Telling me, a noob, to go read the code myself, when i already told you I
don't know how, is typical for some linux users to feed their ego.
Allanyone had to say is what lembda said. Its longer non free, a non-free
moduel is no longer required. simple. I would of said my mistake.
Great idea, thanks again.
It worked, but not completely.
When I sudo synaptic, it works.
From dmenu (it's a menu, as the name says), I can open synaptic-pkexec
instead of plain, non sudo synaptic.
a prompt pops up, but then it's synaptic without the the Trisquel theme.
Maybe it will be ok
Corporations have just as much incentives to spy on you, if not more.
Thanks, I'll definitely check these out.
I was quoting rms well known statement about more eyes on the code.
Do you mean Linus' law? That: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus%27s_Law
That is not rms'.
if thats true, then I guess like linus, stallman also doesn't care about
security, and its no wonder the world is getting more and more hacked around
us.
Kind of contradicting though to be against secrecy, and claim that has
nothing to do with open source, though, doesn't it?
Doing something just to be politically correct amongst your peers is not what
a leader does or is something I would agree with for the sake of it, or even
respect. Again social, ethical and political, are subjective words
without tangible meanings. You have to learn to define them so
I never claimed why it was started? You kept bringing it up.
I was quoting rms well known statement about more eyes on the code, I mean
back at MIT, he cracked peoples passwords to prove source code should be
open. Did you forget that too?
RMS is the one who says that himself in the documentaries the code and
revolutionary os
There may be local (non-web) clients to trade Bitcoin which are free as in
freedom. If your FOREX trading platform has a public API, then you can
develop or hire a developer to write a free software client; you may use one
such Bitcoin trading client as the starting point.
I don't want to be associated to a specific political movement just because
I'm a free software suporter.
The free software movement is a specific political movement.
I think these books might help you understand. (You can donwload or buy.)
http://shop.fsf.org/product/book_bundle/
I just removed compiz from my machine and didn't realize how much it fixed
the screen tearing for me. Now i notice some screen tearing without it.
If so, provided I disagree with the agenda, I might be leaning towards
open-source instead of free software.
So its just proprietary then?
looks like a question to me.
All he had to do was answer it. I shouldn't be told to read anything.
Many technology companies are in a position to spy, but it's not always
within there business model to do so, and could cause PR problems to do so.
It's these companies for which we have some hope provided the government
doesn't swoop in and restrict them from letting us have control over
Doing something just to be politically correct amongst your peers is not what
a leader does or is something I would agree with for the sake of it, or even
respect.
Can't you even consider that Jason simply agrees with Rubén?!
Again social, ethical and political, are subjective words
Abiword generally offers many plugins:
http://abiword.org/wiki/PluginMatrix
One of them is necessary to be able to read docx-files. But hardly any of the
plugins are in the Trisquel repositories.
Does anybody know a way to get them?
Packages for Ubuntu are not being built anymore:
It seems such software does not exist, but I thought I should give a shot
here just to make sure.
I am after FSF compliant forex trading software which runs natively from the
trisquel desktop, instead of a web browser.
I've tried searching for such software but have found nothing yet.
I didn't try that. I installed Trisquel only on saturday and made updates in
Synaptic. Now, with policykit, no problem with the update manager.
What about https://tutanota.de/?
jxself has just uploaded in his repository a new Linux-libre kernel that
should make the radeon module work:
https://trisquel.info/forum/video-using-amd-apu
Todays update was the following:
Modeled and added additional highrise building for the sc_tiles city
generating mutator. Its colormap is set to be randomly picked for each on of
this particular building, to give a nice view to your skyline.
(all buildings have interiors)
Generator placed
The standard edition has Duplicity and Deja Dup installed by default. On the
standard edition of Trisquel, click the start menu -- System Settings --
System -- Back Up.
If you are using Trisquel Mini or some other variation of Trisquel, and don't
have this backup software installed, you
Without trying to get offtpopic, do you also have the problem that the
update manager from the menu just crashes in trisquel mini, which is also
another policykit problem i believe. Alot of new users mention this and
might be a turn off.
you're doing the freedom boogie for a non-free module? Well maybe i'm
making a big deal over nothing but don't think we can claim 100% free if its
added to the trisquel kernel. At least its not closed source tk goodness.
Lets hope it stops here, otherwise we might as well use debian
So its just proprietary then? why wasn't it there in the first place?
I compiled my own kernel today with grsecurity. its running great.
Vsync is always a problem in gnulinux for me when playing some videos from
browser fullscreen. Not much you can do about it imo, even with the
proprietary driver.
If you are trying to get sound with hdmi? try the command pulseaudio -K in
terminal, reconnect hdmi and see if you see the
What the fuck is going on in thread?
I am religious but I am not psychotic. Quite frankly I don't think I would be
alone in my group of thinking corporations go way too far... and yes I agree
child adult marriage is way nuts...
Thanks for the clarification. They're definitely necessary.
I probably mixed up my feelings with imprecise information (my bad), hence my
previous comments.
It's just that I'm kind of put off by some comments that are not related to
computing and privacy, but to somehow extending the idea
Let us also not forget that with those backdoors gives plenty of potential
for hackers and corporations to enter for whatever reason.
This sounds like a good thing right?
Said almost no one ever..
Stating that the FSF doesn't support Windows 10 is like stating that the NRA
supports rifles.
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$ wget -q
http://cdimage.trisquel.info/trisquel-images/trisquel_7.0_amd64.iso.manifest
-O - | grep -e '^fonts' -e '^ttf'
fonts-beteckna 0.4-5ubuntu1
fonts-dejavu 2.34-1ubuntu1
fonts-dejavu-core 2.34-1ubuntu1
fonts-dejavu-extra 2.34-1ubuntu1
fonts-droid 1:4.3-3ubuntu1.1
fonts-dustin
No, it works around a problem in Radeon which has recently prevented it from
working with Linux-libre at all with most Radeon GPUs, resulting in a
fall-back to VESA which couldn't know the appropriate resolution of the
monitor. There's nothing proprietary here.
SuperTramp83
I don't trust you.
I was wondering though, could you show what free software projects you
contribute to. I am just wondering. What language is your favorite and what
is 2nd favorite.
(Also others can respond)
I have to admit that i'm naïvely assuming that a malicious company would be
out of business because of their actions being public. Recent history tells
me otherwise.
My reasoning was that if they have a malicious product, they're out of
business because of the justified bad press. Yeah
Thanks SuperTramp83 for your suggestions and links. I did try a few of the
methods detailed in the links but no success with Trisquel 6. Then recently,
as mentioned in other threads, I dual-booted Trisquel 7 on the same machine.
Eureka! I managed to get Mumble working on Trisquel 7. Next
so much for a blob free kernel. Can't you just make a separate kernel for
users who need radeon driver? Or is that unrealistic.
Why do you want a separate kernel?
You can use the 4.1.4 kernel to install radeon drivers from the jxself
repository. using jxself repository method scroll down on this link
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/update-linux-libre-kernel
I mean back at MIT, he also cracked peoples passwords to prove source code
should be open. Did you forget that too?
Yes, I'm aware of the password stuff at MIT but the motivations for this were
not to prove source code should be open so please don't mischaracterize
things. Rather, it was
I'm leaving trisquel and gnu/linux altogether.I might give open bsd a try
as a desktop. I hear their founders and community leaders actually pride its
default security.
Otherwise I'll juts stick with windows which i use for gaming anyways, and
since i care more about malcious hackers
Ive seen this video before. so freedom to control your own software, and
to cooperate/share with others
I think the problem is most people think freedom to control your own
software only applies to corporations and gov'ts and not unaffiliated
malicious hacker. I truly believe the
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpAKasXdrXI
Am I the Only one who has a bigger problem with Apple than Windows? The users
are more snooty and anti-Linux, if they know what it is.
Of course he cares about both privacy and security, but from the user's point
of view.
Using GNU/Linux over Windows for more privacy is a no-brainer. Windows
blatantly stated that they will do whatever they want with your data with
Windows 10.
For security, same thing.
After all, most
I didn't hear him say anything about that there.
how would i back it up for an ssh site though? Like tahoe-lafs?
I would like to have more than one place to back up my files on.
what does the server and the port needed for that? just curious.
Whatever the given reason is for this decision, you can rest assured that the
NSA is probably behind it. There's no easier way to spy on the country than
to make sure every router sold has a back door to facilitate it.
No, i don't know what that is.
Is the only way to get the plugins to delete abiword and install it newly
from there with the plugins?
If yes, it is strange that Abiword was chosen as Trisquel Mini's default
document editor. It's not only about wanting to read more formats (which is
very
Thanks.
I'm a bit concerned though about the fonts installed by default that don't
come with otf, or ttf or font in their package names.
Any such things?
So its just proprietary then?
No. I'm about as likely to distribute proprietary software as RMS is to buy
an iPhone. Why do you just assume there must be proprietary software? Where
do you get your information from? Do you just make it up? You have to be,
because if you were to actually
I'm more about the practical real tangible reasons.
Exactly.
Its the fact it could potentially be used for malcious purposes without my
knowledge or against my own wishes
That's very true. My position is that having cooperating communities is
important and this is why free software is
Privacy is the lowest common denominator.
But isn't why free software was started back in 1983. This is a continuation
of a conversation from IRC where I was discussing this with cooloutac where
cooloutac claimed free software was started for privacy and security
purposes. I tried showing
Compiling (or building) means turning the source code that humans can read
into binary that the computer can run.
Most packages follow the standard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_build_system making it easy to build them.
Abiword seems to have some docu here.
You don't need to be able to read code to understand this patch. If you see
the line Skipping firmware loading that's all you need to know. I don't
understand the code much either.
Read
http://cdimage.trisquel.info/trisquel-images/trisquel_7.0_amd64.iso.manifest
in its entirety if you want to know every single package on the ISO.
I understand and agree. That's what I call historical reasons in my
previous post. And I stated my point there, for what it's worth. I didn't
know about the reasons of this conversation with cooloutac though.
Either way, you said it best (quoting you): So we're really on the same
side: For
Screenshot?
Ok great to hear, tks for the reply.
Lembda has explained it and I'll take his word for it. I don't read code and
I didn't read the license. I won't be using your kernels anymore, but tks
for the hard work.
Sure, here they are.
Abrowser looks mostly fine (maybe the navigation bar is off).
With Synaptic, Claws and Thunar (and others), someting is missing.
Today's work was modeling another suburban house, one I saw in a dream awhile
ago (interior).
Also added farms (furrows).
Some code bugfixes pertaining to making sure any lowerclass/industrial areas
near an upperclass area are replaced with middleclass areas.
No. The radeon driver is free but it used to require a non-free binary blob
firmware. This is no longer the case. It's good to see you value freedom!
Well actually at the moment it is the best one. Openmailbox I think has
cookies attached to it. :(
Noscript picks up suspicious scripts on it.
and yes I know that it was on the list.
It is also the best one on the list though (at the moment.)
What do you mean? jxself provides the community with an APT repository of
linux-libre which is deblobbed. His post was informing us he has updated it
to include GNUtoo's patch to restore support for the radeon module.
so much for a blob free kernel
This patch does not introduce a blob, nor enable the loading of them, so I do
not understand your comment.
What are the names of the font packages installed by default in Trisquel's
LiveCD? (I always debootstrap and there seems to neither be an Ubuntu nor
Trisquel default font metapackage, apart from Ubuntu Studio's which seems to
ask for non-free fonts).
scroll down on this link ...
Or click directly to
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/update-linux-libre-kernel#toc8
:)
(you can dig the name of that anchor from the page source code, quite handy
sometimes, more info at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML_anchor#Anchor)
As onpon4 said, you need the four freedoms to properly inspect--
Freedom zero is the freedom to run the program for whatever purpose. This
allows you to observe back-doors, etc.
Freedom one is the freedom to study and modify the program. This allows you
to identify and remove malicious
all the guides I see are for well, debian.
Can someone tell me how I would go about installing and setting it up.
I tried to use the guides on the websites but they are a little beyond me.
I wondered if anyone could simplify what I need to do by telling me as simply
as possible.
On this page [1] it says
Note that plugins are not shipped separately anymore, but are shipped in the
main AbiWord installer that is available on our download page. Plugins can be
selected during the installation of AbiWord.
Have you tried compiling it?
1
Yeehaw! Thank you GNUtoo and thank you jxself!
*does the freedom boogie*
Here's a few programs you might want to try
https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/priority-projects/#Replaceskype
(fun fact: I was able to upvote myself)
-1? For what? I'm saying is that I'm AGREEING with the 4 freedoms (kinda
reluctantly, but agreeing). You should read twice before taking action,
whoever you are.
Yes, I'm also stating a different opinion, and it's not like my argument is
SANTO SUBITO! +1
What desktop shell are you using?
Many thanks David, very good idea :)
I found trisquel-gtk-theme in synaptic with 3 gtk engines inside.
It definitely improved abrowser and the file manager, even claws though it's
still a bit ugly, but there might be dedicated themes.
On the other hand, synaptic didn't change, even after
Right now I have a Trisquel Netinstall. I installed xorg, LightDM and i3wm
window manager.
I have no desktop environment, only i3wm.
I also already have lxappearance installed.
Have you tried changing he theme using lxappearance (and maybe installing the
package from Sysnaptic as well instead of simply copying from the CD, since
installing the package means that whatever packages the theme depend on will
be installed as well)?
Stop trolling cooloutac. Jxself isn't distributing anything with proprietary
software. If you actually looked at GNUtoo's patch (which isn't very big) you
would know this. But instead, you'll continue to accuse jxself of
distributing proprietary software.
I'm more about the practical real tangible reasons. Thats what I love so
much about this distro, You can tell that the devs are realy down to earth
and thats all they care about too, whats practical. Not whats popular or
socially acceptable.
When you say something is unethical, that
I may be wrong but I don't thinm Synaptic's to be blamed at all here.
Anyway, do you use Synaptic by su-ing and then entering su to the command as
root. If so, try using lxappearance as root.
Well, the only thing that might be of remote interest to you is GNU Cash
(http://www.gnucash.org/). However, I know that this is probably not the
solution you are looking for but maybe it can be tweaked a bit in order to
make it work for your purposes.
Thanks to Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli for his patch [0] to make the radeon kernel
module work again in free distros and not just fall over and die when the
proprietary firmware isn't there. I've made these changes to Linux-libre
version 4.1.4 in my APT repository. If you have such a card you may
Your stance on privacy and security was made evident on irc, hence my
skepticism.
That was only about the primary reason for using free software. For you, I
understand that the primary reasons for you to use it is over privacy and
security. For me, the primary reasons are the social,
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