Any update on this? Has it been discussed at the IRC meetings?
chaosmonk:
> Even if a package seems useless to you, you cannot be certain that it is
not important to another user.
Fair enough. I'd definitely prefer updated to removed. But I do worry about
distributing obsolete versions of software whose homepages make strong
security claims that may n
FWIW Linphone is another comms app that relies on E2EE to protect user
privacy. The version in the 8.0 repos is 3.6.1 and seems to have a number of
bugs when trying to add or connect to accounts on Linphone.org. The latest
version according to Wikipedia is 4.1.1. The SFD lists a stable 3.7.0
You do have the option of adding the repos for Trisquel 9.0 to your
source.list for a "testing experience". If you'd like to help with
backporting newer versions of packages into Trisquel repos, Chaosmonk gave
some detailed instructions here:
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/jami-version-trisq
> "It's not 'your' server, if it was your server, the server would be located
in your house"
I agree that a Discord community is not a "server". But it sounds like you
don't count a VPS as "your server" either? What about a box they own, sitting
in leased space in a datacentre? Or a colo? D
Thanks again for the suggestion. Does GParted have a deb repo I could add to
my sources list to download a newer version onto Trisquel?
Thanks Chaosmonk for the details instructions. Is there a generic version of
them on the wiki? If you want to get more people involved in Trisquel dev, it
might help to make it very easy to find a list of entry level tasks like
this, with links to detailed information on how to carry them out
Hi commodore256, thanks for sharing your experiences, and particularly the
fine detail on the hardware. You obviously go to much greater lengths on this
score than I do. I just do the absolute minimum with the hardware that allows
the OS to boot without crashing and hope for the best ;)
I'm
I notice that as well as the two data partitions on the drive there is a
third item coming up in Caja called "WD SmartWare". I assume this is some
kind of proprietary software launching off that first EFI boot partition.
Could this be causing the problem? From memory, it didn't a few years ag
Narcis Garcia:
> $ sudo fdisk -lu
Thanks. I did that. The output for the USB drive looks like this:
Disk /dev/sdb: 465.1 GiB, 499405291520 bytes, 975400960 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes /
I did see the .deb downloads. But doesn't this mean I'll have to manually
download and reinstall again every time there's a new release? Not having to
micromanage app versions is one of the reasons GNU/Linux is such a pleasure
to use compared to Windows ;)
That's why I wanted to add their r
Chaosmonk:
> I think it is only worth doing this for packages whose version in the repos
has a specific problem.
I understand that backporting adds a lot of work that I don't have the skills
to volunteer for (although I'm willing to learn with some mentorship). But I
think Jami is a strong
Hi Victor, it's awesome you want to include Trisquel in your collection. I
can't help you with the missing versions of Trisquel, but if you're looking
for hosting to make your collection publicly available, I suggest contacting
softwareheritage.org and Archive.org:
https://archive.org/detail
> Are you able to show up to the Freedom Fridays meeting on IRC
Based on what Chaosmonk said in the Trisquel Studio thread, these usually
start at 16:00 UTC and last a few hours. If my calculations are correct,
16:00 UTC is midnight on Saturday here (I'm in China, same time zone as HK):
http
I'll try to attend this Friday.
I've got an old USB hard drive that was originally formatted as a backup
drive for a MacBook. At some point, somebody carved off some space and made a
second partition, accessible by default with GNU/Linux. The last time the
owner used it, they tried to update the Time Machine backup located
Also, I went to the Jami download page to try to add their repo, so I can get
a more updated version, but I'm a bit confused. They only have manual install
instructions for various versions of Ubuntu, Debian, and Fedora, and I
suspect my browser isn't displaying the page properly, because whi
The Trisquel 8 repos have a version of Jami so old it's still got the Ring
branding. It's really not helpful to have this kind of thing in the repos. Is
it possible to backport a newer version? If not, it probably makes sense to
just remove it from the repos
I'm happy to write copy so that the trisquel.info blog can be updated more
frequently. Samples of my tech blog writing can be found at
disintermedia.net.nz/blog (when the service hosting it is working ;)
Core team members could chuck me rough bullet points on what ought to be
included / not
evilive:
> I proposed making the "Backporting A/V Software to Trisquel 9" page more
accessible to Trisquel's users - perhaps a sticky thread can help users to
find it more easily?
Perhaps a blog post could be written about a potential Trisquel Studio for
the front page of Trisquel.info, li
Chaosmonk:
> If trisquel-studio reaches a point where it seems polished enough could be
made an official flavor with it's on ISO.
I've probably said this elsewhere, but with the performance of the Mate
desktop, Trisquel-Mini is a bit redundant. Maybe it could be replaced with
Trisquel Stud
No worries Chaosmonk, thanks for your replies, and sorry if that last reply
of mine was a bit terse. It's helpful just to know this is a known issue (so
no point filing a bug), as I couldn't find anything about it by keyword
searching the forums. Your suggested solutions could have helped and
> maybe you need also need a newer kernel to support the newer graphics
stack?
I doubt that's the problem. I'm using Jxself's linux-libre repos. According
to uname -r, my current kernel is:
4.19.72-gnu-rt26
Thanks for the tip. I installed that package, shut down the laptop, and
booted up again. Sadly, the issue seems to be persisting :( Is there anything
I need to do to activate that package or get ABrowser to use it?
Ever since I installed 64bit Trisquel 8 on my Lenovo X60 laptop, I have been
having weird issues with the display of text in ABrowser. As a I scroll down,
the text (nothing else) sometimes distorts. Sometimes making zooming in our
out corrects the issues for a while, but then as I continue to
Sorry for the delayed reply, I just found this thread again while searching
for something else ;)
andyprough:
> Are you able to use any of those services without a VPN, or do you have to
use a VPN for everything to deal with the great firewall?
It's a mixed bag. Wire has never worked withou
I've heard similar comments about Docker and DockerHub. AFAIK Docker itself
is 100% free software. But DockerHub, like Flathub, has non-free components
(or did at the time I saw the discussion about it on a mailing list).
As are AppImage files:
https://appimage.org/
> Am I able to use Adobe Flash? A game I play needs flash to be able to join
the chat.
FWIW Mumble is an excellent free code program designed for in-game chat. The
UX is similar to IRC, you join a server, which can can any number of
channels/ rooms. Each room has a text chat box, and users
The Hippocratic License is like all these other non-free social justice
licenses; the Commons Clause, Fair Source, Coopyright, anti-996, and using
CopyFarLeft licenses like the Peer Production License with software. They're
not free code software, because they violate every one of the four fr
amuza:
> I think it would be nice to include programs that let users communicate
without centralized services.
I definitely see the value of a fully libre distro that made decentralization
and anonymity a focus. Have you looked at Heads, a fully libre spin on
Tails?:
https://heads.dyne.or
eric23:
> I am not sure what is happening to the wired connection. Maybe my hardware
is just failing. In Trisquel 8 the lights blink on, but I can't connect
anymore. In Trisquel 9 upon entering boot up of the kernel the lights stop I
think.
Have you tried making some boot USBs of other dis
> $ sudo apt purge transmission && sudo apt install transmission
Hmm, that seems to have worked. No idea why, but thanks for the tip. I would
have tried that before posting here, but for some reason I thought
Transmission was part of the default desktop package, and that if I tried to
unins
Update: qBitTorrent is now downloading files, on two separate torrents. So it
does seem to be a problem specific with Transmission on Trisquel 8, not
torrents on Trisquel 8 in general, nor Transmission in general (working fine
on MacBook on the same net connection). I really like using Trans
FYI my wife is using Transmission on her MacBook and it's still working fine.
I installed qBitTorrent on my T8 system. It has at least managed to download
the metadata from the magnet link, but it's not downloading any of the actual
files so far.
I've been making a lot of use of BitTorrent since I moved to China, since a
lot of streaming services either aren't available here, or their performance
is poor on the weaker net connections we tend to use here. A couple of days
ago Transmission stopped working. It won't seed finished torrent
I'm still confused about the precise differences between a "driver" and a
"firmware". Can someone point me to a good explanation of the differences
between the two?
chaosmonk:
> The Libre.fm wiki recommends clients for various platforms. I'm not sure
why if none works.
It doesn't seem like GNU FM/ Libre.fm is getting much development energy any
more, maybe for the same reason GNU social hasn't yet merged ActivityPub
support, and MediaGoblin is all but
In case anyone scrolls to the end of this thread looking for solutions, I
mentioned in a reply further up that if I tick the checkbox in ABrowser
settings to allow websites to choose their own custom fonts, the display
problem is resolved for Minds.com. This also seems to resolve the display
Narcis Garcia:
> If you format in Ext4 with Trisquel 8, you will not have metadata_csum.
But format in Ext4 with Trisquel 8 (or 7) is exactly what I did! Is it
possible this was added somehow when I deleted the swap partition or created
the swap file on that partition? How can I test whether
Magic Banana:
> guess the system that made the filesystem had a newer version of Linux
(which includes the code for the filesystems) than Trisquel 8.
Nope. The system that made the filesystem was either a Trisquel 8 boot USB,
or maybe even a Trisquel 7 one.
> Try from a live GNU/Linux syst
A quick update, I haven't had the system freeze with a blank screen again
since I set up the swap file, even though I've been leaving it unattended for
a few hours at a time. The plural of anecdote is not data, but this does seem
to support my contention that Trisquel is able to hibernate to
I got a USB WiFi dongle from ThinkPenguin that I suspect was part of a bad
batch. After a series of emails where we triaged the problem and confirmed it
couldn't be solved, ThinkPenguin offered me a replacement. The original
dongle I ordered was this one:
https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-lin
I have been using GParted to try to resize the primary root partition (ext4)
on Bishop (my 32-bit laptop), increasing it by about 2GB into free space to
the right of it (as visualized by GParted). I've tried it with a Flidas live
USB and with a Flidas system I installed to a USB. In both case
Does this apply to all PPAs then or just a subset that are hosted on
Launchpad?
Good to know. But what about the fact that the default partitioning scheme
did not include a swap partition when I installed both Trisquel 8 and PureOS
8 on the internal SSD of Vision (my 64-bit system)?
Magic banana"
> A swap *file* does not support hibernation: a swap *partition* is needed.
I believe this is incorrect, for two reasons. One, when I allowed both
Trisquel 8 and PureOS 8.0 to partition automatically during install, neither
of them set up a swap partition. It seems unlikely to m
That seems to have worked for Bishop. I haven't left it alone long enough to
suspend or hibernate yet. But where it used to say "Swap not available" in
Mate System Monitor, it now shows 2GB of available swap space, with a few
hundred KB used, and the system feels a bit less sluggish.
So I'm
Further update, I've noticed that Bishop (my 32-bit system with the 2GB
RAM)is freezing up after it's been left unattended for some time. I'm
guessing that the Power Management system is hibernating it and now that I've
deleted my swap partition, that's not working. So I definitely need a swa
MagicBanana:
> A VPN servce has terms of service, not a software license.
Calher:
> The official PIA client is not yet free/libre software.
I'm not sure why Calher said that though, because at the link he provided
immediately after that statement, it says:
> "We are extremely happy and excit
I saw a recent blog post about a partnership between Purism and PIA:
https://puri.sm/posts/purism-becomes-pia-first-oem-partner/
... which suggests that the free code Librem Tunnel app (a branded OpenVPN
client) will be a way to connect to a PIA-supplied VPN service, without using
non-free so
Does Ubuntu 16.04 include exFAT support out-of-the-box? If not, could
exfat-utils and exfat-fuse be added to Trisquel 9 to allow it to work with
large SDcards formatted with exFAT? See:
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/trouble-mounting-sdcard-solved
Some quick updates on my swap experiences. I reinstalled Flidas with no swap
partition on Vision (the 4GB RAM laptop). I tried creating a swap file, but
kept running into "invalid argument" errors when I tried to "swapon -a",
following the instructions in the pages I linked in my previous com
Would updating the user help wiki pages come under the remit of the Trisquel
Design Team? I just opened an issue about that here:
https://trisquel.info/en/issues/25762
It's only been a year or so since the beginning of development on Etiona was
announced:
https://trisquel.info/en/trisquel-90-development-plans
... and already we have a testing release, this is great news! My testing and
hacking time is now going to be split between figuring out if I can
su
I agree with chaosmonk that Trisquel is intended as a common-or-garden
desktop distro, not a multimedia studio. But I would love to see an
up-to-date libre distro (or flavour) targeting the needs of the multimedia
producers who use distros like UbuntuStudio, Artix, or AV Linux.
Historically
Since I posted my last comment in this thread, I replaced the HDD in my
laptop with an SSD and maxed out the RAM at 2GB. Just recently I bought a
more powerful laptop which I also had an SSD installed into, and maxed out
the RAM at 4GB. I've been doing some reading to see whether or not it's
Wire appears to be working again in 32-bit ABrowser. I tested whether it was
also to do with the custom fonts issue that was affecting Minds, but that
doesn't appear to be the case.
andyprough:
> Once I'm logged in, web page looks a bit messy, with some text elements
sitting on top of each other.
This is the issues I was having with Minds as well as Movim. I finally
figured out that if I tick the checkbox in ABrowser settings to allow
websites to choose their own cust
My fediverse address is:
stry...@mastodon.nzoss.nz
http://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/
In case anyone is interested, I'm testing Jami again (I'm 'strypey' there
too). I'm also testing the Android XMPP app Conversations, connect with me
at: stry...@jabber.org
Me:
> I'm also having display issues with fediverse.party
There is now a public-facing bug report on this here:
https://gitlab.com/fediverse/fediverse.gitlab.io/issues/38
Thanks for the test reports andyprough.
Wire:
> With librejs disabled but tprd enabled, you can log in an connect to a
friend, but you cannot send or receive any messages.
I don't get as far as a login page. All I'm getting on 32-bit ABrowser is an
error message saying the browser is unsupp
TBH I play games very little these days. Partly because my ancient hardware
doesn't support many games, and partly because if I'm going to use a computer
to explore a virtual world, interact with characters, and find surprises and
excitement, there's no better multi-player game than The Inter
GrevenGull
> There was some talk a while back that all SSDs contain proprietary software
I haven't tried to Libreboot this laptop, so I'm only running free code from
the kernel up. It's possible that there may be proprietary code built into
the BIOS (or some other part of the hardware) that a
Pandya:
> Also a post talking about current stats of developement of Trisquel 9 and
work required to accomplish the development from the principal
developer/maintainer would be useful.
Yeah, good luck with that ;) Like all people with specialist skills who are
willing to volunteer on commu
This does indeed sound like a sad situation with the Freedom Day
celebrations. I can think of two likely causes; they have run short of funds,
or they have run short of volunteers (or both). I know very little about the
Digital Freedom Foundation etc and how they were organized. Were they fun
I'm having trouble using a number of websites in ABrowser on my 32-bit
Trisquel 8 system. All of these sites are free code projects, so I'm hoping
that the ABrowser devs can collaborate with the devs of these projects to
help triage the problem(s), so we can figure out where the problem is, a
> "general policy is to freeze package versions on the release of a given
Trisquel version and then apply only security patches/bug fixes. But the
version number remains frozen."
I'm confused by this. The version number of ABrowser seems to be regularly
incremented. But not IceCat? Does the
Mate is working really well for me and I probably have one of the oldest
computers anyone is still trying to use (bought in 2010):
https://www.coactivate.org/projects/disintermedia/bishop
I doubled the RAM to 2GB about a year ago. Just before that I replaced the
HDD with an SSD and as I've me
Hi Steve-O, you describe why you like XFCE over Mate as:
> nicer default programs, easier to customise how I like, marginally better
performance
Could you maybe expand on this? Which default programs do you think are
better and why? What do you customize and how does XFCE maker it easier? H
Have you resolved your issue with your VPN Pyrotrisquel? ExpressVPN started
working again for me on Flidas (32-bit) sometime around January, and despite
a short outage recently (related to an event going on in China I'm told), is
working again now.
Me:
> They also support Debian
For the re
Like Belenos, Flidas does not have exFAT support installed by default. Could
that have something to do with it? To install the packages needed for exFAT
support, open a terminal and run:
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install exfat-utils exfat-fuse
I just tried this on Flidas and it wor
Chaosmonk:
> Even if Ubuntu does drop 32-bit support, Trisquel doesn't necessarily have
to do the same
True, but wouldn't that mean having to import an increasing number of
packages from elsewhere? If the value of basing Trisquel off an upstream
distro is that it limits the amount of work
The AA1 rides again! It turns out my suspicion was correct. The problem was
exactly as I theorized here:
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/intermittent-inability-boot-trisquel#comment-137665
I finally got hold of a screwdriver small enough to open the stuck screw
without ripping the head out, an
This is a fascinating idea. At one point I tried to sell USBs pre-loaded with
Trisquel. I didn't manage to sell any, but I got a whole bunch of USBs while
they were going cheap, which have turned out to be useful ;) Let us know if
you do this, and how it does! But maybe a thread in the 'gener
I've spent a lot of time in the past cleaning up the messes of people's
borked Windows systems. By default, Windows PCs always have the OS and user
files in the same partition, so when the OS dies, as it inevitably does, you
have to painstakingly back up all the users files onto a sufficientl
Magic Banana:
> "The disk seems to be the culprit, though."
Yes, I suspect so. I searched "ata1" and "32" on a Searx instance and found
this:
'ata* Comreset failed error =-16 (or32) on booting'
https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2286314
I'm really hoping the SSD has just come loose ag
I note that Mangey Dog recently filed this bug about the difficulty of using
the trisquel.info site on a mobile device:
https://trisquel.info/en/issues/24973
I'd just like to add that having recently got a mobile device, I can see the
problem. Fennec F-Droid renders the site as best it can, b
Thanks. Given the nature of the problems I described, I can't reliably do
this using the installed OS on the SSD. I will try it with the OS on the USB.
This morning I'm getting more weird errors. When I tried to shutdown using
the GUI menu, I got a black screen with a series of numbers,followed by:
ata1: COMRESET failed (err: 32)
... or ...
EXT4-fs error (device sda5): ext4_find-entry:1439: inside #710028: comm
gmain: reading directory Ibl
Does NordVPN use OpenVPN? I used to be able to use ExpressVPN on my AA1
laptop, on both Trisquel 8 and Trisquel 7. About a month ago, this stopped
working on Flidas. I spent many hours on chat with their helpdesk people
trying to get it working again, including connecting directly with OpenVP
Something is going wrong with my poor old AA1 (click on my name for full
specs). It started with a few intermittent problems with the file manager,
first being unable to access a shared folder from my wife's MacBook that I
accessed fine yesterday, and then, after a couple of reboots, being un
I'd love to attend LibrePlanet 2019, but I don't think either my finances or
my energy levels will allow it. Maybe in 2020?
Hi Luis, thanks for the work you have done on creating another Windows-free
laptop option. I have contacted Olivier from LinuxPreloaded.com to see if
Libretrend can be added to his list of companies that supply Windows-free
hardware to end users.
You don't need a credit card to use credit card payment systems. You can use
a debit card, which only allows you to spend money you already have. But yes,
it would be good if Libretrend can accept payment in crypto-tokens, for those
who don't want to share their purchase data with banks and c
x27;s installed!
My username is 'strypey', if anyone wants to test it with me. Hit me up by
email or on the fediverse to arrange a time:
https://www.coactivate.org/projects/disintermedia/danyl-strype
Yes, tt seems like I accidentally followed the instructions for 18.04,
instead of 16.04. I tried again, following the 16.04 instructions, and it
seems to be working now. Is there anything I need to do to undo the things I
did when I followed the wrong set of instructions?
Output of: cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ring-nightly-main.list
> deb https://dl.ring.cx/ring-nightly/ubuntu_18.04/ ring main
Hmm. Perhaps this is a case of user error? ;-P
If I have accidentally followed the instructions for 18.04, instead of
16.04, what's the best way to undo what I did, so
davidpgil:
> "I was wondering if there is some form of start date or initiation action
that happens when we start Trisquel 9."
Step 1 was to agree on a name. There was an announcement some months back
that a name had been chosen, and development started:
https://trisquel.info/en/trisquel-90
16.04
Here's the output I got back:
strypey@Bishop:~$ sudo apt-get install ring
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the
There are similar problems afflicting the Wire app for Android, which is why
it's still not in F-Droid yet, see:
https://github.com/wireapp/wire-android/issues/5
https://github.com/wireapp/wire-android/issues/233
However, the Wire devs acknowledge it's a problem, and have said that fixing
it
cejfi:
> "It was not easy for me to switch to Telegram, had to install a lot of
clients to my close friends. So what is the alternative? Signal?"
There was a recently discussion on this topic here:
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/videotelephony-trisquel-7
Personally, I'm leaning towards Wire.
RAM usage is only one criteria. There's also what the DE requires of the CPU
while idling, the graphics chips etc. It's precisely because the apps people
use these days have such high resource demands (including those delivered via
browser), that it's important for the DE to deliver what the
In another thread, Mason said:
> "Trisquel 8 should be using systemd, not upstart."
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/dual-monitors
I wonder if this could be the issue with you Intel D865GLC motherboard?
> "XFCE should be the next mini I think."
XFCE may have been a lightweight DE once, but these days it has about the
same resource usage footprint as Mate. This article is from 2016 but more
recent tests have come to the same conclusion:
https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/best-lean-linux-desktop-e
What a thorny issue George! It sounds like there is some incompatibility
between this piece of hardware and something that has been changed between
Trisquel 7 and 8. To confirm this, have you tried using a live USB made with
a different version of Trisquel (eg 7)? Also have you checked for a
Also 3) would it be possible to put up magnet links as well (one for each
file if there are more than one)? I am having a lot of trouble downloading
this large a file through HTTP. There's a reason why FTP used to be a thing,
and why BitTorrent is a thing now.
A couple of quick things:
1) NoScript tells me this site has dependencies on goOgle and the birdsite.
Was this a strategic choice, or inadvertent?
http://www.freedomdecrypted.com/public_html/index.php/2018/06/13/first-post/
2) I'm downloading the show and my browser is telling me the file is
Unlike us, most people are not interested in endlessly tinkering with their
OS. That's why distros exist, so people can install a standard set of
software, and just get on with the work they want to use their computer for.
It's also the reason most people don't even know how (re-)install an O
LXDE is a dead project (as is Midori). So the question is, what is the best
DE to replace it for Trisquel-Mini 9? Mini needs to strike a balance between
being user-friendly for noobs, which is what we want Trisquel to be know for,
and running smoothly on older hardware (given a specific set o
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