Re: [Trisquel-users] Is PyCharm free software?

2018-01-17 Thread Mason Hock
You're right. I forgot to inlude my usual disclaimer for alternativeto.net that users should check the license themselves before installing and avoid having to enable JavaScript to filter by license by appending '?license=opensource' to the URL.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fwd: Re: trisquel 8

2018-01-17 Thread bob
And there was me thinking you'd just sent me a really sweet private email! lol :D Thank you for the link. I know in principle how to install MATE (through apt-get, after maybe installing a PPA!) but I usually avoid installing more than one desktop on a system because they often install

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-17 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
One thing that I find hilarious: Facebook may take and reuse all your multimedia that you publish there, but Facebook's terms of service says that you are only allowed to publish things that have you as the only author. Effectively, one cannot legally share in Facebook works under CC-any-variant,

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-17 Thread Mason Hock
> I use it just because I haven't found anything better (privacy-wise). I understand how you've come to that conclusion. I won't tell you to change your decision, but I will explain why I respond differently. The secondary reason is that I find it very unlikely that Chromium is the most

Re: [Trisquel-users] [Just for a laugh] first world problems (free software edition)

2018-01-17 Thread gnugaz77
Brilliant.

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-17 Thread studio
https://yro.slashdot.org/story/18/01/17/2141212/facebook-is-a-living-breathing-crime-scene-says-former-tech-insider

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-17 Thread studio
> You use Chromium desite not understanding every line of source code. You have argued, and I agree, that this requires trust. I use it just because I haven't found anything better (privacy-wise). FWIW I also use Google Apps... as I still can't find the perfect alternative to it. But I

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-17 Thread Mason Hock
> If you are asking "Why do you trust Google" - I don't. You use Chromium desite not understanding every line of source code. You have argued, and I agree, that this requires trust. > https://trisquel.info/en/forum/thoughts-about-new-type-network Great post. I'll probably stop following this

[Trisquel-users] Filesystem Issues

2018-01-17 Thread leestrobel
I seem to be having some problems with my root filesystem, and I'm wondering if someone could give me some advice? I have my root filesystem on a separate partition to my home filesystem on my laptop. Over the past few days, I seem to keep running into an issue where certain things I'm

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-17 Thread Mason Hock
> "I have learned about so many things and met all new kinds of > people on Facebook." Facebook uses its psychological profile of you to determine what information to display at what time in order to addict you. As a side effect, you may find much of the information interesting. However,

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-17 Thread studio
It seems to me you expect from people here to tell you how to talk to your family so that they listen to you and stop using Facebook. Ask yourself: Why do you want to modify the behavior of others? How is that different from what Facebook does? Are you able to love someone if he does stupid

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-17 Thread studio
> If you don't believe in trust, why make an exception for Google? If you are asking "Why do you trust Google" - I don't. > the closest thing I see is asking Magic Banana to investigate the Firefox source code, so I may have been mistaken. Yep, np. And I wasn't necessarily asking him to

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-17 Thread sophoclestechnologies
How does one go about responding to comments such as: "I have learned about so many things and met all new kinds of people on Facebook." "Through Facebook, I am able to share works that I have created quickly and to many people." "Most of the Web, including Facebook, exists because it is

[Trisquel-users] [Just for a laugh] first world problems (free software edition)

2018-01-17 Thread arielgnu
One of my friends send me the following image and I thought it was very funny XD I'm not sure if this post will belong to the troll hole and if it's moved there that's ok. I wonder if it has been shared before. I just feel that it's alright to laugh about our selfs some times and take

[Trisquel-users] Re : Web Browser

2018-01-17 Thread lcerf
sloccount "only" finds 9.1 million lines of code in https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/57.0.4/source/firefox-57.0.4.source.tar.xz : $ sloccount firefox/ (...) SLOCDirectory SLOC-by-Language (Sorted) 1455904 media

Re: [Trisquel-users] Adding free software not found in Ubuntu like OpenRC?

2018-01-17 Thread greatgnu
You read my mind.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-17 Thread greatgnu
>reviewing the source code of Chromium Over 18 million LOC, good luck! ;-)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-17 Thread Mason Hock
> I don't mistrust a particular group of people. I question > the value of trust as a whole. Yes, you have argued that because it is impossible to be 100% certain that a piece of software is privacy-respecting, we cannot trust free software to respect our privacy. This in itself is sound, if

Re: [Trisquel-users] Fwd: Re: trisquel 8

2018-01-17 Thread i_write_words
Moderater, please just delete; no more mailing list for this specific "average joe", lol.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Adding free software not found in Ubuntu like OpenRC?

2018-01-17 Thread mappack
He is kidding.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Videotelephony on Trisquel 7

2018-01-17 Thread Cassandra of Troy
Just trying to get this thread back on topic here. Please pardon my ignorance. Mr.Banana is still giving out great advice, but I don't think the original problem has been resolved yet. Does anyone have any experience with a web-based IM client that he can use for videoconferencing? It needs to

[Trisquel-users] Fwd: Re: trisquel 8

2018-01-17 Thread Cassandra of Troy
Forwarded Message Subject: Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 8 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 17:10:00 + From: me To: bob instead of the list because of my own idiocy and impatience; please accept my humble apology. Bob, you should be able to use MATE on T7 just fine. I like window

[Trisquel-users] Re : Videotelephony on Trisquel 7

2018-01-17 Thread lcerf
With the required knowledge (server administration), yes.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mini 64-bit on Old Hardware

2018-01-17 Thread Caleb Herbert
Does your browser use a lot of RAM? Disabling JavaScript will reduce your RAM consumption while also protecting you from proprietary software and malware.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-17 Thread studio
Ok.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Videotelephony on Trisquel 7

2018-01-17 Thread svenerik_vn
> "Not actually, in some XMPP clients like Pidgin, there is a checkbox "Create the account on this server", this will attempt to tell the server to create that account you just inserted --- if the server supports it being done through the client software." Aha, I see, cool :) > "Note that XMPP

Re: [Trisquel-users] Videotelephony on Trisquel 7

2018-01-17 Thread svenerik_vn
Ahha. There's actually an elaborated guidance here: https://xmpp.org/getting-started/ Is it so that anyone can create an XMPP server at their own home or wherever? I'm thinking of this: https://list.jabber.at/

[Trisquel-users] Re : Web Browser

2018-01-17 Thread lcerf
I discuss _privacy_ issues. In the excerpt I quoted, https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Libre_Browsers_Libre_Formats#Browsers_that_might_seem_free.2C_but_are_not is not about privacy. At all. Just a precision in my post: not all Firefox derivatives do not suffer from the freedom issues that

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-17 Thread studio
I discuss _privacy_ issues. The bug reports are about _privacy_ issues. Mention freedom 0 in the bug reports was obviously unnecessary and inappropriate. That's a finished discussion. Long ago. In my last reply to mason I was clarifying that: > The only people from whom I asked to check

[Trisquel-users] Re : Web Browser

2018-01-17 Thread lcerf
Chromium seems just as non-free as Firefox considering the link shared by another poster (https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Libre_Browsers_Libre_Formats#Browsers_that_might_seem_free.2C_but_are_not) yet for some reason people mention it as free, prefer it, fork it and make browsers using the

[Trisquel-users] Re : Adding free software not found in Ubuntu like OpenRC?

2018-01-17 Thread lcerf
All packages for "services" (typically daemons and servers that start at init) must include an init script.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Videotelephony on Trisquel 7

2018-01-17 Thread greatgnu
Was https://jabber.at/ But they (temporarily) suspended new registrations :/ Another one I can recommend is -> https://neko.im/ You should always use OTR (possibly an updated version of it)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Videotelephony on Trisquel 7

2018-01-17 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
Not actually, in some XMPP clients like Pidgin, there is a checkbox "Create the account on this server", this will attempt to tell the server to create that account you just inserted --- if the server supports it being done through the client software. Note that XMPP recommended standards also

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-17 Thread studio
> since then you have seemed to only mistrust free software developers by default This is incorrect. I don't mistrust a particular group of people. I question the value of trust as a whole. > putting the burden on people here who aren't even interested in non-free software like Chromium

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is PyCharm free software?

2018-01-17 Thread bob
So long as you're mindful about the licensing of plugins you install then you should be fine. Also as FindEssential says keep an eye on updates in case they remove features. I use the full-fat (closed) IntelliJ at work, but I use Pycharm community edition at home as a Python IDE. I quite

Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 8

2018-01-17 Thread bob
This is pretty much my school of thought. I'm happy sticking with Trisquel 7 until version 8 is formally announced. I am definitely looking forward to using MATE instead of this weird Gnome 3 fallback mode though :) I'm also still able to get up-to-date libre kernels and packages by adding