Re: [Trisquel-users] System backup snapshots

2020-07-23 Thread amuza
"What about installing it from Debian's current stable (buster) repository?" So, I guess that was some kind of misunderstanding and there is no way to install Timeshift in Trisquel8 from Buster's repository. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Re: [Trisquel-users] System backup snapshots

2020-07-23 Thread amuza
At http://jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso-etiona/iso/ I see there are Triskel and Trisquel iso files, what's the difference?

[Trisquel-users] Optimizing Trisquel for Offline Computing

2020-07-23 Thread Caleb Herbert
EndlessOS is designed to provide a good offline computing experience. What could be done to implement something similar on Trisquel? I'd like some things to update when internet is available, but for everything to generally work in offline mode, and for a good library of general information

[Trisquel-users] Re : System backup snapshots

2020-07-23 Thread lcerf
triskel and trisquel (notice the spelling difference) provide different sets of default packages. Mainly, triskel comes with the KDE desktop environment and trisquel with the MATE desktop environment. You can have the full list of packages in any ISO by reading the file with the same URL

[Trisquel-users] Re : System backup snapshots

2020-07-23 Thread lcerf
If the package does not require recent versions of its dependencies, it can be installed on an older distribution. Downloading the package on https://packages.debian.org/buster/amd64/timeshift/download and double-clicking on it, GDebi, which is installed by default, tells some dependency

Re: [Trisquel-users] Optimizing Trisquel for Offline Computing

2020-07-23 Thread enduzzer
I had never heard of EndlessOS, so I downloaded the 16.5 GB ISO and tried it in a VM. It could be useful as a restricted "Prison OS" for inmates in a correctional facility where everybody is basically incommunicado, cut off from access to the outside world. I think that even the criminal

[Trisquel-users] "Your browser is being managed by your organization" in abrowser (malware!?)

2020-07-23 Thread edwardtfht8
Recently I started to see "Your browser is being managed by your organization." that does not let me chamnge settings in Privacy tab of Preferences of Abrowser. After I tried to search what it is I saw a lot of answers in Mozilla that it is avast related malware and such antivirus

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hidden user agent?

2020-07-23 Thread andyprough
Yeah, but now I'm trying to swoop in and hijack the topic and take all the credit for it, because it's really important and I don't want you getting any credit. Because that's what friends do for each other.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hidden user agent?

2020-07-23 Thread andyprough
> Ungoogled Chromium does not. Not sure whether that qualifies as "major", but I would say the same about Icecat. Maybe I should try ungoogled-chromium again. Last year I recall they were not making recent binaries available for Debian-based systems, and I tried building it and failed

[Trisquel-users] Re : Hidden user agent?

2020-07-23 Thread lcerf
My understanding is that Trisquel receives a cut of the ad revenue when Trisquel users view ads on DuckDuckGo, and this parameter is used to indicate to DuckDuckGo that a user was referred from Trisquel. It looks so: https://help.duckduckgo.com/privacy/t/ It might be a fingprinting risk,

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hidden user agent?

2020-07-23 Thread bobandrew
> It looks so: https://help.duckduckgo.com/privacy/t/ Right, and Trisquel is indeed listed here: https://help.duckduckgo.com/desktop/linux-distributions But the partnership with DDG is not listed on the abrowser-help page, so I might add it, so users can choose to willfully contribute to

Re: [Trisquel-users] "Your browser is being managed by your organization" in abrowser (malware!?)

2020-07-23 Thread bobandrew
This is no bug, no malware, this is a feature. This is routine takeover by the FSF (or GNU, depending on your timezone) of all Trisquel GNU/Linux machines. It will disappear soon after they got all your passwords and keys in order to use your machine as a propagation bot, and you as a

[Trisquel-users] Re : Hidden user agent?

2020-07-23 Thread lcerf
I do not understand that. The user can choose to send cookies to DDG even if DDG is not supposed to use them? If the user changes anything on https://duckduckgo.com/settings a cookie is stored, so that the changes are locally saved and can be applied for the subsequent searches. I do not

Re: [Trisquel-users] "Your browser is being managed by your organization" in abrowser (malware!?)

2020-07-23 Thread mason
Firefox-based browsers support system-wide policies which on GNU/Linux are defined in a policies.json file. Avast is malware disguised as antivirus software, which among other invasive things edits users browser policies. Avast only plagues Windows though, so that's not your problem. See

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hidden user agent?

2020-07-23 Thread mason
> Maybe I should try ungoogled-chromium again. Last year I recall they were not making recent binaries available for Debian-based systems, and I tried building it and failed tragically. Chromium-based browsers take a lot of resources or a long ass time to compile. It takes about two days

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hidden user agent?

2020-07-23 Thread mason
> What are these concerns about legal liability in relation to Searx exactly? IIRC he was concerned about potentially serving illegal content.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hidden user agent?

2020-07-23 Thread mason
> If DuckDuckGo honors its privacy policy, it uses no cookie (unless the user changes its settings) and stores neither user agents nor IP addresses: Yes, but there is no way to know that DDG does honor its privacy policy. If they published their source code under a free license, there would

Re: [Trisquel-users] Optimizing Trisquel for Offline Computing

2020-07-23 Thread Red Starfish
On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 02:47:35 -0500 Caleb Herbert wrote: > EndlessOS is designed to provide a good offline computing experience. > What could be done to implement something similar on Trisquel? > > I'd like some things to update when internet is available, but for > everything to generally work

Re: [Trisquel-users] Optimizing Trisquel for Offline Computing

2020-07-23 Thread bobandrew
I fail to see how this relates to Trisquel. One could use sneakernet on any OS.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Optimizing Trisquel for Offline Computing

2020-07-23 Thread Caleb Herbert
I just don't have internet. Not a prison or anything. O_O -- Caleb Herbert KE0VVT (816) 892-9669 https://bluehome.net/csh

Re: [Trisquel-users] Optimizing Trisquel for Offline Computing

2020-07-23 Thread enduzzer
In Cuba, they use "paquetes semanales", that is, sneakernet. File sharing on USB storage. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Paquete_Semanal The whole Wikipedia can be downloaded as a compressed file about 16 GB. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download The "prison"

Re: [Trisquel-users] Optimizing Trisquel for Offline Computing

2020-07-23 Thread bobandrew
The wikipedia page on El Paquete Semanial says: "Some have theorized that the lack of pornographic material and lack of anti-government views in the package may indicate the Cuban government is involved in its production". I disagree. Lack of pornographic material is a well known source of

Re: [Trisquel-users] Optimizing Trisquel for Offline Computing

2020-07-23 Thread Caleb Herbert
On 23.7.2020 12:24, enduz...@riseup.net wrote: > In Cuba, they use "paquetes semanales", that is, sneakernet. File > sharing on USB storage. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Paquete_Semanal Yes, I was thinking of something like that. -- Caleb Herbert KE0VVT (816) 892-9669

[Trisquel-users] Hidden user agent?

2020-07-23 Thread bobandrew
If I fake my user agent as in the attached screenshot, I still get "trisquel" mentioned in the duckduckgo query url. Where does it read that from? If duckduckgo can get it, it means everyone else can get it too. Combined with any faked user agent it makes you as stealth as a mountain troll

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hidden user agent?

2020-07-23 Thread mason
> Every (major/modern) browser I know of does it to earn income, maybe not IceCat, not sure about that one. Ungoogled Chromium does not. Not sure whether that qualifies as "major", but I would say the same about Icecat. > But I'm also not sure that IceCat is actively maintained any

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hidden user agent?

2020-07-23 Thread bobandrew
>> Every (major/modern) browser I know of does it to earn income, maybe not IceCat, not sure about that one. > Ungoogled Chromium does not. Not sure whether that qualifies as "major", but I would say the same about Icecat. That's good to know. I find the argument: "all the big ones do it,

Re: [Trisquel-users] 2FA

2020-07-23 Thread forestweb
Hi there, I had the same issue when finding a gui driven solution i got my attention to these : https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/Authenticator (GPL-3.0 License ) or https://github.com/paolostivanin/OTPClient (GPL-3.0 License ) i know here are specific apps and games not welcome(or

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hidden user agent?

2020-07-23 Thread bobandrew
Looking for some mention of this default behavior somewhere else in this forum, I found this discussion from a couple of months ago (1) : "> Would it be viable to run a Searx instance at search.trisquel.info to be the default search option in Abrowser? Or search.fsf.org, then it could be

Re: [Trisquel-users] System backup snapshots

2020-07-23 Thread amuza
Magic explanations!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 9 Etiona

2020-07-23 Thread rakubx
Hello all, I just updated a Development page and add relevant links (fresh iso images, bug reports, open issues): https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/development-0 Also you can find this page from -> go page down, then

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hidden user agent?

2020-07-23 Thread bobandrew
Thanks, they only need to read navigator.platform. I need to find where to modify this entry.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hidden user agent?

2020-07-23 Thread bobandrew
> Us users need to watch out for ourselves. Sure, that is exactly why I rose the issue.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hidden user agent?

2020-07-23 Thread mason
Out of the different services I've tried self-hosting, I would put Searx toward the easier end in terms of setting up. It would be a good one for beginners to start with. Gitea is a pretty easy one too.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Optimizing Trisquel for Offline Computing

2020-07-23 Thread mason
I took a look at EndlessOS a few weeks ago. There are some neat ideas, but freedom-wise it is probably the worst distro I have ever tried. They appear to only release source code when required to by the GPL. All of their software which is not a derivative of a GPL'd program is non-free.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hidden user agent?

2020-07-23 Thread andyprough
Yes, I installed it from OBS after writing that. Fairly responsive, although a bit heavy on the memory usage. Good to have it as an option.

Re: [Trisquel-users] System backup snapshots

2020-07-23 Thread mason
> The same happens if I try to install libgnutls-dev on my system. It looks like a bug... Yes, [first reported][1] in early 2019. Welcome to Trisquel. [1]: https://trisquel.info/en/issues/25393

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hidden user agent?

2020-07-23 Thread bobandrew
Well I would need to staff up my legal team in order to examine that issue thoroughly. At first glance, it seems that pointing to a meta-searx service querying random instances would solve the problem at once, and a few other ones, whatever arguments could be leveraged for or against any

Re: [Trisquel-users] Optimizing Trisquel for Offline Computing

2020-07-23 Thread enduzzer
"The user can't make any modifications. In order to use the distro, users must agree to a EULA which forbids the user from doing certain things with their own system." That feeling of incarceration prompted me to suggest that EndlessOS be used in a controlled prison environment where the

Re: [Trisquel-users] System backup snapshots

2020-07-23 Thread mason
> For security-critical packages such as libgnutls30, it is a significant problem: if you would install the version from Debian Buster and would not manually update it, it would stay at the present version until you update to Trisquel 10. Trisquel's version of libgnutls is not receving

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hidden user agent?

2020-07-23 Thread andyprough
I like this guy's video on creating your own self-hosted Searx search engine for yourself: https://invidio.us/watch?v=oufXi3e-VuA It's on my to-do list to give it a try someday.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Optimizing Trisquel for Offline Computing

2020-07-23 Thread enduzzer
EndlessOS also reminded me of North Korea's own distro Red Star OS. Red Star (Pulgunpyol) won't let the user change any system files (when tampering detected, the OS will reboot) and all files in home directory are watermarked.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Hidden user agent?

2020-07-23 Thread lcerf
I changed the default search engine to https://html.duckduckgo.com (visit the page, click on the magnifying glass in the search box, "Add DuckDuckGo (HTML)" and set it as the default search engine in the "Preferences"). I do not have that problem.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hidden user agent?

2020-07-23 Thread mason
> I still get "trisquel" mentioned in the duckduckgo query url. Where does it read that from? If duckduckgo can get it, it means everyone else can get it too. Abrowser's default search command adds that parameter. My understanding is that Trisquel receives a cut of the ad revenue when

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hidden user agent?

2020-07-23 Thread andyprough
Every (major/modern) browser I know of does it to earn income, maybe not IceCat, not sure about that one. But I'm also not sure that IceCat is actively maintained any longer. Us users need to watch out for ourselves.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hidden user agent?

2020-07-23 Thread bobandrew
What url do you land on if you try to search "banana"? If I do that, I land on https://duckduckgo.com/?q=banana=trisquel=web Duckduckgo is my default search engine.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hidden user agent?

2020-07-23 Thread bobandrew
...but still wow: "Abrowser's default search command adds that parameter. My understanding is that Trisquel receives a cut of the ad revenue when Trisquel users view ads on DuckDuckGo, and this parameter is used to indicate to DuckDuckGo that a user was referred from Trisquel." I am sure

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hidden user agent?

2020-07-23 Thread mason
> At least one other website seemed to be getting some info about my system, they sent me warning emails that I had been connecting from a "Linux" machine from a different IP address. Those are unrelated issues. They are probably getting "Linux" from your user agent. If you want to hide

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hidden user agent?

2020-07-23 Thread bobandrew
Sorry, I have not been precise enough. I was not trying to hide my IP, I was simply connecting from a different place to the same account. I am not able to connect to that account if I am using Tor. What triggered their email was most probably the different IP. I am not sure why they sent

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hidden user agent?

2020-07-23 Thread bobandrew
Thank you very much, I understand now. I am now landing here if I search "banana": https://html.duckduckgo.com/html/ At least one other website seemed to get some info about my system, they sent me warning emails that I had been connecting from a "Linux" machine from a different IP address.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Hidden user agent?

2020-07-23 Thread sabrinakitty
create a text file with these contents: document.write("userAgent: " + navigator.userAgent + "
" + "appCodeName: "
+ navigator.appCodeName + "
" + "appName: " + navigator.appName + "
" +
"appVersion: " + navigator.appVersion + "
" + "platform: " +