Re: [Trisquel-users] I found a new libre distro you all might be interested in...

2017-08-19 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
You're welcome! :)


[Trisquel-users] Antwort: Hidden WLAN issue on Debain with XFCE too

2017-08-19 Thread onsemeliot
Yes, ist is NOT hidden and it still doesn't show up. Therefore it looks like  
it would be hidden even if it actually isn't.


Re: [Trisquel-users] I found a new libre distro you all might be interested in...

2017-08-19 Thread b_e_n

Thanks for the info!


Re: [Trisquel-users] I found a new libre distro you all might be interested in...

2017-08-19 Thread dahunt
But, that would be a closed curve, and we dont' want that.  LOL  


Re: [Trisquel-users] ar9271 works on debian 9 64bit main?

2017-08-19 Thread legimet . calc

> What is this?

It is a privacy feature. You can read about it here:  
https://blogs.gnome.org/thaller/2016/08/26/mac-address-spoofing-in-networkmanager-1-4-0/.  
This feature is enabled in Debian 9, but not in Debian 8. Unfortunately it  
breaks ath9k-htc USB adapters.


> I want to file a report to debian about the firmware not being in debian 9  
main 64bit and if you install the firmware debian package, it does not work.  
What should I write debian?


It takes time to package stuff. It takes a long time just for someone to  
volunteer to do it. The firmware reached the Debian repos after the stretch  
freeze, so it was too late for Debian 9. Also, I don't know which source code  
you're looking at, but it is a lot more than 1100 lines (not that this  
matters).


> Version 1.3 1 is not the latest version?
> Where can I download the latest fw file?
> Which version is the latest version?

No, the latest version is 1.4.0. It is included in the main (AKA free  
software only repo) of Debian sid (unstable). If you want to install it, just  
run this in a root shell:


dpkg -P open-ath9k-htc-firmware
TMP=$(mktemp -p /etc/apt/sources.list.d --suffix=.list)
echo 'deb http://deb.debian.org/debian sid main' >> "$TMP"
apt update
apt install firmware-ath9k-htc
rm "$TMP"
apt update


Re: [Trisquel-users] I found a new libre distro you all might be interested in...

2017-08-19 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
The space bar issue is related to GNU ncurses.

Esc = Go back or exit (depends on implementation).

Tab = Switches focus to next group of options.

Arrows = Highlights options if they are not text areas. If they are text
area, goes to some character (forward or backward).

Space = Selects the current option.

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Re: [Trisquel-users] possible to support f2fs filesystem with trisquel 7?

2017-08-19 Thread happy_gnu

I installed Parabola in an encrypted / with f2fs and btrfs in /boot

Grub doesn't support F2FS you will need syslinux

Here is the tutorial I used:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQxk1uUQ-pQ

The video is pretty straightforward.


Don't be afraid of Parabola it works great and it hasn't give me a problem in  
over 6 months.


If you decide to use this tutorial just remember to update syslinux every  
time you update the kernel.  But you will see how to do it in the tutorial.





[Trisquel-users] possible to support f2fs filesystem with trisquel 7?

2017-08-19 Thread sora
I have a flash drive in which I'd like to install trisquel 7.0 since there  
are many debates on what filesystem will make your flash memory live longer I  
have decided to use the F2FS filesystem however trisquel 7 has the kernel  
3.13 Is there any way to install a more recent kernel version? I also want to  
create a customized live environment for trisquel as I do on debian but I  
have not found any tutorial in creating a live usb iso-hdd for trisquel. but  
it looks like theres not much differences from ubuntu and debian since ubuntu  
is based on debian which is trisquel is based on


trisquel > ubuntu > debian


Re: [Trisquel-users] Hidden WLAN issue on Debain with XFCE too

2017-08-19 Thread sora
asus 1015px has a proprietory broadcom 4313 wifi + bluetooth mini pcie card.  
it can be replaced with an open source one like ar5b95. I have not tried  
connecting to a hidden wifi though, debian stretch (custom live persitene)  
appears to be working fine in my 1015px (liberated with ar5b95 but the BIOS  
is not possible to be librebooted :( ).




Re: [Trisquel-users] Hidden WLAN issue on Debain with XFCE too

2017-08-19 Thread greatgnu

Hidden as in not broadcasting SSID? The anti-feature pseudo-sec practice? :P


Re: [Trisquel-users] A new forums member saying hello

2017-08-19 Thread greatgnu

welcome in, mate pengnu


Re: [Trisquel-users] TALOS II Secure Workstation, from Raptor Engineering

2017-08-19 Thread greatgnu

yeah, leah, that's what I was referring to with my inane comment :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-08-19 Thread strypey
"If you really don't dare to flash the phone yourself, then ask a somewhat  
technically skilled friend."


I think you are presuming much more widespread availability of advanced  
technical skills than is generally the case. I am one of the most technically  
skilled people I know. Although I could probably work out how to flash a  
handheld computer given enough time, I have no idea how long all that would  
take, and there's no guarantee I wouldn't brick a device or two before I got  
it right. I can't think of anyone in my family and friends circles who has  
flashed a new OS onto a device. For that matter, I am one of the only people  
in those circles who knows how to install an OS on a desktop or laptop.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Smart Phone Recommendations, Please

2017-08-19 Thread strypey
"Land line phones get power from the line to which they are connected, so  
they will also work in the event the power goes out instead of running low on  
battery power."


This is not true of all landline devices, many of which provide extra  
features like cordless handsets and answer machines, and require plugging  
into a normal power socket to function. Also, a cell phone's need for battery  
power can be mitigated somewhat by buying a small solar charger (photovoltaic  
panel). A friend got one from a big box retail store for NZ$15. Some MIT  
researchers have invented transparent solar cells that could be incorporated  
into the screens of the next generation of portable computers (of any form  
factor), allowing constant trickle charging when there is a sufficiently  
strong light source:

http://energy.mit.edu/news/transparent-solar-cells/

BTW I've heard that in my country there is a plan underway to abandon the  
copper phone lines that support the landline experience J.B. Nicholson-Owens  
describes, and replace them with fibre-optic cables to the house and VoIP. I  
think this is foolish, because of the benefits of a traditional landline that  
J.B. describes. But I have to admit I don't know if it's practical to  
maintain the copper line network in parallel with the fibre network long  
term, or what it would cost. It may be that the costs really do outweigh the  
benefits.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to be free

2017-08-19 Thread strypey
"With a landline, by contrast, the most that can be determined is whether or  
not you have taken any calls placed through, and whether or not you placed  
any calls"


Actually, the only thing that can be determined by default is whose name the  
landline is registered in, and that *someone* received a call on that  
landline, and from what phone number, or that *someone* made a call from that  
landline, and the number called (unless there is a human listening in who  
knows your voice, or a *very* impressive voice-recognition algorithm). Of  
course police and other state agencies have long-standing powers to tap  
people's phones, record their conversations, and so on, and in many countries  
(including mine) these powers have recently been significantly expanded to  
allow state agents to tap directly into telecoms systems, and monitor  
people's call without reasonable suspicion ('probably cause' in legal jargon)  
or a warrant.


I agree though that using a cell phone adds to your attack surface, and using  
a handheld computer as a cell phone adds significantly more, and that we're  
only just beginning to figure out how to mitigate this. Ultimately it comes  
down to a cost/benefit analysis; do the benefits you gain from using a cell  
phone (or a "smartphone") outweigh the costs of making it much easier to  
track and spy on you?


I do currently use an old school dumbphone for voice calls and texts (SMS),  
but I treat it as the tracking device it is, and turn it off or leave it  
behind as appropriate (although this too has some risk of attracting unwanted  
attention just as using PGP for email does). I have a couple of second-hand  
Android devices, which are useful for quick net tasks while traveling like  
checking directions or finding a cafe that serves vegan food, but I only turn  
them on when I need them, and I don't usually put a SIM card in them.


Re: [Trisquel-users] What's wrong with OpenMailBox?

2017-08-19 Thread strypey
I find this attitude weird. Sure, it would be naive to think using an email  
host who use libre software magically makes your email more secure (it  
doesn't for all the reasons discussed in the threads about OMB), but if early  
adopters and software freedom champions don't support services like OMB (or  
use GNU Social instead of the birdsite) in their experimental stages, how  
will reliable, sustainable, privacy-respecting hosts ever come into  
existence? Despite my criticisms of OMB on the more recent thread, I'd much  
rather support the network effect of a provider that uses 100% free software  
(as confirmed by their FSF endorsement) than one which refuses to disclose  
what software they use or what license covers it, or to share all the code  
they write for their service.


Re: [Trisquel-users] What's wrong with OpenMailBox?

2017-08-19 Thread strypey
I can't see why how encrypting user data prevents them making backups of it.  
Or are you just saying that they don't do backups for some other reason, and  
it's a downside of their service.


Re: [Trisquel-users] What's wrong with OpenMailBox?

2017-08-19 Thread strypey
All this talk about hiding your email from the spooks misses the point. The  
most important reason to use a libre host for email (or any other  
server-based system) is the same as the reason for using a libre OS - to  
support and encourage increased use of free code software, and reduce  
dependencies on proprietary software wherever possible. Reducing the attack  
surface available to entities wanting to spy on or mess with you is just a  
bonus.


Given everything we've learned about the masses of surveillance machinery  
that has been built to monitor the internet, at this point any non-specialist  
using the internet to communicate about illegal stuff might as well print out  
a copy and post it to their local police station. That said, one good reason  
for learning about the various vulnerabilities, and how to mitigate them  
where possible, is to be part of building and testing the various moving  
parts that might one day add up to an internet where reliably private  
communication is possible.


Re: [Trisquel-users] What service do you recommend to replace OpenMailBox

2017-08-19 Thread strypey
Service sustainability is a major sticking point. I don't want to use GMail,  
despite it being a convenient and reliable service from a naive user POV, for  
the same reason I don't want to use FarceBook or Skype (contributing to their  
network effect). But I also don't want to be constantly having to up sticks  
and move from one fringe service to another, with all the loss of data/  
contacts, and other disruptions this involves.


I set up an OpenMailBox account to separate out my personal (friends and  
family) email from correspondence related to activist work (for which I use  
RiseUp). I'm not opposed to paying a fair price for a hosted service - being  
the customer may be the only viable alternative to being the product - but I  
think there are some things it is unethical to charge for, and the ability to  
export user data  is one of them (eg POP3/ IMAP access to email). Even if OMB  
hadn't made this unethical pricing decision, the fact their user forum went  
offline for months with no communication from OMB about why, or about their  
plans to switch to new software and pricing model, and the way their new  
software broke many of the ways I was using their service, leave me far from  
convinced they are a reliable long term host. So, I'm now on the hunt for a  
replacement too. I thank those who have posted recommendations and reviews  
here, and will do the same for the services I'm aware of.


Re: [Trisquel-users] What service do you recommend to replace OpenMailBox

2017-08-19 Thread strypey
I have used RiseUp.net email for more than a decade. They are a fantastic  
service, aimed at supporting people doing activist work. They use only free  
software on principle, and because of their activist focus, they place a high  
priority on constantly improving security and avoiding handing over user data  
to any third party, governmental or commercial. They own their own bare metal  
servers, which are hosted in a colocation facility they help to run. They are  
funded by donations, and run a fund-raising drive once a year to cover their  
costs.


There are only two major downsides to using RiseUp for email. New accounts  
have to be manually approved by admins - it speeds things up if you can get  
endorsement from existing users - and you have to give some information about  
the kinds of activism you will use the account to support (this could include  
software freedom advocacy). The second issue, related to the first, is that  
they could not cope if everyone who wants a free code powered tried to sign  
up with them. The service depends on a team of trusted volunteers, and  
donations to cover their external costs, and there are hard limits to their  
ability to scale up their service to accommodate more users.


There is a desperate need for more organisations that can roll out the type  
of technical infrastructure that RiseUp have assembled, but aimed at people  
using email for normal personal or business use (supporting custom domains  
etc). I'd love to see groups like RiseUp putting out detailed documentation  
on exactly what software they use, and how they set it up (eg how many  
physical and virtual servers they use, and how the various services are  
divided amongst them), so their services can be replicated by other groups  
wanting to set up similar service, or to self host.


[Trisquel-users] Hidden WLAN issue on Debain with XFCE too

2017-08-19 Thread onsemeliot
I just wanted to let you know that I do have a similar issue of not being  
able to connect to a hidden wireless on Debain Stretch with XFCE on an Asus  
EeePC 1015px.


It might not be the same problem entirely since I can't connect to my own  
network even if it is not hidden. It doesn't even show up in the list of  
available networks. But I can use an open public access point of an other  
wireless, but is to slow for most purposes. Therefore, I assume in principle  
all works fine but there seems to be a problem with how my own router is  
configured. On other systems (different laptops from Dell, Acer and Lenovo  
with Trisquel, Ubuntu and Debian) my private wireless works just fine.


Re: [Trisquel-users] ar9271 works on debian 9 64bit main?

2017-08-19 Thread svhaab

> MAC address randomization during scanning
What is this?

> This is a known bug
But only about debian 9? On debian 8 no address randomization error?

> This is a known bug
I want to file a report to debian about the firmware not being in
debian 9 main 64bit and if you install the firmware debian
package, it does not work. What should I write debian?

> (from Debian sid main).
Is debian sid main a libre software repository?

> firmware-ath9k-htc
Version 1.3 1 is not the latest version?
Where can I download the latest fw file?
Which version is the latest version?

The firmware file is libre software. I have looked at the source
software in an editor. It is about 1100 lines of code. Is
editing the software in order to get it compatible with
debian 9 that difficult, that it reasons, that no one has
done the editing? Or no skilled programmar has been aware of
the error?


Re: [Trisquel-users] I found a new libre distro you all might be interested in...

2017-08-19 Thread davesamcdxv

surely both work with OpenRC (which is what Hyperbola is going with IIRC)?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Libreboot T400 Review!

2017-08-19 Thread info

Thank you for your review :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] I found a new libre distro you all might be interested in...

2017-08-19 Thread vitacell
Most important thing for me it is non-systemd GNU/Linux distros, I love Arch  
or Parabola, but it is a pain to struggle with systemd.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Kernel problem?

2017-08-19 Thread intheforest
I will never do it again.