Re: [Trisquel-users] What do you think about calling free systems as "GNU" systems (even if there is no GNU or Linux-libre)?

2016-05-04 Thread adfeno
I'm "cross-posting" this to trisquel-users and libreplanet-discuss mailling lists. So, I made a "counting" on the opinions/votes so far, here is the table: _ . "GNU" SD $Nome G+L "LibreOS"

Re: [Trisquel-users] What do you think about calling free systems as "GNU" systems (even if there is no GNU or Linux-libre)?

2016-05-04 Thread vitacell
I put in Duckduckgo and google: "richard stallman windows", and searched in images.

Re: [Trisquel-users] What do you think about calling free systems as "GNU" systems (even if there is no GNU or Linux-libre)?

2016-05-04 Thread adfeno
Oh man! Where did you get this! It's so cool! I want the hight quality one as a wallpaper. :D

Re: [Trisquel-users] What do you think about calling free systems as "GNU" systems (even if there is no GNU or Linux-libre)?

2016-05-03 Thread davesamcdxv
That wouldn't be fair to Linux Torvlads. And coming from the same people who want to give the GNU Project their due.that's make us look like arses.

Re: [Trisquel-users] What do you think about calling free systems as "GNU" systems (even if there is no GNU or Linux-libre)?

2016-05-03 Thread dguthrie
That's the point... just because something is widely used (seemingly the aim of Linux and its blobs, understandable to a certain extent) does not mean that it will spread freedom or the ideals of it. If people don't value liberty why give it to them?

Re: [Trisquel-users] What do you think about calling free systems as "GNU" systems (even if there is no GNU or Linux-libre)?

2016-05-03 Thread superbyelich
I don't think ChromeOS is a good example of freedom.

Re: [Trisquel-users] What do you think about calling free systems as "GNU" systems (even if there is no GNU or Linux-libre)?

2016-05-03 Thread vitacell
GNU+Linux

Re: [Trisquel-users] What do you think about calling free systems as "GNU" systems (even if there is no GNU or Linux-libre)?

2016-05-03 Thread greatgnu
I never disagreed more with a post on a Triskello forum. I don't think it would be necessary to answer all the points of yours. I'd only like to answer one point though-> >I think this is why free software is so small. This is where you got it totally wrong. See, the reason why it is so

Re: [Trisquel-users] What do you think about calling free systems as "GNU" systems (even if there is no GNU or Linux-libre)?

2016-05-03 Thread greatgnu
> Corporations have the power because of governments. No.

Re: [Trisquel-users] What do you think about calling free systems as "GNU" systems (even if there is no GNU or Linux-libre)?

2016-05-03 Thread enduzzer
GNU alone is not right because it contradicts what RMS has been tellin the world all along. It's GNU plus Linux. A totally different situation arises if the GNU kernel is ever finished and polished to be useful and stable or if they (the GNU project) come up with another kernel of their own.

Re: [Trisquel-users] What do you think about calling free systems as "GNU" systems (even if there is no GNU or Linux-libre)?

2016-05-02 Thread Ignacio Agulló
I have listened several times to Richard Stallman calling for the use of "GNU with Linux" (GNU/Linux). Still, for some time I went into thinking this - We don't say Android/Linux, do we? So why should we say GNU/Linux instead of just GNU? And then, I had the occasion to

Re: [Trisquel-users] What do you think about calling free systems as "GNU" systems (even if there is no GNU or Linux-libre)?

2016-05-02 Thread dguthrie
Ici, https://trisquel.info/en/forum/political-freedom-software-freedom-and-compromise-general-relation-personal-independence New thread

Re: [Trisquel-users] What do you think about calling free systems as "GNU" systems (even if there is no GNU or Linux-libre)?

2016-05-02 Thread dguthrie
I tend to talk about the distribution name e.g. "I use Trisquel" "What is it?" "It's a distribution of the GNU Operating System, made up of just free software. It uses Linux as it's kernel" "Oh, I have heard of Linux, my friend is obsessed with it!" "It's not what your friend thinks. Linux

Re: [Trisquel-users] What do you think about calling free systems as "GNU" systems (even if there is no GNU or Linux-libre)?

2016-05-02 Thread vitacell
Most of GNU+Linux users, think that they using Linux operating system. I agree with you, and I love call Richard's OS as is: "GNU". But GNU+Linux users don't know what is GNU.

Re: [Trisquel-users] What do you think about calling free systems as "GNU" systems (even if there is no GNU or Linux-libre)?

2016-05-02 Thread dguthrie
I don't really understand your point here. You say governments are the problem, but surely private power is worse, in that it has even less accountability to the population? It is contradictory to talk about liberty yet make these points. I'm not really sure how people's physical appearance

Re: [Trisquel-users] What do you think about calling free systems as "GNU" systems (even if there is no GNU or Linux-libre)?

2016-05-02 Thread gaffel
Corporations have the power because of governments. Governments accept software patents, governments with their "obama care" gives medical corporations power to *bleep* the peoples health, including "food" corporations with their GMO. Governments is the problems, greedy corporations use

Re: [Trisquel-users] What do you think about calling free systems as "GNU" systems (even if there is no GNU or Linux-libre)?

2016-05-02 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
Here's what FSF things about this proposition https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#justgnu

Re: [Trisquel-users] What do you think about calling free systems as "GNU" systems (even if there is no GNU or Linux-libre)?

2016-05-02 Thread dguthrie
> Marketing What's the point of getting something widely used if people do not know why GNU/Linux exists, the raison d'être, so to speak. Otherwise, the existence of Chrome OS would be proof we have won. I want free software to be widely used. But I don't want it just to get some arbitrary

Re: [Trisquel-users] What do you think about calling free systems as "GNU" systems (even if there is no GNU or Linux-libre)?

2016-05-02 Thread gaffel
I believe the stubbornness from GNU and free software community is doing more harm then good. I am more leaning for calling it just Linux because it is a lot better for marketing the operating system. Were the fight should be is difference between the mind send of free software and open

Re: [Trisquel-users] What do you think about calling free systems as "GNU" systems (even if there is no GNU or Linux-libre)?

2016-05-02 Thread arielgnu
I believe that we shouldn't do the same thing that was done to us. And by we, I meant the GNU and the FSF xD What I mean is that Linux as a kernel and the open software community should be recognize for their contribution to the system as well. At least that was my first reaction. But then

[Trisquel-users] What do you think about calling free systems as "GNU" systems (even if there is no GNU or Linux-libre)?

2016-05-02 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Remember: This topic is about free system distributions (those which are fully compliant with the GNU Free System Distribution Guidelines). Some free software activists from Brazil have been doing a counter-campaign against society's tendency to call GNU+Linux just as "Linux". Instead of calling