Okay, You're Right. OYROIAF Is A Forum.
The 'download' feature in mps-youtube may work differently, since that
probably doesn't use mpv, but if the stream feature just tells mpv what link
to stream from it shouldn't be able to do anything mpv can't.
Streaming is downloading. If something wasn't on your computer and now it is,
you've downloaded it, whether or not it gets saved to disc. Unless I'm
mistaken, mpv uses youtube-dl (by default) or avideo to stream. If it is
using avideo, it shouldn't be able to stream anything avideo can't
If I understand correctly, since mps-youtube only searches YouTube and relies
on another media player to actually stream the videos, it will depend on how
the chosen media player handles streaming. If you are using mpv with avideo
in the background as Calher suggested in the other thread,
Maybe youtube-viewer or mps-youtube will work better. Both work fine for me
in Trisquel 8. mps-youtube is even in the repository now, so you won't have
to use pip.
Now that you've upgraded, see if you have better luck with those youtube
applications.
I'm on the fence here, in that I'm not a fan of Amazon or Google, but I don't
know that this is a software freedom issue. I would have a problem with the
Amazon search engine being built into the desktop environment Ubuntu-style,
as I would consider that an endorsement, but one-click search
I installed Trisquel 8 from the previous alpha ISO from a few months ago. I
had trouble with the text installer, and I haven't gotten around to trying
the new ISO to see if this is fixed, but the graphical installer worked fine.
The next issue was that firmware-ath9k-htc (firmware for the
> Unfortunately, some videos, like music videos, will not play without
> proprietary software.
Oh shit, I didn't consider that. That's a really good point.
GrevenGull, it's possible that the videos you've been using to test
youtube-viewer, mpv, and mps-youtube have DRM or something. This is
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Startpage appears to be fully functional without JavaScript. Cool!
If you are new to GNU/Linux it is easy to be confused about the difference
between the operating system and the desktop environment, because Window$ and
macOS don't offer multiple desktop environments. You can think of the DE as
the graphical interface over the underlying OS.
LXDE (the
I recommend that you use one of these Firefox/Abrowser/IceCat addons.
(1) NoScript (installed by default in Tor Browser) will block JavaScript code
from all webpages unless you explicitly choose to allow it on a particular
page.
(2) LibreJS (installed by default in IceCat) will allow
You might be under the impression that JavaScript is a program in your
browser, when it is in fact a programming language. Like any other
programming language, it can be used to create libre or proprietary software.
When you allow JavaScript on a webpage, your browser is installing and
The JavaScript version of DuckDuckGo is non-free, and the HTML version does
not have video search feature.
YouTube's JavaScript is also non-free.
Minitube no longer works unless it is compiled with a Google API key that you
can only get with a Google account and would presumably identify you to
Google every time you watch a video with your build.
If you have a 64-bit machine with Debian or Trisquel you could try the
binaries from
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.html
https://onpon4.github.io/other/kill-js/
Sorry, I'm running out of ideas. I've had no problems with youtube-viewer in
Trisquel 8 and never used it in Trisquel 7.
For now, you could just use gtk-youtube-viewer for searching, right click on
the video you want to play, select 'more details', copy the URL and paste it
into vlc.
Okay, that means you already had Python 3 installed.
Try switching to a different player with > set player name-of-the-player
Repeat until one of them works or you've tried all of the players you have
installed. I'm running out of ideas.
Hm. Perhaps this package is not in the Trisquel 7 repo. I don't know if
that's the problem because I don't know what the package does. Let's remove
that one from the list of packages we are installing and see if we can
install everything else.
$ sudo apt install liblwp-protocol-https-perl
I think you forgot to attach the screenshot.
To clarify, 'apt update' updates the repository to see if upgrades are
available. 'apt upgrade' installs any available upgrades.
In the comment you refer to, I suggested running both commands because you
had already installed youtube-viewer and I wasn't sure if it was the latest
version.
Your question about the grub config file was unrelated to youtube-viewer.
I see, thanks.
> Maybe there is even a market for this.
My macOS-used musician friends have been trained by Wirth's law to think that
they always need the most recent hardware. It would be much easier to
convince them to use a Corebooted and ME-cleaned laptop less than a few years
old than to explain to
It could be that you're using Python 2 and mps-youtube expects 3. Install
Python 3
$ sudo apt install python3
and try again.
[code]this is code[/code]
Change '[' and ']' to '' and you get
this is code
Okay, assuming you typed it correctly it might only be in the Trisquel 8
repo. You might have to install it via pip as suggested, but it really isn't
too hard.
$ sudo apt install python3-pip
$ sudo pip3 install mps-youtube
Then follow the instructions in my previous comment starting with$
I had a Replicant question recently. The IRC was dead except for some weird
racist spam, but the mailing list got back to me in a couple days, so you
could try that in the future.
Did you already set mps-youtube's default player to mpv with> set player mpv?
If so, try a different player. When I tried mpv I only got audio, no video. I
then tried vlc which worked.
If you still want to try to get youtube-viewer working, run it from a
terminal$ gtk-youtube-viewerattempt to play a video, and copy/paste any
errors you get here.
It is in the repo.$ sudo apt install mps-youtube
It has a cli. Start it with$ mpsytset its video player to vlc with> set
player vlcsearch for 'query' with> .queryand play the nth result with> n
If I recall correctly, while SMPlayer is free software, the SMTube plugin
that allows it to stream from YouTube is not, so it is disabled in Trisquel.
Okay, run the UI from a terminal$ gtk-youtube-viewerattempt to play a video,
and copy/paste any errors you get here.
Here's something else to try if you've determined that your video player
isn't the issue.
Run the cli (command line interface) for youtube-viewer with$ youtube-viewer
Type a keyword and press enter to search for videos, and then type 1 and
press enter to play the first search result. See if
This is related enough that it can probably stay in the same thread. Since
it's not really a Trisquel issue let's not have too many separate threads.
Which video player do you have under 'video_player_selected'? Make sure that
this video player is definitely installed, and then try to play
youtube-viewer is probably included in "and others"
No problem. Press [Enter] to continue like it says and install
youtube-viewer. Just don't install anything else from this PPA without
checking the license first to make sure it's free software.
Here you go.
https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/the-linux-command-line_william-e-shotts-jr/599264/#isbn=1593273894
I've explained how I found it here, since it's more relevant to that thread:
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/how-do-you-get-your-books-2#comment-125294
For buying a specific physical book, I will sometimes search for the book on
Amazon through Tor without JavaScript, click on "Other Sellers," find the
website for one of the other sellers, and buy it from them directly.
I like Powell's, but their search engine requires JavaScript, so I
I assume that have added youtube-viewer
https://github.com/trizen/youtube-viewer
via the PPA with$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8
Now update the repository with$ sudo apt updateand install with$ sudo apt
install youtube-viewer
Try running$ sudo apt updatefirst. If that doesn't work, start a new thread.
David is right that there should be one topic per thread. No one is going to
look for information about YouTube in a thread about water cooling.
I don't recommend using Rekonq anyway because it has been discontinued, but
when you spot things like that you can report it here:
https://trisquel.info/en/project/issues
When I used Trisquel 7 I found that the text installer worked better than the
graphical installer. It may look intimidating, but if you accept the defaults
and select the 'Trisquel' desktop environment (not 'Triskel' as I
accidentally did my first time and ended up with a very ugly
> But pragmatically speaking, it also provide the possibility for some people
to achieve partial freedom with modern hardware. This is a value.
I agree with you here. If I understand correctly, your view is that the
service Purism provides is important and beneficial enough that in spite of
My 'video_players' field looks a little different, even though we are using
the same version of youtube-viewer (3.3.1). Copy/paste that field to a text
document so that you can undo this if it doesn't work, and then replace that
field with this:
{
For me Synapse uses DuckDuckGo as its search engine, and I don't see a place
to change it. Perhaps it uses the search engine of your default browser. What
is your default browser?
In general, this is a good resource for finding alternatives to a program.
My last comment (#53) was a response to #51 but is showing up as a response
to #52. I've noticed this bug before. I think it's because #51 was the last
comment on page 1 when I responded and has since been pushed to page 2.
Thank you for acknowledging that the issue is *not* whether Purism's laptops
have non-free components, but whether they disclose this. There are two
separate discussions here:
(1) Purism makes the minimum number of freedom compromises necessary to avoid
having to use older hardware. The
A fatal error is one that causes the program to exit. Nothing to be worried
about.
Can you send a screen shot of your gtk-youtube-viewer preferences, beginning
with 'video_player_selected'?
The Midori issue is probably unrelated. Is trisquel.info the only site you're
having trouble with?
After changing 'video_player_selected' to mpv, (re)installing mpv, running
gtk-youtube-viewer from a terminal, and trying to play a video, what appears
in the terminal? Is it still 'sh: mpv:
Let's change it back to mpv. (In general I prefer vlc, but mpv is more
reliable for streaming.) and make sure that mpv is definitely installed$ sudo
apt install mpvand try again.
If it still doesn't work, run $ sudo apt update
$ sudo apt upgrade 'apt update' will update the Trisquel
Okay, LXDE doesn't have a GUI for editing keybindings. You have to edit a
config file.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Keyboard#Create_New_Keyboard_shortcuts
(Lubuntu is a flavor of Ubuntu with LXDE as its default desktop environment,
similarly to how Trisquel Mini is a flavor of
Xfce is a desktop environment, like Lxde (which is what you are using since
it's the default in Trisquel Mini).
Any desktop environment including Xfce, Gnome (the default in Trisquel 7),
MATE (the default in Trisquel 8), and Lxde should have a menu for setting
keybindings. However, it may
Go to Menu->Preferences and scroll down to 'video_player_selected' (see
second screenshot). That is the video player that YouTube Viewer will use to
play the videos. If you don't have that video player installed, either
install it or change it to your preferred video player out of the ones
You can either build it from source or use a PPA. For a beginner I'd
recommend a PPA.
$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8will allow you to install
it like you'd install any Trisquel package, either in a terminal$ sudo apt
install youtube-vieweror in Synaptic.
In general, if
Sorry we didn't find an easier solution. I'm glad it's working now.
The advantage of using these programs instead of youtube.com is avoiding (1)
proprietary JavaScript and (2) being tracked. It would be better to avoid
YouTube altogether in order to minimize Google's power over our access to
information, but in situations where you have to use YouTube it is
Not quite. Those instructions were for launching Main Menu from Synapse after
installing Synapse. It sounds like you've already solved your problem, but
I'll explain anyway because I think you'll find it useful next time you can't
find something. Searching Synapse is much easier than digging
If you want to add an icon, then click the square to the left of the 'Name'
field, navigate to
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/
and select
alacarte.png
Run $ sudo apt install alacarte
$ alacarte(Don't type the $'s, that just means you aren't running as root.)
This menu editor has no advantages over the default one except that I know
the terminal command for it.
Now let's add this menu editor to the menu so that we don't have to use the
I'd be very surprised if apt isn't working. Runsudo apt install synapse
synapseSynapse will appear in the center of the screen. Type 'main menu' and
press enter.
Did you try davidpgil's suggestion of using Synapse?
Okay, I'm out of ideas except for uninstalling Guix completely and
reinstalling. Unfortunately I can't find anything in the documentation about
uninstalling. A fresh install of T7 would work as a last resort.
Maybe ADFENO will stop by and save the day. In the meantime, you might try
the
It sounds like the desktop files are missing, which explains why they aren't
showing up in menus and Synapse. Now we just have to figure out how to get
them back.
Did you reinstall Guix after returning to Trisquel 7, or is this the current
install from when you were using Trisquel 8?
Try
Just double checking that it matches what's in the ${XDG_DATA_DIRS} output.
It does, so that's not the problem.
Try checking the contents of '~/.guix-profile/share/applications' Do you see
desktop files for the applications you expect to appear in the menu?
If no, try reinstalling one of
It looks like the community edition you link to is libre. It looks like the
products available for download from Jetbrains' site, including PyCharm
Profession, are not due to their EULA.
I use IDLE for simple Python programs and Eclipse for larger ones. Here's a
good resource for finding
youtube-dl is great. There's a GUI for it too,
https://mrs0m30n3.github.io/youtube-dl-gui/
though I haven't tried it.
You might also look into gtk-youtube-viewer,
https://github.com/trizen/youtube-viewer
which works well for searching, browsing, and streaming.
> there is clearly some effort being put into trying to be free as in freedom
I never said there wasn't. I've been pretty consistent in *not* criticizing
them for making freedom compromises for newer hardware. I've only criticized
them for intentionally hiding these compromises from
They could make a libre laptop, but the specs would have to be lower. I don't
mind that they compromise on freedom for more modern hardware. It's not
ideal, but there is a set of people who would be unwilling to use any of the
machines supported by libreboot, and I would much rather they use
Yes, I also think that's where the Mate stuff is from, but as long as
/home/davidpgil/.guix-profile/share
is in there I don't see why that would matter
What is the output of$ echo ${GUIX_PROFILE}?
Mine looks like this in Trisquel 8
/usr/share/mate:/usr/share/mate:/home/mason/.guix-profile/share:/usr/share/mate:/usr/share/mate:/usr/local/share:/usr/share:/var/lib/snapd/desktop
I think /home/mason/.guix-profile/share was added by ADFENO's steps.
ADFENO's solution worked fine back when I
I have no issues with Purism except for the way they promote their laptops,
so I don't know what prior experience could be biasing me against the way
they promote their laptops.
Have you read the page I linked to yet? It's not like I'm cherry picking a
few potentially misleading quotes
> The FSF article states that Purisms hardware is still not approved.
Yes, the FSF was very clear. I wish that Purism were equally transparent.
> its just the reality of tryign to run a business that costs millions of
dollars to keep afloat.
Minifree manages to survive selling only freedom
You're confusing PureOS, which is libre and warrants FSF endorsement, with
Librem laptops, which are not and do not. This is not your fault, but a
result of Purism being intentionally misleading at every opportunity.
> No, their laptops are not perfect now, but please show me a place where
they state/imply that they are.
I already have. The page I linked to
https://puri.sm/products/librem-15/
implies that the laptop has no freedom issues as strongly as possible without
making any explicitly false
> Its like they all got high and just watched old videos of Steve Jobs for
hours when they were coming up with how they would engage with the world.
Haha. That sums it up better.
It's a shame, because if they were upfront about the freedom issues with
their products the way Technoethical is
https://tehnoetic.com/mobile-devices/tet-n2
I might recommend them to people who want a mostly libre system but are
willing to make some compromises to have more modern hardware.
I was curious to see if Purism had started conflating this with their
non-free hardware yet. They don't yet mention the FSF endorsement, but I had
forgotten just how slimy they are.
https://puri.sm/products/librem-15/
No mention of the fact that only the OS is free. They don't even disclose
Trisquel/Guix (or as I've taken to calling it lately, Trisquel+Guix) is a
great solution. You get the stability of a LTS distro with the ability to
upgrade a package to the latest version of a package if necessary. That said,
since the packages in Trisquel 8 are more up-to-date, I've found
... Yeah, that's way easier. Thanks, Magic Banana.
GrevenGull, you can get the 'command' for the menu entry by right clicking
'Tor Browser' in tor-browser_en-US, selecting 'Properties', and copying
what's in the 'command' field. For me it looks like this.
sh -c
It's 'dpkg', not 'spkg'. Maybe quadruple check. :)
You can also use Gdebi Package Installer if you'd prefer a GUI.
It uses KDE Plasma as its default desktop environment instead of GNOME (the
default in Trisquel) or LXDE (the default in Trisquel Mini).
It's possible that Rekonq is a dependency of of the version of KDE Plasma in
Trisquel 7, similarly to how you recently discovered that Pidgin and Lifrea
Trisquel is FSF-endorsed because it is committed to including only free
software. Rekonq is free software. Although Facebook, Google, and Amazon are
terrible companies who among other things create some proprietary software,
their search engines do not require any proprietary software (just
Rekonq is developed by KDE, not Trisquel. Apparently KDE does not see a
problem with recommending Google or Amazon. That shouldn't be interpreted as
an endorsement of those companies by Trisquel.
Trisquel does remove from Firefox such recommendations as well as
recommendations for
Yes, you're right. I wasn't thinking.
Pidgin and Lifrea are part of GNOME, your desktop environment (assuming that
you are using Trisquel 7). If you remove them along with their dependencies
you might accidentally remove something important. If you don't plan to use
these applications (give Liferea a chance though, I like it a
IceCat doesn't show up under 'Add/Remove Applications' but is in the
repository. You can install it from Synaptic Package Manager, or in a
terminal$ sudo apt install icecat
If you are using Trisquel 7, Thunderbird is called Icedove. Again, it can be
installed from Synaptic Package Manager,
I don't know if it's the case with Trisquel Mini, but with some other live
CDs I've found that they'll make the ISO smaller by only containing what's
necessary to try out and install.
You really don't see $25 at the link I gave?
I was referring to whatever you see under "System Tools" in the menu. There
should be a tools for whatever you're trying to achieve. Hopefully someone
more familiar with LXDE than I will come by and be able to give you more
specific advice.
I
There's a $25 one,
https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-n-usb-adapter-gnu-linux-tpe-n150usb
but no, your WiFi card will not work without proprietary firmware.
I'm not too familiar with LXDE (the desktop environment for Trisquel Mini)
but you might be able to find what
Installing the addon automatically was indeed a mistake. I believe that it
was an honest mistake on Mozilla's part, as I'm sure they value their
privacy-respecting image over a game, but it certainly erodes trust.
The addon in and of itself doesn't seem malicious, and because it is libre
If your only problem with Firefox is its addon policies, Abrowser is the most
similar alternative that addresses that. The version of Abrowser in the
Trisquel 8 repository has already been updated to version 57.
Icecat would be a good option if you would like some additional privacy
I was also confused when I started using GUIX. ADEFNO provided a very helpful
answer: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/guix-usage#comment-119341
I've been using Trisquel 8 for weeks. It's basically ready with just a few
things to wrap up. However, if you are unwilling to use it until the official
release and want to use a similarly accessible distro in the meantime, Ubuntu
would be a better temporary compromise than Mint.
Ubuntu
https://xkcd.com/1508/
I'm sorry this happened again, Leah. Thanks so much for all of your hard
work. I'm glad that a variety of vendors can ethically distribute
freedom-respecting laptops that you made possible.
Forum posts do not seem to be the best medium for providing information about
products from any of
Tested in Pluma, but other text editors should work similarly:
Use "find and replace" (Ctrl+H in Pluma). Make sure "Parse escape sequences"
is checked.
- replace "AM" with "AM\n\n"
- replace "PM" with "MP\n\n"
- replace "Received from" with "\n\nReceived from"
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