Re: [Trisquel-users] Purism Is Still Hoping To Build A GNU/Linux Free Software Librem Smartphone

2016-10-01 Thread infinityfallen
I've submitted a comment (also calling for EOMA68 compatibility). I have neither any hope of success nor any intention of forking out money for either a smartphone or something from Purism, but (I believe) we might as well try to steer this project towards something beneficial, given the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Automation, free software and moral duty

2016-10-01 Thread jason
Probably. The patent system is horribly broken. Best to get rid of it. But at least while it's around, don't use patents to create usage restrictions.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Automation, free software and moral duty

2016-10-01 Thread infinityfallen
What you say is correct. The argument against software patents used by the FSF isn't actually that they restrict user freedom, but that they create a web of vaguely defined 'no-go' zones which make it nearly impossible to implement anything without being at risk of a lawsuit. Patented

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread jbahn
CalmStorm: Did you ever access Trisquel after installation?

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread jbahn
CalmStorm, I have the same issue: After installing Trisquel on libreboot and trying to boot I get stopped by the "error: file `/vmlinuz' not found" message. And I've found no way of solving it yet. I have an 'appointment' with Leah Rowe, that she will guide me to a solution via #libreboot

[Trisquel-users] Re : Automation, free software and moral duty

2016-10-01 Thread lcerf
Well, I do not know much about the patent system in general. However, as far as I understand, patents in the physical cover precise technologies, described in precise terms, not any idea anyone has, like with software patents. So, if I am not mistaken, it is not like hundreds of (hardware)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Automation, free software and moral duty

2016-10-01 Thread jason
"dcapeletti is not talking about software" Yes, this is why I talked of the "free world", not of "free software." The same thing applies to free hardware. I used an OS only as an example. Usage restrictions on hardware should not be applied for the same reason in the free world.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Purism Is Still Hoping To Build A GNU/Linux Free Software Librem Smartphone

2016-10-01 Thread calmstorm
Well regardless of if you trust them at all, it all leads to a waste of time because they cannot do it even if they wanted to.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Purism Is Still Hoping To Build A GNU/Linux Free Software Librem Smartphone

2016-10-01 Thread calmstorm
Well regardless of if you trust them at all, it all leads to a waste of time because they cannot do it even if they wanted to.

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread calmstorm
well oddly enough only two different partitions will turn on.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Automation, free software and moral duty

2016-10-01 Thread lcerf
As far as I understand his reply, dcapeletti is not talking about software. He is talking about patenting the hardware. @dcapeletti: am I right?

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread mcz
That's just a guess, but maybe try to go in the /media folder and create a /usr folder, then try again (you'll most likely need to be as root user to do so). I don't know if it's supposed to be there by default or not, I can't remember exactly how it went for me.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Purism Is Still Hoping To Build A GNU/Linux Free Software Librem Smartphone

2016-10-01 Thread jadedml
Nope, nope, nope. Don't support this at all. Librem has and deserves no respect or credibility. "You're dead to me! ;~:" Instead, support the Neo900-- fully free, GNU/Linux, and they clearly care about privacy and freedom. Which Librem don't.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Purism Is Still Hoping To Build A GNU/Linux Free Software Librem Smartphone

2016-10-01 Thread onpon4
I don't trust Purism. All sense of trust and credibility went down the toilet with how they handled the Librem laptops. So frankly, I'm not going to get excited when they make the exact same promises about a phone they make as the promises they made about the Librem laptops, and I suggest

Re: [Trisquel-users] Modifying grub.cfg for libreboot

2016-10-01 Thread calmstorm
its possible I suppose...

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread calmstorm
and yes it is an error at chrooting...

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread calmstorm
thats the step i got to before having issues and zapper is my volume name.

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread mcz
Is it an error while chrooting? What is /dev/zapper? At which step are you exactly? Trying to mount the partitions, as in this? mkdir /media/linux mount /dev/main/root /media/linux mount /dev/main/usr /media/linux/usr mount -o bind /proc /media/linux/proc mount -o bind /dev /media/linux/dev mount

Re: [Trisquel-users] Automation, free software and moral duty

2016-10-01 Thread jason
"prohibit the commercial exploitation" We shouldn't start adding usage restrictions lest we end up in a situation where we can't use anything. Imagine an OS. "Well, this component doesn't allow commercial use. This component doesn't allow military use. This other component doesn't allow

[Trisquel-users] vnc via ssh over internet

2016-10-01 Thread jbahn
Hi have tried several times to make set-up that enables me to help e.g. my mother - whom I've successfully persuaded into using linux (for technical vs ease-of-use reasons it's for the time being not Trisquel though). But I just fail every time. On paper the best solution would be something

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread calmstorm
hmm ran into an error, /dev/zapper/usr /media/linux/usr /media/linux/usr didn't work.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Automation, free software and moral duty

2016-10-01 Thread d . a . capeletti
The software will be free, so it will not be patented. I'm talking about patent to prohibit the commercial exploitation of the work, ie, that a company can not manufacture the robot, except that it is for their own use. If a work of art material, like a robot, if it is not covered by a

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread mcz
It's rather straightforward once you get a bit used to the CLI. Semi-pro tip: don't type the ROM's name every time, just type the first 2 characters, and press TAB. It will be witten for you.

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread mcz
I just have written an answer that the forum refused to let me publish (access denied)... Anyway, here it is: https://stephentanner.com/restoring-grub-for-an-encrypted-lvm.html I took it from here: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/netinsall-tty-apt-get-update-not-working#comment-98813 The

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread calmstorm
If you find it let me know, hopefully it has full instructions. my apologies as this is tough to figure out for me heh.

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread calmstorm
yes

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread mcz
I have no idea if it would work with a cdrom, but I guess it should work. I'm looking for a chrooting tutorial I've posted somwhere in the forum.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Automation, free software and moral duty

2016-10-01 Thread lcerf
Software patents should not exist. Watch and listen: http://patentabsurdity.com/watch.html http://dcc.ufmg.br/~lcerf/wpa.mp3 Even assuming you have no ethics, owning a software patent will not bring any advantage. Only large companies and patent trolls have interests in patenting software

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread mcz
Modify CBFS? You mean extracting grutest.cfg, modifying it and adding it again to the ROM?

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread mcz
Wait, I just remembered something: it's possible to access the HDD from a liveUSB. I can't remember how the procedure is called, but I know I've detailed it in this forum (and did it obviously). Oh right, it('s called chrooting, and it might be easier to troubleshoot while being logged.

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread calmstorm
how would I do that in libreboot though?

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread calmstorm
should i tell you what ls does in the grub part of the computer? also I installed trisquel but I couldn't log into the installation due to these errors even with what I said I knew.

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread mcz
Maybe try this then: https://askubuntu.com/questions/150691/missing-vmlinuz-from-boot

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread calmstorm
error: file `/vmlinuz' not found.

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread mcz
Good, then when booting manually, you get an error about vmlinuz, right? What does it say exactly.

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread calmstorm
I flashed it myself and I installed trisquel myself... I know what my logical volume is named. essentially I know all of what you ask and still I cannot get in.

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread mcz
Then you need to start from here. Did you flash Libreboot yourself? Did you install Trisquel yourself? You need to know how the volume group and the logical volume were named (either by you or the person who installed Trisquel), as well as the passphrase that allows you to decrypt the HDD.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Forum request: signatures

2016-10-01 Thread mcz
That means reading and answering to the forum posts by email? Would my signature appear if I don't answer from email?

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread calmstorm
oh well in that case, no it didn't work. but, yes I have the latest libreboot and trisquel installed. and yes I am trying to update it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread mcz
I mean by turning the computer on, failing to log in, then getting back to the GRUB menu, pressing "c". From there, you type : cryptomount -a (press "enter") set root='/lvm/yourvolumegroup-yourlogicalvolume' (press "enter") linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/mapper/yourvolumegroup-yourlogicalvolume

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread calmstorm
when I switched to grubtest I don't remember seeing any errors... so what needs to be done i guess?

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread mcz
Thanks. Sure, why not. But how do I create a new entry? I can edit existing articles, but that's it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread calmstorm
I can check...

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread calmstorm
I cannot log into my trisquel installation if that is what you mean... what do you mean by log manually? though///

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread mcz
Can you log manually? If so, do you have the vmlinuz error there as well?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Modifying grub.cfg for libreboot

2016-10-01 Thread mcz
Are you sure you typed it exactly the right way? Yesterday, I was so sure I had it right, but being tired, I actually forgot a /.

[Trisquel-users] Automation, free software and moral duty

2016-10-01 Thread d . a . capeletti
Dear, I do not speak good English and I need your help or opinion. Imagine that you are creating a project that is innovative robotics for the place where you live. You use free software programs to make the mechanical design of the robot, to create electronics and control software. All

Re: [Trisquel-users] Modifying grub.cfg for libreboot

2016-10-01 Thread calmstorm
I can't seem to get the vmlinuz part to work cause it says vmlinuz not found...

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread calmstorm
I hope this guide works, gonna try it now. let you know if it works.. :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread calmstorm
I hope this guide works, gonna try it now. let you know if it works.. :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Purism Is Still Hoping To Build A GNU/Linux Free Software Librem Smartphone

2016-10-01 Thread calmstorm
I would agree, but, what if they are truly trying to do this... Although I do agree with those who said they are either dishonest or delusional. I think they are delusional personally. google can't even get the source code from intel... so yah that sums it up. If purism succeeds I would

Re: [Trisquel-users] The shorter and thorough guide to updating Libreboot on an X200

2016-10-01 Thread greatgnu
good, maybe you should wiki it?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hardware and F/LOSS

2016-10-01 Thread greatgnu
wired is always better I think, if you are interested in the subject write "hackers wireless mouse" on searx.me and take a look at the first links. cheers

Re: [Trisquel-users] Purism Is Still Hoping To Build A GNU/Linux Free Software Librem Smartphone

2016-10-01 Thread greatgnu
meh..purism scambrem.yaaawn

Re: [Trisquel-users] The future of Libre Computing: Crowd Funding Campaign Starts Now

2016-10-01 Thread dguthrie
This isn't the whole story. Android targets MIPS, ARM64, ARM, x86 and x86_64. Therefore Replicant could in the future support these architectures too.