadrant), we can provide help off the mailing list through a con

[topbraid-users] malformed shacl

2021-09-24 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Hi David, Irene Tbc says maformed shacl for: [cid:image002.png@01D7B186.829E37A0] Any tip welcome, thx Michel Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Bohms Scientist Specialist Structural Reliability T +31 (0)88 866 31 07 M +31 (0)63 038 12 20 E michel.bo...@tno.nl

[topbraid-users] import issue by pattern

2021-09-24 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
When I import my spreadsheet in an ontology that has to variants of MonsterLaag One with prefix sainput One with prefix sa And I select MonsterLaag (the right one in the panel): I get: [cid:image001.png@01D7B181.D61F6C00] No more full uri of prefix there (for MonsterLaag). Also in the next

RE: [topbraid-users] define transform rule

2021-09-24 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
sources over which a rule can operate to generate new triples based on the information that exists about these resources. On Sep 23, 2021, at 2:43 PM, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote:  Ok, i tried: But the query sta

[topbraid-users] prefix

2021-09-23 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
And moreover: [cid:image001.png@01D7B0BC.5C6349B0] I thought i had to declare all used prefixes... But this second one stays red Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Bohms Scientist Specialist Structural Reliability T +31 (0)88 866 31 07 M +31 (0)63 038 12 20 E

RE: [topbraid-users] define transform rule

2021-09-23 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
To: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] define transform rule On 23 Sep 2021, at 13:44, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Think you did not confuse me with target. I meant target class being the cl

[topbraid-users] edg search results for classes

2021-09-23 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
In: [cid:image001.png@01D7B0B6.98D26260] When I type sa:Project in the quick search no results are shown... As you can see it IS there ... Normal or full text search, same issue Gr Michel Dr. ir. H.M. (Michel) Bohms Scientist Specialist Structural Reliability T +31 (0)88 866 31 07 M +31

RE: [topbraid-users] prefix use in edg

2021-09-23 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
To: topbraid-users@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [topbraid-users] prefix use in edg Sounds like duplicate prefix is consuing EDG. Choose one or the other and delete the duplicate and see if that fixed things. Cheers, David On 23 Sep 2021, at 10:33, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite User

Re: [topbraid-users] define transform rule

2021-09-23 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Thx David I'l try that. Op 23 sep. 2021 15:08 schreef David Price : On 23 Sep 2021, at 13:44, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Think you did not confuse me with target. I meant target class being the class i want to tra

Re: [topbraid-users] define transform rule

2021-09-23 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
.( projectNaam) } """ ; ] ; . but WHERE { $this sa-input:SomeAttrOf Monsterlaag ?value . $this sa-input:SomeOtherAttrOf Monsterlaag ?valueother . Etc Cheers, David On 23 Sep 2021, at 12:22, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

RE: [topbraid-users] define transform rule

2021-09-23 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
CT instances of “target" classes. Cheers, David On 23 Sep 2021, at 11:01, 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users mailto:topbraid-users@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Hi David In my input data from big excel I now have for instance the triple: sa-input:projectOmschrijving &

[topbraid-users] define transform rule

2021-09-23 Thread 'Bohms, H.M. (Michel)' via TopBraid Suite Users
Hi David In my input data from big excel I now have for instance the triple: sa-input:projectOmschrijving "bestekk 1654, N317 , Dieren - Hoog Keppel" ; I want to use this info to instantiate a separate Project class. I understand that here: [cid:image002.png@01D7B072.B1296780] I have to add

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