Don't forget that the humans sometimes in their older years or after
some damage in their youth lose some hearing and require adjustments
left and right. Just sayin' that while it can sometimes seem like it's
obvious to adjust the content the feature has some real purpose for some
people.
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pounce wrote:
Just sayin' that while it can sometimes seem like it's
obvious to adjust the content the feature has some real purpose for some
people.
I don't think anyone is arguing with you that for some people some of
the time, a balance control can be useful.
It might even be a useful
andyg;539956 Wrote:
I'll tell you right now Logitech won't do this, so use your Meridian
receiver or work on an open-source solution with sox.
My thanks for all of the replies chaps.
I guess the above on is most relevant, assuming that the tag is correct
that he is an employee.
Still, it was
My WD Passport Essential 320GB does not work. Seems to lack power. Spins
up, disconnects, then spins up again.
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Currently using a Samsung s2 500gb 2.5 external bus powered off the
touch, with 400gb of flacs, working great at the moment goes to sleep
after 5 mins idle, very quiet too.
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How can I connect the squeezebox touch to my NAS QNAP ts 110 ? How do i
get the squeezebox server software running on the nas- so that I donnot
have to turn the pc on all time ?
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pfarrell;540023 Wrote:
And a more modern solution to this problem is to use an audio editor
on
the data file, and adjust it once.
Balance is very subjective and easiest done with a remote from the
listening position. Not everyone is set up to do this conveniently
with a DAW.
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Out of interest, can you try a few 96/24 tracks saved as .wav instead
of .flac?
If it presents no stuttering from any of the USB drives you mentioned
then it's not drive speed as the primary factor.
cheers
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If it's just a simple radio station (not a Music Service) just press
hold the station within the menu list (or use + on remote), Save to
Favorites will be offered.
Currently adding to Favorites from the Now Playing screen is not
functioning (last I checked).
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If it's just a simple radio station (not a Music Service) just press
hold the station within the menu list (or use + on remote), Save to
Favorites will be offered.
Currently adding to Favorites from the Now Playing screen is not
functioning (last I checked).
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Hi,
I also tried to activate the access from my computer to the USB device
connected to the SB-Touch - but it does not work.
The sharing is activated in the SB (sharing Settings/Advanced/USBSD
Storage/Sharing) and I can see a very long name in the explorer under
My Network path.
But I can't
Daverz;540105 Wrote:
Balance is very subjective and easiest done with a remote from the
listening position. Not everyone is set up to do this conveniently
with a DAW.
Do you really adjust balance a lot/often?
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You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a
iPhone;539810 Wrote:
I knew there was still a good reason to use tubes!
.
.
Just kidding of course, I have a tube (valve for you UK folks) pre-amp.
Haha! Yes,I have a valve pre also,and a friend is currently designing a
pair of GM70 direct-coupled monoblocks to run my
Phil Leigh;540116 Wrote:
Do you really adjust balance a lot/often?
I don't have a balance control on my pre-amp! I bought into the whole
audiophile purity thing, regrettably. No balance control, tone
controls, loudness, etc. I did have a balance control on my older gear
and did use it
ncpl;540106 Wrote:
Soundman
Out of interest, can you try a few 96/24 tracks saved as .wav instead
of .flac?
If it presents no stuttering from any of the USB drives you mentioned
then it's not drive speed as the primary factor.
cheers
No problems whatsoever wirh 96/24 wav-files, no matter
Siduhe;539289 Wrote:
Would an easier way to troubleshoot this be as follows:
Create a manual playlist on the touch;
Save it;
Look at where the playlist has been saved and the format using a text
editor;
Replicate location and format on the other m3u playlists you want to
import?
With sharing enabled, does that allow drag and drop of new music from
the PC to the USB HDD attached to the Touch?
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Claus_m;540115 Wrote:
Hi,
I also tried to activate the access from my computer to the USB device
connected to the SB-Touch - but it does not work.
The sharing is activated in the SB (sharing Settings/Advanced/USBSD
Storage/Sharing) and I can see a very long name in the explorer under
My
Mr_Sukebe;540142 Wrote:
With sharing enabled, does that allow drag and drop of new music from
the PC to the USB HDD attached to the Touch?
Yes
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erland;540019 Wrote:
Make sure the Recommended Only Applets option in Applet Installer menu
is not checked.
I did. I'm only using the TinySC of the Touch, is that the problem?
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erland;540018 Wrote:
Not officially, can theoretically be done through SSH manually for very
simple small plugins, but even those can cause instability.
If I wanted to use your CustomClock app, is it as simple as copying the
4 files (CustomClockApplet.lua, CustomClockMeta.lua,
Tony T;540156 Wrote:
I did. I'm only using the TinySC of the Touch, is that the problem?
Could be, you can try to just install a SBS on a computer temporarily,
it should only be needed while you install the applet so you don't have
to run it all the time.
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'My
Phil Leigh;540116 Wrote:
Do you really adjust balance a lot/often?
Phil,
I'm curious if you are challenging the need for some people at all or
you are trying to get a sense of the importance of it to determine if
you believe the feature is one that should be added.
THE DEVICE HAS A HEADPHONE
Phil Leigh;540116 Wrote:
Do you really adjust balance a lot/often?
Phil,
I'm curious if you are challenging the need for some people at all or
you are trying to get a sense of the importance of it to determine if
you believe the feature is one that should be added.
THE DEVICE HAS A HEADPHONE
pounce;540163 Wrote:
I think it would be better for Logitech to be making this kind of
statement unless we enjoy being totally negative and want to help give
customers the impression (real or not) that development on this new
product is poorly supported and that they should just return the
pounce;540163 Wrote:
Phil,
I'm curious if you are challenging the need for some people at all or
you are trying to get a sense of the importance of it to determine if
you believe the feature is one that should be added.
THE DEVICE HAS A HEADPHONE OUT ON IT.
I don't think it's
Same here... 95% ALAC files, ripped using dBpoweramp (85%) or iTunes
(15%).
No crossfade.
Running v. 7.5.1 r8732
Very unnerving as it seems to be completely random.
Regards,
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Thanks for the clarification. Your question:
Do you really adjust balance a lot/often?
..does come across a bit challenging, but forums are silent and we
don't have any visual cues to know how we mean things. I think the
'really' in the question gave the tone.
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Well, the main point here is what Erland mentioned: It is probably very
easy to implement a balance control on the Touch itself, it's much more
challenging to make this remotely controllable.
The one thing I'm fearing here is that we are getting a lot of these
examples: Things you can do on the
erland;540165 Wrote:
No, Custom Clock is an applet, you can install that through the
Settings/Advanced/Applet Installer menu on the Touch.
Hmm... I tried that first. I get a No Applets Found message
(Recommended Only Applets option is unchecked).
I'm only using the Touch TinySC. Not sure
pounce;539943 Wrote:
Thanks. Was hopeful.
Was?? It supports Keyspan, FTDI, and Prolific chipsets out of the
box. You're telling me that soldering (and dremeling a hole for a data
cable?) is better than a $10 USD adapter?
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Free plugins: 'AllQuiet'
Daverz wrote:
pfarrell;540023 Wrote:
And a more modern solution to this problem is to use an audio editor
on the data file, and adjust it once.
Balance is very subjective and easiest done with a remote from the
listening position. Not everyone is set up to do this conveniently
with a DAW.
pounce wrote:
I'm curious if you are challenging the need for some people at all or
you are trying to get a sense of the importance of it to determine if
you believe the feature is one that should be added.
I'm not Phil, but unless shown otherwise, I think its a feature of low
value for 99% of
If this was really needed via remote I would imagine the two options
would be using a Controller or using a universal remote. Implementing
with a Controller would probably be the the most ideal since you would
pick up a lot of functionality and would be dealing with SqueezeOS on
both devices, but
pfarrell;540192 Wrote:
THE DEVICE HAS A HEADPHONE OUT ON IT. [/color]
I completely don't follow this. Of course it has a headphone output,
and
if you use headphones, the one big argument that sometime you are not
sitting in the sweet spot goes right out the window.
When you are
Tony T;540186 Wrote:
Hmm... I tried that first. I get a No Applets Found message
(Recommended Only Applets option is unchecked).
I'm only using the Touch TinySC. Not sure what I'm doing wrong.
Should work, otherwise I shouldn't even see the Applet Installer menu
option.
Is there
pippin;540212 Wrote:
It would not work with the controller either without a plugin.
I was really suggesting something native.
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As an aside, I can't recall any LP Turntables or CD players that had
built in balance controls. The touch is a 'source' component.
If you want balance, have it as part of your post source -
amplification / DSP / EQ etc.
I regard the headphone out as a convenience.
For serious headphone
JJZolx;540145 Wrote:
You can remove the password in the sharing settings on the Touch.
Try directly entering the name of your Touch (whatever you have set in
Settings Squeezebox Name) in Windows Explorer. For example, if
you've named it 'Fred':
\\Fred
If it connects then it should
Phil Leigh;540216 Wrote:
These bootleg live concerts.. are they legal then :-)
In many cases, yes. I've found some good stuff on Archive.org. Perhaps
I used the word bootleg wrong. ;)
It looks to be quite easy to implement...
What are your thoughts about using the remote or a remote?
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pounce;540201 Wrote:
Yes, the answer was helpful. I was exploring the idea of moving the
internals to another case and would have preferred serial on the board.
It's no big deal so I'm not sure why the critical post.
Sorry for any perceived negative tone; I didn't realize you were
I've found the remote access flaky and unstable. I'm not surprised at
the trouble people are having connecting.
As a matter of fact when I look at the feature on the touch right now
it's not seeing the SD card that it's currently playing from. I think
there are some bugs in this area.
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No worries. Having serial on the board would have made for a less messy
mating to an arduino.
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pounce;540213 Wrote:
I was really suggesting something native.
What do you mean by native?
The question is whether you implement this on the Touch (no remote
control other than IR) like e.g. the diagnostics menu or in the server.
The latter includes extensive UI work and probably settings sync
pounce;540201 Wrote:
Yes, the answer was helpful. I was exploring the idea of moving the
internals to another case and would have preferred serial on the board.
It's no big deal so I'm not sure why the critical post.
Pounce - you are being too sensitive - that's both Peter and I you've
had
pippin;540229 Wrote:
What do you mean by native?
The question is whether you implement this on the Touch (no remote
control other than IR) like e.g. the diagnostics menu or in the server.
The latter includes extensive UI work and probably settings sync with
MySB and is less likely to happen
Phil Leigh;540232 Wrote:
Pounce - you are being too sensitive - that's both Peter and I you've
had a (very mild) go at today. Please remember most people are not
being negative most of the time!
Good luck with your project.
Phil
Perhaps with as many posts as you both have and as casual as
Hi folks.
FYI.
I did run a test to either stream the tracks or to play them locally
from
a SD-card.
On the SD-card test scenario I even disconnected the ethernet cable, to
avoid catching any distortions through the ethernet.
I was running 44.1/16 .wav files.
First experience:
On local
Duet Controllers are not connecting - squeezeserver is working:
Any suggestions would be appreciated. System info:
- Squeezeserver v7.5 new update
- Controller firmware7.5.0 r8673 - installed OK
- squeezebox receiver at firmware v 65
- Diagnostics show connected to network - ping OK on
pounce;540239 Wrote:
Not being as intimate with the inner working as much as you or many of
the others...By Native I mean to add the functionality as core code and
not in the form of an applet or otherwise.
That doesn't make any difference. Most functionality in the user
interface of the
Test methodology?
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How does the IR code architecture work? When an IR command is captured
by the hardware on the Touch what happens? Can I assume that there is
some native library on the OS that captures that and somehow passed
that to what you are calling the server?
When I press the ffw button the IR remote for
Grahame;540214 Wrote:
As an aside, I can't recall any LP Turntables or CD players that had
built in balance controls. The touch is a 'source' component.
If you want balance, have it as part of your post source -
amplification / DSP / EQ etc.
I regard the headphone out as a convenience.
pounce;540253 Wrote:
How does the IR code architecture work? When an IR command is captured
by the hardware on the Touch what happens? Can I assume that there is
some native library on the OS that captures that and somehow passed
that to what you are calling the server?
When I press the
Mnyb;540258 Wrote:
The Controller can control the Touch if you have an external squeezebox
server running, if you don't use the internal one.
It's how most of use the Touch right now as a player without using the
internal server option.
Ok. Gotcha. If the server (running on another box) can
You have many many variables above what you have stated to deal with.
First, you haven't mentioned what connection you are using. You do
mention Jitter. Is this the only item you are considering to impact the
quality?
If so perhaps if you are in the business you might send your device to
some
pounce;540223 Wrote:
I've found the remote access flaky and unstable. I'm not surprised at
the trouble people are having connecting.
As a matter of fact when I look at the feature on the touch right now
it's not seeing the SD card that it's currently playing from. I think
there are some
It can be +jitter, +EMI/RFI, +power fluctuations, +timing variances, it
can be Alsa, rt-kernel settings, scheduling and priorities, asf. It can
even be a problem within the applications.
Higher load usually causes trouble, especially if your audio chain sits
very close to your processor. I'd be
soundcheck;540271 Wrote:
Since you read about my Linux background, you might guess that I
applied your mentioned tweaks already. ;) THX anyhow.
Really, because you were so vague in your posts about what you have
done and what you are trying to focus on (thus the comment about
testing
As a starting point I'd suggest capturing the analogue output, and then
comparing with audio diff maker to establish that there is a measurable
difference.
See elsewhere on this forum for the use of audio diff maker.
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Let me preface this post by saying the only - and I mean only - reason I
bought a Touch was for the 24/96 and 24/88.1 streaming. All of its other
capabilities are unimportant to me, other than that fact that it
integrates with all my other Logitech squeezeboxen.
Here are my preliminary results.
When i want make a connection with the touch i'm getting connection
refused
Do i have to enable something to get a connection ??
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madpatrick;540282 Wrote:
When i want make a connection with the touch i'm getting connection
refused
Do i have to enable something to get a connection ??
yes, go to advanced setings remote login and enable SSH.
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Found it. Thanks
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maggior;539183 Wrote:
$50 is significant. Depending on your situation, I'd wait.
Yeah, $50 is $50, but not that much if you compare it to the cost of
going to see one concert. It cost $50 bucks for a concert ticket and
one beer these days!!!
My concern is that if I don't get one now, I
maggior;539183 Wrote:
$50 is significant. Depending on your situation, I'd wait.
Yeah, $50 is $50, but not that much if you compare it to the cost of
going to see one concert. It cost $50 bucks for a concert ticket and
one beer these days!!!
My concern is that if I don't get one now, I
IIRC, it is ctrl-s from an attached USB keyboard. I don't think there's
a way to do it without a keyboard.
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IIRC, it is ctrl-s from an attached USB keyboard. I don't think there's
a way to do it without a keyboard.
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soundcheck;540265 Wrote:
Play and listen - AB comparisons - it was pretty obvious to me.. ;)
Do you have two touches?
I mean... This switching involves switching between player connections
and then starting the playback again. It's not like you can switch back
and forth between the signals.
pounce;540261 Wrote:
Ok. Gotcha. If the server (running on another box) can control the Touch
how is it doing this? What's the interface on the Touch that the Server
would use to control aspects of the Touch?
Ok. Basics. Here's a 1x1 on how a Squeezebox works.
To begin with, let's answer
same here as well
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pippin;540295 Wrote:
IR-Remotes are a bit in between. Actually I'm not sure whether they can
directly act on the player part for the Touch (I think no but I'm not
sure) but they can definitely act like a mouse, just controlling the
menu which means you can use them to activate any local
brodeur;540286 Wrote:
If I move a folder containing music touch will not play it. I have
tried to refresh the server but it does not help.
I have tested further; normally you can just go in and click on the
track you want to play. When a folder is moved some where else this
feature
Claus_m;540115 Wrote:
Hi,
I also tried to activate the access from my computer to the USB device
connected to the SB-Touch - but it does not work.
The sharing is activated in the SB (sharing Settings/Advanced/USBSD
Storage/Sharing) and I can see a very long name in the explorer under
My
Thanks. I appreciate everything below this line:
pippin;540295 Wrote:
To begin with, let's answer your question (although for the 4th time)
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Grahame;540275 Wrote:
As a starting point I'd suggest capturing the analogue output, and then
comparing with audio diff maker to establish that there is a measurable
difference.
See elsewhere on this forum for the use of audio diff maker.
I don't think this is going to work. You will
Grahame;540275 Wrote:
As a starting point I'd suggest capturing the analogue output, and then
comparing with audio diff maker to establish that there is a measurable
difference.
See elsewhere on this forum for the use of audio diff maker.
I don't think this is going to work. You will
pfarrell;540190 Wrote:
Daverz wrote:[color=blue]
This is the touch forum. Its hard to see how you need to adjust the
balance much if you are close enough to use the touch screen.
I see your problem. You assume everyone else uses things the same way
you do. My Touch is in my equipment
Daverz wrote:
I see your problem. You assume everyone else uses things the same way
you do.
Nice Ad hominem attack.
There is no balance control on my pre-amp, which is unfortunately typical
for many high
end pre-amps these days.
Correct, balance and tone controls have fallen out of
Are you using an external server or the builtin one?
How did you try and refresh the server? WebUI with external server,
menu item on the Touch etc.
I've done the move and rescan before with an external server without
any problems.
Is there a specific error message you get?
John S.
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JJZolx;540270 Wrote:
My experience has been similar. I'm not sure what's wrong, but it
doesn't work consistently.
I've noticed one case where the samba daemons had died. A reboot or
starting up TinySBS started them up again. I'm not sure what caused
them to go away.
If they have gone away
I'm working on a quick and dirty implementation of a balance control
right now. Its just going to be available from a Touch menu, no webUI,
no dedicated buttons on the IR remote, but you should be able to use
the arrow keys on the remote to navigate the menus and virtually push
the buttons.
I
With the 7.5.0 r8673 firmware you have to connect to mysqueezebox.com to
setup the controller. Did that phase happen? If you didn't see the
screen about email and password for mysqueezebox.com then you most
likely cannot make a connection to it. It might be a firewall issue.
John S.
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John,
Perhaps you can leverage one of the IR shortcuts that can be
programmed? e.g. Holding down the 4 or the 6 to move balance left or
right?
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pfarrell;540327 Wrote:
Nice Ad hominem attack.
An Ad hominem attack would be to call you a hater or buzzkill. I would
not consider the observation he made of your post an Ad hominem attack.
Just sayin'.
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Can Touch support or potentially support a USB DAC?
I'm seeing some references like snd_usb_audio that make me think it
might be possible.
I tried my iBasso D10 by just plugging it in and resetting the Touch
and trying to play something, but no joy. That's as far as I got.
Anyone have any
pfarrell;540327 Wrote:
Daverz wrote:[color=blue]
So the fact that your preamp is missing a feature that you desire
makes
you want it in your source devices?
This is an odd argument. Squeezeboxen are much more sophisticated and
complicated than a typical dumb source device. Considering
Daverz wrote:
This is an odd argument. Squeezeboxen are much more sophisticated and
complicated than a typical dumb source device. Considering the
complexity of the UI, a balance widget is pretty trivial.
As I wrote in response to you earlier:
I don't really care, when they do it is fine
Well, now I'm not having any trouble with 24/96 or 24/88 flacs. I tried
encoding some flacs with -8 and --best. No problem. But wav playback
stutters (not an issue for me).
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Potentially, yes, absolutely. Ask John Swenson, he's experimented with
this. Basically what's required is editing the ALSA configuration on
Touch to tell it to use the USB DAC. John noted that if you only make a
simple config change, you need to be sure to keep your DAC plugged in
(unplug it and
I have the same issue and stumbled onto this link in search of a
solution. In the few times I've noticed it, it's usually missing the
last couple seconds which would be a fade out and the next song kicks
right in. Just a hard edit. I tested the same ALAC files on my iPod
and it transitions
peterw,
Thanks for the reference. For whatever reason my search didn't turn up
the thread, but with the poster info I was able to find:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70407
Yes, the Dacport is supposed to be a very good USB powered DAC +
headphone amp. From the reviews on
toby10;540204 Wrote:
It should pluck these Applets from MySB.
Is your Touch able to log onto MySB?
No, I'm trying to install applets with just the Touch TinySC
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John,
I posted a duplicate thread because I didn't see this one. How is this
coming along?
I'd be interested in getting a Dacport working with the Touch:
http://centrance.com/products/dacport/
I also have an iBasso D10 to play with if you need some testers.
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Tony T;540367 Wrote:
No, I'm trying to install applets with just the Touch TinySC
Try to:
- Unplug the USB drive and play some internet radio station to make it
connect to MySB and try to go to the Applet Installer menu after that.
- If the above doesn't work, temporarily setup a SBS on a
Daverz;540355 Wrote:
This is an odd argument. Squeezeboxen are much more sophisticated and
complicated than a typical dumb source device. Considering the
complexity of the UI, a balance widget is pretty trivial.
That is what John S is cobbling together.
Buth others argue for a more
Then tell me something. What good is the touch? If it cannot serve as
the SBServer, then to me it is absolutely no better than my Classic,
Duet, or Boom. Furthermore, the primary reason I was convinced to make
this purchase was for its server capabilities. That I would no longer
have to be PC
pendletone55;540384 Wrote:
Then tell me something. What good is the touch? If it cannot serve as
the SBServer, then to me it is absolutely no better than my Classic,
Duet, or Boom.
For many people it's still better than the old devices even if you
don't use the server, for example:
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