Most of the big differences are philisophical. There are technical
differences but most of them relate to the philosophy or free software.
Ubuntu is not as strict about non-free software as Trisquel is. Ubuntu
provides a non-free (multiverse) repository and has no policy as far as I'm
If you really need to do so or think it is prudent, create the new page with
the new name and content of the old one then send me a message with both and
which to delete and I can delete the old page. I know that is kind of a
round about way of doing it but I don't know of a direct way to
This discussion has been raised before:
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/wine-even-useful-anything-other-proprietary-software
I am also experiencing this issue. Clicking the quality button to change the
quality to 240p seems to be a work around. It isn't ideal but it works.
My FSF donation also got suspeneded and I just got this email from the FSF:
Hello,
Thank you for supporting the Free Software Foundation as a monthly
member. Recently, PayPal sent us a notice that automatic payments to us
were suspended. We have had some issues lately where PayPal erroneously
I recieved and email this morning that my membership payments have been
suspended. Is there a reason the project wants me to stop giving them money?
Has this happened to anyone else?
I will actually log in and get back to you. I just got an email so it might
be a scam. I didn't click on anything.
It does not violate policies of GFSD to post pictures of another non-free
operating system in your documentation. They make it clear that if the
documentation discusses how to move from a non-free OS like OS X to a free
one like Trisquel the documentation is ok. So documentation on how to
At the same time might as well report that the ubuntu logo shows up (upper
right corner of screenshot) of your setup as well.
You are making a false comparison and mis-representing his logic.
In one situation the package is clearly non-free. It is good for only one
thing, installing a non-free program. If you are committed to only using
free software the package is of no use to you. If you reject non-free
Any software included in the Trisquel repositories is considered free
software. Midori included. The definition of free software is here. It
loosely translates to the users have the freedom to run, copy, distribute,
study, change and improve the software.
moilami, I don't know how feasible this idea is but if you want to take up
the cause you could do it. Then you could donate a portion of the proceeds
to the project.
In that case please see our [https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/how-help How to
Help page]. If you can contribute financially you should consider becoming
an associate member.
Yes, the packages from the Add/Remove Applications section do come from the
repositories. Any packages that are available either in the base install or
via the Trisquel repositories must follow the
[https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html
Guidelines for Free
That package is in [http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/aseprite Ubuntu
raring]. This means it should be included in the future 7.0 release.
No, that is a projection based on release history and how we get our
packages:
* Trisquel 6.0 packages are based on Ubuntu 12.04 Precise
* Trisquel 6.5 packages should be based on Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal
* Trisquel 7.0 packages should be based on Ubuntu 13.04 Raring
Since the package was
There is revision information w/ diffs. I have partial admin access and can
see them. I am actually not sure why they are not enabled for everyone
though.
I am looking for a program (obviously free) to fit a particular need. I am
moving into a new place soon and I want to make a good impression. One of my
things is I tend to listen to music a bit louder then I should. I was
wondering if there were any programs that would be able to
Awesome, thanks!
We are trying to get a developer meeting setup. Please consider bringing
this topic up at that meeting. See
[https://trisquel.info/en/forum/interested-volunteering-read-update this
thread] for more info.
Noon is fine for me (west coast of USA). The only problem is my work
schedule. It is all over the place. If I have work that day I won't be able
to make it.
Chris, you are on the East Coast (USA) right? If that is 1AM for you. That
would put it at 22:00 (10:00PM) and I am -9 UTC.
Sorry when I said 22:00 I meant my time. I misread it. Yes, I believe my
math is off.
Just for reference. freeme is referring to
[https://trisquel.info/en/issues/6007 this bug]
I am still interested in volunteering. Depending on the week I should be
able to make the online meetings although not always (work schedule
fluctuates). Is there a meeting planned next week?
Ok, I'm going to try to break down why I think your argument is very
logically flawed.
Your first premise: It is an attack against free speech because the views are
different between Debian and GNU.
Your reasoning: Different view of free software is not allowed by Trisquel if
the package
Chris.
Do you have any wifi cards which will work on Trisquel 4.0 (Kernel
2.6.32-42)? We are installing Trisquel on a family member's computer but he
uses wifi. If his current wifi card doesn't work I may want to buy a USB
dongle from you but since it was an older kernel I wanted to ask.
Awesome. Thank you.
I agree with your main points.
One small thing. You can report bugs for Trisquel 6.0 mini.
[https://trisquel.info/en/issues/7110 This bug is one such example]. That is
possible.
I also work on the bug tracker as a volunteer. There are multiple problems.
Part of the problem is we
I am running replicant on my HTC Dream. I think it is version 2.2 or 2.3.
It does have some issues I won't lie. However it does work. I am willing to
deal with it because for a phone it is one of the most freedom respecting out
there. For me I'd rather have freedom over something
This happened with me too. Part of the problem is the way people are
educated now. You grow up and are instructed in school about using non-free
OS's. Software freedom is not a topic that is brought up in school. If
anything the subject open-source may be mentioned.
This depends on what definition you use for free software. If you use the
GNU definition Debian is not 100% free by default. They accept the artistic
license 1.0 as free while the GNU project does not. Just to make sure people
are aware of that.
I know. I understand that, I was responding to the post above me. The user
above me asserted that if we are going to call it GNU/Linux we could expand
that and call it GNU/Linux/LibreOffice/Mozilla/ect. That is a common enough
assertion/question that it is answered on the GNU/Linux FAQ.
[http://bzr.trisquel.info/ubuntu-purge/trunk/annotate/head:/purge-oneiric#L27
Jockey] has been removed from Trisquel because it helps users install
non-free software. If your wifi card isn't working off the bat it is
unlikely it will work out of the box without non-free software which we
People on this forum will only recommend distros that comply with the GNU
project's guidelines for free systems. Here is a
[https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html list of free GNU/Linux
distros].
We can't endorse [https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html#Ubuntu
[k]ubuntu
Please see:
[https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#many Many other projects
contributed to the system as it is today; it includes TeX, X11, Apache, Perl,
and many more programs. Don't your arguments imply we have to give them
credit too? (But that would lead to a name so long it is
While I will admit I am not t3g's biggest fan I believe he does have a decent
point here.
Ruben is not around as much as users would like. I would like to get bazaar
access and I have submitted several bug fixes with no responses from him. I
won't lie it does get frustrating because I
I have marked these as reasons for not becoming an associate member on our
[https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/proposed-policies-procedures-solutions
proposed policies, procedures, solutions page] because I think these are
valid reasons.
This is not exactly true if you are using the FSF/GNU definition of free
software. The FSF/GNU considers the Artistic 1.0 license to be non-free
while Debian considers it to be free. Thus they have packages under the
Artistic 1.0 license and if you go by the FSF/GNU definition you could
The mailing list uses GNU Mailman:
1)http://listas.trisquel.info/mailman/listinfo/
2)http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html
[https://trisquel.info/en/users/quidam Quidam] is the developer of Trisquel.
He works for activity central now and on Trisquel as well so he can be a bit
hard
* [https://trisquel.info/en/contact general contact page]
* [https://trisquel.info/en/users/quidam/contact quidam's contact page]
FLARE should be ok. It was added to the Ubuntu universe repo in precise.
Meaning it should make its way into Trisquel in version 6.0.
Unvanquished isn't in Debian and Ubuntu so someone would have to look into it
and verify (sorry don't have the time to do so right now).
Your logical fallacy is [http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman strawman]:
You misrepresented someone's argument to make it easier to attack.
I used it to write [https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/burn-trisquel-cd-images
this documentation]
This has basically almost 0% relevance on Trisquel for the following reasons:
* We are a free software project, not open source. See:
[https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html Why Open
Source misses the point of Free Software]
* According to the article only the
A couple things. The GPL is encouraged because it gives users freedom. Not
because it allows outside hers to help improve the software/advance the
software.
Secondly, my other point was that this has almost 0 impact on Trisquel, not
to jump at them. EVEN IF the client, server, and
According to reddit the [FSF will have a
booth](http://www.reddit.com/r/gnu/comments/10d33y/fsf_will_have_a_booth_at_ohio_linux_fest/).
I won't be there but it might be a good place to meet.
I am pretty sure the list is manually updated by ruben. He indicated to me a
few days ago, when replying about something else on the dev list, that he was
[http://listas.trisquel.info/pipermail/trisquel-devel/2012-September/000694.html
completely swamped]. Probably because he is working on
Also consider the difference between net and gross. For example lets say I
get paid by my job $800 a month (after taxes). For me that is net. However,
lets say Ruben makes $800 a month from donations/membership I would say that
is gross. That is because money has to be taken out of that
It may be a problem with the emacs metapackage.
Either try:
#with with GTK+ user interface
sudo apt-get install emacs23
or
#without X support
sudo apt-get install emacs23-nox
You know what, I'm of the opinion that if it works just go with it. But that
is just personal choice. Sorry your log was a tad hard to read consider I
don't speak that language (german?). Either way glad the issue is fixed.
Awesome! Thank you for your contribution!
I agree. If you contribute it upstream Trisquel and other distros will
benefit. gNewSense 3.0 is based off Debian so we want them to also get the
benefits.
Free software is good. Lets spread it around :)
Right.
Quidam is difficult, but not impossible to reach. You can contact him about
development via the development mailing list. The other way to get in
contact with him is via the #trisquel IRC chat channel on freenode. However,
he does work a normal job because the project alone does not bring
It has nothing to do with using Linux vs GNU Linux. See the page
[https://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html#Fedora Explaining why We
don't Endorse Other Systems: Fedora]
Fedora does have a clear policy about what can be included in the
distribution, and it seems to be followed
None are reported to
[http://h-node.org/wifi/catalogue/en/1/1/Intel/undef/yes/undef/undef/undef
h-node] (database of what hardware works with all free software). I am not
aware of any that exist either.
Via terminal (assuming you are running 5.5 on GNOME)
dconf write /org/gnome/gnome-panel/layout/toplevels/panel/orientation
'$GNOME_PANEL_LOCATION'
where $GNOME_PANEL_LOCATION is top or bottom
What operating system are you currently running?
* [https://trisquel.info/en/search Search]
* [https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/trisquel-community-guidelines Rules]
*[https://trisquel.info/en/first-batch-trisquel-usb-keys-sent Information
about verifying your email]
*[http://listas.trisquel.info/pipermail/trisquel-members/2011-June/00.html
Information about email alias]
How would you define non-free (non-functional) data?
Just to clarify currently we have 50 members. Half way there. So depending
on your view is that a glass half full or half empty?
Well I know Ruben was also selling them individually. I think I remember
jxself saying he bought one from him when he was in Boston for LibrePlanet.
Although as far as I know they are not available in the store.
I like (and these are the package names):
* warzone2100
* wesnoth
* freedoom
ubuntuone-client has in fact been
[http://bzr.trisquel.info/ubuntu-purge/trunk/annotate/head:/purge-oneiric#L90
purged from Trisquel]. As for the justification behind that I can not
provide an answer.
Don't leap to the conclusion that it is only a month or so away. As Magic
Banana says if things go according to '''tradition''' then it will be
released on software freedom day. But we may also have to observe the old
saying it is done when it is done.
As far as I know there is no beta
Moderators can be annoying but at the same time they can also be very
useful. Especially if the forums have rules established. I know a forum
that is very well moderated. For example they have a for sale section where
users can trade and sell items. I feel safer trading there then on
I made an issue about this a [https://trisquel.info/en/issues/6059 bit ago].
I agree with the idea although usually I see the terms moderator and
administrator.
For those of you posting in here I would advise you contact quidam via email
or IRC because he doesn't actively monitor the forums. I have clearly
expressed my concerns but if more of the community stands up and says we
want this it might mean more.
I won't lie, I am getting annoyed at
Yes, I should have asked. What version of Trisquel are you running? As
Magic Banana mentioned the package is not in 4.0. All other supported
versions should have it.
IMO you should move that to the section I made called Security
Precautions/Concerns. I made that section to address the concerns you are
making.
You are welcome.
Well if you guys get stickers let us know. Then we can close
[https://trisquel.info/en/issues/4192 this issue]
Hope it is useful to those who want to protect their privacy:
Freenode with Tor.
Nice to meet you. Thank you for supporting software freedom :)
Make sure [http://packages.trisquel.info/brigantia/myspell-dictionary
myspell-dictionary] is an installed package on your computer. Someone in the
IRC chat channel just had this problem and it fixed it for them.
It is on the right side of the website. Under the donations part and under
the picture of the coffee cup. It is the one with the penguin on it.
+1 thumbs up. I will see if I can get attention to this.
Do you want me to write up a rough draft?
Can you explain what the programs do? Does A have to finish before B starts?
Is it ok to send these programs to the background to finish their jobs?
You could also maybe pick up a used book. My father gave me a old Unix book
(yes, I am aware GNU means GNU is not unix) from 1995 and while some of the
information is depreciated a lot is very useful.
1) [http://packages.trisquel.info/source/brigantia/keepassx KeepassX] is
available in the repositories.
2) [http://packages.trisquel.info/brigantia/games/ here is a list of games
available for Trisquel via the repsoitories]
3) OpenJDK is also in the repos.
4) The first post can be done
What it shows is breathtaking. First, China is proposing to give countries
authority over the information and communication infrastructure within their
state and require that online companies operating in their territory use
the Internet in a rational way- in short, to legitimize full
It should be in the next release of Trisquel. It is currently in ubuntu
12.04 which is what the next Trisquel release will be based off of so it
should make its way in.
We just had a discussion about how to handle this problem on IRC in the
channel. We are still mulling over solutions. For now to expand on this you
could always use a email forwarding setup (e.g. if you are a fsf associate
member they provide email forwarding)
We were discussing options:
Trisquel IRC
(09:33:42 AM) quidam: but we need to decide what to do anyway
(09:33:47 AM) quidam: we can:
(09:34:06 AM) quidam: - hack mailman to make it behave as we want
(09:34:34 AM) quidam: - disconnect the lists and the forum, so the forum will
Ruben has publicly stated why there are problems with communication and it is
not because he is stubborn and doesn't listen to anyone. He states:Going back
to communication issues, one problem I now have is that the forums are way
too big for me to monitor, so please those of you who are
This is a [https://trisquel.info/en/issues/2003 known issue]. I will mark it
as critical and bring it up with the website maintainer.
Well of course if we had paying gigs we could attract some devs. The problem
is we don't have enough money to pay anyone. The goal of this thread is
about how to the project can raise more funds (primarily through associate
membership).
We can't have paying gigs though if we don't have
The website uses drupal.
I hate to rain on your enthusiasm but maybe you should first look at trying
to [https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/how-help help the project] in smaller ways
first. It is always nice when people want to help. However the website and
especially the mailing lists and
Well I do agree with you. If it isn't broken don't fix it isn't a great
argument. It does hinder improvements and things like that. I agree having
more functionality on the forum would be nice.
My main point is one of priority, work involved, and necessity. Firstly:
1) Is this a
Umm here are some of the issues I have
* Battery life (may be because I got the phone used)
* No wifi (requires non-free software)
* If I lose coverage I have to restart the phone to re-enable coverage
* Sometimes phone hangs on reboots
* over the air internet connection drops out often
Whoa dude you must have something weird going on with your system because
that page (rrhistorical) is not at all what he linked. He linked to a
trisquel bug page.
That makes sense. I thought you were getting man in the middle attacked or
something.
You could use Trisquel mini.
Awesome. You should report that information to h-node and include any
information required to get it working with free software.
I have a HTC Dream running replicant. It has some issues just so you know so
you would have to be prepared to support those. I deal with them because I
know that is what comes with using free software but someone who bought a
phone with replicant pre-loaded may not feel the same way.
I agree Dave. Do you have this particular piece of hardware already or is it
something you were thinking of buying? If you have it already try a liveCD
and see what happens.
You are proving by your actions there is a difference between open source and
free software that is deeper then just semantics.
In short, a person who truly values freedom would use a free operating system
despite technical hiccups. We realize there are many cases where the free
software
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