Re: [Trisquel-users] Free software alternatives to popular Wingdows software

2013-12-23 Thread wlqdqxvu
As far as I know there is NO equivalent to Microsoft Publisher. Some people have mentioned Scribus, but Scribus is the equivalent of a complete Desktop Publishing, say InDesign or Quark. Maybe LibreOffice Writer has some of the functions, but none of the templates. Also, you should think

Re: [Trisquel-users] Buying a Trisquel laptop in France

2013-12-23 Thread wlqdqxvu
It's not about signatures. It's about what comes AFTER the kernel. The init scripts. Also, each major distribution has a particular choice of drivers according to their policy. Some are tolerant with some proprietary code, some bundle code they're not supposed to. Minor derivates only work

Re: [Trisquel-users] Buying a Trisquel laptop in France

2013-12-23 Thread wlqdqxvu
Never took that into consideration. Chromebook means Google. And Google made Android. I have been suspicious from the start with the always positive attitude towards Android. Everywhere it is written Linux to imply FOSS, to receive a TiVo device with closed apps. This last year the news were

Re: [Trisquel-users] A question about electronic books

2013-12-23 Thread wlqdqxvu
I recall an Ukrainian maker doing some small (5) readers some years ago based on free software. Actually, like Android, ALL readers are based on free software. Only they put proprietary stuff on top to make sure you are locked away for good. Mostly is the Adobe junk, the major exception

Re: [Trisquel-users] gluglug thinkpad x60 w/ coreboot mini review

2013-12-23 Thread wlqdqxvu
The update is impressive. Will the new orders come with this new configuration?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why block Tor even for browsing?

2013-12-23 Thread wlqdqxvu
I run Tor on a few flavors of Win7, also Win XP and a couple of GNU/Linux distributions, including Tails. Even Tor I use in all its three states: alpha, beta and stable. To make things worse, some run with all scripts disabled, a few have extensions added. The firewall should block

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why block Tor even for browsing?

2013-12-23 Thread wlqdqxvu
Read only access doesn't fight spam?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why block Tor even for browsing?

2013-12-23 Thread wlqdqxvu
Sorry, but you seem to have a prejudice. I don't know a site for which the administrators have made a conscious decision to block Tor. Take Wikipedia for example. They block any open proxy they find out. That is their policy. And, as both code and text are free, anybody is free to make an

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why block Tor even for browsing?

2013-12-23 Thread wlqdqxvu
Again, thank you Andrew for the bug report. Being for the first time I had no idea Tor was Ok before. Now it's fixed. Cheers!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why block Tor even for browsing?

2013-12-23 Thread mikko . viinamaki
It's easy to deny (read AND write) or allow (read AND write) but would mean tinkering to allow read while denying write. I'm sure patches are accepted though.

Re: [Trisquel-users] My conceptual problem with my computer.

2013-12-23 Thread gnuser
I believe you are correct, but still it's the best choice if you need to run dos in a computer. And the project is very FLOSS minded so it's something that we should perhaps try to understand (it's DOS after all, you can't be picky with something that is older than ourselves :P) For the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Intel processor microcode security update for Trisquel

2013-12-23 Thread george . standish
see http://trisquel.info/en/wiki/trisquel-community-guidelines #5 Non-free software is never a solution so please do not rationalize, justify, or minimize the consequences of proposing non-free software as a solution.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Intel processor microcode security update for Trisquel

2013-12-23 Thread gnuser
1. Trisquel users are already running non-free software on their computers (Bios, etc). I hate to repeat myself. Please, throw away your computer now, you are running proprietary software. Don't try to rationalize, justify or minimize that fact. Throw your computer away now, and also

Re: [Trisquel-users] Proprietary software as result of psychological problems

2013-12-23 Thread aaz893
There are a lot of examples of absolute unethical actions. Human slavery is one of them Did you mean absolute unethical action ONLY in my book? I don't care what you do in your personal life, nor should you about what I do in mine. That's depends who are you and who is me. Because your

Re: [Trisquel-users] Intel processor microcode security update for Trisquel

2013-12-23 Thread george . standish
GNUser I really don't understand what you are doing in the Trisquel forums? If you are so happy with Debian, why don't you participate in that community? Why do you come here and advocate for Debian usage? When you repeatedly say: I'm using Debian and I consider it Free - that's basically

Re: [Trisquel-users] gluglug thinkpad x60 w/ coreboot mini review

2013-12-23 Thread stask
Latest Linux Action Show does a short segment on the gluglug. https://youtu.be/08HKcH2GguE?t=26m5s Overall positive, but they don't seem to get the subtle details and tend to focus on specs and refurb, but hey, it's a mention of a freedom option going out to a Linux audience.

Re: [Trisquel-users] A question about electronic books

2013-12-23 Thread virx61
It's not free software AFAIK, but I have a simple e-reader the cheapest K* from Amazon. It's an e-ink screen and I don't have it connected to the internet or registered to an account. PROS: you can easily load books onto it via its USB cable, which I get from sites like booksshouldbefree.com

Re: [Trisquel-users] Intel processor microcode security update for Trisquel

2013-12-23 Thread gnuser
So, you have realized that my argument was right and now instead of acknowledging that, you try to attack me (in my decision to use Debian and still be a part of this community) to make it look bad. That would be almost a ad-hominem fallacy. I have made my point. He who has hears, hear.

Re: [Trisquel-users] My conceptual problem with my computer.

2013-12-23 Thread aaz893
I don't think it's possible to understand a system to this extent. Why?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Intel processor microcode security update for Trisquel

2013-12-23 Thread george . standish
@GNUuser that was certainly not an attack, but an honest question (which you chose NOT to answer). I do NOT agree with your argument in this case, or the fact that you generally view so many posts as arguments (you vs. trisquel). I am honestly, confused, as you don't seem to share the

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-23 Thread sam . kuper
I tried ringing the telephone number given at http://shop.gluglug.org.uk/contact/ (01268 857 769), but received an automated voice telling me, You've dialled an incorrect number. Please check the number and try again.

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-23 Thread mikko . viinamaki
Uhm, are you in the UK as well? If not, you need to add the international call prefix. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_prefix

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: Intel processor microcode security update for Trisquel

2013-12-23 Thread simonhandel
I don't think that it was his intention to attack you nor does it sound like an attack. We are not your enimies!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Intel processor microcode security update for Trisquel

2013-12-23 Thread stask
The non-free BIOS--which is an issue for the majority of computers now available--has troubled me too as there are few (almost no) free options. In general you cannot buy a new modern computer to escape this problem. But how does that have anything at all to do with Trisquel, or Debian? It's

Re: [Trisquel-users] A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-23 Thread sam . kuper
Thanks, but yes, I used the appropriate prefix.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Intel processor microcode security update for Trisquel

2013-12-23 Thread mtlben
I've been deleting GNUser messages unread for a while, as he perfectly fits the definition of a troll (from wikipedia: In Internet slang, a troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages

[Trisquel-users] Re : A laptop earns FSF Respects Your Freedom certificate

2013-12-23 Thread junichiro
+44(0)1268 857 769 without the 0 should work.

[Trisquel-users] Trisquel team keep up the good work

2013-12-23 Thread wlqdqxvu
I keep reading about how free software *should* protect people from anything from the big bad wolf to the NSA. Probably is just a lack of education. In the race to get the latest, the biggest and the coolest diploma people with 6 to 20 years of schooling remain in ignorance on most issues

Re: [Trisquel-users] Intel processor microcode security update for Trisquel

2013-12-23 Thread wlqdqxvu
Yes, I am sure, because most people here do not have a computer with a free BIOS. That's why many people are interested in glug project and someone talked about getting a lemote. Almost everyone here who runs Trisquel, runs proprietary software, at least in the form of BIOs (even if not

Re: [Trisquel-users] A question about electronic books

2013-12-23 Thread wlqdqxvu
Maybe an older laptop with the appropriate readers and no outside connection would fit the bill. Ten times heavier. But with a 32GiB stick you can carry a few tons of books. Otherwise you can tweak some light distribution NOT to use the installed disks or the network hardware and that's

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel team keep up the good work

2013-12-23 Thread zatroch
Bravo aka faith in humanity restored post! Spoiler: Even killer-drones include GPLed stuff, be it of legacy v2. I wanted to touch gently the parent issue - as RMS puts this - software freedom itself ain't enough for the ruling class' evil deeds setback. Ordinary humans have to engage

Re: [Trisquel-users] Intel processor microcode security update for Trisquel

2013-12-23 Thread gnuser
I could argue that you first paragraph makes no sense and such... but the truth is that when someone writes As long as Trisquel keeps to the FSF philosophy, than they are taking THE BEST decisions. that person is to be considered a FSF parrot (kind of an internet troll) and it is useless to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel team keep up the good work

2013-12-23 Thread wlqdqxvu
I had no idea there is a CC 4.0. 3.0 fit me well. That is not a good reason. Back in the days when GPL v3 was fresh it was unclear why to upgrade. Years later I found out what TiVo was. I am still against the phrasing GPL vX and any later version.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel team keep up the good work

2013-12-23 Thread gnuser
While it is true that free software is about the 4 essential freedoms over the software, RMS himself has said that this is not just a technical matter. It is a social matter, free software should bring us a free society. And in a free society you can't have freedom unless you are free from

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel-libreplanet-2013 download and streaming link is dead ?

2013-12-23 Thread gramex
It's been three days. I can't believe transcoding would take this long.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel team keep up the good work

2013-12-23 Thread gramex
What are the major changes from CC 3.0 to CC 4.0?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Proprietary software as result of psychological problems

2013-12-23 Thread gramex
I consider liberation funds to be unethical. Are you talking about crowdfunding? I have written a program but have never released it. I will release it under the GNU GPL if you (the crowd) can raise $100,000. Is this what you mean? Nothing seems wrong about it to me.

Re: [Trisquel-users] My conceptual problem with my computer.

2013-12-23 Thread gramex
POSIX-type operating systems are very complicated.

Re: [Trisquel-users] A question about electronic books

2013-12-23 Thread alessi
You should read this: http://www.bookeen.fr/en/aboutbookeen; And this for one of the currently available models: http://www.bookeen.fr/en/cybook-odyssey-frontlight; The device is running Linux 2.6. It is easy to maintain and to upgrade. I think it is the best reader available out there.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Intel processor microcode security update for Trisquel

2013-12-23 Thread stask
ZykoticK9, I hear you re: the forum guidelines. True. But arguments aren't interesting?!! What about Jerry Springer? :) https://youtu.be/hCL36ogOFDo?t=2m7s A bit of conflict is good for the soul. So is laughter and lightening up now and then...

Re: [Trisquel-users] Front end for qrencode

2013-12-23 Thread gramex
If I run this, the dialog boxes pop up and work, but nothing gets saved. The script ends with this message: ./qrgui: line 21: (I'm not copying the script line for line; it means the line with qrencode on it.) qrencode: command not found. I know that qrencode is installed; I just used it on

[Trisquel-users] Free Clarendon!

2013-12-23 Thread LDrumbler
Remember this thread about setting proprietary typefaces free? And then this thread? It's finally happening! My campaign to turn one of the greatest typefaces of all time into free software is up and live! I aim to collect Canada Type's fee of $30,000 (I've set the goal higher for the sake

[Trisquel-users] Chromiumn

2013-12-23 Thread ngawangtrinlay
I came across this post (https://trisquel.info/en/forum/how-install-chromium-0) from 2012 and wondered if the issues have been resolved concerning Chromium and free software.

[Trisquel-users] Owncloud Client

2013-12-23 Thread ngawangtrinlay
In the Trisquel repos I could only find the Owncloud server package. So to add the client I had to add http://software.opensuse.org/download/package?project=isv:ownCloud:desktoppackage=owncloud-client to my package lists. Is the client something that should also be added to the Trisquel

Re: [Trisquel-users] Intel processor microcode security update for Trisquel

2013-12-23 Thread unknown . 10001 . notthis
You cannot trust proprietary developers. They say it's a security update, while in reality it could be the opposite. It's so naive to believe them, these criminals.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Intel processor microcode security update for Trisquel

2013-12-23 Thread george . standish
Jerry Springer... i hope you're joking ;) no, i don't find that interesting in the slightest (ps. i didn't check your provided YouTube link). Something I was today (on Pump.io) was an image with the following saying/quote: I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds

Re: [Trisquel-users] Free Clarendon!

2013-12-23 Thread gramex
What is special about Clarendon?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Free Clarendon!

2013-12-23 Thread LDrumbler
It's one of the oldest and most popular typefaces that survive today. That's why I chose it over Canada Type's other possibility, Informa Pro.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Intel processor microcode security update for Trisquel

2013-12-23 Thread gnuser
You know, you are kind of funny... You say I recommended non-free software in this thread. Mind to show us where I wrote that? If you will be so kind please... OR MAYBE you will read what I actually wrote that was this: -Everyone who is running Trisquel or Debian with a Intel processor is

Re: [Trisquel-users] Intel processor microcode security update for Trisquel

2013-12-23 Thread george . standish
4. I might be wrong, but I think you can add the non-free repository, reload the software list, install the Intel update, remove the non-free repository, reload list again, and you are back to having access to free software only. --- I have NO issue with you saying I, and i agree, probably

Re: [Trisquel-users] Intel processor microcode security update for Trisquel

2013-12-23 Thread george . standish
I also never said you should be banned (i think you should) - but I never said that. which i stated elsewhere in THIS thread. I just hoped you'd leave, and not return... I'm not going to debate this with you further - i view it as a waste of time. It's YOU now, that needs to read more

Re: [Trisquel-users] Front end for qrencode

2013-12-23 Thread george . standish
I'd try supplying the full path to qrencode

Re: [Trisquel-users] Chromiumn

2013-12-23 Thread adrian . malacoda
I don't believe it has. I don't think it is top priority considering we have several quality free browsers anyway; Abrowser (Firefox) continues to get better with each release.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why block Tor even for browsing?

2013-12-23 Thread adrian . malacoda
The user agent string is easily spoofed. I imagine spammers would be spoofing legitimate browsers anyway.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Front end for qrencode

2013-12-23 Thread gramex
It works now. I can't understand why that would make a difference. Is my shell script looking for qrencode in the working directory?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Front end for qrencode

2013-12-23 Thread george . standish
I'd guess that PATH= probably has something to do with it?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Front end for qrencode

2013-12-23 Thread gramex
I have qrgui working now. I'll do some final polishing, then post the final version.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Intel processor microcode security update for Trisquel

2013-12-23 Thread stask
sebelius, Yes. That is how it seems. When a security company is involved in the following type of activity, where should one go? To another proprietary vendor? Heck no! http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/21/us-usa-security-rsa-idUSBRE9BJ1C220131221?type=companyNews

Re: [Trisquel-users] Intel processor microcode security update for Trisquel

2013-12-23 Thread stask
Of course I was joking! Given the subject matter, not much is funny you know. Needed a break. :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Intel processor microcode security update for Trisquel

2013-12-23 Thread george . standish
/me breaths a sigh of relief. sorry, perhaps after reading/replying to GNUser today - I'm a little uncertain about everything regarding trisquel forums and it's user base ;) thanks for trying to lighten the mode - even if i failed to pick up on it. take care.

Re: [Trisquel-users] My conceptual problem with my computer.

2013-12-23 Thread aaz893
This is bait Really? You know, I don't eat meat(because it is unethical for me), but I think that meat is healthy and tasty. If I posted this opinion on vegetarian forum, then by your logic I'm a troll.

Re: [Trisquel-users] My conceptual problem with my computer.

2013-12-23 Thread aaz893
How about Ruben? Is he exception?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Front end for qrencode

2013-12-23 Thread mikko . viinamaki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PATH_%28variable%29 Better use another name for the variable.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Why block Tor even for browsing?

2013-12-23 Thread mikko . viinamaki
Some certainly would, some however won't. And I would bet a large majority of those who do, will use a windoze UA.