TL;DR
I've tried out Uruk GNU/Linux 2.0 beta2.
I liked it.
What this is:
This post is a little feedback / review on trying to try out the second beta
of Uruk 2. I half expected that the final release would be out before this
post, and that's indeed what happened, but I'll post this
>mouses
Not about freedom, but ethics nonetheless: For "fair" mouses, have a look at
https://www.nager-it.de/en (website available in English, German, French,
Hungarian, and Mandarin).
IIRC, someone described their approach as making sure as much as possible is
done in countries and
To those who use an up-to-date Uruk GNU/Linux: Does Uruk (or probably just
its default file manager, I think it was Caja, in its default configuration)
still have these two bugs?
One was that it tried to open everything and their dog using the image viewer
(or document viewer?): When you use
Excellent, thanks a lot.
>What problem are you trying to solve by removing these packages? It's
possible that there is a less invasive solution.
Just cluttered font lists/menus. It's such a small problem that I feel I've
wasted your time again; that's also why I wrote "If there is no way,
Correction:
I wrote "Sometimes Caja won't scroll to the bottom of the Control Center
window", but I think Caja is not involved at all in the Control Center
window, so I don't know why I wrote that.
Thank you!
On issue no. 24 (and possibly also related to issue no. 21 in this this
post):
Trisquel 9 has a clock in the panel by default, and you can add a different
clock in any panel (open panel's context menu → Add to Panel…).
Appending --timezone=Europe/Berlin before starting the live system does
Logged out, logged in, now both clocks show the correct time.
>We can look into it now.
Thank you. I'm looking forward to it, but won't have time to try a live
Debian ISO before Thursday UTC 20:00 at the earliest; weekend would be
better.
>Let me know if you need instructions on how to do this.
I'm confident that I'll be able to find the ISO,
(I think this is too long to go on the Trisquel 9 Issues page, so I'm putting
a link from there to here. Also, I will probably always tag the wrong
component or even project out of ignorance.)
Within the default panel, launcher icons and the main menu icon can be moved
to the right side of
No, I didn't. It never occured to me that doing so might help. I see
unlocking the window list lets me move the other icon back across it.
Thanks.
But I guess one must also install some help content, as
Control Center → Hardware → Keyboard → Help
now opens a help window, but that help window is empty except for a message
saying
"Document Not Found
The URI ‘help:mate-user-guide/goscustperiph-2’ does not point to a valid
page."
>I can't reproduce this. When I right click on the desktop or Caja and
immediately release the menu pops up and remains there until I press Esc or
click elsewhere. No options get selected unless I then click on one.
After checking again both on the desktop and in Caja, it seems that a very
On the Trisquel 9 preview, in the Popup Notification Settings, does the
preview button work for you? For me, nothing happens, but it's a very minor
issue and I've already brought up so many issues that turned out to be my
ignorance about how to achieve this or that.
Thanks.
TLDR: No, it looks like Debian doesn't handle my bad graphics card any
better. Nothing for Trisquel 9 to learn from Debian here.
I tried an Xfce-flavoured Debian live ISO, and apparently my graphics card,
Debian and my monitor did not get along too well with each other. Screen
resolution
>Are notifications working at all?
I didn't see any during that run of Trisquel 9 beta (I'll just call it "beta"
so people from the future reading this will not assume this affects the final
stable release of Trisquel 9), or at least not since I started this thread.
I tried this and that
In the default image viewer of Trisquel 7, you can set the zoom level to
simple fractions / multiples of 100 % by holding Ctrl while repeatedly
pressing the plus or minus key on your keyboard until you reach the desired
level.
The above does not work with Viewnior, the default image viewer
On Trisquel 9, is there / will there be a way to get rid of fonts that are
dependencies of trisquel-desktop-common, such as fonts-stix and
fonts-mathjax? Manually deleting them turned out to be a bad idea. If there
is no way, that's fine, too.
Sorry, I should have said "an EASY way".
I just found the thread "Trisquel 9 Beta - Cannot Install Gnome Desktop"; I
wonder if the approach chaosmonk describes there would work for this, as
well. But I'd probably break my system trying :D
>Have you ever tried it with Debian main?
Yes, sorry, I forgot to list Debian. I used Debian – vanilla I think –
for some months. That was so long ago I don't know which version it was, but
I think it let me use the monitor's native 1680×1050, and I'm fairly sure I
was using the same
>>when I release my click, I must be super careful not to inadvertently be
hovering over something I don't mean to select
>Can you not just right click and release immediately, and then move your
mouse to the option you want to select …
That's what I always TRY to do, but apparently my
>popcon is actually better, because it measures not just how many times an
app is installed, but also how often it is actually used
That's good. I think it's a very bad idea to translate install count to
popularity. I often install things I've never heard of, of which I have only
a dim
Issue no. 24:
Cannot adjust Trisquel's time.
Have Trisquel connected to the internet. Open "Time & Date Settings…" →
"Configuration: Manual"; "Time:" Try to change time by a few minutes in
either direction. Expected behaviour: Time change accepted. Actual behaviour:
About 1 second after
Thank you very much for Trisquel.
I have some feedback below, I hope some of it will be useful.
Overall and so far, I like Trisquel 9 much. No showstoppers for me. My
feedback below is only about those things that I do not like or that are
giving me some trouble. They are not representative
Still no success on the IME front.
I found "Writing non-Latin languages" (via "All Manuals") and followed the
advice. I successfully installed both ibus-hangul and fcitx-hangul with all
their dependencies (as well as nabi). Trisquel's manual page says: "After
that, you would press
Issue no. 25:
Open Caja, the default file manager, or Pluma, the default text editor.
Click F1 or press "Alt+H", "C" to open help.
Nothing seems to happen.
Issue no. 26:
Open "Time & Date Settings…".
Click "Help" or press "Alt+H".
See "Could not display help / Failed to execute child process
I thought you were looking for a dictionary explaining the meaning of
computing terms, but "something like" a list of shortcuts sounds very
different.
>Can you please tell me what graphics card you have?
Sorry, but is there an easy way I could try to find out what graphics card I
have while running the live distro? If not, this might take a while or
require a restart (which would make me lose all my settings).
I've installed and run sysinfo, which says:
“VGA compatible controller:
Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV710 [Radeon HD 4350/4550] (prog-if
00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: PC Partner Limited / Sapphire Technology RV710 [Radeon HD
4350/4550]”
Thanks for your reply, I will look into it later today.
For now just some good news: Issue no. 22 is solved, I found you can set a
user password via Control Center → About Me (which is not the place where I
would've expected this to be, I only found it by chance), and lock works
normally
I see, thanks. I think your solution wouldn't seem obvious to someone who's
trying out Trisquel. At the very least, help should work as soon as you
switch from a live system to installing Trisquel; hope this is already the
case.
I see, thank you.
>Have you tried this graphics card with other distros …
Tails, very probably Mint, probably Fedora, possibly Suse, Xubuntu, Ubuntu.
(I'm sure that I've used those distros, but I don't remember at which point I
bought this computer (with graphics card) or when I bought
Thank you.
It's
https://h-node.org/videocards/view/en/11/Advanced-Micro-Devices--AMD--nee-ATI-RV710--Radeon-HD-4350-
It seems to have worked on Trisquel up to Trisquel 5.5 Brigantia, whatever
that means; perhaps it really worked, perhaps it only worked because they
used different monitor
> To make it clear, I am not a programmer.
Nor am I, to make it clear. Not even a hobbyist and not involved with
Trisquel other than using it, and I cannot answer your question on
customization. I just thought maybe you've used video conferencing software
(without actively using the video,
Using the 2020-03-29 ISO of Trisquel 9 on a live USB, Trisquel says:
Unable to mount [device]
Error unlocking /dev/sdb[number]: The function 'bd_crypto_luks_open_blob'
called, but not implemented!
It works perfectly fine from an installed Trisquel 7. How can I make it work
from the Trisquel 9
Cool, thanks for testing.
You can get the AMD64 version from end of March 2020:
http://jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso-etiona/iso/trisquel_9.0_amd64.iso
Or the i686 version from January 2020:
http://jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso-etiona/iso/20200117/trisquel_9.0_i686.iso
For other stuff like
Also, if you have time for this later, I'd appreciate any opinions you (or
Dave, or others) may have about Jami, Jitsi, Wire etc. (I hope those are free
enough to be discussed) in terms of accessibility, perhaps more appropriately
in the other forum. I have to use such software for work, and
I don't think they are final until they are announced at
https://listas.trisquel.info/pipermail/trisquel-announce/
But thanks for bringing my attention to a new Trisquel Mini, I shall try it
on a laptop prone to overheating due to either the case around the keyboard
being slightly detached
Typing lshw -C cpu in a terminal gives "width: 64 bits" and "capabilities:
x86-64 […]".
Typing uname -m or arch gives "x86_64".
Typing cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep flags gives, among many other flags, "[…]
lm […]".
Does all this mean that I should use the ISOs marked "amd64"? And had the
Great, thank you very much. I should've thought of searching for my error
message.
I haven't seen any mention of the latest ISO, so here goes:
http://jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso-etiona/iso/
Thank you!
As earlier, Torrent doesn't seem to work.
>Having guidance such as "If your computer is from 2007 or newer, just
download the 64-bit image" in a readme near the ISOs or in the wiki would
save many people time
Actually, instead of "the 64-bit image", a wording such as "the files with
'amd64' in the filename" would be even better,
I have downloaded the 2020-04-21 version of trisquel-mini_9.0_amd64.iso from
http://jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso-etiona/iso/ because I assumed that it is
a working (if unfinished) version intended to be tried out. Can I check if
everything went well by comparing the contents of
Thank you!
>Therefore I don't find such a searchable page necessary.
But see, I didn't know what you know. It's not universal knowledge that
"i686" means "32-bit processors" and that these are near obsolete. Having
guidance such as "If your computer is from 2007 or newer, just download the
It's all good now!
I wrote that the model checksum from
http://jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso-etiona/iso/trisquel-mini_9.0_amd64.iso.sha256
is acae2029[…]b589d9f9", but (now, at least) it's 60c36600[…]9f6d140b,
the same as my last download's checksum output.
Also I noticed my first ISO
Thanks. I did as you recommended. Sums don't match:
The model one from
http://jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso-etiona/iso/trisquel-mini_9.0_amd64.iso.sha256
is acae2029[…]b589d9f9
Doing "sha256sum trisquel-mini_9.0_amd64.iso" on my old download gave
5b31273[…]30c3272e.
But doing the same
>So in my opinion, one sentence is more than enough: If your computer is
built in 2007 or later, the amd64 image is recommended, otherwise please use
the i686 image.
I don't see why you think it's *more than* enough – for me, it would have
been perfect, any less would be worse. Having had
Ah yes, installation succeeded.
The session login prompt offers 3 window managers: "Trisquel Mini" (default,
I don't know what it's based on), LXDE and Openbox. But I cannot start an
Openbox session: I clicked Trisquel's crippled swastika logo, selected
Openbox, gave my ID and passphrase,
> security issue
If nothing else gets done about the desktop visibility thing, I think there
should be a warning in a prominent place about this, at least in the release
notes.
Does it just show the background or does it seem to include panel(s) and open
windows?
> Executing 'systemctl restart networking' or 'systemctl restart
NetworkManager' should be enough.
Thanks. But no, neither of them did the trick. I tried both commands, first
with "Enable Networking" checked and then in between unchecking and checking
it, and waited for a few seconds after
"Lock screen" on Mini doesn't do anything. No password prompt, no blank
screen, no screensaver. This is an installation (so I have set a password) of
Trisquel 9 Mini, using LXDE.
Waking from suspend doesn't prompt for a password, either. I don't remember
what it was like when waking from
I found out that internet does work after waking from hibernation, so I can
just hibernate more instead of suspending.
Internet still doesn't work after waking from suspension. (Trisquel Mini,
updated less than an hour ago)
> One of the commands gave an error message, the other didn't. I
> I don't remember what it was like when waking from hibernation.
Waking from hibernation does prompt. (Trisquel Mini)
Yes, or try something like the add-on uBlock Origin (GPLv3): you click on its
icon, then toggle the symbol ("Click to no longer disable JavaScript on
this site" ↔ "Click to disable JavaScript on this site")
Fun!
>Zoom which my university is using right now limits video conferences of more
than 3 students to 40 minutes or less unless you pay them.
I do advise to stay away from Zoom for other reasons, but this particular
thing is not a terribly big deal: As soon as the 40 minutes are over and the
In my case, it is important for me to learn which software I can expect
people (many of whom happen to be much more tech-savvy than me, but others
not so) to install and use. I don't think it's arrogant, at least if people
don't have *any* conferencing software installed yet. If using
> I upgraded from a fresh Trisquel 8 installation.
You mean first you tried the graphical installer, it didn't work, and then
you upgraded from 8 instead, and that did work?
> Suspend does not work well.
I am now using Trisquel Mini 9. Suspend works, but after waking it back up,
there is
This time, internet works even though I don't think I restarted!? I have no
idea why. After waking up from suspend, I used logout and login AND Magic
Banana's command, but it's possible it didn't even need all that, I failed to
check. A nice surprise, anyway. I wonder if I can find some
I think I installed from
http://jenkins.trisquel.info/makeiso-etiona/iso/20200421/trisquel-mini_9.0_amd64.iso
Using the "graphical" installer because see first message in this thread.
I haven't got a smartphone.
If you cannot install Trisquel Mini on your Eeee PC, have you checked if you
I hope this helps:
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/mounting-and-unlocking-luks-encrypted-devices#comment-147954
A potentially very useful feature less trivial to implement than mere
bundling of entertainment and encyclopedic content would be a routing service
requiring only a one-time download of geoinformation and map tiles for a
locality you choose – OSM already lets you do this[1] – and from then
For anyone interested, I think here's how to defuse Red Star:
https://github.com/takeshixx/redstar-tools#user-content-disable-malicious-components
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