stop-spinning wrote:
> (I'm assuming the Logitech Harmony range does not work over RF IP
> otherwise this would be my choice).
A Harmony hub based remote might work as hub could "talk" IR to Touch.
(https://www.logitech.com/en-us/products/harmony/harmony-companion.915-000239.html
)
Dhammavijaya wrote:
> Thanks. It did actually work well for years, but now the drive is not
> being recognised.
>
> I dont know anything about raspberry Pis but I am interested.
>
> My requirements would be just the basic needed to run a music system. It
> would need optical output, ideally a
More details needed.
Stuttering can be due to one or a combination of factors such as data
format (e.g.codec, Flac compression level), network
connection/buffering/configuration/loading (e.g. Ethernet direct wired
or via powerline or WIFI bridge, other simultaneous users of network
such as
A faulty or failing WLAN card can produce symptoms described even if
WLAN card is not being used.
Top 3 "fails" with SB Classic.
* PSU
* Faulty or badly seated WLAN card
* Caps.
WLAN card failure can be tested by removing the WLAN card only requires
a Torx T10 - SB classic will work OK
Avinunca wrote:
> I'll dig out my DAT machine which can output 48kHz
You could also just use an audio file - run it through something like
ffmpeg or sox and resample to 48Khz
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Man in a van wrote:
> I have no idea if installing lame will help, but why not try ?
If by disabling native and transcoding AAC to force use MP3 (using lame)
make the stream playable it means there is a side effect in the
conversion (e.g. sample format such as S24le vs s16le) as the encoded
Avinunca wrote:
> BBC fine at analogue outputs of SBT.
Since audio plays OK with analogue - the issue is in compatibility
between SBT and DAC.
What internet streams work OK with the DAC connected to SBT
Can you give the URLs of the station that work.
What are the settings for the player in
Man in a van wrote:
> @'*Avinunca*[/URL
>
> For France Musique you may need this in the Additional Repositories box
> at the bottom of the Plugins page
>
> [URL=\"http://bpa-code.github.io/bpaplugins/repo-playhls-v2.xml\"]http://bpa-code.github.io/bpaplugins/r
Nothing unusual in system info.
For completeness - what are the settings for AAC under WebUI
Settings/Advanced/Filetypes.
Please confirm the BBC Stream play OK when listened through analog
connections (Phono or headphone) of SBT ?
Avinunca wrote:
> The DAC will support 48000 but I did nevertheless try your suggestion.
> Unfortunately it didn't help.
>
> I have also tried listening to France Musique without success. I usually
> listen to it on my Roberts radio with an AAC stream.
More specific information is needed to
pputzer wrote:
> I've also noticed that the Touch is very allergic to 2.4 GHz wifi using
> 40 MHz channel width.
I think bonding didn't exist when Touch was developed. I suspect the
underlying components were designed to only expect 20MHz channels
mcoste wrote:
> Same thoughts here, how come multiple WiFi issues popup at the same
> time??
The player such as Touches and SB Classics are getting old and roughly
same age and age related issues such as PSU, WIFI and caps failures
start to show up.
Secondary issues is wifi standards have
More system & player details always helps
As a first step - try enabling the BBC Sounds settings "Hide the audio
sample rate from LMS. This can help with a specific transcoding issue on
devices that can't natively support 48000"
lnrvdk wrote:
> Yes, it is a christmas channel :-) A bit early I know! :-D
I think I've been able to get a satellite TV Christmas channel since
August !
lnrvdk wrote:
> Cool Thank you for that explanation. It is "Boney M Mary's Boy
> child", so it's not a problem with the Touch then.
slartibartfast wrote:
> You can play it from RadioNet. For some unexplained reason they are
> playing
> All I wasn't for Christmas is you by Mariah Carey in October
I think metadata - is stuck on Boney M
I assumed "Jule" is a a Yule channel.
Two Raw URLs
Tune-in uses
lnrvdk wrote:
> It's called Globus Guld Jul :-)
This looks to be a station and/or Tune-in issue.
The stream itself has "odd" meta data - the STREAMTITLE seems to be out
of sync (or not updated) with the tracks.
The stream itself http://media.wlmm.dk/jul dopes not have cover art.
If the
If the WLAN module is really dead and you need Wifi - thgen you can use
an external Wifi to Ethernet adaptor
Some user which had Wifi problems with Radio have used a Vonets VAP-11G
with success - powered through in line connection but with Touch you
have possibility of using Touch USB socket
Zombie wrote:
> Allegedly the Touch PSU is rated at 3 A to cater for USB discs
USB support for devices is what I recall but USB 2.0 power for disc will
only be 500mA which means Touch itself probably requires a minimum of
about 2A.
Also I recall older SB player PSUs such as for SB2 and early
I have a Touch working with a Netgear Orbi but it is the older model
Rxx50.
SB player do not work on 5GHz - so don't worry about settings for 5GHz.
You only need to change settings for 2.4GHz .
Disable the features that make them incompatible such as 40MHz Channel
bonding. You could aos try
Paul Webster wrote:
> I guess it would use most power if screen on at full brightness, show
> dancing VU meters and loud output via analogue.
>
> Edit: and WiFi
I think the a part of the high rating was required to support USB spec
and devices (e.g. disks) that may draw power.
Nomen Nescio wrote:
> Compal modem; TP-Link AP Archer C1200; TP-Link EAP225-Outdoor
>
> Other Touch has no problem at same place on WiFi.
If another Touch (with same f/w) works OK in exact same place, then
issue is h/w or PSU. Have you tried swapping PSU of "bad" Touch with
"good" Touch.
Nomen Nescio wrote:
> reset by little button done: no result.
> It plays (for the last hour) on ethernet. The Touch freezes and reboots
> on WiFi
>
> Cleaned PSU contact before reset with 'contact cleaner'.
This sounds like incompatibility with Wifi or else wifi module is
failing.
What is
Zombie wrote:
> The Touch is better than that.
> I can't tell the difference between a stock Touch and a Touch with
> linear PSU connected to a 450 euro DAC.
> Install the EDO applet for 24/192 in the Touch (what 24/192 would be
> good for I don't know)
IIRC the Touch internal DAC does not
Don't know the details of MQA.
Look at this thread as one user seems to say it is possible for MQA
files with LMS on a Pi. Touch has hardware limitation so MQA may not be
possible.
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109269-LMS-and-MQA
However - this thread seems to indicate that
As well as setting up static IP on the player itself, could you have
reserved an IP address in Router which router would then allocate using
DHCP.
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daleyb wrote:
> Hi all
>
> A couple of years ago I bought a small remote for my SBT. (see link)
> think I got it from Fleabay or Bezos Store..
>
>
You can do a search of the forum, there are dozens of thread about Tidal
recently stopping for users.
SB devices do not support https. This is probably your problem.
Tidal has moved to use https in some countries.
If you are unlucky then you have to have local LMS system to handle the
pixx wrote:
> I try to connect my Squeezebox Touch with that command in the Mac
> terminal:
>
> ssh -l root 192.***.***.**
>
> The response is:
>
> Unable to negotiate with 192.***.***.** port 22: no matching key
> exchange method found. Their offer: diffie-hellman-group1-sha1
>
> Why
hankhsucc wrote:
> Thank you for the info.
>
> But I am not asking the max sample rate supported by Touch.
>
> I want to know the real-time sample rate from Touch.
I think you are mixing up "sample rate" and "bit rate"
Sample rate is the number of audio sample per sec to make up audio
nitrous wrote:
> But would I be able to utilise my current arrangement of LMS on my
> Synology NAS instead of needing a raspberry pi?
You should be able to install the Radionet plugin on any recent LMS (i.e
7.9.* or 8.*).
However Radionet site uses https so you'll need up to date LMS -
Lestrad wrote:
> Thanks! No, Sir, I'm strictly wired. All Cat-5 or above cable, no long
> runs.
Plase clarify is LMS on Win7 or on Wandboard ?
If it is on Win7 then it may be worthwhile upgrading to LMS 8.*, it has
many bugs fixes including a few Windows specific I/O scheduling ones.
netchord wrote:
> i think it will fix the WiFi problem; the question is will the Touch
> recognize it via the USB input.
Unlikely.
Touch kernel is old so any driver for a USB device will have to be of
the same vintage as the kernel, so chipset in USB stick would have to be
compatible and
Touch runs a cut down LMS as a server to fit memory and processor power.
So no plugin, no web UI and if you plan to serveryour 4xSB3s and 3xSBBs
from Touch - I wouldn't try it.
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>From Radio.net - try
venice : https://uk2.streamingpulse.com/ssl/vcr1
Swiss jazz : http://stream.srg-ssr.ch/m/rsj/mp3_128
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garym wrote:
> Why not? The Mac running LMS is connected via wifi to router (one hop),
> then TOUCH is connected to same router via WIFI (second hop). Wouldn't
> this be a double hop?
> (OP tested this, when he wired the Touch, buffering went away).
OK - sorry you're right. I was think along
artmaltman wrote:
> Thinking about this overnight I realized that I have at least two
> creative solutions that will avoid the double wifi hop:.
If you get rebuffering when playing *files* from LMS - then double hop
is *NOT* the issue.
artmaltman wrote:
> Does the Touch have compatibility issues with some modem/routers?
> Is there a network setting on the Touch that I might have overlooked?
> Never had wifi problems at all ever in the several years I've been in
> this home.
Rebuffering could mean either Wifi capacity to
artmaltman wrote:
> QUESTION: what's changed other than Logitech obviously dropping support.
> Per the forums, it looks like there is a huge community continuing to
> update the software and loving these units. Does the old functionality
> still exist? New functionality? Should I be running
and it will not be volts that matter (as USB is standard ) but amps.
If Touch cannot deliver enough amps you'll need a hub.
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You may first want to help out with the community build firmware for
Radio as you can share knowledge as there is commonality
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111663-Community-Build-Radio-Firmware
Did you look at the wiki for Fab4 - code name for Touch, Baby was code
for Radio,
radish112 wrote:
> The switch is a simple Netgear GS605 unmanaged switch, with 5 ethernet
> ports and no "uplink port."
I had one of these - they have a Auto Uplink feature which learns where
the up link is - IIRC in practice this means while unit is powered on
make sure the uplink port is
now I see that the Vortexbox is, as
> noted, the only one with a wired connection.
>
> If it helps for me to unplug and plug a device (wired Vortexbox? one of
> the wireless devices?) to see if the IP address changes, I can to that.
>
> bpa, you've done a day's work. Feel free to t
radish112 wrote:
> I don't know if it matters, but if you haven't followed this whole sorry
> saga you may be assuming that LMS is running on my Windows machine,
> whereas it is on a VortexBox "appliance" that is connected to my router
> via Ethernet.
I had guessed that as I think Vortex is
radish112 wrote:
> Using Putty on my Windows 10 computer, I enter the IP address, and a
> Putty window opens. But no information request appears regarding "host
> key" or "no matching key exchange method found", etc.
>
> What I get instead is "Network Error: Connection timed out."
Sounds like
radish112 wrote:
> bpa,
>
> I'm not very knowledgeable about wireless networks
> What information would tell me whether:
> 1. the router is acting properly relaying DNS requests?
> 2. the Touch is being blocked from internet access?
>
This would probably be something o
Can you ssh into the Touch ?
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radish112 wrote:
> mysqueezebox.com - DNS failed
The implication of the Wireless setup is Wifi is OK and DHCP is OK.
DHCP supplies the DNS address but lookup of mysqueezebox.com address
fails.
Is the router acting properly relaying DNS requests ?
Is Touch being blocked from internet access ?
There are two perspectives - Touch may see LMS but LMS may not see
Touch.
To check.
What does the Touch Settings/Advanced/Diagnostics Wireless Info and
Server Info say - all the details.
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teebee wrote:
> my duet is not stable and seldom start up so I'm looking into getting a
> used touch. Anything that can be trouble with touch that I should check
> out before buying?
By Duet I assume you mean the Receiver part. PSU is usually the main
cause of the problem. Otherwise duet are
Check out the thread "how to open up the squeezebox touch"
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?78244-how-to-open-up-the-squeezebox-touch
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vajim wrote:
> I'm still having problems with this. I was able to install the PlayHLS
> app in the LMS but its version 1.1.where/how do you get ver. 2.3?
Use the URL I provided in the previous post
http://bpa-code.github.io/bpaplugins/repo-playhls-
Strychnine wrote:
> I have Logitech Media Server version 7.7.6. (via the Logitech Media
> Server page)
>
> I have my server set to let me know if there has been an update but it
> says this^ is the latest version.
>
7.7.6 is the last LOGITECH supported version of the Squeezeboxserver but
oldius wrote:
> Is there any way of enhancing the bitrate of the 'Listen Live - Non UK'
> feature?
> I note a maximum rate of 101bps rather than the UK 320.
Not really. BBC geo limit non UK to typically around 96k-128k depending
on codec.
Best data rates are found playing DASH format so make
-plugin-to-play-Apple-HLS-m3u8-stream
The WFOS stream was not playable with earlier V2.* versions as it has a
video stream (which is just a blue square and so waste bandwidth) .
To install plugin use the repository URL for the plugin
http://bpa-code.github.io/bpaplugins/repo-playhls-v2.xml in
There's a hot fix on mysqeezebox.com working its way through.
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slartibartfast wrote:
> The Touch doesn't have a built in speaker.
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
IIRC original Touch had a micro speaker and a microphone. Don't know if
they got omitted in later production runs.
slartibartfast wrote:
> Does iHeart radio work in the UK?
>
> Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk
The iHeart plugin is just a directory using iHearts feeds. Whether a
station plays or not is up to the station. That said - I can't remember
a station that didn't play. IIRC the mobile iHeart
Mushroom_3 wrote:
> If bpa is still reading this post, the iHeart radio plugin is showing
> "incompatible with this version of LMS" My version is 8.0 - 1582191382
iHeart issues are best address on the iHeart thread.
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?108466-ANNO
;Additional Repositories"
label. Make sure you copy the full URL and not the text present which
has ellipsis "..."
The iHeart repository URL is
http://bpa-code.github.io/bpaplugins/iheartradio-repo.xml
The PlayHLSv2 U
ews2k wrote:
> Got it! Found it within 20 seconds today, after having searched through
> all the radio stations last night unsuccessfully.
>
> Australia - New South Wales - Sydney - By Genre - Classic Hits - 101.7
> WSFM
>
> First one on the list - but was not there last night.
>
> Their
toby10 wrote:
> However I believe even using LMS would be of little use in regards to
> internet radio streaming if/when MySB.com finally shuts down. Your
> player connects to LMS and LMS connects to (uses and is dependant on)
> MySB.com.
I think you can check out possible limitations by
ews2k wrote:
> Food for thought... I have a spare raspberry Pi that I can set up for
> the job. PiCore apparently an application that runs with the Linux OS of
> the Pi. What version OS would you recommend for the Pi? (I am absolutely
> useless with Linux, I have to admit).
>
>
> -Eric
If it
Because it is depending on mysqueezebox.com and playing stations &
podcasts direct from the source - there is a growing issues of https
URLs. There is a growing number of stations /sources which are moving
over to https ONLY URLs and SB Touch & Radio cannot play https directly
- a local LMS
Tuneman wrote:
> Don't know how to see it displayed on the Touch itself but on the LMS it
> shows Bitrate, Sample Rate and Sample size. That is the only way I have
> been able to view this information.
Try "More Info". For file , it is found from long press on item in
playlist
With your LMS is already up & running, unplug your TOuch and then power
on Touch - does it autodiscover your LMS server ? and you are able to
reconnect with your LMS music library ?
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gorlando wrote:
> I have can't ping as well
Please clarify what you mean here ? it is ambiguous.
> I have only SBT so I guess the music flows through it,
"Guess" ? Is the music coming through speakers attached to the SBT ?
On SBT Settings/ Choose player - what is shown on the display ?
gorlando wrote:
> 192.168.0.100
> 255.255.255.0
> 192.168.0.1
> 192.168.0.1
Those look OK as long as router is 192.168.0.1 and it has a DNS server.
Are you using DHCP for SBT ?
What is the IP address of the LMS ?
Check ping failure of mysqueezebox.com is OK as my SBT connect to my LMS
and
gorlando wrote:
> At the Check Network, it replies: Ping mysqueezebox.com (34.244.198.169)
> not ok
> At the Repair network, it replies the same
>
> Meanwhile I'm listening to my music, selected via the web remote
> control, without any glitch or issue...
What are the following network
The "soft" finish which was used on the lower panel of Touch, some SB
remote and Boom - deteriorates with time - I don't think use of any
cleaner is the direct cause.
isopropyl alcohol can remove it but with some elbow grease.
There are other stronger products which remove it quicker such as
toby10 wrote:
> Try Touch connected directly to MySB.com (no PC). I realize Spotify
> won't work but look for high bit rate stations as bpa suggests.
And neither will Radio Paradise Flac work, but then again AFAICT Radio
Paradise Flac is known for problems (see
https://forums.slimdevic
What is your setup ?
What type of server / OS /processor memory ?
What version of LMS ?
etc.
Can you play "normal" high data rate (around 320kb) MP3 or AAC streams
without rebuffering ?
Is the problem limited to Spotify Premium and Radio Paradise ?
slartibartfast wrote:
> I do notice that after rebooting LMS I can see the backlight of the
> Touch is on even though the screen is meant to be off. Does Powersave
> prevent that happening? If it does I might try it.
IIRC All screensave and light/on/off are done within Touch. A LMS plugin
Don't think so. See
http://diyparadise.com/blogs/2010/05/08/opened-up-the-squeezebox-touch/
and the linked Swenson post.
If you need Wifi - you could setup a nano router router in reverse
AP/Client mode and plug it into Touch Ethernet port.
hevymac wrote:
> I keep my pc and SBT in the same room, here in Japan we dont have much
> space.
>
> I dont want my stupid pc being noisy while I listen to music. Also, I've
> been building pc since 1999, I find them stressful and enjoyable. But I
> don't want stress during listening sessions.
Dalkinn wrote:
> Yes, I did. My 5 Ghz band did have a conflict so I changed that but the
> 2.4 Ghz band that the Touch uses was clear of the neighbor's network. It
> was set to auto but the current state is that it's conflict-free and
> still shows the wifi symptoms.
If router is on auto -
Dalkinn wrote:
> Unfortunately, also as Tuneman described the problems resurfaced a day
> later.
Did you check for nearby wifi networks ?
Is your router setup to do "auto" channel selection ?
Some routers on "auto" will test & may then change channel about once a
day.
Alternatively it is
Signal strength does not mean signal quality.
If another source is on same or close to same wifi channel
(e.g.neighbour wifi, microwave, faulty fluorescent light) - signal
strength will still be the same but due to interference signal quality
will have deteriorated and so throughput can
Wapa wrote:
> My SBT skips to the next song in the middle of certain songs repeatably,
> and one of them is "Smoke on the Water":D.
>
> My two Squeezebox Radios on the same Logitech Media Server play the same
> song fine.
>
> You think that could be because of the power supply?
Could be
gellie wrote:
> Thanks. where do I find that?
Look in WebUI Settings/Information - Server IP Address
If the address changes from day to day - then dynamic IP address may be
the problem.
In which case the posts about DHCP and routers indicate how you might
make the servers's IP address remain
If using DHCP, check that LMS server IP address remains the same and has
not been given a new IP address when lease is renewed
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tongkhor wrote:
> FFmpeg version is 4.1.4
It worries me that you don't know how your installed PlayHLS.
URL should play with that ffmpeg version and Play HLS 1.1 - is the
plugin installed correctly ? Check WebUI / Setting / Advanced/
FileTypes - what are the HLS settings ?
What version is
slartibartfast wrote:
> Off topic but your URL works for me using the plugin PlayHLS v2.2.
> Uninstall your version and try that. You probably need to add this repo.
It should also work with PlayHLS v1.1 - I think there may be some other
issue involved. Perhaps check version of
If the OP is using TinyLMS (and not an externa LMS) which is the inbuilt
LMS of a Touch - then the problem is most likely the underpowered and
memory deficient Touch system.
IIRC TinyLMS struggles on the Touch as it is only capable of handling
relatively small libraries and trying to do
losinj wrote:
> Crossfade (Fade In) happens over a much longer period, so it's not that.
> Also I can go back to my old DAC and immediately there is no fade-in
> issue.
You could try increasind the audio startup time in WebUI
Setting/Player/Audio which is intended to giev DAC to get started.
There are no screen settings for Touch accessible through LMS WebUI
Player Setting
All screen & Screen saver setting are local to Touch & Radio player -
this is true for all Squeezeplay based player and is different from the
older IP3K player such as SB3, Transporter or Boom..
Trojka wrote:
> Indeed, it isn't at all. I'm sure it can be fixed in the LMS software
> though. I have about 5 DAC's in the house and they all respond the same.
> Is there some place on this forum for feature requests or issues?
I don't think it can be fixed in LMS as this depends on the PCM
JerryFireballMudflap wrote:
> Edit: So have any of you guys ever noticed these before? That was my
> main reason for posting the question.
Yes - showing my age - when beta testing the Touch !
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kidstypike wrote:
> Also, possibly speaker, microphone, there was supposed to be a proximity
> sensor too?
IIRC the original Touch h/w sensors were Ambient light, Proximity, IR
and Temp.
I think not all of these were populated on production boards.
peter4200 wrote:
> Hi forum
>
> I have just changed my home web server from http to https using
> LetEncrypt certificates. Almost everything works except my SB Touchs
> Image Viewer. Until the change I was able to see my photos and now I
> can't see them anymore. The only difference is the
knarf wrote:
> Nothing about connections between my server and Mysqueezebox.com.
>
> ok, i stopped to cry ;D because now it is like the first post on this
> thread
> .
The WIKI advice is for users who don't use an installer - AFAIK deb file
set up things like userids
It is not all bad. The
Part 2 - when LMS shows it is up & running.
Code:
The following modules are loaded after the second attempt:
File/Basename.pm => /usr/share/perl/5.26/File/Basename.pm
XML/Parser/Expat.pm =>
knarf wrote:
> Why to give extra info if it is the same issue?
>
> Tar ball do the same
>
> ALTERNATIVE!
This is what my normal Ubuntu x86 LMS (from github) with -D_startup
looks like. How does it compare to your output ?
Code:
knarf wrote:
> Ill try will the i368... maybe...
>
> I tell you in a few
>
>
> SAME THINGS
>
> Go ahead and give me an alternative to this!
>
> I give up this.
Use the Unix tar ball and then run from a command line with the
-d_startup option.
knarf wrote:
> Ive removed all.
>
> Restarted from scratch. Same things...
>
> Damn
I don't know Debian but perhaps there is something odd in the
installation process that others can comment.
I presume you are using the X64 deb file.
Have you tried using the Unix tar ball. It'll be more work
knarf wrote:
> >
Code:
> > tcp8 0 0.0.0.0:90000.0.0.0:*
LISTEN squeezeboxserver 328562
> tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:34830.0.0.0:* LISTEN
squeezeboxserver 341036
> tcp0 0
knarf wrote:
> OK.
>
> deleted all files, directories, groups and users about LMS.
>
> reinstalled using this
> http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Debian_Package#7.9.1_.2F_7.9.2
>
> can't start LMS
>
> tested with 7.9.1 and 7.9.2 downloaded on
> http://downloads.slimdevices.com/
>
>
knarf wrote:
> this night:
>
> Nothing on the firewall
If no sign of an outgoing connection from LMS on the firewall input -
then that indicates LMS connection request is not getting to IP gateway
or not leaving LMS system.
> with LMS installed on a windows, same things.
Since LMS works for
knarf wrote:
> Ill try something.
>
> I will install LMS on a Win7 (or 8) to try if the problem is the same.
>
> Ill tell you if it works
How about checking the firewall log for outgoing connection from the
LMS system ?
KeBul wrote:
> Yep, That's how I understand it, but his underlying OS on which LMS is
> installed can connect to internet - traceroute clearly showing he can
> ICMP to an Amazon server on the internet.
Older versions of LMS used OpenDNS but I checked current version uses
the host DNS server.
KeBul wrote:
> Yeah, edited my original reply after further investigation found just
> that.
>
> But I think it does prove he's getting clear of his network onto the
> WAN.
>
> Kev
My summary understanding of the issue.
The user has a Touch and a LMS server on the same LAN.
The Touch when
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