Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-04-05 Thread Maxime Devos
> I'm only saying I don't care for games. They don't do "practical" > jobs. It's entertainment. Some games are art. I think games actually *do* something practical. The practical thing they do is *entertainment*. It helps you to spend time you would otherwise do nothing, can be good for (depends

Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-04-02 Thread jason
"Conclusion: for you, there exists an emergency." No, I have not stated that it amounts to an emergency. Please don't attribute your conclusions of what I think to me. "Instead of acknowledging our divergence" Well I'm sorry for not doing that at the start. But really the divergence seemed

Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-04-02 Thread jason
If you did read it then why... when I'm talking about all creative works being derivative not in the legal sense but in the sense of stuff building on what came before... are you trying to change the meaning around to be in the legal sense when you say "You must at least accept that an exact

Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-04-02 Thread jason
There must be a typo somewhere? Because one of the one hand you say "Businesses using people artwork in the course of their business can afford to pay for that, and I do think it's an unreasonable use of copyright to ensure that they do." If you do think that it's unreasonable to use

Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-04-02 Thread strypey
Magic Banana: "I do not recognize companies (Netflix, Spotify, iTunes, the Kindle store, the hairdressing salons, the bars, the book stores, the radio/TV channels, the movie theaters, etc.) any right to redistribute recent artistic works without giving a cent back to artists." Neither do

Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-04-01 Thread jason
"You do not "restrict the public's rights" by preventing it from doing something it neither needs nor wants to do." Other artists are not part of the public. Non-artists never have a desire to have something changed? Ever? They can't have someone else do it for them? Like me commissioning

Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-03-31 Thread jason
"Our opinions diverge here. If the public does not need/want to modify the work --- only artists do (again, the hairdresser can be a music artist in her free time, she is not acting as one when running her haircutting business) --- then the freedoms of the public are not harmed when it is

Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-03-31 Thread jason
"But, sure, the current trend is, on the contrary, to always increase the copyright term." And everything that makes copyright stronger also makes copyleft stronger. It's the judo move of copyleft.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-03-31 Thread strypey
Yes, there are two separate aspects to computer games; the software engine, and the artwork, including graphics, audio, cut scene video etc. I think it's essential for the software engines to be free code, for all the reasons others have mentioned here relating to user rights and

Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-03-30 Thread jason
Reducing copyright terms to 5 years might be nice conditionally (the condition being on finding a way for copyleft to continue functioning without copyright which is a difficult topic. Copyright is only bad in my view when it's used to prevent sharing. When it's used as with copyleft to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-03-30 Thread jason
"Only artists wants to modify artistic works, not readers/listeners/spectators/hairdressers." This creates a distinction where none exists and I think feeds back into some of the other things you said. Every person in free software is a potential developer. Every person reading or listening

Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-03-29 Thread jason
"Free software is about the freedom of the *users*, not the *coders*." Yes, I know. In this aspect I hope that you were able to at least pick up on the sentiment being communicated, even if she didn't use the right words. "in what way the freedoms of the readers/spectators/... of an artistic

Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-03-29 Thread enduzzer
"Until the enactment of the Statute of Anne publishers could pass on their royal grants of copyright to their heirs in perpetuity." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_law_copyright#Battle_of_the_booksellers_.28UK.29 This is clearly wrong. Copyright should be short, only last a generation

Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-03-28 Thread jason
Oh, and there's one more thing I thought of: Chris Webber makes some good arguments about why free games are important for free software: http://dustycloud.org/blog/why-faif-games-matter/

Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-03-28 Thread jason
Yeah, but software shouldn't be categorized into whether someone considers it practical or not. All software should be free ("We defend the rights of all software users", says the FSF - not "We defend the rights of some software users.") I'm reminded of someone else that was also taking

Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-03-28 Thread enduzzer
I'm only saying I don't care for games. They don't do "practical" jobs. It's entertainment. Some games are art.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-03-28 Thread infinityfallen
I think a fundamental difference also has to be drawn in terms of types of media. A book, even with the full force of reserved rights weighing down upon it, cannot hurt you- there might be lawsuit if you choose to publish it on your website, but the book itself cannot instigate that. By

Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-03-28 Thread enduzzer
Stallman: "Works that are designed for use doing practical jobs must be free; [...] As for works of opinion and art, I don't think they must be free. I advocate some reforms of copyright for these works but I see no reason to abolish it." "Works that are doing practical jobs -- free." Games

Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-03-27 Thread jason
"I wouldn't expect games to be free since they are a product" Oh, please clear your head from what you've probably heard from the proprietary game companies. Rather: Games are software too.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-03-26 Thread allanitomwesh
Games can be free, freedom is not about price. The bigger concern would be Nvidia's GPU drivers, which are proprietary as sin.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-03-24 Thread vitacell
Linux=component for an operating system (not necessary must to be GNU)(Linux it is not a program of GNU project) GNU=operating system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_system HURD=GNU Project program (kernel)(this kernel supposed to be GNU's kernel)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-03-24 Thread vitacell
You can play any game if you have Nvidia's Kepler card, gtx770 and gt730 with gddr5 are fine. You just reclock a Kepler card manually and play. Those card are working with fully free operating system, blobless.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-03-24 Thread onpon4
The libre driver is included in Linux (and Linux-libre), so you wouldn't have to install it. That driver is Nouveau, and the Nouveau website has a page documenting support for the various features of the cards: https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix/ In general, the standard

Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-03-24 Thread tomlukeywood
"But would it be possible to use my nvidia card with free drivers and still being able to run the 3d graphics when running a game?" It would depend what model of NVidia card you have you can check If it will work with free software here: https://h-node.org/ If you have the right model of

Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-03-24 Thread Maarten
I understand the difference now, someone sent a link with the explanation of the naming convention. On 2017-03-24 15:02, enduz...@riseup.net wrote: The op thinks that GNU/Linux = Libre. GNU slash Linux is only a naming convention, designed to put stress on the component parts of the system so

Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-03-24 Thread Maarten
Ok that explains a lot. Thanks! I could have worded that last question differently, I wouldn't expect games to be free since they are a product. But would it be possible to use my nvidia card with free drivers and still being able to run the 3d graphics when running a game? On 2017-03-24

Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-03-24 Thread onpon4
That's a malformed question. Fedora is a GNU/Linux distro. What you mean to ask about is operating systems which are compliant with GNU FSDG. And the advantage is simple: none of the official channels of software distribution for these systems contain any proprietary software. That's the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Question about Free GNU/Linux distributions

2017-03-24 Thread tomlukeywood
"what's the advantage of using GNU/Linux distro over a distro like fedora/redhat?" Fedora and Redhat are GNU/Linux distro's many people in the free software community chose to call what most people call "Linux" "GNU/Linux" the reason for this is explained here: