Re: [Trisquel-users] Leaving Trisquel over systemd Concerns, Fantastic Project Otherwise, Thanks
Operating systems in general. It's not exclusive to GNU and Linux systems.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Minifree now selling libre routers with libreCMC preinstalled :)
The price.. good Lord At first glance the price does indeed seem expensive. However, when searching online for the price, it seems that this router is sold new for at least 139 dollars, so minifree's product is competitively priced. https://www.cnet.com/products/netgear-n600-dual-band-gigabit-router-premium-edition/prices/ I got mine for less. Of course I did install librecmc myself, but it wasn't really hard. I'm guessing you only replaced the router's firmware (e.g. via the browser interface) without the bootloader. The minifree version will also contain a free bootloader (uboot) unlike the manufacturer's version.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Abrowser: I can't by-passing WebGL Blocklist (to enable WebGL support)
El Sat, 6 Oct 2018 02:07:30 +0200 (CEST) calmst...@posteo.de escribió: > But, isn't webgl a security risk? Not necessarily, although it is true that it may be a security breach indeed. However, I am a computer teacher and I need to use WebGL for some academic projects that require support for this technology. Best regards. -- Fingerprint: 49AA 091A CBF9 632E BD99 9BF2 32D9 E18C 3D99 B685 pgpabMBBr4pBE.pgp Description: Firma digital OpenPGP
[Trisquel-users] Re : Leaving Trisquel over systemd Concerns, Fantastic Project Otherwise, Thanks
There is absolutely no reason to think those problems have anything to do with systemd. I have had a warning about my CPU fan from my BIOs. It's intermittent, I have tons of cooling and the freezing does not occur when I would expect a heavy load. (...) A lot of freezes occur while watching videos but also compiling programs and just at random. My compute never freezes on it's own while I am away from it, it's always while I am using it. Decoding videos and compiling are CPU-intensive tasks! More generally, random freezes under heavy loads suggest a hardware issue. If the processor is not faulty, then it may be the RAM. Have you tested it? You can install the "memtest86+" package, which is in Trisquel's repository, and run it (from the bootloader's menu) during a night. If the screen turns red, the RAM is faulty.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Leaving Trisquel over systemd Concerns, Fantastic Project Otherwise, Thanks
Just wondering, are you referring to gnu/linux before the 2000s? or in general? That aside, desktop environments I think are lightweight/stable. XFCE and LXQT are good ones, LXQT is ugly, but meh... it works fine when I tried it recently. Love/hate issue with it though. XFCE is what I enjoy in that area :)
Re: [Trisquel-users] Leaving Trisquel over systemd Concerns, Fantastic Project Otherwise, Thanks
Well, I gotta agree, you did sound condescending and it surprised me that you of all people made that last comment, you usually don't do that on here from what I know.. but yeah, I don't really like or trust systemd. But its not really due to errors, its the unknown which I know nothing about. Yes systemd hasn't caused me major problems as I know, but I honestly think that people should still be given more of a choice on a variety of distros, then "Shut up! You have no say in the matter! Leave if you don't like it!" I mean isn't free software also about choice and general user freedom? ps, I do agree he should have given more info from the start. But lets not jump to judgment one way or another. Ironic I know given I had in the past, but then, so have some people here... so let's just agree to disagree. okay?
[Trisquel-users] Re : Pictures in backgrounds
Either the file is not named "onda.jpg" (notice that the case, lower or upper, matters) or you did not open the folder with "onda.jpg" in the terminal (I do not use the default desktop environment but a right click on the folder certainly provides a contextual menu that should propose something like "Open in terminal").
Re: [Trisquel-users] Abrowser: I can't by-passing WebGL Blocklist (to enable WebGL support)
But, isn't webgl a security risk?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Minifree now selling libre routers with libreCMC preinstalled :)
That's odd, 98euros seems like alot... Not trying to be rude, I got mine for less. Of course I did install librecmc myself, but it wasn't really hard. I am puzzled. Either way, there are a lot of those routers. So it does make sense to sell them with librecmc on them. ;)
[Trisquel-users] Re : Minifree now selling libre routers with libreCMC preinstalled :)
The price.. good Lord
Re: [Trisquel-users] Keyboard shortcut combinations for taking screenshot?
> Is there any way to map it so that it instantly screenshots only the active > window? Use the command 'mate-screenshot --window'. $ man mate-screenshot to see more options. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [Trisquel-users] Keyboard shortcut combinations for taking screenshot?
That's great! Is there any way to map it so that it instantly screenshots only the active window?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Leaving Trisquel over systemd Concerns, Fantastic Project Otherwise, Thanks
> http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_distributions_without_systemd Not all of these distros are free. ConnochaetOS, Parabola, Hyperbola, and GuixSD are, but I wouldn't recommend any of the others on this list without checking them out first. Also, Trisquel is on that list even though it has used systemd since Trisquel 8. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [Trisquel-users] Linux Kernel Vulnerability
actually i belive debian uses their version of the linux libre kernal but i dont think there is cause for alarm at all it will get fixed sooner or later and will reach trisquel eventually
Re: [Trisquel-users] Leaving Trisquel over systemd Concerns, Fantastic Project Otherwise, Thanks
there are systemd free gnu/linux distributions http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_distributions_without_systemd as far as i know none of the bsd operating systems use systemd there is also true os which is based on freebsd https://www.trueos.org/ http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Operating_systems_without_systemd
[Trisquel-users] Minifree now selling libre routers with libreCMC preinstalled :)
Hi all, https://minifree.org/product/minifree-wndr3800-libre-router/ FSF RYF coming soon :) ~Leah
Re: [Trisquel-users] Leaving Trisquel over systemd Concerns, Fantastic Project Otherwise, Thanks
I used Freenix for six months. It was decent. Reminded me of my FreeBSD days.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Leaving Trisquel over systemd Concerns, Fantastic Project Otherwise, Thanks
It seems like people are always replacing old software that worked with new software that doesn't. not always, but i know the feeling. feel free send me an email if you want to talk about ways to address all of this, unless you want to stay on the forum, that works too. theres a contact link next to my name-- if you want to avoid the captcha, just tell me to contact you instead. then i will do the captcha work for you.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Leaving Trisquel over systemd Concerns, Fantastic Project Otherwise, Thanks
fair enough. also yes, i did have you mixed up with one of the guys in charge of servers at fsf. not sure how that happened, there it is. for what its worth, i agree the original post would be a lot better if it had gone in a more constructive direction. its almost like one bug was encountered and they were like "okthxbye!" which i would just chalk up to, you go to the trouble of installing a distro, you encounter a bug that you think is because of something you already dislike-- frustration gets the better of you and this is what happens. not a high-quality post, but im glad it has triggered some high-quality responses regardless of that.
Re: [Trisquel-users] connesct to network (wifi) with Lenovo ThinkPad e504
The card requires proprietary firmware to run however there have been reports about some Realtek cards working without firmware on recent linux-libre kernels, so you could try a more recent kernel.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Leaving Trisquel over systemd Concerns, Fantastic Project Otherwise, Thanks
On 2018-10-04 10:50 PM, onp...@riseup.net wrote: > Operating systems are a lot more complex than "has systemd" and > "doesn't have systemd". They were freezing, crashing, and just plain > not working long before systemd came along, and the reasons are > numerous and varied. I think there may be better ways to solve most > problems than to throw away arbitrary components and hope that > resolves them. > > I've never experienced the problem you describe, but I wonder if it > might be at a higher level given that you can still move the mouse. > What desktop environment are you using? MATE, LXDE, or something else? > It might be worthwhile to try a different desktop environment and see > if that works better. > Of course your right. I should try to debug this and/or ask for help. So first off, disclosure, I have had a warning about my CPU fan from my BIOs. It's intermittent, I have tons of cooling and the freezing does not occur when I would expect a heavy load and the mouse still works and the computer does not shut down but still, something I should mention to be fair... I am running vanilla Trisquel 8 with Mate. I installed VLC right away. I had trouble with it and loaded a bunch of libraries to sort things out. It turned out to be a VLC bug. I ended up uninstalling and using totem again. A lot of freezes occur while watching videos but also compiling programs and just at random. My compute never freezes on it's own while I am away from it, it's always while I am using it. This is the only valuable information I can provide so far. Thanks everyone for the valuable feedback. As a side note... I am 42 year old but I might as well be 82 when it comes to technology, GET OFF MY LAWN!. I work with scientific instruments for a living and they just keep getting worse and worse. Software also seems worse and worse to me. It seems like people are always replacing old software that worked with new software that doesn't. I am just not sold on the need for systemd and I am just not excited about it. I would rather just walk away and debug without it in the picture. Having said that, this is a fantastic project and if there is anything I can do to help, I would like to. Thanks
Re: [Trisquel-users] Leaving Trisquel over systemd Concerns, Fantastic Project Otherwise, Thanks
"there isnt enough information from the original poster to troubleshoot anything" Exactly; this was my point. :) "working directly for the free software foundation" Maybe you have me confused with someone else? I have never worked for the FSF. Trisquel's fearless leader Rubén a.k.a. quidam does; he's here: https://www.fsf.org/about/staff-and-board Obviously anyone can run (or not run) whatever software they want. And: That obviously includes systemd as well, since it's also software. This is so obvious (to me) that I don't think it needed to be said but there it is. The same goes for whatever distro someone uses since that is, also, really a collection of software. But: One should at least be honest about the reason that they're not using a given program. Or leaving a distro. "I just don't like it" is probably a valid reason but there is probably a more descriptive underlying reason beyond "I just don't like it." But: Blaming a program for system crashes or other problems seems not so much. Because, with troubleshooting, that can be proven to be an objectively a true or false thing. But there seems so much dislike of systemd (or perhaps that's only my perception due to the adage about squeaky wheels) that it automatically gets blamed for everything by default. In this case the thread seemed to start off with an automatic blame of systemd for their computer's ills. If they'd left with "I'm leaving Trisquel because I just don't like systemd" I probably would not have commented at all, but of course that isn't their stated reason. Their stated reason isn't that they don't like systemd but because it's causing their system to crash. I'm not sure how they arrived at that conclusion because, as you agreed, there isn't enough information to go on. "I will post here again if I more confident that it was in fact systemd" seems to help confirm that they don't even know that it was in fact systemd. Maybe they don't have the necessary skills to do the proper troubleshooting (but the collective Trisquel community does) but they're jumping to that conclusion and it's being blamed as the cause as if it were nonetheless. And so: The second part of my original message was intended only as a commentary on this "blame systemd by default" thing and not to be condescending (or anything else) to anyone. I'm sorry if it came across that way.
Re: [Trisquel-users] installation of GNU GRUB 2 in Windows 10 OS
Just boot a live system and install GRUB with that. I highly doubt GNU prioritized using Windows to install GRUB.
[Trisquel-users] installation of GNU GRUB 2 in Windows 10 OS
How to install GNU GRUB 2 in Windows 10 Dell inspiron Laptop
Re: [Trisquel-users] connesct to network (wifi) with Lenovo ThinkPad e504
05:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter On Fri, 05 Oct 2018 10:40:35 +0200 wrote Which wireless card are you using? You can the card by running the command "lspci | grep Wireless".
Re: [Trisquel-users] connesct to network (wifi) with Lenovo ThinkPad e504
Which wireless card are you using? You can the card by running the command "lspci | grep Wireless".
[Trisquel-users] connesct to network (wifi) with Lenovo ThinkPad e504
Hello I have a laptop that I recently installed Trisquel 8.0 LTS Flidas, But I do not have the ability to connect to wifi I tried all the ways I found on the Internet searches, but I still can not connect At the moment, I can only connect to the Internet through mobile phones (usb tethering) I am resident in Iran and I am limited by the options offered by the FSF () Please, if possible, give suggestions in order to fix the defect in the form of software and not hardware $ uname -a Linux life 4.4.0-137-generic #163+8.0trisquel2 SMP Tue Oct 2 10:35:51 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux i@life:~$ iw list i@life:~$ ifconfig enp4s0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 28:d2:44:d8:9b:82 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) enp4s0:avahi Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 28:d2:44:d8:9b:82 inet addr:169.254.9.217 Bcast:169.254.255.255 Mask:255.255.0.0 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:65536 Metric:1 RX packets:1658171 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1658171 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1 RX bytes:432348201 (432.3 MB) TX bytes:432348201 (432.3 MB) i@life:~$ iwconfig lo no wireless extensions. enp4s0 no wireless extensions. i@life:~$ ifconfig enp0s20u2 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr e2:53:55:8e:2f:c3 inet addr:192.168.42.249 Bcast:192.168.42.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::e9a3:253e:ea3e:b7b6/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:5 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:14 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:667 (667.0 B) TX bytes:11213 (11.2 KB) enp4s0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 28:d2:44:d8:9b:82 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) enp4s0:avahi Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 28:d2:44:d8:9b:82 inet addr:169.254.9.217 Bcast:169.254.255.255 Mask:255.255.0.0 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:65536 Metric:1 RX packets:1658433 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1658433 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1 RX bytes:432403581 (432.4 MB) TX bytes:432403581 (432.4 MB) sudo nano /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf [main] plugins=ifupdown,keyfile,ofono dns=dnsmasq [ifupdown] managed=false [device] wifi.scan-rand-mac-address=no
Re: [Trisquel-users] Leaving Trisquel over systemd Concerns, Fantastic Project Otherwise, Thanks
"absolutely no troubleshooting has been mentioned having been performed in this thread." there isnt enough information from the original poster to troubleshoot anything, and they expressed no interest in doing anything except migrating, so the odds of troubleshooting are going to be low. i find the arguments youre trying to start in your post to be condescending and one-sided and far beneath what i would expect of anyone working directly for the free software foundation. if i hadnt stopped funding the fsf already, i would consider doing so based on the arrogance of your post. at least stop talking down to entire classes of people you dont know (or dont agree with) like someone from the open source side, jxself. what the heck?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Leaving Trisquel over systemd Concerns, Fantastic Project Otherwise, Thanks
making hyperbola more newbie friendly should be trivial to do without bothering any of the hyperbola devs. what init does it use?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Leaving Trisquel over systemd Concerns, Fantastic Project Otherwise, Thanks
how hard do you think it would be to maintain Trisquel 7, without systemd? I don't really care about new packages but I do care about security. What do you think would be involved? _ i was working on this (tonight) before i came to the forum. ive done a number of things with automated distro modification, usually around already-systemd-free distros. if its possible to install another init once trisquel is installed, then it should be possible to modify the live image before trisquel is installed, using chroot and unsquashfs and mksquashfs and genisoimage. this approach requires no cooperation from the maintainers, and can be worked on solo and distributed as a single script. however, it depends entirely on what you mean by "without systemd." i started this adventure by remixing refracta (devuan-based) after migrating from debian to devuan in early 2015. and the last i checked devuan, they had relaxed their definition of what it means to run "without systemd." it was possible to change init, it was possible to get away from libsystemd, and now "without systemd" means less than a guaranteed avoidance of libsystemd-- even in a distro that exists specifically to get away from it! everyone working on this seems to have a complicated or secret way of doing this-- there is no workshop on getting rid of systemd where everyone can benefit from the knowledge. i refuse to use systemd, i wouldnt touch trisquel either (i used it between 2007 and 2009) unless it was an opportunity to try to remove systemd from the live iso, and then from the installation. systemd uses .service files, but even on a "systemd-free" system, removing the .service files can cause problems. so systemd is a lot of fun to remove, because everything (it seems) is being rebuilt/recompiled to require it. except the many things that arent. there is no definitive or authoritative answer on what it would take to remove systemd from a distro. most people arent both talking about and researching it with data. if they know, they dont really say. the systemd devs of course are completely uninterested in people using alternatives. to me, thats a principal reason to avoid it. developers who are so openly antagonistic to freedom shouldnt be trusted to create infrastructure for free software-- unless their work is obvious enough for enough users to understand. theres a false equivocation between systemd and other inits-- that other inits arent interested in your ability to use alternatives either. no other init system was created by combining several existing discrete software components into one so that to use one part you more or less needed the others. no other init system was ever half as antagonistic towards alternatives. devuan works by automating package rebuilding. last i checked, devuan 1.0 (which i used) was closer to being systemd-free than devuan 2.0, i dont have an update on that. the only devuan-based distro i would bother with is refracta, but i think the developer of gnuinos is also a very good guy. im not sure that my efforts to remove systemd from trisquel will lead to something useful. remove systemd, and stuff that depends on it (but shouldnt) will stop working. true of any software, but more true of systemd. you fix that by racing against people who seem rather bent on removing your choice-- if thats not true, then devuan serves no actual purpose.
