Re: [Trisquel-users] Writing my ‘common distros’ for us in 2018

2018-01-07 Thread hd-scania
You look confused that, I actually stand for the Cambridge and Oxford  
dictionaries to be the tools used by my English teachers. In fact that you  
are unclear to what I'm saying is due to my few opportunities to write online  
or speak with the English-spoken tourists before high school. When I was at  
college the teachers dntv time to tutor in very many details.


[Trisquel-users] Welcome Hyperbola, another LTS libre system

2018-01-07 Thread hd-scania

 
https://wiki.parabola.nu/User:Hd_scania#systemd_removal_before_transfer_to_OpenRC_.28full_systemd_install.29
I have just cloned my Parabola system into another partition, for downgrading  
to Hyperbola, with kernel panic as final and only issue up to now, that  
Hyperbola is LTS like Trisquel unlike Parabola, but pacman as package manager  
like Parabola unlike Trisquel.
After this clone before your downgrade, check and update the UUID in  
/etc/fstab of that partition you need to downgrade to Hyperbola according to  
gparted, after refreshing this UUID using tune2fs, and dnt touch one you need  
to remain it as Parabola.


Re: [Trisquel-users] How to spread computing freedom?

2018-01-07 Thread greatgnu
>She sometimes complain that I do not want to "help" her with "installing the  
Uber app" or "having WhatsApp (that she installed herself) put data on the SD  
card".



I find it very annoying when they act like this, as if you were doing them a  
wrong by not wanting to install proprietary malware on their devices. Most  
people just don't want to understand and tend to maintain their point no  
matter what. I find their point as dumb as annoying: 'but it's muh device, it  
is muh bizness what I install and use'. No matter how many times you explain  
that 'installing proprietary software goes against your morals and  
integrity'.


(Correct, what **you** install and use. So, either install it on ur own or  
quit annoying me)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Hot news - Major flaw in Intel CPUs

2018-01-07 Thread greatgnu
If I understand it correctly there are three vulnerabilities, two spectre and  
one meltdown bugs. Intel processors are affected by all of them and on all  
operating systems. AMD is affected by one spectre vulerability only on  
GNU/Linux and only if you use non-default kernel settings. Correct me if I am  
wrong. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] RMS, the free software community and cognitive dissonance

2018-01-07 Thread onpon4

> Nobody loads a file into a game in the way they commonly load files into
> spreadsheets, word processors, and other similar programs for which work is
> typically done.

Games do load files, but I suppose you mean that you never transfer files for  
use with non-identical software, and therefore compatibility of the files  
they read and/or write with other similar programs is not an issue. I'd just  
like to point out that all of these kinds of programs are typically the same  
way:


- Calculator applications
- Clock/alarm applications
- File managers
- Terminal emulators
- Device firmware
- Device drivers

I don't think compatibility, in any sense, is a particularly helpful  
criterion to look at when determining how good or bad a program being  
proprietary is.


Re: [Trisquel-users] GPS navigator with free software

2018-01-07 Thread onpon4
If you have a device that can run Replicant with GPS, that would do the  
trick; you could use OsmAnd~, ZANavi, or Navit (all found in the F-Droid  
repo). But I don't think any Replicant-supporting phones support GPS with  
libre software, so that's partly just theoretical.


A device with GNU/Linux like the Pyra should theoretically be fine, too, if  
you add GPS to it somehow. In that case I suppose you would use Navit.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Re : RMS, the free software community and cognitive dissonance

2018-01-07 Thread J.B. Nicholson

lc...@dcc.ufmg.br wrote:
I have not understood a specific part of your post: what you meant by 
"games don't typically require the degree of compatibility other software 
requires".  That is why I quoted that small excerpt and asked "What do you 
mean?"... and, despite your answer, I still do not understand.


I thought that was clear in the original context. I'll explain again: 
Nobody loads a file into a game in the way they commonly load files into 
spreadsheets, word processors, and other similar programs for which work is 
typically done.


There are also other issues which I think I've explained clearly that are 
more likely to affect older software.


[Trisquel-users] Re : trouble with

2018-01-07 Thread lcerf
I thought the developers would read  
https://trisquel.info/forum/testing-trisquel-8-upgrade-process


Am I wrong? I found, among other things, "something outstanding".  I wrote  
about it in  
https://trisquel.info/forum/testing-trisquel-8-upgrade-process#comment-125668  
:


Now the weirdest thing, which may be a freedom issue: my internal Wifi card  
works! I do not need the USB adapter with the AR9271 chipset! As far as I  
know there is no free firmware for the chipset in my internal card:

$ lspci | grep Network
01:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188EE  
Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)


[Trisquel-users] Re : trouble with

2018-01-07 Thread lcerf
See  
https://trisquel.info/forum/testing-trisquel-8-upgrade-process#comment-125953  
for how to save the logs.


[Trisquel-users] Re : trouble with

2018-01-07 Thread lcerf
I did download  
http://jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso/iso/trisquel_8.0_amd64.iso


Instead of 'sudo lightdm', you should have executed something like:
$ sudo systemctl start lightdm.service
Not that I expect that command to yield a different outcome though...


Re: [Trisquel-users] trouble with

2018-01-07 Thread ablocorrea
If you want to test the upgrade process, try to remove  
plymouth-theme-trisquel-logo first. Because last time I tried it, it had been  
fixed in the beta image but not yet recompiled for the repos, so it will  
probably still break your upgrade process.


I believe the insllation log should be in /var/log/installer/debug. If you  
find something outstanding, create a new issue or send it to the devel  
mailing list.


[Trisquel-users] Re : RMS, the free software community and cognitive dissonance

2018-01-07 Thread lcerf
I have not understood a specific part of your post: what you meant by "games  
don't typically require the degree of compatibility other software requires".  
 That is why I quoted that small excerpt and asked "What do you mean?"...  
and, despite your answer, I still do not understand.


If a program was written in an assembly language, then that is the source  
code.  If processed (for instance if comments were removed), it is not the  
source code anymore.  The free software definition applies.  Unchanged.  In  
particular, if the source code was lost, then the program is not free  
software.  That it runs on an emulator makes no difference when it comes to  
declaring it free or proprietary.  "Preserving our computing heritage" is a  
separate issue (although having a freely shareable source code certainly  
helps).  And all those difficulties look common to any very old program, not  
only games but also old spreadsheets and word processors that you put in  
another category, the extended excerpt being:


This typically includes spreadsheets, word processors, and web browsing, but  
not typically video games. It's not that running nonfree games is acceptable,  
it's that games don't typically require the degree of compatibility other  
software requires.


I do not want to offend you.  I only want to understand you.


Re: [Trisquel-users] trouble with

2018-01-07 Thread mason
I tried 'apt-cache search ath9k' and got no results, but given the other  
issues I was having I doubt my experience is representative of a working  
install.


I can't afford to go too many more hours without a working system, so I've  
installed Trisquel 7 and will use this as an opportunity to test the upgrade  
process to Trisquel 8, since I don't have enough RAM to test in a virtual  
machine. Next weekend I'll give the new ISO another shot. How would I go  
about saving logs of future attempts?


Re: [Trisquel-users] trouble with

2018-01-07 Thread ablocorrea
The name of the package with the ath9k firmware (issue 23470) is  
open-ath9k-htc-firmware. It was added to the meta-packages and it was present  
when I lived-tested the ISO image, that's why I closed it. If you don't  
happen to have it something strange might be going on.


Ruben was asking a couple of weeks ago about feedback from both the new beta  
images and the upgrade process. If you have the logs of your tries, it will  
probably be much appreciated.


Re: [Trisquel-users] GPS navigator with free software

2018-01-07 Thread Alexander Stephen Thomas Ross
there is a diy option
in the #zipit irc channel ask hinv about buying one.
http://mozzwald.com/zipitz2
got little pspmaps and navit working on it. hardware struggles with
non-local route planning. pspmaps uses google for getting a route plan,
so with wifi (non-free firmware or use free usb one.) you can get a
route plan more easily.
you need a serial or usb gps. i have goodie packs for adaptors and bits
i can sell for at cost.

other wise your options

maybe Chip handheld can be turning into a free gps (there software stack
as unnecessary non-free bits which have free replacements.).

wait for eoma-68 handheld little device, going to be ages for that, but
i look forward to the day. :)

wait for a http://pyra-handheld.com/ . loads of little bits of non-free
firmware but at least the cpu is free unlike intel.

on GPD pocket mini laptop, nonfree wifi,bt,cpu but available for £280~ i
forget the flash sale price
https://www.gearbest.com/tablet-pcs/pp_613003.html?wid=21
install ubuntu and config navit + bluetooth gps which is a bit fiddly
but works or use usb one.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Stuck at login screen after messing with partitions

2018-01-07 Thread calmstorm
A mod can, but yeah... been there done that. you can however reinstall  
thankfully gnu/linux makes that easy. 


Re: [Trisquel-users] trouble with

2018-01-07 Thread mason
Yes, sometimes Startup Disk Creator doesn't work well and dd works better.  
That was the case with the previous Flidas ISO. With this ISO however I run  
into the same problem with either method.


Re: [Trisquel-users] trouble with

2018-01-07 Thread calmstorm

This is the best way to burn an iso I believe. :)


Re: [Trisquel-users] Is it ethical to use github?

2018-01-07 Thread calmstorm

I would recommend notabug.org

Or your own hosted git. Those are really really, the best options possible.


[Trisquel-users] Software freedom concerns which mainly arise from older programs

2018-01-07 Thread J.B. Nicholson

I wrote considerably more but a non-representative excerpt quoted read:
It's not that running nonfree games is acceptable, it's that games don't 
typically require the degree of compatibility other software requires.


to which lc...@dcc.ufmg.br replied:

What do you mean?  Free software is not about compatibility.  The FSF or
RMS would certainly argue that the software part (not the graphics, the
sounds, the story, etc.) of a video game must be free software to be 
ethical.  A specific point is that malware can be (and often is, e.g.,

DRM) implemented in video games.


Contrary to your response, I did explain that I understand the free 
software takes an ethical stance and said as much in text you didn't reproduce.


Sometimes there is no source code to license, share, or edit. Sometimes the 
source is lost or the source code is the distributed machine code. This 
means one faces a different consideration than one faces for modern 
programs where source code is available and different than what's 
distributed. Older games come up with difficulties like this.


Regarding game art: It's not always clear how to replace art not licensed 
to share even verbatim. In some older games the art in the game is not 
separate from the rest of the game code.


There are also some practical problems regarding what we need to get out of 
emulating old systems to run older software. For now, sharing copies of 
machine code dumped from old storage media and writing emulators to read 
and run that code seems to suffice. Unfortunately we do this without the 
copyright holder's permission. Modern copyright law is useful when we write 
code from scratch and license it to others under a free license, or write 
new free software based on other free software. But modern copyright law 
doesn't grant us what we need to preserve our computing heritage in the 
most useful way.


[Trisquel-users] Is it ethical to use github?

2018-01-07 Thread rolandcoeurjoly

The FSF rates with F github and an A Savannah.
On the other hand, there are a lot of projects that I want to contribute to  
that are hosted in github...

Damned network effect...


Re: [Trisquel-users] trouble with

2018-01-07 Thread mason
I tried again with Startup Disk Creator and had the same problem. I just get  
a black screen with a cursors. Sometimes I get an iwl3945 missing firmware  
message, but I don't think that's the issue because it always happens in  
Trisquel until I blacklist the non-free WiFi device.


I tried running startx from a terminal and got 'xinit: unable to connect to X  
server: Connection refused'. Then I tried 'sudo lightdm' and just got the  
black screen + cursor.


This time I also tried running live with 'Try Trisquel Without Installing'  
and even then had the same problem: just a black screen and cursor.


Could it be a libreboot issue? Is this the link you downloaded the ISO from?  
http://jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso/iso/


Re: [Trisquel-users] GPS navigator with free software

2018-01-07 Thread jbahn

Yeah, I am afraid so...


Re: [Trisquel-users] GPS navigator with free software

2018-01-07 Thread jason

I don't believe the answers have changed.


[Trisquel-users] GPS navigator with free software

2018-01-07 Thread jbahn

Happy Gnu Year, everybody.

I am looking for a GPS navigator (receiver and display) and would naturally  
prefer one running on (as) free (as possible) software. I found a few earlier  
threats on this topic:


https://trisquel.info/en/forum/free-software-friendly-gps

https://trisquel.info/en/forum/libre-gps-hardware

The - lack of - answers to those OPs are kind of disheartening but I shall  
try again. I can't seem to find such by search, but does anyone here know of  
- even at rumour level - such a device?


[Trisquel-users] Re : trouble with

2018-01-07 Thread lcerf
Those steps look correct.  As I wrote in  
https://trisquel.info/forum/testing-trisquel-8-upgrade-process#comment-125646  
:


I "burned" [the amd64 ISO of December 24th] on a USB pendrive (the FSF member  
card actually) using Trisquel 7's graphical "USB Creator" (or whatever it is  
called). Although it looks stuck at some point (at 42% and at 99%, when  
creating the permanent file), it all ended well.


Re: [Trisquel-users] trouble with

2018-01-07 Thread mason

Do you have any idea what I might have done wrong?

I burned the 64-bit ISO using
$ sudo dd if=/path/to/image.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=8M;sync
and attempted to install on a librebooted X60. When that didn't work I  
started over with a fresh download of the ISO.


The exact same steps work fine with the 6/19 ISO.


[Trisquel-users] Re : trouble with

2018-01-07 Thread lcerf

Has anyone successfully installed Trisquel 8 from the 12/24 ISO?

I have.  And both issues you listed are fixed.  See  
https://trisquel.info/forum/testing-trisquel-8-upgrade-process#comment-125668  
and below about that experience (trying to have a usable GNOME Shell).  Above  
for my failed attempts to upgrade from Trisquel 7.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Mirrors of the Linux-libre APT repo

2018-01-07 Thread blade . vp2020

Probably didn't show up in the  update manager only???
and we must type apt-get Upgrade???

Ideas and suggestions and help ar Welcome


Re: [Trisquel-users] Mirrors of the Linux-libre APT repo

2018-01-07 Thread jason

It should be visible to the package manager. If you try:

sudo apt update
sudo apt full-upgrade

Do you get it?


Re: [Trisquel-users] Mirrors of the Linux-libre APT repo

2018-01-07 Thread jason

"we use 4.9 lts
and we use your APT repo
But we dont Received updates for (meltdown and Speculative vulnerabilitys)"

4.9.75 has the KPTI stuff for meltdown: https://lwn.net/Articles/743248/
And 4.9.75 is available in my APT repo since January 5.


Re: [Trisquel-users] trouble with

2018-01-07 Thread mason
The title of this thread was supposed to be 'trouble with new Flidas ISOs  
from 12/14)


[Trisquel-users] trouble with

2018-01-07 Thread mason

I saw that there are new ISOs up here

http://jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso/iso/

and decided to test the 64-bit one.

I was not able to get a working display manager or desktop environment from  
the text installer or graphical installer. The text installer couldn't  
complete the step where I select a DE. The graphical installer appeared to  
work, but upon rebooting I got a black screen with no display manager. I  
opened a terminal with Ctrl+Alt+F1 and was able to determine that MATE was  
installed.


I have submitted a bug report and reinstalled Trisquel 8 from the previous  
ISO from 6/19. However, if I can I would like to test the new ISO to verify  
that these issues


https://trisquel.info/en/issues/23511
https://trisquel.info/en/issues/23470

are indeed fixed (23470 did not appear to be, as once I had a terminal open I  
could not find the firmware package via 'apt-cache search') and see if any  
other issues have been resolved.


Has anyone successfully installed Trisquel 8 from the 12/24 ISO? If so, what  
did you have to do to get it working.


[Trisquel-users] Re : How to spread computing freedom?

2018-01-07 Thread lcerf
They complain about viruses, about the computer being slow, about annoying  
pop-ups, unwanted programs and sometimes the inability to change the home  
page of their browser due to some malware.


First of all, I do not provide "assistance" with proprietary software.  Ever.  
 I offered my wife a cell phone so that I could install LineageOS + F-Droid +  
... without the Google Apps.  In this way, she is less victim of proprietary  
software that she would be if she would have bought the phone herself (I do  
not own a tracking device but she would not do the same).  She sometimes  
complain that I do not want to "help" her with "installing the Uber app" or  
"having WhatsApp (that she installed herself) put data on the SD card".  That  
would not be "helping" her, from my point of view.  I only help with free  
software.  Including installing free software in substitution of  
malfunctioning proprietary software.


At the same time I see that since using free software all those problems have  
been replaced other, more high quality issues.


What "high quality issues"?  If you are specific (in a new thread for  
clarity), somebody here may help you.


How can I introduce free software to my family and friends?

A transitive phase is important to a successful migration.  You can install,  
on the present operating system, one free software program a week, for  
instance.  A program that will be available as well on GNU/Linux: Firefox,  
Thunderbird, VLC, LibreOffice, Pidgin, GIMP, Inkscape, Audacity ... are big  
ones.  Part of them probably cover 90% of the needs of a random home user.   
But learning about the remaining 10%, more specific programs have to be  
sought.  And you should help the user with difficulties she faces.  Office  
file compatibility may be a big one here...  Once installed all relevant free  
software available on Windows, the next step is to install GNU/Linux.  With  
double-boot (less frightening).  But GNU/Linux should be the default.  And  
ithe transition is easier if the desktop interface is similar to the previous  
one.  Trisquel's default desktop environment is great for that.


But it is essential to introduce as well the free software *philosophy*.  A  
user who understands the injustice of proprietary software will not surrender  
to it whenever more convenient.


For the closer ones, I am thinking of buying libreboot with Trisquel  
computers.


That is a good one... if you first make sure that they will actually use that  
computer.  In particular that they have nothing against refurbished  
computers.  I also frequently help my family with buying hardware.  With no  
OS and Intel graphics (for computers).  Supported by LineageOS (they would  
not use an older phone supported by Replicant) for cell phones.  I have spare  
Wifi adapter with the AR9271 chipset (supported by ath9k_htc, hence by  
Linux-libre and Trisquel) to give them.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Mirrors of the Linux-libre APT repo

2018-01-07 Thread blade . vp2020

hi jxself
we nede your help
in uruk gnu/linux 2.0
we use 4.9 lts
and we use your APT repo

But we dont  Received  updates for   (meltdown and Speculative  
vulnerabilitys)

Ideas and suggestions and help ar Welcome
have fun and be free
ali miracle


Re: [Trisquel-users] Mirrors of the Linux-libre APT repo

2018-01-07 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
All set!

Thank you very much for your work, and not only for you jxself, but also
for those who set the mirrors.

Please give them my gratitude. ;)

2018-01-07T19:12:38+0100 ja...@bluehome.net wrote:
> Several mirrors of my APT repository exist [0], donated by various people.
>
> I've updated the website [1] to provide instructions on how to use
> these when setting up the repository. Your sources.list file would
> instead contain the line:
>
> deb mirror://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/freesh/mirrors.txt
> freesh main
>
> (In case of line wrapping problems this deb mirror:// entry is
> supposed to all be on one line.)
>
> So as to spread out the load, please consider updating your package
> manager to use this new configuration if possible. Manual apt mirror
> selection is still possible of course.
>
> If you are interested in running a public mirror please let me know so
> that it can be added to mirrors.txt for use by others.
>
> [0] http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/freesh/mirrors.txt
> [1] https://jxself.org/linux-libre/
>

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- https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno
- Palestrante e consultor sobre /software/ livre (não confundir com
  gratis).
- "WhatsApp"? Ele não é livre. Por favor, veja formas de se comunicar
  instantaneamente comigo no endereço abaixo.
- Contato: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno#vCard
- Arquivos comuns aceitos (apenas sem DRM): Corel Draw, Microsoft
  Office, MP3, MP4, WMA, WMV.
- Arquivos comuns aceitos e enviados: CSV, GNU Dia, GNU Emacs Org, GNU
  GIMP, Inkscape SVG, JPG, LibreOffice (padrão ODF), OGG, OPUS, PDF
  (apenas sem DRM), PNG, TXT, WEBM.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Next Trisquel update (PGADMIN4)

2018-01-07 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Hi, since I don't know if you are subscribed to the trisquel-users
mailing list or if you're paying attention to the forums, I also sent
this message directly to you.

If I recall correctly, the forums are for end-users, and there is no
guarantee that the developers will always be around in the forums. If I
recall correctly, the developers use both #trisquel-dev IRC channel,
chat.freenode.net, the trisquel-devel mailing list ([1]), the issue
tracker in the right menu of this website (where it says "Issues") and
also the Git repository at [2].

Morever, I must note that from the documentation about the Trisquel
project, one can see that it doesn't provide packages on its own except
for rebranding, software freedom issues and other exceptions. This is
not to say it can't be done, it just means that except from the cases
dealt with by Trisquel, the request should be made to our upstream. With
this said, I have searched the upstream's list of packages and found out
that pgadmin4 won't be available in Trisquel 8 unless:

a) we contact someone from Trisquel to do it. Highly problematic since
   we would have to maintain it ourselves;

b) someone from upstream is contacted to do it, in such case Trisquel
   will probably pick the changes. However, there is no guarantee that
   the package will be free/libre software (I don't know anything about
   it except for what it does);

c) contribute to get the package in the official upstream repositories,
   with same issues as (a) but Trisquel will probably also pick the
   changes.


I hope this helps, happy GNU year! ;)

[1] https://listas.trisquel.info/mailman/listinfo/trisquel-devel .

[2] https://devel.trisquel.info/trisquel/package-helpers .

2017-11-20T21:49:38+0100 aggeliszo...@prtonmail.com wrote:
> Please in the next update put the pgadmin4
> thank you
>

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  gratis).
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  instantaneamente comigo no endereço abaixo.
- Contato: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno#vCard
- Arquivos comuns aceitos (apenas sem DRM): Corel Draw, Microsoft
  Office, MP3, MP4, WMA, WMV.
- Arquivos comuns aceitos e enviados: CSV, GNU Dia, GNU Emacs Org, GNU
  GIMP, Inkscape SVG, JPG, LibreOffice (padrão ODF), OGG, OPUS, PDF
  (apenas sem DRM), PNG, TXT, WEBM.


[Trisquel-users] Mirrors of the Linux-libre APT repo

2018-01-07 Thread jason

Several mirrors of my APT repository exist [0], donated by various people.

I've updated the website [1] to provide instructions on how to use these when  
setting up the repository. Your sources.list file would instead contain the  
line:


deb mirror://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/freesh/mirrors.txt freesh  
main


(In case of line wrapping problems this deb mirror:// entry is supposed to  
all be on one line.)


So as to spread out the load, please consider updating your package manager  
to use this new configuration if possible. Manual apt mirror selection is  
still possible of course.


If you are interested in running a public mirror please let me know so that  
it can be added to mirrors.txt for use by others.


[0] http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/freesh/mirrors.txt
[1] https://jxself.org/linux-libre/


[Trisquel-users] Re : Web Browser

2018-01-07 Thread lcerf
Indeed.  And using the same source, here is the free software status of  
Chromium (the original question):
Chromium might or might not be free. During the last review, the copyright or  
license of some code was unclear. It also has a similiar problem to Iceweasel  
and Firefox in which it links to proprietary plugins. (Chromium should NOT be  
confused with Google Chrome, which shares a codebase with Chromium but is not  
free software.)


For details on the license issues, see the "Blocked on" list on the left of  
https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=28291


[Trisquel-users] Re : What to do with the software when you replace the harddisk?

2018-01-07 Thread lcerf
The "gear" menu of the "Disks" utility, in the "System Settings", allows you  
to easily "Create Disk Image...".  That said, I always do a clean install and  
then "clone" the system as I explained here:  
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/cloning-system-or-how-make-copy-installed-packages-one-computer-another


[Trisquel-users] Re : Stuck at login screen after messing with partitions

2018-01-07 Thread lcerf

It seems like it purged my home directory when I turned off the computer.

I do not think so.  You probably have /home on a separate partition and that  
partition is not mounted for some reason.  /home would then appear empty.


Do you want to recover some data there or are they all backed-up somewhere  
else?  You mentioned GNOME Disks.  Its "gear" menu contains "SMART Data &  
Self-Tests... (Ctrl+S)".  Use it if you do not want to recover any (more)  
data and want to discover whether the hardware is sane.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Testing The Trisquel 8 Upgrade Process

2018-01-07 Thread lcerf

'tee' is a good solution.  Also:

Precede the command with "LC_ALL=C" to have the command use the system locale  
(English); a tip for jules_verne too;
Use 'apt-get' and not 'apt' (like I did) because its colored output messes  
the log a little.



For example, that command generates good logs (here, in a file named "log"):
LC_ALL=C sudo apt-get upgrade | tee log

/var/log/apt/term.log.* contains APT's logs too.


[Trisquel-users] Re : How to start contribute

2018-01-07 Thread lcerf
+1.  Contact david (aka daroal), who is the most involved into Trisquel's  
website development: https://trisquel.info/users/david/contact


[Trisquel-users] Re : RMS, the free software community and cognitive dissonance

2018-01-07 Thread lcerf
It's not that running nonfree games is acceptable, it's that games don't  
typically require the degree of compatibility other software requires.


What do you mean?  Free software is not about compatibility.  The FSF or RMS  
would certainly argue that the software part (not the graphics, the sounds,  
the story, etc.) of a video game must be free software to be ethical.  A  
specific point is that malware can be (and often is, e.g., DRM) implemented  
in video games.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Writing my ‘common distros’ for us in 2018

2018-01-07 Thread onpon4
No, that's not true. British English and American English are the same  
language. The spelling differences have nothing to do whatsoever with other  
languages. They were caused by spelling standard differences a couple hundred  
years ago.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_spelling_differences


Re: [Trisquel-users] Writing my ‘common distros’ for us in 2018

2018-01-07 Thread onpon4
> When I was a teen I was mostly used to be tutored based on the Cambridge  
and Oxford dictionaries, both web interface and physical ones.


A dictionary cannot tutor you. Dictionaries are tools. Tutors are people who  
teach you. These are not interchangeable.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Hot news - Major flaw in Intel CPUs

2018-01-07 Thread lcerf
I believe the researchers only verified Intel/AMD and ARM architectures  
because they are far more widespread. POWER9 processors use speculative  
pipelines: https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/ibm/microarchitectures/power9 (see  
"Speculative" in the info box).  That is why I believe they suffer from  
Spectre, like all modern processors.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Hot news - Major flaw in Intel CPUs

2018-01-07 Thread lcerf
Spectre has nothing to do with 'Management Engines" and the like.  It deals  
with "speculative execution" (e.g., "branch prediction") that aims at faster  
executions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speculative_execution


The POWER architecture uses speculative pipelines too:  
https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/ibm/microarchitectures/power9 (see "Speculative"  
in the info box).  I believe researchers only verified Intel/AMD and ARM  
architectures because they are far more widespread.  POWER processors are  
probably at risk too.


[Trisquel-users] Re : Hot news - Major flaw in Intel CPUs

2018-01-07 Thread lcerf
They are.  By Spectre.  See RNK's post:  
https://trisquel.info/forum/hot-news-major-flaw-intel-cpus#comment-125812


Re: [Trisquel-users] Is Google the biggest, most successful proprietary software company ever?

2018-01-07 Thread jodiendo

CalmStorm, Heather,  Magic Banana, mason,
calher, SuperTramp83, and rcl.

But to be  in the hand of a master troller, All the licenses does have its  
plus and minuses depending on each,  what are the purpose is been used?  or  
been elaborated for!


 But for a master Troller to infuse his words in this subject, been  
respectful at all times.
I use SOME KIND OF GPL LICENSE INFLUENCE , for example:  AGPL LICENSE STIGMA,  
 AND MY FAVORITE ONE,  the GNU Affero GPL does not address the problem of  
Service as a Software.

 My repertoire is cover by F GPL SERVICE will you believe me or not?
What is that F GPL SERVICE?
just USE YOUR IMAGINATION FOR THE DEFINITION OF LETTER
"F"
one DAY, i WILL GIVE IT A DEFINITION AND WHAT TYPE OF SPECIFIC GPL SERVICES  
WILL COVER IT.


 


Re: [Trisquel-users] Writing my ‘common distros’ for us in 2018

2018-01-07 Thread enduzzer
...learning English is not easy. Not only is the entire way English grammar  
works mostly alien to Asian languages


I'm not sure about that. English is not easy mainly because of its historic  
ortography and vast vocabulary, a myriad of idioms which are hard to master  
even for native speakers.


The basic syntax is not much different from, say, Chinese. Word order is  
mainly the same subject, verb object; very little declension or conjugation.


There are any other languages that are harder to tackle at first but easier  
to master later, like Russian or German. These languages have had more  
coherence and less variety due to them being languages of nation states.


Re: [Trisquel-users] Freedom Fridays, development meetings, 2018 plans

2018-01-07 Thread ryanpcmcquen
I am so happy! Writing this from Trisquel 8 which is running exquisitely. I  
cannot wait for the final release. My ThinkPenguin wireless actually works on  
Trisquel 8 (unlike on Debian 9). Thank you Ruben!