Re: [Trisquel-users] Sent an Email to GNU.org about these 2 new Libre OS

2016-06-02 Thread pinmaritim
LibertyBSD has applied if you read the https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/gnu-linux-libre/2015-02/threads.html#00018 As for Uruk 1.0 it's not applied (unless i'm mistaken) https://uruk.tuxfamily.org/dist/en.html#about Librepup as well(?)but this project is often even unreachable by internet

Re: [Trisquel-users] Sent an Email to GNU.org about these 2 new Libre OS

2016-06-02 Thread t8mf4nu6lizp
> What do you think about these OS? Nothing. > Why haven't they still been approved? Have they officially asked to be included in the list? If yes, then they just must be patient. Of course if the process is taking years then maybe a poke is in order.

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
What's worse or if any of those it's good at all it's not relevant to what I said, you see. It's not about if Bernie or David Duke is good or bad, I'm not interest in who's right or wrong. My business is with bias media that attempts to control public opinion. Because if they control

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
I'm not defending white supremacist, I stand for the free speech of every one, whether he's European, Indian or a fellow countryman or countrywoman. Me defending any supremacist is an idea excessing only in your mind full of suppositions about me.

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread enduzzer
I'm not saying Trump is a Nazi per se. He only falls in the same pit as the Weimar republic conservative parties did when they supported the rise of Hitler hoping to gain power over him and ditch him when he was done. It won't work.

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
Exactly, in fact. That same video could be banned in Europe even though doesn't have a drop of hate against anyone. The same video shows cases where pacific free speech got banned because some people had other interests. It's just plain an simple truth that could be banned in Europe for

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
>"The nazism of today is alive and it has the face of GOP, Trump" stopped reading at GOP and Trump being pro nazi. Unless you can prove that you're not repeating the same some people says without any base then you're just lying. Also, question. Do you even live in America?

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread enduzzer
Then you shouldn't act against yout best interests defending extremists' right to air time on any platform they choose to infiltrate. It's illogical.

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
So now you imply I'm a white supremacist? I'll let you know that what you're doing it's no different from someone thinking "if it's dumb must be black" You'll agree with me that, that kind of prejudice is bad, right? Then why you don't hesitate to call me "white supremacists" even though

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread cjpaperbond
I agree, but being a KKK is kinda worse...

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread enduzzer
Niemöller was talking about the Nazis. The nazism of today is alive and it has the face of GOP, Trump and white suprecist groups fearmongering amidst us.

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
I wouldn't mind if you elaborate on why it's "out of place" as you say.

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread enduzzer
I know that Niemöller quote through and through. Your quote is put place and misdirected.

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
>"Because US Citizens have a taboo towards communism." Exactly right. Because US Citizens have a taboo towards communism. And what would happen if Bernie Sanders where to be called "former communist"? That would make him look bad in the US. A lot of people wouldn't vote for him. Bernie

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread enduzzer
Isn't it obvious? Being a socialist and being a white suprematist dung basket are hardly comparable in equality of admiration.

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread cjpaperbond
There's no way to even know if you are a US Citizen. No one is implying you promote Trump... I agree about not banning certain videos when in Europe they think that's hateful speech, when the general global consensus it might not be... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vVohGWhMWs

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
Now you're implying I'm a Trump supporter even though I haven't mention a word of him. Why no one call Bernie "former communist" while every-time David Duke is bring to discussion he's called "former Ku Klux Klan member"? either answer that or stop making me lose my time in worthless

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread cjpaperbond
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/les-leopold/if-bernie-wins-california_b_10051886.html

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
>"These warmongers have exactly the same freedoms as they had before" >"They can put up a platform[...]" They can put a platform and what? Wait until they see how even that got banned because of some filter? Can't you see the danger of this new EU law? Can't you see how this new EU rule

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread cjpaperbond
I said "they seemed"

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread enduzzer
Bernie is a snowball in hell. He has no chance to be lected. Why are wasting bullets on him? Is it because trumpists must have an opponent, imagined or real?

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread cjpaperbond
Because Americans have a taboo towards communism. I never implied you said Communism was bad. That was added up by me. "While hate speech is everything counter to the current political establishment believes." This doesn't answer my question, you decided to issue something else by saying

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread enduzzer
It used to be good manners in another time... Now you are a beacon of hope for the millions if you know how to throw cheap expletives and libel at your adversaries.

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
>"Tell me the difference between Political Correctness and Hate Speech" In practice political correctness is anything the current political establishment believes or want you to believe. While hate speech is everything counter to the current political establishment believes. >"Being a

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
Yeah, but I didn't say they will, just an hypothetical scenario

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread cjpaperbond
Yeah, I agree... this is making Facebook be more unstable than it already is...

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread cjpaperbond
They won't ban Free Software any time soon. They even seem to agree that it's the safest thing to have running in any computer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwRYyWn7BEo

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread cjpaperbond
Tell me the difference between Political Correctness and Hate Speech... Being a communist is not a bad thing, it's just a Political Ideology. It's not as if Bernie was Mao, or Stalin...

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread enduzzer
These war mongers have exactly the same freedoms as they had before. They can put up a platform of their own for their rants, misogynism and xenophobia induced hatred. As long as they don't cross the subtle threshold of targeting a specific minority and calling for violence towards them,

Re: [Trisquel-users] New Lenovo T61 Ath9k not working

2016-06-02 Thread cjpaperbond
I already installed the Middleton BIOS, and yet it doesn't connect through Wifi, I have to use the Modem cable to connect to the Internet...

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
Yeah, that's why I thought of that hypothetical scenario. Linux nor GNU necessarily imply communism. Both could live in either a communist or a capitalist system. I didn't imply that free software is communism. But rather that some people could believe that, and ban free software too with a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Which is your favorite search engine and why?

2016-06-02 Thread cjpaperbond
Tor suggests: https://search.disconnect.me I've read their privacy policy which stills seems not secure, because it stores data: Nothing in this policy contradicts the following statements: We don’t collect any of your personal info, including your IP address, other than information

Re: [Trisquel-users] New Lenovo T61 Ath9k not working

2016-06-02 Thread cjpaperbond
Yeah, I installed it. I have a doubt about the SATA II, it mentions that it doesn't transmit data 1.5 mb/s or something like that, but with the custom BIOS is 3 mb/s. Does it mean my Hard Disk will be faster?

Re: [Trisquel-users] GNU Package Blurbs

2016-06-02 Thread cjpaperbond
Quite many packages. I'm happy to see this is growing...

[Trisquel-users] Sent an Email to GNU.org about these 2 new Libre OS

2016-06-02 Thread cjpaperbond
What do you think about these OS? Why haven't they still been approved?

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread enduzzer
>Also, I am not a "communist", as you seem to be implying. Is it some scare label you apy to people who disagree with you? It makes no sense.< A ballmerism is appropriate here: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/07/31/ms_ballmer_linux_is_communism/

[Trisquel-users] GNU Package Blurbs

2016-06-02 Thread albertoefg
Hi =) I wanted to share with you this nice page: https://www.gnu.org/manual/blurbs.html A small description for all GNU packages

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread enduzzer
RMS has also said that he doesn't align with what he calls "right-wing libertarian anarchists". https://trisquel.info/en/forum/stallman-talk#comment-95157

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread nuevodesorden
Fuck David Duke, fuck the Klan, Fuck sanders and his socialdemocrat crap, fuck hillary and trump. Slava Stalin.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

2016-06-02 Thread onpon4
Yeah, that's because it's SaaSS. The only solution to this is for the translation software to be running on your own computer and libre. You can't solve SaaSS by creating an alternative SaaSS solution.

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread mnaus
If anybody is interested, Richard Stallman already commented on this: https://www.stallman.org/archives/2016-mar-jun.html "1 June 2016 (Censorship of "hate speech") Several "US" companies have signed a pledge to censor "hate speech", which is a crime in many European countries. This

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
Please do your best when trying to understand other people's views and post. Don't make me lose my time by making me repeat my self. That's all I ask when someone reply to my posts. And when people just miss-read (some times on purpose) to make it seem like I said something different that

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
SOPA and PIPA proposals don't belong here? Then how come people could talk all day long about that here? The reason why I condemn this EU decision is EXACTLY the same why the Trisquel community condemned SOPA and PIPA.

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread dguthrie
> This is why people like you makes me sick How can a harmless person on the internet make you sick? You have a big shock in store for you in life. People often say things you object to. How you react is important for how you behave towards others, and how they behave towards you in turn.

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
Read my post again, I said that I wouldn't mind this so much if it wasn't that isn't facebook, youtube and twitter who decided this on their own, but the EU, that's like if you're in some event and not the event organizer but the police decided to put you in jail not because the organizer

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread greatgnu
> I'm happy to note that I recently saw a headline asking if the Windows 10 update reminders qualify as spyware. More like adware - it is an add nagging the useds to upgrade to Nsaowns 10.

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread greatgnu
This thread belongs to the troll hole. It has nothing to do with software. Take it there.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread onpon4
Oh, OK. Well, I would say that proprietary systems supporting OpenGL is a good thing. At the very least, it then doesn't encourage developing programs that depend on some proprietary standard, like DirectX.

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread dguthrie
I am no hypocrite. This is not about free speech. It is about moderation within a set of clearly-defined boundaries, on certain sites. It is similar to how you can't just go into some event and make a speech about whatever you want. They might choose not to host you, and that would not be an

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
None of that has any relevance, I point at that video as an example of this law being unjust. If you see the video you won't see hate, you won't see anything but facts. Facts that could be silenced with this new rule in the EU. And I don't need to point out why this belongs here more than

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
None of that has any relevance, I point at that video as an example of this law being unjust. If you see the video you won't see hate, you won't see anything but facts. Facts that could be silenced with this new rule in the EU. And I don't need to point out why this belongs here more than

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread dguthrie
He's making no secret of his views. I know he is a batshit neocon, white supremacist, antisemite, and Ku Klux Klan member. The media is biased but seriously, if anything it is biased against progressive causes. You are deluded, this really belongs in the Troll Hole, if anywhere.

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread dguthrie
He's making no secret of his views. I know he is a batshit neocon, white supremacist, antisemite, and Ku Klux Klan member. The media is biased but seriously, if anything it is biased against progressive causes. You are deluded, this really belongs in the Troll Hole, if anywhere.

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
Wikipedia and the media can be incredibly bias. For example Bernie sanders is a former communist, but no one call him that all the time as they do with David Duke. Also, funny how now that saying of "no matter who says it if it's true it's true" matter now. Because I can see how you didn't

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread dguthrie
A video by David Duke? The same David Duke described by Wikipedia as "an American white nationalist, antisemitic conspiracy theorist, Holocaust denier, politician, and former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan." What a load of bs. The guy is not speaking the truth, just a load of antisemitic

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
>"What they allow on their websites is their own business" I wouldn't be so mad about this if it was by their own decision, but it's because the EU has ruled them to do it. Also, you're an hypocrite because if the decision was to ban all "communist speech" and they decided to tag free

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
You don't understand the implications of this. They will put videos like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDtT_GkqrE0 under the ""hate speech"" tag even though what he says in the video it's not hate, is truth. This is nothing but a attempt to control public opinion.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread dguthrie
I'm saying although Google demands manufacturers to support OpenGL, which is free, the end result does not respect people's freedom. Sorry for not making this clear enough.

Re: [Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread dguthrie
I want to point out that moderation of comments is not an attack on freedom of speech. What they allow on their websites is their own business. You can voice your opinions through other means, no matter how vile and sickening they might be. However, just remember: just because you have the

[Trisquel-users] EU: All your internet are belong to us

2016-06-02 Thread danigaritarojas
"New Online Hate-Speech Rules Threaten Free Speech (Op-Ed)" "Web firms pledge to tackle online free speech" "Microsoft, YouTube, Twitter and Facebook have pledged to remove free speech within 24 hours, in support of a code of conduct drafted by the EU." And why? Because it hurst terrorist

Re: [Trisquel-users] Laptop too hot - CPU (almost) always at 100%

2016-06-02 Thread gnuser
Hey, I am having the same issue again. I will have to try your method when the problem is occurring again (right now all is working well), since I think it will not be much good posting that output when the system is normal, right? Also, if I may ask, what marks the beginning and ending of

Re: [Trisquel-users] Laptop too hot - CPU (almost) always at 100%

2016-06-02 Thread gnuser
Hey guys. I have been getting similar behavior of my machine again (not as frequently but it happens), so I am "re opening" the issue. I noticed it happens when the laptop is left unused for a long period of time, when I use it again it has the kworker requesting CPU power again. I will

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread sethcchrn6
GNU/Linux has the same problem that the Windows Phone platform has. No one's developing for it because it has such low market share, and it has such low market share because no one develops for it.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread onpon4
> demands manufacturers to implement OpenGL for fancy effects, but it is still bad for your freedom How is demanding that hardware manufacturers support an open standard bad for your freedom? Their support of OpenGL might require a proprietary driver or proprietary firmware, but that's a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread dguthrie
The same can be true for Android, which demands manufacturers to implement OpenGL for fancy effects, but it is still bad for your freedom, especially on Quallcomm platforms. It does not matter that you are supporting these 'open' technologies if it harms your freedom. In a way, I might point

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread tegskywalker
I also want to inject something else here. We all know that non-free software is bad, but when you play a game (non-free or not) on a GNU/Linux platform, you are supporting OpenGL and Vulkan, which are both open. If you support Windows, you are supporting the proprietary DirectX. If you are

Re: [Trisquel-users] How to translate sentences

2016-06-02 Thread alejandrohp
Tor provides anonymity, but companies still receive data. :(

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread dguthrie
Windows 7 is basically the LTS release.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread jason
They come from vendors. For example: https://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2015/12/10/the-linux-vendor-firmware-service-welcomes-dell/ But yes, your point is valid regardless of who it comes from. Time for free firmware! https://jxself.org/free-firmware.shtml

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread dguthrie
There is a problem arising with fwupd, in that the firmware is user-submitted. Couldn't someone add a malicious firmware file?

Re: [Trisquel-users] I need a G++ 4.9. Where to find it?

2016-06-02 Thread dguthrie
The people in that thread are using Ubuntu 14.04 and can make it work, which Trisquel is based on. Your problem is not GCC, it is something else. Try redownloading the source code and seeing what happens. Reinstall all the dependencies, and check you didn't fail to install one by mistake. I

Re: [Trisquel-users] I need a G++ 4.9. Where to find it?

2016-06-02 Thread stas . mihaylenko
This test: https://github.com/google/certificate-transparency/issues/1233

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread enduzzer
It enables me to run free software, an excuse, my excuse. The far more important point is, in my view, should I have to install Win first to be able to install a BIOS update. They should at least provide a way to update the BIOS without Windows. I think there is a way but I failed to do it

Re: [Trisquel-users] Will Trisquel 8 embrace Snap packaging for custom, Trisquel specific, applications?

2016-06-02 Thread jadedml
It's not. You can completely bypass the Ubuntu App Centre to install Snap packages.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Will Trisquel 8 embrace Snap packaging for custom, Trisquel specific, applications?

2016-06-02 Thread jadedml
I have to wonder, what programs would be Trisquel-specific? Being binary-compatible with Ubuntu and without custom software being written for it, there isn't really any Trisquel-specific software, save a few small exceptions that wouldn't be beneficial to put in Snap packages.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread greatgnu
And here an issue arises: should I refuse to install proprietary software on my computer (the BIOS is software)? :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread greatgnu
tg3: Cinnamon (buguntu based)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread enduzzer
"Provides improved security of UEFI code and variables. HP strongly recommends transitioning promptly to this updated BIOS version which supersedes all previous releases." ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq//sp76001-76500/sp76003.html I have always updated the BIOS when it's available -- so far

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread dguthrie
You are missing my point. Of course these "hardcore gamers" are better using GNU+Linux. It's just that they don't represent most people. They care about performance over free software. We should focus on people who would be happy now on GNU+Linux, such as children, people at school, people

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread dguthrie
Why did you need to update the BIOS? Was it crap or something?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Windows 7 and 8 users are starting to disable Windows Update entirely. Yikes.

2016-06-02 Thread enduzzer
I had to install a copy of Win 10 to be able to update my laptop's BIOS. I tried other means but failed. Maybe it was due to the BIOS password, don't know, but the installer/updater/flasher reminded me of the password before proceeding. I had an old HDD that I swapped in for the update and