Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Which Category Ethernet Cable?

2011-02-20 Thread guidof
soundcheck;612495 Wrote: Hi. In above mentioned review a german company called Meicord found out that a. the way a typical ethernet cable is terminated at the receiving end is causing severe reflections due to impedance mismatch b. that crosstalk effects might also have an impact

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Which Category Ethernet Cable?

2011-02-20 Thread soundcheck
guidof;612592 Wrote: Hi Klaus: Are you saying that the Meicord company both authored the review and found that its own unshielded cable bested all other (presumably non-Meicord) cables? Or am I missing something? Guido F. I'm not 100% sure about the sequence how things happened.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Which Category Ethernet Cable?

2011-02-20 Thread lcrim
I use Category 6 Enhanced 550 MHz TIA/EIA 568B.2 UTP Unshielded Twisted Pair which supports Gigabit connections. I did not want to run ethernet cable that lacked capacity in a few years. For short runs that aren't in walls or attics (ugh!) CAt 5 is fine. As long as shielding is avoided as that

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Which Category Ethernet Cable?

2011-02-20 Thread ralphpnj
If you're going to stick with wireless then you might want to consider getting an air purifier along with an air ion realigner since purified air with correctly aligned ions will result in much better sound quality when using any Squeezebox device via a wireless connection. Now as most of you

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Which Category Ethernet Cable?

2011-02-20 Thread PVM
Hi, I had to re-wire my house a few years ago and so had to lift up floorboards, chase walls etc, etc. I decided before I started, to network the whole house with CAT6 utp and coax. I am so glad I did as HDbaseT is on its way and I cannot wait until the day I can have Ethernet powered speakers in

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Which Category Ethernet Cable?

2011-02-17 Thread Covenant
I have just connected up my Touch with Cat6. Its a lot thicker than the Cat5 so, I would think, is less prone to damage. The cost difference was minimal. -- Covenant Covenant's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Which Category Ethernet Cable?

2011-02-16 Thread Stephen
Heh, heh. I was trying to convince myself to try some expensive cables of the Cat7 or 6 variety, irritated by occasional noise issues. Then I told myself I had to come here to clear my head. I bought the sub-$1 cable at Monoprice. Oh, it's still Cat6, but I think it was 76 cents. -- Stephen

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Which Category Ethernet Cable?

2010-09-30 Thread guidof
Again, thank you all for a most informative discussion! So far, my wireless connection seems to work flawlessly and sounds excellent. This seems to suggest I should stick with it and thus avoid drilling into floors and walls -- unless problems with wireless crop up down the line. But if I ever

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Which Category Ethernet Cable?

2010-09-29 Thread aubuti
scooot;579415 Wrote: i have to agree with aubuti,but if you want to spend a bit more money because you think more money means better then use cat6a u/ftp solid cable.regards scott. :-) And in the same vein, I should have said that cat7 also sounds the same as the other cats mentioned earlier.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Which Category Ethernet Cable?

2010-09-29 Thread Mnyb
Unshielded cat5 the Touch is no gigabit device anyway. If you are inside your walls and planning for the future maybe cat6 . Ethernet does not influence sound quality, if it did same files downloaded from different sites would sound different ;) -- Mnyb

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Which Category Ethernet Cable?

2010-09-29 Thread guidof
Mnyb, aubuti, iPhone, scoot: Thanks a lot for your recommendations! I may stick with wireless . . . Guido F. -- guidof *Front End*: Marantz TT 15S1 Turntable, Virtuoso Wood Cartridge; Cambridge Azur 840C CD Player; Oppo BDP--83 Universal Player; Squeezebox Touch Music File Player (digital

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Which Category Ethernet Cable?

2010-09-29 Thread nicklouse
guidof;579664 Wrote: Mnyb, aubuti, iPhone, scoot: Thanks a lot for your recommendations! I may stick with wireless . . . Guido F. why? wired is way more stable. -- nicklouse Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Which Category Ethernet Cable?

2010-09-29 Thread JJZolx
nicklouse;579749 Wrote: why? wired is way more stable. My wireless is perfectly stable. I never have dropouts streaming Flac to five different wireless Squeezeboxes plus a netbook used for web browsing. If the original idea was to move to a wired ethernet solution to increase sound quality,

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Which Category Ethernet Cable?

2010-09-29 Thread souwalker
I currently have my Touch wired. I had my entire house wired before I moved in. My wife was so impressed with the Touch, she wants one in the kitchen. That's the only place not wired! Where we intend to put the second Touch is only about 3 meters from where my router is behind a plasterboard

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Which Category Ethernet Cable?

2010-09-29 Thread eganders
aubuti;579574 Wrote: :-) And in the same vein, I should have said that cat7 also sounds the same as the other cats mentioned earlier. CAT-7 is inflexible, difficult to bend, cable. Unless your overhead calculations show that your 320Kbps audio stream needs over 100Gb+ of throughput, or you

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Which Category Ethernet Cable?

2010-09-29 Thread aubuti
eganders;579772 Wrote: CAT-7 is inflexible, difficult to bend, cable. Unless your overhead calculations show that your 320Kbps audio stream needs over 100Gb+ of throughput, or you just are thinking ahead - way ahead, CAT-6A cabling should be sufficient. Looks like my attempt at humor

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Which Category Ethernet Cable?

2010-09-29 Thread Mnyb
aubuti;579777 Wrote: Looks like my attempt at humor misfired. The point is that all ethernet cable has the same impact on sound quality: zero. And the corollary is that simple facts like that don't stop some people from spending more than necessary because of some perceived benefit that

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Which Category Ethernet Cable?

2010-09-29 Thread Pat Farrell
On 09/29/2010 11:32 PM, Mnyb wrote: If you are rebuilding indoor walls and running new conduits to run wires in etc, the cable cost is insignificant,btw is not any catX cable at all 1/1 of a high end cable anyway, unless the brand names have start selling audiophile ethernet ? One does

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Which Category Ethernet Cable?

2010-09-29 Thread Mnyb
Oh no audioquest has cat5e cable ;) Oh it's typical practice in sweden to have plastic tubes inside the walls for all cabling makes it possible to pull new wires if needed, even if you nowadays (with our Eu membership) probably are allowed to nail stuff directly to frames or old walls and then

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Which Category Ethernet Cable?

2010-09-29 Thread Mnyb
Mnyb;579782 Wrote: Oh no audioquest has cat5e cable ;) Oh it's typical practice in sweden to have plastic tubes inside the walls for all cabling makes it possible to pull new wires if needed, even if you nowadays (with our Eu membership) probably are allowed to nail stuff directly to

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Which Category Ethernet Cable?

2010-09-28 Thread aubuti
cat5, cat5e, cat6 all sound the same. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82269

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Which Category Ethernet Cable?

2010-09-28 Thread scooot
hi, i have to agree with aubuti,but if you want to spend a bit more money because you think more money means better then use cat6a u/ftp solid cable.regards scott. -- scooot scooot's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Which Category Ethernet Cable?

2010-09-28 Thread iPhone
guidof;579377 Wrote: (Sound quality is my main concern). Guido F. As long as its a Data Ethernet Cable it will work. And the cable has absolutely nothing to do with sound quality. Its being used for Digital Data not Analog Audio transfer. Data received is verified to be what was sent IE