Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-12-21 Thread Caleb Herbert
On Mon, 2017-12-18 at 16:35 +0100, lourivell...@gmail.com wrote: > What do you guys think about BS that mozilla pulled by installing an addon > without the users consent? I was just in the process of fully switching to > Firefox - despite knowing that they were basically just the lesser evil.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-12-21 Thread greatgnu
Tx, Alij, will do.

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2017-12-21 Thread nuevodesorden
Love you SuperTrump. ;) check this out too > https://webdevelopmentaid.wordpress.com/2013/10/21/customize-privacy-settings-in-mozilla-firefox-part-1-aboutconfig/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-12-19 Thread strypey
Does anyone know if or when Abrowser 57 will be available for Trisquel 7.0?

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2017-12-19 Thread funkymarxist
I have also installed FF Quantum recently and it is really great in terms of speed and new features but I came across some really sad news about Mozilla. They are implementing DRM on videos played with their browser, also they are spying on the users, removing people from the rise up mail

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-12-19 Thread calmstorm
Waterfox, Abrowser or Iceweasel if your using hyperbola/parabola.

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2017-12-18 Thread greatgnu
No addon was ever installed here and that's because the relevant feature was disabled here so that shit would not work... There are many websites dealing with FF antifeatures or security or privacy issues but really I think all you need is this one user.js file (and noscript)..

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-12-18 Thread J.B. Nicholson
lourivell...@gmail.com wrote: What do you guys think about BS that mozilla pulled by installing an addon without the users consent? While I can understand that this was not handled well in terms of public relations, I think it's mostly a manufactured outrage (an excuse to be righteously

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-12-18 Thread lourivellini
I guess my biggest requirement for a browser is that its completely FOSS, and doesn't have any proprietary code built into it. So something like Pale Moon is out for me. Tor was just too slow last time I used it. I am fine with some tracking as long as I consent to it. Im worried about

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-12-18 Thread masonhock
If your only problem with Firefox is its addon policies, Abrowser is the most similar alternative that addresses that. The version of Abrowser in the Trisquel 8 repository has already been updated to version 57. Icecat would be a good option if you would like some additional privacy

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-12-18 Thread lourivellini
When researching FOSS browsers, you get back firefox, chromium, etc - which arent totally FOSS. Why seamonkey over the other ones listed? Are they not totally free? Which ones of the ones I listed are FOSS?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-12-18 Thread enduzzer
Pale Moon binaries are proprietary. Why not use Seamonkey if you are happy with an older design and a more traditional appearance. Dillo, Netsurf... There's a whole bunch of browsers out there to choose from.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-12-18 Thread lourivellini
What do you guys think about BS that mozilla pulled by installing an addon without the users consent? I was just in the process of fully switching to Firefox - despite knowing that they were basically just the lesser evil. I figured as long as the product was good, and I could configure my

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-12-18 Thread jabjabs
It also solves a lot of security issues that plagued the old extension system.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-12-14 Thread Caleb Herbert
No.

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2017-12-12 Thread vltr
Is Firefox Quantum available inside the Trisquel's repositories?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-30 Thread Caleb Herbert
Switching to WebExtensions is important. It standardizes the format for browser extensions so that you can write an extension once and it will generally work in any browser that supports browser extensions. You don't want Mozilla to keep changing the extension format, do you? WebExtensions is

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-30 Thread jodiendo
oralfloss The fact that all the add-ons have to be re-written just for this quantum update seems really inconvenient. It boils down on the writing of the new web browser, I don't see any problems with updating it those security related addons.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-28 Thread oralfloss
I think the fact it has the "Recommended by Pocket" section on the new tab by default is quite intrusive. It's basically like an advertisement and it does seem to be tailored to my interests (which makes me wonder how they got this information in the first place). I know you can easily

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-28 Thread legimet . calc
I use the KWallet extension and Saved Password Editor.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-28 Thread i_write_words
Well, I personally think that the title of this thread would work just fine for gossiping about you behind your back, even though I don't always agree 100% with everything you say. ;) But what do I know.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-28 Thread enduzzer
Smooth as silk...

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-28 Thread Cassandra of Troy
All I've had time to do is install it, but noscript, privacy badger, etc. are all available now. I started from scratch and haven't tried importing any of my existing firefox profiles yet. When I tried to start from scratch with an earlier version of Firefox while distrohopping, I discovered the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-28 Thread leestrobel
No problem, Heather. I'm glad you are here too. I think we have a great community here on the Trisquel forum and hopefully we can all move the cause of free software forward together :-) I haven't tried Firefox Quantum myself yet, but I will report back if/when I do.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-26 Thread alonivtsan
Yeah I started fresh (I deleted the profile folder). I think uBlock came preinstalled on the version I got from AUR (on Hyperbola). I think the offending add-on is the color inverter - unfortunately the interface is unusable with inverted colors unlike Seamonkey. It takes a whole second to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-26 Thread greatgnu
Did you start fresh when you installed it? Also ublock should definitely not come preinstalled.. I recommend you purge your .mozilla folder in home and your mozilla cache in /home/.cache, start it up and install one addon at the time, so you can spot the one that is slowing it down for you.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-25 Thread alonivtsan
For me the latest abrowser (57) is very slow. Startup is fast, but it now takes me over 4 seconds to completely load a page, e.g. Slashdot. I'm using the following enabled add-ons: Dark Background and Light Text, NoScript, User Agent Switcher 1.12 (as a replacement for the regular User Agent

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-25 Thread i_write_words
Nah, I thought your joke was funny and it got (at least) me seeing the humour in potentially unpleasant situations elsewhere. It definitely worked. Sometimes people who are still learning English come up with insights that native speakers didn't see. It's a weird language. I am glad that

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-25 Thread greatgnu
I like the 'density - compact' in customize, less space taken by GUI, more space for teh site. I heard in the next version or two there will also be an option to hide the titlebar, thet's even more space, very useful for those with small monitors, think laptops. In the meanwhile been

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-25 Thread greatgnu
viejito, if you open up your TorBB and copy the value for the useragent (windows7, ff-esr) and disable js and redo the test you should see your fingerprint has lowered drastically. Another good website to check the fingerprint is https://browserprint.info/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-25 Thread greatgnu
extensions.pocket.enabledfalse extensions.pocket.site extensions.pocket.api That should disable it completely I guess.

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2017-11-25 Thread leestrobel
No, I wasn't trying to be that clever .. The joke was funny because it was mine - lol! XD

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2017-11-25 Thread leestrobel
Yeah, this sounds very good :)

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2017-11-25 Thread jodiendo
supertramp I download from the website and I'm impress with it, specially the speed and clarity. Yet the foot print is very sort of stable. https://panopticlick.eff.org my panoptclick results are How well are you protected against non-consensual Web tracking? After analyzing your

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-24 Thread sora
anybody can Pocket be disabled completely it is annoying. also firefox 57 addons are not compatible with the old firefox-es

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-23 Thread vitacell
Wow, so, they did a great job.

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2017-11-23 Thread ivan . baldinotti
Trisquel 8.0 I have it installed.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-23 Thread greatgnu
Just a friendly reminder for those using the new noscript extension and having troubles figuring out how to make it as secure as the old one (well, almost.. clickjacking and ABE are still missing). Instead of untrusting websites and making long list just make your default 'all unchecked'.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-23 Thread greatgnu
Sure, vita_cell, it's an old (2007) laptop, AMD cpu dual core 1900 Mhz max, 3 gb RAM (old original ram), GPU old nvidia. A 2007 laptop completely loading Firefox in 5 seconds on each subsequent load, and then running smooth as hell all the time on all websites - fantastic :) Don't have to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-23 Thread onpon4
The noscript tag isn't "served" based on what the server thinks, it's a browser behavior to cause content within those tags to be visible. The problem is that the extensions in question don't actually disable JavaScript, so Firefox's un-hiding of these elements is not triggered. In the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-23 Thread csh
I know about all that. I was asking if the joke was funny because it was an implication that IceCat is simultaneously dead and alive, and you won't know until you install it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-23 Thread vitacell
SuperTramp can you share your computer hardware specifications?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-23 Thread csh
Do you use/are there extensions for password-store?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-23 Thread csh
I don't get the joke. Could you explain?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-23 Thread csh
Firefox is the only free browser that can run free web apps.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-23 Thread csh
What?! Really?! Ign http://nl.archive.trisquel.info belenos-updates/main Translation-en Fetched 5,209 B in 5s (1,011 B/s) Reading package lists... Done cal@leela:~$ apt search abrowser Sorting... Done Full Text Search... Done abrowser/belenos-security,belenos-updates,now

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-23 Thread csh
Quantum really does kick ass. I can't wait for Abrowser 57. (Firefox is filled with annoying ads and links to services that require proprietary JavaScript.)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-22 Thread onpon4
Really? So version 48 supports both? In that case, I wonder what took all the add-on developers so long to convert their extensions over. When my browser got updated, there were no add-ons that could turn JavaScript off. Now there are two that I'm aware of, and both are completely inadequate

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-22 Thread ivan . baldinotti
Abrowser is already updated to version 57.0 :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-21 Thread greatgnu
Well, I have used it for a couple of days with javascript.enabled turned off in about:config. Today I installed noscript, which is also the only addon I have used lately.. So, I am set :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-21 Thread greatgnu
>Guys if new Firefox flies, what about RAM consumption? It is very good. Vanilla FF without addons takes approximately 140 mb RAM here while 52 used to take around 210.. But really, the big difference is noticeable on old hardware and on heavy pages. Diaspora for example, the feeling I

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-21 Thread onpon4
I wish Mozilla had done a release that supported both types of add-ons so that the add-on transition could be smoother. But oh well, what's done is done.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-21 Thread leestrobel
Good question! My biggest issue with the old Firefox was that it quickly shovelled all of my RAM into a burlap sack and then made all my other applications ask *very* nicely, if they ever wanted to use any of it .. "You other guys aren't going to be needing any of this, are you?" ;)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-21 Thread vitacell
Who needs ultra 4k HD icons?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-21 Thread vitacell
Guys if new Firefox flies, what about RAM consumption?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-21 Thread jodiendo
Supertramp Monsenor what version did you downloaded from? what version for windows, debian or a specific one.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-20 Thread legimet . calc
Once 59 ESR comes out.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-20 Thread masonhock
Yay! Do you think Tor Browser will use this as its new base?

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2017-11-20 Thread eliotime3000
However, Abrowser will be (or "is") on the Trisquel repos? Because Parabola hackers haves some issues for compile it and I don't know if the rebranding proceeding has been changed for Firefox Quantum. I've tested Firefox 57 and floats!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-20 Thread legimet . calc
I guess I will try 57 out, but I'm sticking with 52 ESR until 59 ESR comes out. Hopefully by then all of my addons will have WebExtensions versions... (By the way a WebExtensions version of NoScript is out.)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-20 Thread ivan . baldinotti
Thanks for the tip. It is pretty fast indeed.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-20 Thread shiretoko
Really thought you're talking about me!!

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2017-11-20 Thread leoo
I dislike the new icon though. Icons are becoming simpler even as computers are becoming more powerful and therefore less burdened by detailed and complex icons.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-20 Thread Cassandra of Troy
Sounds good to me. I'm sticking to Icecat as much as I can as long as I can, but relieved that it's not all bad news.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-20 Thread leestrobel
When we gets the Icecat version? (I propose we call it 'Schrodinger's Icecat' ;-) )

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2017-11-20 Thread enduzzer
I can confirm: 57 really flies. I’ll stick to FF ESR, though, until Noscript is out.

[Trisquel-users] Quantum kicks ass

2017-11-20 Thread greatgnu
So.. I was curious so yesterday I downloaded it to try and see, and oh boy oh boy is it smooth and snappy. Firefox is back from the limbo of bloated crapware it would appear. If you use older hardware like myself you are in for a big surprise. About time Mouzilla, about time :)