Also on topic: it is possible for a layman who has spent enough time on the
Trisquel boards to run a "more free" version of Ubuntu by adding Jxself's
linux-libre kernel and disabling the restricted and multiverse repositories.
It's a bit more work than clicking on the defaults in Debian and
FYI, sysvinit is an option in Devuan even though it may not be the best
option.
I'm not up for debating so I shall leave that to you. You have already shown
yourself to be far more effective in that area, Calmstorm. Much respect. You
be you.
I won't debate here.
I just don't like systemd because I don't like systemd.
I was sorely mistaken when I thought that Devuan would be beyond my technical
ability, so come on in, the water's fine if that's how you roll.
The Devuan community does have interest in developing a fully free OS
I'm not a developer, nor a programmer, nor I am involved with systemd,
but I must intergect here.
Do you care to give proof that systemd imposes "security and
modification issues"?
It has been proven that systemd is modular, as an example, Trisquel 7
(not to be confused with the upcoming 8)
I compared the speed of booting on debian to devuan. Both on the same
computer.
This is from my experience of using both on librebooted x200.
But I actually used devuan instead of debian more due to Luke's knowledge of
systemd. apparently he says there are security issues with it and
One thing I will add to my above post, more errors exist with systemd also
then runit. That is another reason. ah well.
Never heard about it slowing things. Are you sure?
I'm reminded of
[[https://www.gnu.org/distros/optionally-free-not-enough.html]]. :)
It is an error to call only fsf approved systems libre. If you install debian
and add no non libre software, it is libre.
Debian is the only non fsf approved distribution which provide
the option of a libre installation?
I don't like systemd, because it slows things down more than if you used an
init such a runit.
I like Debian, I really do. I don't like that thing about stability that
makes you uninstal the whole DE when you wish to uninstal or replace an
application.
Thinking about librepup using trisquel's packages
https://freepo.st/post/b3efy88e
though it's probably not up to date
(https://notabug.org/dimkr/woof-CE-libre), one could use it to wake up an old
computer and make it free.
Yes, you're right about Fedora and I should've included this quote about
Debian instead. I was unscrupulous; didn't read the quote with due diligence.
With the release of Debian 6.0 (“squeeze”) in February 2011, these blobs
have been moved out of the main distribution to separate packages in
I have no idea. At the time of writing I was thinking of Debian.
The quote seemed to imply something that you refuted, and I'm not disputing
that. I thought FSF would have their act together without giving it much
thought beyond that.
FSF has this to say on the subject. You can always disable non-free repos,
uninstall proprietary software and deblob the kernel with any distribution.
Some distributions would be free but they make the mistake of recommending
non-free code.
https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
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