Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel group on identi.ca is no more

2013-07-19 Thread Stefano
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 1:33 AM, mtl...@member.fsf.org wrote: With identi.ca migrating from StatusNet to pump.io, all identi.ca have disappeared, including the Trisquel group whose activity you could see on the lower right corner of the trisquel.info website. Is there a plan to recreate this

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to completely remove LXDE and XFCE?

2013-07-19 Thread myself600
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Re: [Trisquel-users] How to completely remove LXDE and XFCE?

2013-07-19 Thread myself600
In theory, when you install a package that depends on some additional packages (even if not), APT calls a sub-process called apt-mark, which marks all the user selected packages as manually installed, while the dependencies are marked as automatically installed. Therefore, if you remove

Re: [Trisquel-users] Customizing Taskbar

2013-07-19 Thread gnuser
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[Trisquel-users] Privacy in Trisquel

2013-07-19 Thread dadix
I found something disturbing today. I wanted to delete a list of packages which can be used to track location of the user (geolocation). So I did this : sudo apt-get purge zeitgeist zeitgeist-core zeitgeist-datahub python-zeitgeist rhythmbox-plugin-zeitgeist geoclue geoclue-ubuntu-geoip

[Trisquel-users] Webm Support

2013-07-19 Thread gnuser
I have been trying to find websites where you can watch videos using html5 AND webm. I know Trisquel's Abrowser supports html5 in other formats, and I also know that using viewtube and such addons, we can watch videos on virtually any website, but: 1. H264, MP3, MOV, and other video

Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy in Trisquel

2013-07-19 Thread gnuser
hum that is actually a very important question. I don't have any answer but I also want to know that. One of the reasons (maybe the main reason) I chose trisquel was because I wanted to use a system that would respect me as a user (don't give my personal info away for example!). It could

Re: [Trisquel-users] Webm Support

2013-07-19 Thread onpon4
1. H264, MP3, MOV, and other video formats/codecs are proprietary. People who don't want to use proprietary software would be interested in avoiding those. This statement is false. The software Trisquel uses to play these formats is free software. The formats are *patented*, not

Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy in Trisquel

2013-07-19 Thread onpon4
That's not what geolocation is. Geolocation data is an optional feature of some image formats (JPEG, in particular; I don't know of any others) which tells where a photo was taken. I'm not familiar with GIMP, but the libraries you're worried about sound to me like libraries that GIMP uses

Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy in Trisquel

2013-07-19 Thread onpon4
If you think GIMP might be reporting geolocation data to someone, the source code is available; just read it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Customizing Taskbar

2013-07-19 Thread onpon4
I believe his classic joke about vi is: using a free software implementation of vi is not a sin [like using proprietary software], it is a penitence. Almost: that it is a penance is the usual joke.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy in Trisquel

2013-07-19 Thread myself600
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Re: [Trisquel-users] How to recognize non-free javascript

2013-07-19 Thread shiretoko
Ok, but librejs doesn't recognize perfectly free jquery stuff; I hope they will add a whitelist feature soon; or the possibility to allow single scripts instead of all scripts on the page.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozillas shumway probably solution for the flash problem?

2013-07-19 Thread shiretoko
Thanks for the clarification. Other parts of the code are licensed under the apache license; that seems to be ok, too. So I think this is really a project worth keeping an eye on it.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Webm Support

2013-07-19 Thread magicbanana
Indeed. In its default install, Trisquel actually ships free software codecs for those patented formats. That is why Totem (for instance) plays almost any video you throw at it. Mozilla does not want to take the risk to be into costly patent litigations. That is why its Web browser (and

Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy in Trisquel

2013-07-19 Thread gameboyab
Here is MAT, (Metadata Anonymisation Toolkit) I never tried it out, and I don't think it's in the Trisquel repos, but I'm pretty sure it's free[0]. [0] http://trisquel.info/en/forum/free-software-bitcoin-mining#comment-37845

Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy in Trisquel

2013-07-19 Thread gnuser
Well, it all depends on WHY one uses Trisquel. Some people actually want to follow the latest fashions and have social networking, apps integrated that know everything about them, all the whistles and bells, they just want to do that with free software. For those people there is nothing

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to completely remove LXDE and XFCE?

2013-07-19 Thread gameboyab
GNU's Not Unix! print Hello, World! I am practicing my markup skills.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to completely remove LXDE and XFCE?

2013-07-19 Thread gameboyab
Do you mean sudo apt-get autoremove lxde(or xfce4)?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy in Trisquel

2013-07-19 Thread onpon4
That article fails to mention something important when you're using only free software: it's free software running on your computer, so you can find out exactly what is happening by checking the source code. There is no window of opportunity for data to be sent somewhere else without your

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to recognize non-free javascript

2013-07-19 Thread onpon4
Honestly, I don't understand why LibreJS wasn't built as a fork of NoScript that adds the LibreJS features (namely the automatic allowing of certain scripts, the assistance with reading the Javascript files, and the assistance with finding contact information to complain about proprietary

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-19 Thread fourfreedom
The output is always empty. :/

Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-19 Thread fourfreedom
I have looked at OpenWTR and LibreWTR, but man - setting up something like this is really difficult for several reasons: - the documentation is horrible, maybe even incomplete - not all routers work, some only work partially - advanced IT skills required, due to the lack of documentation -

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to completely remove LXDE and XFCE?

2013-07-19 Thread D. A. H.
It's just sudo apt-get autoremove Do it after you've removed lxde and xfce.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy in Trisquel

2013-07-19 Thread gnuser
THANKS!! =D This is the same as I used to have in TAILS. Sweet. Too bad I can't make the program run, lol, but I am sure I will get around that in time xD

[Trisquel-users] Re : Webm Support

2013-07-19 Thread magicbanana
What you write is true. However, in my opinion, there is even a better reason to prefer patent-unemcumbered formats: the risk to not be able to play your files in the future using free software. Indeed, patent holders can sue the developers of the free software and force them to stop

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mozillas shumway probably solution for the flash problem?

2013-07-19 Thread gnuser
HUm it surely looks promising, but as I said in another thread, we should try to get rid of patented/proprietary/obfuscated stuff on the web. Instead of trying to promote the use of Adobe Flash files just because we can now load them, we should promote the move to html5/webm/whatever

Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy in Trisquel

2013-07-19 Thread gnuser
Sorry, I can't get it to work. The only thing it did at least for now, was taking a snapshot of the window I was at. Could you please try to run it in your Trisquel and tell me if you did so successfully? THANKS

Re: [Trisquel-users] Webm Support

2013-07-19 Thread gnuser
Yes, another reason adding to the 3 reasons I already gave. So, for example, I have been testing how much I can use the web without flash, gnash, etclash. and without any addons on the browser. Just good html5 running native. It's very very smooth. Of course, with Tor Broswer it's not the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Webm Support

2013-07-19 Thread gnuser
HUm Ok, I realize I had the wrong term there, those formats are patented no proprietary. I know Trisquel uses free software to play mp3. HOWEVER: due to patents on software formats/codecs, I still believe we should use open/free formats/codecs instead of patented ones. Why? 1. You want a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Webm Support

2013-07-19 Thread shiretoko
In your introduction thread, you mentioned not wanting to be an free only extremist. Now you're saying all the time: only using free software is not enough, we should even abandon every patented format. Of course we should reject patent encumbered formats; but I think your opinion is a bit

Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy in Trisquel

2013-07-19 Thread shiretoko
Now, I don't think Trisquel has back doors, but it might have some libraries that I might prefer to remove to further protect myself. And being free software, it's my right to do so =) You don't have to protect yourself from this libraries; many independent developers have read the code. If

Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-19 Thread mikko . viinamaki
The output is empty because it was redirected. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redirection_%28computing%29

Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy in Trisquel

2013-07-19 Thread mikko . viinamaki
I can't see any geo dependancy for GIMP. The indicator-datetime package does depend on geo however. This is the time/date applet on the panel. I believe this dependency has to do with the weather info functionality.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Old packages Trisquel 6

2013-07-19 Thread ja-key
i'm just saying, the Ubuntu main repos include and endorse proprietery software, and I don't want that.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy in Trisquel

2013-07-19 Thread onpon4
I get the impression that you are fearfully assuming that the free software in Trisquel is doing something malicious. This is a perfectly legitimate concern with proprietary software because you can't know what exactly it is doing, but you can know exactly what free software is doing. If

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to completely remove LXDE and XFCE?

2013-07-19 Thread mikko . viinamaki
However you should avoid doing that because I believe there is a bug in the mailing list integration and such hidden links are lost there.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to recognize non-free javascript

2013-07-19 Thread mikko . viinamaki
People can't seem to build web pages any more without boat loads of JavaScript these days... I realize it's tempting to offload to clients but it makes for a horrible user experience. And the webmasters just love the idea of the client swallowing any and all JS blobs they and their

[Trisquel-users] Re : Webm Support

2013-07-19 Thread magicbanana
Well, I would not refuse to read proprietary formats but I always choose patent-unemcumbered formats when available. As for distributing the files to other people (e-mail attachments, web site, etc.), I feel it is essential to propose a patent-unemcumbered format... but, to me, it looks even

Re: [Trisquel-users] Customizing Taskbar

2013-07-19 Thread mikko . viinamaki
I linked to FSF because I think many people on this forum have a high regard for their opinions. Here's another link for you http://stallman.org/facebook Free software is means to an end.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Ralink RT3070 USB wifi NIC wont work (device not ready in network manager)

2013-07-19 Thread aftermath5
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Re: [Trisquel-users] How to completely remove LXDE and XFCE?

2013-07-19 Thread onpon4
Another reason to avoid it: the forum software causes those links to break if they have underscores (it adds and to the link, breaking it). This is because of the forum software trying to add in an underline effect when underscores are wrapped around some text.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to completely remove LXDE and XFCE?

2013-07-19 Thread D. A. H.
I read this forum as a mailing list, and miss many links.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy in Trisquel

2013-07-19 Thread TralfamadorianOrator
You wouldn't need to read through all the code -- just look at the parts that use the libraries you're interested in investigating. For example, if you want to search for instances of 'libgeo' in the source, you might try running the following inside the root of the GIMP source directory.

Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-19 Thread myself600
I forgot to tell you that the (default) output location is your home folder (/home/matthias). Sorry about that. From which operating system you executed those commands (Ubuntu or Trisquel)? I am asking because the lspci command outputs slightly more information when executed on a system

Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-19 Thread myself600
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Re: [Trisquel-users] WiFi on Macbook Air 5-2 (13, 2012) not working

2013-07-19 Thread myself600
I would like to attach them into the WikiDevi device pages Done.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Old packages Trisquel 6

2013-07-19 Thread magicbanana
PPAs are not Ubuntu's repositories. The first P stands for Personal. That said, many PPAs do contain proprietary software and you must be careful to avoid them if you value your freedoms. The GNU PPA only contains free software though. It will certainly always be so (given that this PPA is

Re: [Trisquel-users] Re : Customizing Taskbar

2013-07-19 Thread Oral Floss
On 07/19/2013 09:40 AM, magicban...@gmail.com wrote: Stallman does *not* tell people not to use vi. He tells people not to use proprietary software. I believe his classic joke about vi is: using a free software implementation of vi is not a sin [like using proprietary software], it is a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Customizing Taskbar

2013-07-19 Thread gameboyab
'You can use any editor you want, but remember that vi vi vi is the text editor of the beast. I guess he is okay with people using vi, but he surely doesn't look greatly upon it.' That is a joke. VI in Roman numerals is 6, then 3x that is...

Re: [Trisquel-users] Customizing Taskbar

2013-07-19 Thread onpon4
The full joke is usually: Some people ask me if it is a sin to use the Other Editor, vi. It's true that vi vi vi is the editor of the beast, but if you use a free implementation of vi, it is not a sin, but a penance. This is just poking fun at the editor war.[1] I don't get the impression

[Trisquel-users] Make Vanilla LXDE look like Trisquel Mini

2013-07-19 Thread gameboyab
What asthetic changes would be necessary to make vanilla LXDE look the same as the default LXDE theme in Trisquel Mini? I am using Trisquel 6 that comes with GNOME Classic by default.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Remaining issues in Trisquel 6.0

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If I just wanted to get this adapter working first then what would I need to do? I don't see anything in the blacklist file that seems to be blocking me. I just want to test this adapter out before I spend any more money on it.