Re: [Trisquel-users] Hello world

2016-12-17 Thread ar018
So let me summarize. Suppose for a moment that Trisquel is built in such a way that... * Trisquel follows Debian testing (therefore also stable) main repository in a tight lockstep. Since Debian's main repository is composed of -wishfully- FSF cleared packages, there's no need to create a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hello world

2016-12-17 Thread ar018
Re, Debian vs. Ubuntu. (I'll be partly reiterating myself) 1. Debian is the kitchen, Ubuntu is the restaurant. Ubuntu itself follows Debian. The original recipe cooks in the Debian kitchen and then Ubuntu serves it with a time lag. So, following the leader itself is always a step ahead

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hello world

2016-12-17 Thread ar018
Re, plain distro strategy. A quick question. I got this whatever distro, customized it to my own taste and re-released it as Abdullah Linux 1.0 - actually what have I achieved? Not much really, just converted it from Ali's taste to Abdullah's taste. Both tastes turns out unpalatable to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hello world

2016-12-17 Thread ar018
Hi Alberto, +1 for all your points generally. Things tend to get more complicated depending on the details, though.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hello world

2016-12-17 Thread ar018
Hi Soon, I too haven't tried gNewSense yet, and I don't know its release policy. But all I say here in this forum should equally apply for them as well. Let me go backwards from 3 to 1. :) Such a compromise is one way, without turning back for corrections. So yes I agree, due care should

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hi everyone

2016-12-17 Thread nicholaz
Hi guys, sorry I haven't been posting on here, final exams for college, you know how it is lol. I'll provide some updates now 1. My friend (who I mentioned a few days earlier) is not interested in changing from skype to a free software, I wish I could convince her. 2. The Toshiba laptop I

Re: [Trisquel-users] Resolution stuck at 1400 x 1050 after updates

2016-12-17 Thread jason
Sounds like a network problem, because the repository is operational.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hello world

2016-12-17 Thread infinityfallen
I can see your point about moving to Debian, and am largely inclined to agree with you. That said, there is already the free software distro gNewSense based on Debian, which I haven't tried, so I'm not sure it would be necessary to switch bases. I'm not entirely sure what you mean, but

Re: [Trisquel-users] Thought on using guids for non-free stuff with trasferable skills to free stuff?

2016-12-17 Thread infinityfallen
Not to be a pedant, but did you mean "guides" in the title? Studying the features of proprietary products is not in itself bad at all, and (as you mentioned) can be a great way to gain ideas for free software equivalents. If you're paying for the guide with money or your personal data (or

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hexoshi - New Metroid-like game I'm developing is being crowdfunded

2016-12-17 Thread onpon4
New update: Special characters https://www.crowdsupply.com/onpon4/hexoshi/updates/special-chars

Re: [Trisquel-users] "Best" computer with libreboot?

2016-12-17 Thread calmstorm
That may be why you think that. Although I may be mistaken. I am not entirely sure if there is a difference between how much 32 bit and 64 bit eat up ram. Enlighten me if I am wrong.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hello world

2016-12-17 Thread taiji_tao
You are making a very easy distinction complex. Debian in its current form is not libre. It is Debian that would need to make changes to meet that standard, stop hosting non-free and contrib, remove recommendations and instructions on how to enable them, etc... You are advocating for FSF

Re: [Trisquel-users] Thought on using guids for non-free stuff with trasferable skills to free stuff?

2016-12-17 Thread commodore256
You mean reverse engineering? Yeah, I love reverse engineered projects like GNU was. Though Gimp was never trying to be a Photoshop clone. If I could spare the cash, I would pay the Gimp Project and Kdenlive what Adobe normally charges. Money gets stuff done.

Re: [Trisquel-users] mdadm: group disk not found?

2016-12-17 Thread dahunt
This is a default install, with Trisquel taking the entire disk. Thanks for grub repair suggestion. If I can ever get a recovery disk to boot, I'll try that and, maybe, dpkg-reconfigure mdadm Thanks, Dave

Re: [Trisquel-users] firefox addons spy on you, what to do?

2016-12-17 Thread svhaab
If I write sudo apt-get download abrowser on a trisquel computer, an abrowser debian file will be downloaded on the computer and I can install and test it on another gnulinux system?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hello world

2016-12-17 Thread taiji_tao
Trisquel is what it is and its a distro for those who value the ethics of libre software and more current software, neither too old or too bleeding edge. gNewSense and Parabola fit the other ends of the spectrum. Sorry, but it will most likely never be a distro for the masses. Its more of

Re: [Trisquel-users] Resolution stuck at 1400 x 1050 after updates

2016-12-17 Thread shellinflux
I tried again a couple times but I still can't install it using this command sudo apt install linux-libre-4.1. The command is from the guide, I did everything again from begging to end according to the guide, but it's just stuck to 0%

Re: [Trisquel-users] mdadm: group disk not found?

2016-12-17 Thread albertoefg
Could yo please send a picture of the screen :)? Do you have more partitions? Did you try grub repair? Do you have more that one hard drive?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Thought on using guids for non-free stuff with trasferable skills to free stuff?

2016-12-17 Thread albertoefg
Free Software Foundation is not against using proprietary software if you are using it to make a Free Software replacement :) I think there are a lot of pros using free software, and now even some universities are ditching Adobe in favor of Krita, Gimp, Synfig, Pitivi, Kdenlive, etc :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hello world

2016-12-17 Thread albertoefg
1.- Debian is already free software by Default.(Just use with caution do not add non free repository) 2.-I think you are talking about Trisquel development but I am not sure. I think a developer has all the right to work in a way that feels comfortable. One of the great things about Free

Re: [Trisquel-users] pip installer

2016-12-17 Thread mtsio
If anyone wants to try it he has to fetch the source code of pip (python-pip-1.5.4) and replace req.py and _vendor/distlib/locators.py with the ones from gitlab. Sorry for the inconvenience but I couldn't push all the files to gitlab.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hello world

2016-12-17 Thread ar018
In my first couple of posts I've erroneously used DFSG (Debian Free Software Guidelines - by Debian) where I actually meant FSDG (GNU Free System Distribution Guidelines - by FSF). Please read them all as FSDG. Sorry for the confusion.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Hello world

2016-12-17 Thread lcerf
Software not respecting the essential freedoms of the users is bad, whatever the processor executing it. Trisquel should not distribute it. Trisquel cannot do anything for the firmware already in the hardware. If it is not free software, it is evil as well. And, no, using packages from

Re: [Trisquel-users] "Best" computer with libreboot?

2016-12-17 Thread megver83
Can someone remind me please why are people buying laptops with 8 gb? That really depends. For example, I work a lot with software development and video editing, so I'd like 8GB, but I can survive with 4GB running Plasma 5.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hello world

2016-12-17 Thread greatgnu
>I believe that Trisquel should follow Debian, instead of Ubuntu. I haven't read the rest for I am very lazy right now (will read more tomorrow), but.. ... my man! welcome! :D

Re: [Trisquel-users] Lost Full HD resolution after installing OpenJDK

2016-12-17 Thread greatgnu
This is a neat command OP can use. It generates fewer and cleaner lines :) cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep "\ install\ "

Re: [Trisquel-users] Will atheros ar5bhb92 work with free software?

2016-12-17 Thread greatgnu
why, of course, becausenecroing is so much fun as explained here

Re: [Trisquel-users] "Best" computer with libreboot?

2016-12-17 Thread greatgnu
32bit, old laptop, no 64 bit support.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hello world

2016-12-17 Thread ar018
Hi Magic, I should say upfront that I'm not criticizing Trisquel, nor am I trying to derail it. I just liked the idea and am trying to find some ways for mass adoption. That's all. I'm aware of the question of producing a free OS with best user experience with as low workload on developers

[Trisquel-users] Re : Lost Full HD resolution after installing OpenJDK

2016-12-17 Thread lcerf
It does not make much sense that installing OpenJDK 8 would alter your resolution. Something else must have come along. Probably a kernel image. Could you attach /var/log/apt/history.log to a reply to this message?

[Trisquel-users] Lost Full HD resolution after installing OpenJDK

2016-12-17 Thread rzz
I have installed Trisquel on my computer a few days ago. I installed OpenJDK 8, as I need it for my work. My process was the following: -Add the repository. -sudo apt-get install openjdk-8-* This installed the proper components to my computer, but the next time I rebooted, my resolution

[Trisquel-users] Re : Hello world

2016-12-17 Thread lcerf
Firmware is 100% software. And proprietary software is unacceptable. It is not a gray area. It does "really derail or spoil the free software guidelines". For those who consider proprietary firmware is OK, several popular distributions are an option, e.g., Debian (optional nonfree

Re: [Trisquel-users] Will atheros ar5bhb92 work with free software?

2016-12-17 Thread mappack
Why bump it if it has an answer?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hello world

2016-12-17 Thread ar018
Thank you Majin :) also thanks for gNewSense pointer. I'll be looking at there too. As for Debian vs. Ubuntu, I didn't mean to favor being leading edge over stability or freeness, just wanted to point out that there is a possibility of being both LTS and rolling distro at the same time.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hello world

2016-12-17 Thread seimirchaplin
Hello, and welcome to the forum! :) 1.If you want a FSF-endorsed GNU/Linux distro based on Debian, you can see for gNewSense: gnewsense.org Ubuntu LTS also has 5 years of support. The Trisquel main goal isn't be steps ahead in technology. Instead, is to provide a fully free operating system

[Trisquel-users] Thought on using guids for non-free stuff with trasferable skills to free stuff?

2016-12-17 Thread commodore256
Example: Say if you watch a video or read a book on how to do x in Photoshop or Premiere and you're like "Hey, let's see if Gimp or Kdenlive can do that". You get the idea, you just implement the idea in something else. I know there's plenty of guides on free tools, but that's not what the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hello world

2016-12-17 Thread ar018
Anticipating that Flidas may not be available for some time, let me expand a bit more on preliminaries. In future I intend to start a separate thread on each one of them. 1. I believe that Trisquel should follow Debian, instead of Ubuntu. Reasons being; * Debian is the kitchen and Ubuntu

Re: [Trisquel-users] "Best" computer with libreboot?

2016-12-17 Thread jbahn
Can someone remind me please why are people buying laptops with 8 gb? And above all, why do people think 4 gb is "only" 4 gb? i.e. relative to maximum So, I just opened all of this: mousepad, claws mail, evince, TorBB, gimp, goldendict, inkscape, libreoffice writer, links2, mirage, pidgin,

Re: [Trisquel-users] "Best" computer with libreboot?

2016-12-17 Thread jbahn
PS: Why are the redish/yellowish rectangle split?

Re: [Trisquel-users] "Best" computer with libreboot?

2016-12-17 Thread jbahn
Thanks. The latter part, I'll leave to Tehnoetic!

[Trisquel-users] Hello world

2016-12-17 Thread ar018
Hello friends, I've recently been aware of Trisquel from GNU free distributions list. Thumbs up for your high aim and efforts. I've not yet tried Trisquel (waiting for Flidas) but been reading around here in this forum and elsewhere. I'd like to contribute a few suggestions (maybe some