Im using USB leads (supposedly rated at 2A) along with standard
multi-usb power supplies.
Seems to be working a treat and frees up a wall outlet.
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RadioClash wrote:
> Hey guys, I dug this power supply out of storage. I was using this many
> years ago with a Squeezebox 2, so many years ago that I have forgotten
> the reason why and if there were any audio benefits to using it. Is
> this supply okay to use with a Touch? Maybe the bigger q
Zombie wrote:
> Allegedly the Touch PSU is rated at 3 A to cater for USB discs
USB support for devices is what I recall but USB 2.0 power for disc will
only be 500mA which means Touch itself probably requires a minimum of
about 2A.
Also I recall older SB player PSUs such as for SB2 and early S
Allegedly the Touch PSU is rated at 3 A to cater for USB discs
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I think the Touch PSU is rated at 3 Amps so twice the current capacity
of the one you've dug out, I've seen reports of using 2 Amp supplies
with no issues but I've no idea if lower would continue to work
reliably.
Personally I can't vouch for any audio benefits - I'm not that kind of
listener :D
Hey guys, I dug this power supply out of storage. I was using this many
years ago with a Squeezebox3, so many years ago that I have forgotten
the reason why and if there were any audio benefits to using it. Is
this supply okay to use with a Touch? Maybe the bigger question, should
I even bothe
Stratmangler wrote:
> Get a DC lead extension cable - the connector for the Touch is 2.5mm
> internal diameter :)
Exactly what I wanted to hear... I didn't know the diameter. Have just
ordered some on ebay. Bonus too as they have a right angled fitting that
plugs in the back of the SBT. Neater!
Get a DC lead extension cable - the connector for the Touch is 2.5mm
internal diameter :)
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bpa wrote:
> Although similar to using an extension lead - you could by a replacement
> AC plate to give an IEC "8" socket (
> http://eu.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Phihong/RPX-03-R/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMuep2RzTrr6lRf3szfKSCHjo6li0gT8pQc%3d
> ) and then buy a normal IEC "8" AC . This makes the SBT PS a bri
Although similar to using an extension lead - you could by a replacement
AC plate to give an IEC "8" socket (
http://eu.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Phihong/RPX-03-R/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMuep2RzTrr6lRf3szfKSCHjo6li0gT8pQc%3d
) and then buy a normal IEC "8" AC . This makes the SBT PS a brick in
the middle but
I would like to mount my SBT about 2 metres (6 feet) away from the
nearest wall power socket. I would prefer not to use an extension lead
between the wall socket and the power pack. Anyone have any thoughts on
extending the lead between the power pack and the SBT?
Cheers, David
alexlark;651487 Wrote:
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> Im not sure if i can measure under load.
>
> The original adaptor output 4.90v when not under load.
Exactly I have not measured mine, ill bet it's not the same as yours :)
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Thanks for the reply.
Im not sure if i can measure under load.
The original adaptor output 4.90v when not under load.
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1. You measured this adapter unloaded try to measure during load .
2. Is it regulated or not, see 1
3. Measure the Original PS to compare .
I don't think it matters at all, but i can not guarantee (nobody can )
.
Imho if it where designed with such tight tolerances 1/2 of them would
have blow u
Hi, Ive got a spare power adaptor that i want to use with the touch. its
rated at 5v 3A. Ive measured the output of this adaptor with a
multimeter and its approx 5.10V to 5.20. The touch powers up and works
fine. all i want to know is if this is ok to use? i dont want to stress
the touch and poss
Can you try it and report any improvements please?
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nicoleif;536514 Wrote:
> When you write 'It doesn't make any difference' your point is that there
> is no danger in using the Danbit supply?
Correct.
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Phil Leigh;536509 Wrote:
> It doesn't make any difference. Devices only draw as much current as
> they need. Current and voltage are different...
When you write 'It doesn't make any difference' your point is that
there is no danger in using the Danbit supply?
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nicoleif;536502 Wrote:
> Just noticed that the Danbit power supply actually is 4A/5V! How will 4A
> instead of 3A work for the touch?
It doesn't make any difference. Devices only draw as much current as
they need. Current and voltage are different...
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You want to see the signal
Just noticed that the Danbit power supply actually is 4A/5V! How will 4A
instead of 3A work for the touch?
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Mnyb;536487 Wrote:
> it is evn the same conector, but touch uses an 3 amp supply , so Touch
> supply is a drop in replacemt for SB3 supply but not always the other
> way.
>
> NB i use an 2.5A supply from CIA ;) I would probably be in truoble if I
> conect an USB drive or something.
Thanx. I thin
nicoleif;536484 Wrote:
> I have some time ago "upgraded" my SB Classic with a 5V/2A regulated
> power supply (a Danbit) which should result in a somewhat significant
> gain in resolution. Does the Touch also use 5V/2A power supply so that
> I can switch the power supplies using the Danbit for the
I have some time ago "upgraded" my SB Classic with a 5V/2A regulated
power supply (a Danbit) which should result in a somewhat significant
gain in resolution. Does the Touch also use 5V/2A power supply so that
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fgj;530048 Wrote:
> How can I see the difference between an old noisy SB3 PSU and a newer
> less noisy (standard) one?
That's a good question, with no simple answer.
The recognised methods are:
1) use an RF/EMI sniffer - I have one that was made by Russ Andrews
years ago but I don't know if the
Phil Leigh;529913 Wrote:
>
> Finally, returning to the original theme, the old noisy PSU's are
> easily replaced with new ones. However, people should really take a
> look at ALL the similar ones they might have in their houses:
>
> 1) any computer PSU
> 2) Routers/switches/hubs/modems etc
> 3)
People are still going to buy tweaked power supplies. Why? Because
they are available and audio is an addiction. It needs no logic. :-)
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Phil Leigh;515736 Wrote:
> Ultimately the performance is limited by the internal voltage switching
> of the SB itself and that VFD which is a noisy component.
>
>
Phil-
I understand from this that you would agree that some of the commercial
mods that alter the internal electrical supply/swit
shevans;527928 Wrote:
> Just as the majority of the industry is also hung up on specifications
> :)
Not so much these days... the golden era of specs was the 70's
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Phil Leigh;527921 Wrote:
> Ears are indeed a very good test tool.
>
> Unfortunately, one's ears are somewhat hampered in this respect by
> one's brain.
>
> The entire high-end audio industry is based on the idea that we hear
> what we want to hear...
Just as the majority of the industry is al
shevans;527900 Wrote:
> Absolutely, its all about what you can hear, not what figure are given
> by a piece of test equipment. If it sounds better to you and you are
> happy then no one should spoil your enjoyment.
>
> I bought a TeddySB3 PSU, slightly modified to provide a higher current
> outp
goopie;527665 Wrote:
> I am trialling a King Rex Power Supply for the Squeezebox. It's made in
> China specifically for the Squeezebox. It's being passed around the
> local audio community for evaluation, a Beta test if you like, prior to
> it being released in Australia. I've read the various th
goopie;527845 Wrote:
> There is no longer a Squeezebox Classic forum. This thread is about
> power supplies.
There never was a Classic (or Transporter) Forum.
So, you are using an SB3?
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There is no longer a Squeezebox Classic forum. This thread is about
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goopie;527665 Wrote:
> I am trialling a King Rex Power Supply for the Squeezebox. It's made in
> China specifically for the Squeezebox. It's being passed around the
> local audio community for evaluation, a Beta test if you like, prior to
> it being released in Australia. I've read the various th
I am trialling a King Rex Power Supply for the Squeezebox. It's made in
China specifically for the Squeezebox. It's being passed around the
local audio community for evaluation, a Beta test if you like, prior to
it being released in Australia. I've read the various threads here on
power supplies f
^ Wow Phil, thanks for sharing your findings and info :)
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baardbaard;517162 Wrote:
> Lets look into some measurements with audible effect from John
> Atkinson:
>
> The Squeezebox's frequency response (fig.1) showed a slight
> shelving-down at low frequencies that might just be audible given the
> wide range covered. (this has nothing to do with SMPS
Let’s look into some measurements with audible effect – from
John Atkinson:
The Squeezebox's frequency response (fig.1) showed a slight
shelving-down at low frequencies that might just be audible given the
wide range covered. (this has nothing to do with SMPS).
Now to something that may be effec
baardbaard;516644 Wrote:
> So who are you guys to criticize me and other for hearning that PS make
> a difference? I think you guys have to work with your attitude. I cant
> se why my opening statement possible couldnt have offended you when you
> read what other well regarded web sites write a
iwannatouch wrote:
> I'm sure I'd hear a difference if I spent $300 for a power supply.
Much more cost effective is $300 worth of acoustic treatment for your room.
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I'm sure I'd hear a difference if I spent $300 for a power supply.
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Contact Ben Duncan, at Ben Duncan Research
http://www.benduncanresearch.com/
bd...@dial.pipex.com
He wil be glad to help you out.
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h.rav;516875 Wrote:
> ^ do you have or can you find any measurements done that show a
> 'superior' power supply improves the Squeezebox' SQ?
p...@paulhynesdesign.com will be glad to tell you...
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^ do you have or can you find any measurements done that show a
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I give up - you win.
Now to something else - I contacted Paul Hynes this morning and ordered
his SR3-05.
http://www.paulhynesdesign.com/index.html
"The SR3-05 can supply 5 volts at 3 amps. It is also my best power
supply for the SB3/Touch for musical enjoyment"
For the rest off you - I will ge
baardbaard;516644 Wrote:
> So who are you guys to criticize me and other for hearning that PS make
> a difference? I think you guys have to work with your attitude.
I see precious little difference between your opening snipe and the
"attitude" problem you accuse others of having.
And, since y
Phil Leigh;515913 Wrote:
>
> If you've come here for validation then you are in for a bunch of
> disappointment.
>
So who are you guys to criticize me and other for earning that PS make
a difference? I think you guys have to work with your attitude. I cant
se why my opening statement possible
Ianmac wrote:
> Why do people get so aggressive on this forum.
Probably because any discussion of the Touch, and any potential
"improvements" is 100% speculation at this point.
The product is not released. No one has one to measure except the Beta
folks who signed a Non-Disclosure Agreement.
>
baardbaard;516063 Wrote:
> Thanks so there are some fellow music lovers here. We have to do
> something about the brick wall :-)
I am an irregular poster on this forum for exactly this reason - a
brick wall attitude.
I have built a number of Linear power supplies for squeezebox and to my
and a
Why do people get so aggressive on this forum.
One member finds benefit from replacing a power supply and others say
he cant get any benefit.
Very few of us have access to the equipment to measure the output of a
squeezebox particularly the jitter on the SPdif output, but we all have
ears that c
The CIA PSU would probably work under certain circumstances.
Touch can also feed 5V trough it's USB port, and then it can power a
2,5" hardisc that don't have any external PSU .
So if one don't ever connect any thing that needs a lot of power on the
USB
I don't think all that 3 amps is needed, s
Mnyb;516001 Wrote:
>
>
> Anyway, this is little off topic.
>
> Don't do business with wellbourne he is con artist and have ripped off
> many people, including me.
> When business is bad hes just taking your money and do not deliver
> products, after a while when you emailed he lies and says it
RadioClash;515985 Wrote:
> Most of us are with you Baard. We know what we hear. We've just
> learned over the years on this forum that there is no sense in arguing
> with a brick wall.
Thanks so there is some fellow music lover here. We have to do
something about the brick wall :-)
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Is this not 100% troll posts ? the OP's manner is very troll like.
Anyway, this is little off topic.
Don't do business with wellbourne he is con artist and have ripped off
many people, including me.
When business is bad hes just taking your money and do not deliver
products, after a while when y
Most of us are with you Baard. We know what we hear. No sense in
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Phil Leigh;515913 Wrote:
>
> If you've come here for validation then you are in for a bunch of
> disappointment.
Almost as nice as mine opening
>
> Look let's put the cards on the table. You bought the over-priced
> Welborne supply. Good for you. It will provide an improvement to the
> sto
baardbaard;515638 Wrote:
> The SB3 is packaged with a very wimpy and noisy switching power supply
> that inhibits its true potential.
baardbaard;515904 Wrote:
> Oh boy - here we go again.
Again? Not terribly surprising if you always start your threads with
unqualified and opinionated statement
baardbaard;515904 Wrote:
> Oh boy - here we go again.
Post #5 - what do you mean "again"?
If you've come here for validation then you are in for a bunch of
disappointment.
Look let's put the cards on the table. You bought the over-priced
Welborne supply. Good for you. It will provide an improv
Oh boy - here we go again.
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baardbaard;515895 Wrote:
> For heavens sake cant you read between the lines? There is more to
> powers supply design then current capability. Thats why some off us
> have abandon el-cheapo SMPS
>
>
>
> You really put a smile on my face with that on I dont have too. I
> have golden ears.
baardbaard;515895 Wrote:
> I have golden ears.
>
> I started this thread with a simple question could you please stay on
> topic?
No you didn't, you started with a highly opinionated statement
expressed as a fact, then you asked a question which has had an answer.
Phil has at least shown hi
For heavens sake cant you read between the lines? There is more to
powers supply design then current capability. Thats why some off us
have abandon el-cheapo SMPS
Phil Leigh;515736 Wrote:
>
> By the way, I'm happy to debate this point. I've measured the audio
> performance of the SB3 with d
baardbaard;515735 Wrote:
> Wimpey, flimsy, under powered etc
..are you sure you want a debate on
> this topic meaning there is no point in upgrading the SB3 power supply
> from an audiophile point of view?
>
> Or was it just my way of describing the standard PS unit that was
> difficult for you
Wimpey, flimsy, under powered etc
..are you sure you want a debate on
this topic meaning there is no point in upgrading the SB3 power supply
from an audiophile point of view?
Or was it just my way of describing the standard PS unit that was
difficult for you to overcome?
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baardbaard;515638 Wrote:
> The SB3 is packaged with a very wimpy and noisy switching power supply
> that inhibits its true potential.
>
> - I have an aftermarket PS for my SB3 - can I use it on Touch?
> - What is the DC requirement for the Touch?
>
>
> Baard
In your opinion. This is not backe
Nice, I can re-use this PS from:
http://www.welbornelabs.com/squeeze.htm
ratet 5V and 4A
Baard
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baardbaard;515638 Wrote:
> The SB3 is packaged with a very wimpy and noisy switching power supply
> that inhibits its true potential.
>
> - I have an aftermarket PS for my SB3 - can I use it on Touch?
> - What is the DC requirement for the Touch?
The only difference is that the power supply th
The SB3 is packaged with a very wimpy and noisy switching power supply
that inhibits its true potential.
- I have an aftermarket PS for my SB3 - can I use it on Touch?
- What is the DC requirement for the Touch?
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