Re: [Trisquel-users] Flatpak on Trisquel 7
As mentioned earlier, flatpak is just a way for installing programs. It would be good if you were to say what the actual name of the voip software you wanted is. Surely it has a name... :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Flatpak on Trisquel 7
sudo apt-get install flatpak
Re: [Trisquel-users] What system configurations do you change?
You really like Debian my friend :) Your wallpaper is beautiful. Is not necessarily about preload or swappiness, those are just the things I do :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Questions about determining what is free software
Thank you very much for your interest on knowing more about the free/libre software movement. To answer some of the questions we can split things into two sides: practical and ideological. "Practical" means what you can see in practice, and usually what you receive. "Ideological" is related to opinions and behavior of people. There are various things that *may* make functional/practical data/works (also includes software) non-free, such as: licenses, patents, trademarks, non-disclosure agreements, trade secrets, contracts (be it verbal or written), laws, technologies used. However, for all those things, it depends on how they impact the essential freedoms of free/libre functional/practical data/works. "functional/practical data/work" can be, for example: software, text fonts, documentation, and many other things I won't say for now. In the practical side, the freedom of some functional/practical data/work can be checked by seeing if the licenses, patents, trademarks, non-disclosure agreements, trade secrets, contracts, laws and technologies that are applicable to it can be problematic to the essential freedoms that we already know (I assume that you have already read what each one of those freedoms are, and that you already know that these freedoms must apply to everyone, without forbidding based on discrimination of nature/type of usage). This also requires that the work in question mustn't depend on other non-(free/libre) one in order to be made available. For example: If A is non-free, and B depends on A, then B is also non-free. There are some exceptions, but this is the general case. In the majority of the cases, if one wants to use some functional/practical data/work, then evaluating the practical side is enough. There are, however, some edge cases where the ideological side might prove to be an issue. This can be noticed in the difference between "free/libre software proponents" and "open source proponents". While both proponents work together in most cases and projects, the open source ones don't speak of the freedom of the practical/functional data/work, they think that simply appealing to "consumer values" is enough. Free/libre software proponents can also rely on those "consumer values", but they must make it clear that the essential freedoms exist and that these are most important. While the Open Source Definition is very similar to the Free Software Definition, and while both of those forbid digital handcuffs (this is not an absolute synonym for "non-(free/libre) software", it's a subset/subtype of it), what ends up happening is that the open source proponents allow digital handcuffs to be implemented in the products/projects that depend on the projects/products provided by these open source proponents. As an example of open source but not free/libre product/project we have Android project. The people behind Android project are allowing manufacturers to implement digital handcuffs via Restricted Boot (not Secure Boot), this completely forbids you from replacing the Android *itself* that you have with any other from anyone you trust, because the manufacturer won't allow you to tell the phone/tablet *who* you trust (example: you). Some tablets/phones have only Secure Boot (which allows you to define who to trust) or don't have any (which allows everything, even untrusted updates). Note that we are not talking about application updates, nor about the updates that Android itself tells you to do. There are more differences, but I'll let Bradley "bkuhn" Kuhn do the talking (optiona): [[https://sfconservancy.org/videos/2015-01-15_Bradley-Kuhn_Future-of-Copyleft_LCA-2015.mp4]], [[https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2015/sep/29/vw/]], [[https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/copyleft-for-the-next-decade-a-comprehensive-plan/]]. Now for the other questions: About software downloaded using apt-get: They are free/libre as long as they come from Trisquel's default repositories. Some people tend to suggest adding "PPA" or "editing source.list", but I recommend you to avoid it unless the maintainer of the "PPA" in question is indeed a free/libre software activist. In fact, I found out that some individual packages from third-parties (not related to us free/libre software community) often add more PPAs without the user's consent. apt-get isn't distro specific. However, some distros choose to use it by default, while some others use other package managers. About the Free Software Directory: it's a collaborative attempt to list free/libre software. However, it's not always perfect, and somethings might be missing. It's better to complement the checking by visiting the other free/libre distros' default repositories and paying attention to any differences between what you are installing and what the other free/libre distros would tell the user to install. The Free Software Directory, as I just said, is a collaborative effort, and as such, if you can, please consider making small contributions to it
Re: [Trisquel-users] What system configurations do you change?
Hmm, I was distracted and I think I missed the point, I thought it was more about system customization, not about 'preload' and so on. I like my Debian as it is by default as far as RAM, cache, swap (it never gets used, always at 0).. The developers seem to do a pretty nice work out of it. The system is snappy and smooth on a 10 yr old laptop :P Also wanted to point out that the above mentioned long customization time is something you do only once and then backup your /home, so it's definitely worth it, especially putting some time to secure a little bit more your distro. Do it once and forget it.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Flatpak on Trisquel 7
$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:alexlarsson/flatpak [sudo] password for *: Linux application sandboxing and distribution framework (formerly xdg-app) Meer info: https://launchpad.net/~alexlarsson/+archive/ubuntu/flatpak Druk op [ENTER] om door te gaan of op ctrl-c om het toevoegen ervan te annuleren gpg: sleutelring `/tmp/tmp98_sf31h/secring.gpg' is aangemaakt gpg: sleutelring `/tmp/tmp98_sf31h/pubring.gpg' is aangemaakt gpg: opvragen sleutel FA577F07 van hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com gpg: /tmp/tmp98_sf31h/trustdb.gpg: betrouwbaarheidsdatabank (trustdb) aangemaakt gpg: sleutel FA577F07: publieke sleutel "Launchpad PPA for Alexander Larsson" geïmporteerd gpg: Totaal aantal verwerkt: 1 gpg: geïmporteerd: 1 (RSA: 1) OK - $ sudo apt-get update Geraakt http://archive.trisquel.info belenos InRelease Geraakt http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty InRelease Geraakt http://archive.trisquel.info belenos-updates InRelease Geraakt http://archive.trisquel.info belenos-security InRelease Geraakt http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main amd64 Packages Geraakt http://archive.trisquel.info belenos-backports InRelease Geraakt http://archive.trisquel.info belenos/main amd64 Packages Geraakt http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main Translation-en Geraakt http://archive.trisquel.info belenos/main Translation-nl Geraakt http://archive.trisquel.info belenos/main Translation-en Geraakt http://archive.trisquel.info belenos-updates/main amd64 Packages Geraakt http://archive.trisquel.info belenos-security/main amd64 Packages Geraakt http://archive.trisquel.info belenos-backports/main amd64 Packages Genegeerd http://archive.trisquel.info belenos/main Translation-nl_NL Genegeerd http://archive.trisquel.info belenos-updates/main Translation-nl_NL Genegeerd http://archive.trisquel.info belenos-updates/main Translation-nl Genegeerd http://archive.trisquel.info belenos-updates/main Translation-en Genegeerd http://archive.trisquel.info belenos-security/main Translation-nl_NL Genegeerd http://archive.trisquel.info belenos-security/main Translation-nl Genegeerd http://archive.trisquel.info belenos-security/main Translation-en Genegeerd http://archive.trisquel.info belenos-backports/main Translation-nl_NL Genegeerd http://archive.trisquel.info belenos-backports/main Translation-nl Genegeerd http://archive.trisquel.info belenos-backports/main Translation-en Pakketlijsten worden ingelezen... Klaar
Re: [Trisquel-users] What system configurations do you change?
>'we give you the bare system with no bloat or customization and you make it as you better like it' :) I didn't know Debian was using Parabola as it's base :') :D
Re: [Trisquel-users] Flatpak on Trisquel 7
That's weird. What did you do and what's the output? Did you read your terminal when installing?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Flatpak on Trisquel 7
If I can let the Softphone project manage the VOIP phone connection, then I can take the step to use a libre cmc router, and ditch the physical phone. Not everybody can be a professional programmer/hacker. Don't worry, I'm from the Netherlands :-)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Flatpak on Trisquel 7
>ppa :'(
Re: [Trisquel-users] What system configurations do you change?
>What system configurations do you change? I run Debian Xfce, which by itself, meaning by default, is very frugal and looking like crap and the amount of 'things' I need to change is very long indeed. Let's say it used to take an hour when I first started with debianino but now it would take me minimum 4 hrs.. But that again is exactly one of the main reasons I love Debian so much, the philosophy of 'we give you the bare system with no bloat or customization and you make it as you better like it' :) Also in this process of customization you get to know a lot about you distro, it's entertaining. noice tread, but let's have some porn too. Me, same old, I know I'm boring, but it's so sweet :P https://framapic.org/3fSBxPvTzWEh/MU2ybGh07bNV.png
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot T400 Review!
This is very kind and I really appreciate it. I will email you what you have asked me for tonight. Thank you. Cheers
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel not detecting ThinkPenguin wifi adapter after install
I deleted the mail itself by finding it via http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_Thunderbird#Linux_and_Unix although after reading Magic Bannana's comment and taking a look at my log folder I believe that the repeating firmware error was the real cause of my shrinking disk space. Thanks again, and yes I learned. I appreciate you explaining the steps.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel not detecting ThinkPenguin wifi adapter after install
I didn't realize all of those messages were being logged, but it explains why as we worked on this my remaining disc space shrank from a few hundred MB to 0. I'll try your other suggestions as well. Thanks!
Re: [Trisquel-users] Flatpak on Trisquel 7
Thank you. Tried again to install the PPA (https://launchpad.net/~alexlarsson/+archive/ubuntu/flatpak), after that if I run the command flatpak it says command not found. I don't know if it's me or the PPA, but since it's built for Ubuntu, I can't complain.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Syslog and Kern.log
I figured it out, Davide! Mr. Banana and I are in complete agreement that the next thing you need to do is see what happens when you disable your wifi. I was just too tired and stressed out to understand what he was saying. Editing the configuration files which I posted upthread is how I personally disable proprietary wifi cards but it isn't the only possible option for disabling wifi cards in Trisquel. I need to get some sleep before I log into my account again. My bad, just me being me again, carry on.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Flatpak on Trisquel 7
Flatpak is just a way to install software, the softphone application or any other software you might want to install via flatpak won't be there. You gotta install flatpak with the PPA and then download the software you want and install it with Flatpak. However, I don't know which package is the one you want to install and if it is free software, so I can't help you more than that. You should check if what you are going to install is free software, as Trisquel can't do it for you.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot T400 Review!
As a special courtesy: yes. I'm feeling generous today. Email me your original order details, and confirm your current shipping details. I'll ship you a T400, and then you can return your X200 at your leisure.
[Trisquel-users] Flatpak on Trisquel 7
Hi all, I'm new here. Running Trisquel 7. Want to run Softphone (program to manage VOIP phone through internet). It requires an app inside Flatpak. Flatpak isn't in the Trisquel repo. I found a PPA for Flatpak, but it didn't contain the Softphone app. Flatpak is supported in the Debian repo, but I don't know if it is possible/advisable to use a Debian repo aside from Trisquel just to use Flatpak. Thank you.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot T400 Review!
Hi Leah do you mean what you wrote stands for me too? That would be nice (expecially swapping my x200 with a T400 at no extra cost) but I my warranty is not valid any longer. Thanks anyway Cheers
Re: [Trisquel-users] Command execution problem
Great :)
[Trisquel-users] What system configurations do you change?
Hi, I've tried to learn as much as I can to make my experience with GNU/Linux the best. So there are a few things I change in my system to make it go faster. For example I always change swappiness to 1 in SSD and to 10 in HDD. Swappiness value controls the Linux kernel’s tendency to swap – that is, move information out of RAM and onto the swap file on the disk. It accepts a value between 0 and 100. 0: The kernel will avoid swapping process out of physical memory and onto the swap partition for as long as possible. 100: The kernel will aggressively swap processes out of physical memory and onto the swap partition as soon as possible. As RAM is much faster than drives I prefer to have the less so my experience is faster. This doesn't apply to servers or computers with little RAM. But in general it makes my experience faster. I also tweak Firefox (or libre version as Iceweasel, Icecat or Abrowser) to don't save cache. I've always installed preload but I don't really know if I have a real boost. But I still think it works better than nothing. On my laptop I always install TLP. You can read a bit more about how to do those things here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Firefox/Tweaks https://www.howtogeek.com/115797/6-ways-to-speed-up-ubuntu/ https://itsfoss.com/speed-up-ubuntu-1310/ This are a few things I change in my system, what things do you do?
[Trisquel-users] Re : Syslog and Kern.log
The kernel messages look more "low-level" to me. But, again, it is very probable that I am wrong! Over the years, I have been wrong multiple times in this forum. I would first try deactivating the Wifi, as I wrote in the message above.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel not detecting ThinkPenguin wifi adapter after install
This is really good advice. I hope you learned and enjoyed fixing your computer. As you can see the main way to solve a problem is generally looking at the error and looking for it in the internet. Sometimes the error has multiple lines and only one of them is the answer. If you ever have a problem with a program you don't know what is wrong. Try to launch it from the terminal. You can launch any program from tho terminal just type "thunderbird" or "abrowser". By the way there is a difference between your data and thinderb
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot T400 on Minifree reduces in price once again
Excellent. If you have any questions about Libreboot, you can ask on #libreboot IRC in freenode
Re: [Trisquel-users] Syslog and Kern.log
Pardon me, but so many of my heroes are toppling from their pedestals and you are one of them, Mr. Banana. It looks a different card than my older model thinkpads, but in the back of my mind I keep having this niggling suspicion that I might not have been completely off base upthread. If it were my computer or I were setting it up for a friend, I would try editing network interfaces and rc.local (while saving the originals) before giving up on the hardware.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot T400 Review!
Hi Thomas, See: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/libreboot-t400-review-0#comment-118195 This issue no longer exists with Minifree laptops. ~Leah
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot T400 Review!
Hi, See my reply at https://trisquel.info/en/forum/libreboot-t400-review-0#comment-118195
Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot T400 Review!
Hi J.B. Nicholson-Owens, My parents smoke, and Minifree used to operate from my parents house. I moved out in April 2016 and since then, Minifree has operated from a smoke-free home :) If someone who works for me is a smoker, I make them go outside into my back garden when they want to light up. Rest assured: laptops that you order from Minifree these days will not smell of stale cigarette smoke. ~Leah
[Trisquel-users] Re : Syslog and Kern.log
It is very probable that my hypothesis ("*maybe* the hardware is defective")
is wrong. Do you have another hypothesis? Or do you disagree that the
problem "*apparently* is with the Wifi"? That is easy to test:
Disconnect the Wifi (with the related Fn key on the keyboard or physically,
e.g., if it is a USB adapter, maybe deactivating Wifi from NetworkManager is
enough);
Save some space on the root partition (see
https://trisquel.info/forum/trisquel-not-detecting-thinkpenguin-wifi-adapter-after-install#comment-118193
that I have just written);
See if the message keeps on being logged in kern.log, looking at the live
output of 'tail -F /var/log/kern.log' or with 'less /var/log/kern.log' after
working a little (using Ethernet if the network is needed) or searching for
pieces of it with 'grep'.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Command execution problem
It works and I have Libreboot installed.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Syslog and Kern.log
Davide, I am just going to state that I respectfully agree to disagree with Mr. Banana, with the caveat that since you do not know the culture of the board you have no way of knowing that I can't believe I'm actually saying this
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel not detecting ThinkPenguin wifi adapter after install
This worked! I had to use 'sudo apt-get purge thunderbird*' to get clear up some disk space because running 'update-initramfs -u' gave me 'cp:fails to extend ...: No space left on the device' but after that I was able to restart and rerun that command, and after one more restart I can log in again. Thanks albertoefg for the time and effort you put to walking me through this. Thanks jxself for your input as well.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Can't open encrypted HDD
Did you try with the other machine, the one that did work to open the disk and change file permissions??
Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel not detecting ThinkPenguin wifi adapter after install
That is exactly the direction. Change directory to /etc/modprobe.d/ To do this in the terminal as root type this cd /etc/modprobe.d/ cd stands for Change Directory. After that you can create the file nano iwl3945.conf This will open the nano editor you should be able to type what you need. And after that close it with ctrl-x it will ask you to save changes hit the proper key as nano will show it. Nano has the advantage that at the bottom you will see most useful commands. But, if in doubt you can search internet for tutorials on how to use it. There are others like Vim or Vi but nano is really friendly for beginners. Don't worry we are closer to a fix now :) follow jxself steps and you will be safe.
